Hull 1-2 Saints - Match Thread

[obelisk]

Ref is giving them everything. So one-sided it's crazy.

[lambtiss]

Hull have outplayed us in this half. Our supposed possession style has not worked at all. 

[Saint Matty 76]

Whilst Manning is really poor, the even worse reality is that it’ll probably be Holgate in for him with KWP switching to the left for Preston.

[Sunglasses Ron]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:47, Bad Wolf said:

Janny B being told off for having his short pulled.

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Janny V scores for Leicester

[Mr X]

Hull seem much quicker to the ball and more switched on than us in general 

[Saint NL]

Would be interested to see how many touches our front three have had, can't be many

[adrian lord]

Insipid.

[Miltonaggro]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:46, Saint NL said:

Two best dressed managers in the league today.

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Next! 

[stknowle]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:46, adrian lord said:

Tepid. 

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Flaccid.

[AlexLaw76]

Alcaraz has to come off at HT (for Adams)

Our patterns of play offer almost nothing up top

[Bad Wolf]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:47, obelisk said:

Ref is giving them everything. So one-sided it's crazy.

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Every fan thinks the referee is giving the other team everything in every game tbf.

Case in point: He's just given Hull a harsh booking.

Edited 21 October, 2023 by Bad Wolf

[Block41 Saint]

Sulemana finally does something, KWP unlucky. 

[lambtiss]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:49, stknowle said:

Flaccid.

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Impotent

[Saint NL]

Close, finally Sulemana gets involved and he creates something 

[adrian lord]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:49, stknowle said:

Flaccid.

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Turgid.

[Block41 Saint]

HT, Abysmal performance. 

[saintant]

Limpid.

[sydney_saint]

I get trying to get a style of football that would work in the prem. There's no point playing a hoofball and going up if we get demolished. I would happily give up a season to do that. But does anyone see this style working in the prem? It's just awful, it's not original, it's not challenging to play against. There is a reason it has never resulted in a team getting promoted.

[adrian lord]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:51, saintant said:

Limpid.

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Vapid.

[Saint Matty 76]

Another shit half where we look no better than midtable Championship opposition, in fact I’d say we looked worse.

KWP the only positive. Need to get Sulemana involved more and really disappointed with Alcaraz yet again. The experiment with him up top is not working for me. Che the obvious change.

[saintant]

Not rapid.

[West Stand]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:47, obelisk said:

Ref is giving them everything. So one-sided it's crazy.

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The linesmen are no better

[NewYorkSaint]

There have been enough flashes of brilliance, mostly involving Sulemana, to give me hope.  They're definitely being 'brave'!

[Saint NL]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:51, Saint Matty 76 said:

Che the obvious change.

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Yeah, this.

 

[die Mannyschaft]

It's boring. Passive, negative football.  I struggle to stay awake ar SMS so I can't see how the Saints players can pickup the pace or be more attacking and faster if they needed when 2 one 1 down or 1 down, 2 down. Its almost that we start the game with a draw or don't let 2 in mentality. The team is completely unbalanced some players 8/10 some 3/10. Its better to have players at allotment same level.

[Bad Wolf]

No longer above Swansea. We ARE however only one point off Leeds who's manager can do no wrong.

[sydney_saint]

Did our captain touch the ball that half?

[saintant]

More silky stuff from the RM playbook of total football. Imagine how good it will be if he ever actually succeeds in coaching them how he wants them to play - it'll never happen of course.

[LGTL]

Fucking abysmal. Manning is horrific, thank god he’s suspended next game. Shame it’s not for the remainder of the season. 

Makes our propaganda evening look even more pathetic. 

[stknowle]

Soporific.

[Bad Wolf]

It's not been anywhere near as bad as everyone's making it out to be. It's been...Alright.

[Harry_SFC]

This is our default performance these days. It's just so sloppy and lacklustre. 

Tactical masterclass my arse. 

[obelisk]

Sorry but this dreadful. Opponents just know how to counter this crab like stuff by now. Endlessly losing the ball in our own half won't help to win games. Even when Saints get upfield there doesn't seem to be much confidence or any plan.

[saintant]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:53, Bad Wolf said:

No longer above Swansea. We ARE however only one point off Leeds who's manager can do no wrong.

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Don't recall anyone claiming Leeds manager can do no wrong.

[Block41 Saint]

Stream appears to be crystal clear for the HT adverts. 🤣

[Bad Wolf]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:56, saintant said:

Don't recall anyone claiming Leeds manager can do no wrong.

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Their fans. They love him. But they're only one point above us. Yet our manager is the worst manager in the history of anything and makes Pellegrino look like Bobby Robson according to some.

[Saint NL]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:55, Bad Wolf said:

It's not been anywhere near as bad as everyone's making it out to be. It's been...Alright.

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Agreed.

We've been much worse in recent weeks. 

I can understand people aren't happy, we are playing possession football with 46.3% of the ball 😂

[Bewildered]

Highlight of the half was manning getting a 5th booking, ensuring he can't play the next game. 

Nothing going forward bar a couple of instances of individual skill, midfield pedestrian and sloppy in possession and defense playing themselves into trouble any chance they get, a typical saints performance.

[SambaMaverick]

Fucking boring

[Mr X]

We are there for the taking and hull know it, need to raise our game 

[Andy Hill]

If we go 2-1 down then it is game over with our mentality.

[Bad Wolf]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:57, Saint NL said:

Agreed.

We've been much worse in recent weeks. 

I can understand people aren't happy, we are playing possession football with 46.3% of the ball 😂

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I can understand why people aren't happy, sure. What I can't understand is why they're suicidal. It's been average IMO. Thing is, if we win, it'll have "papered over the cracks" or something.

[Harry_SFC]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:57, Bad Wolf said:

Their fans. They love him. But they're only one point above us. Yet our manager is the worst manager in the history of anything and makes Pellegrino look like Bobby Robson according to some.

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Genuinely don't think Pellegrino would be doing any worse than Martin if I'm honest.

[Miltonaggro]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:57, Bad Wolf said:

Their fans. They love him. But they're only one point above us. Yet our manager is the worst manager in the history of anything and makes Pellegrino look like Bobby Robson according to some.

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They don’t. I have family and friends who are Leeds season tickets holders and they are a tad more frustrated and angry with their Board and manager than our passive masses. 

[Saint_clark]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:57, Saint NL said:

Agreed.

We've been much worse in recent weeks. 

I can understand people aren't happy, we are playing possession football with 46.3% of the ball 😂

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I mean that makes it even more ridiculous. We're sacrificing attacking intent and defensive stability for a possession base philosophy and we aren't even having the majority of possession.

[Micky]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:58, Andy Hill said:

If we go 2-1 down then it is game over with our mentality.

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Agree, but I don't just think it's our mentality, but also largely our ability as well.  Other than KWP, we are not very good.

Edited 21 October, 2023 by Micky

[Bad Wolf]

  On 21/10/2023 at 15:00, Miltonaggro said:

They don’t. I have family and friends who are Leeds season tickets holders and they are a tad more frustrated and angry with their Board and manager than our passive masses. 

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My friend is a Leeds fan and thinks Farke is doing a cracking job. Also I look at their comments on Facebook and haven't seen a single "Farke out" comment.

[The Kraken]

Fair play to Bad Wolf, absolutely storming the straw man bingo this week.

[Sheaf Saint]

Seeing as the players are evidently being coached to just pass it around aimlessly in our own half, maybe need to bring on Archimedes to liven things up going forward...

 

 

[saintant]

  On 21/10/2023 at 14:58, Bewildered said:

Highlight of the half was manning getting a 5th booking, ensuring he can't play the next game. 

Nothing going forward bar a couple of instances of individual skill, midfield pedestrian and sloppy in possession and defense playing themselves into trouble any chance they get, a typical saints performance.

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RM is attempting to coach possession based football yet, rather than building play in a measured way we are reliant on a couple of instances of individual skill. Something not working unless I'm missing something. Still, we're promised that eventually it will suddenly just click into gear - not under RM and his coaches it won't.