Darren Mowbray

[saintant]

We were led to believe he'd be living out of a suitcase and clocking up air miles as he scoured the globe for the talented footballers who would enhance our squad.  Yet we signed not one player from abroad and most we did bring in were already known to either RM or JW. More money for old rope by the looks of things.

[Wade Garrett]

Hopefully he’ll recruit his brother.

[Dman]

In fairness, when was he appointed? Certainly wouldn't have had many games to watch to form a decent judgement on someone this window - proof will be in the pudding in the coming windows, I'd imagine. 

I'd rather we went for players we know, than throwing cash at someone we've watched in pre-season or 1 / 2 games. 

[saintant]

18 minutes ago, Dman said:

In fairness, when was he appointed? Certainly wouldn't have had many games to watch to form a decent judgement on someone this window - proof will be in the pudding in the coming windows, I'd imagine. 

I'd rather we went for players we know, than throwing cash at someone we've watched in pre-season or 1 / 2 games. 

Joined on 1st July.

[AlexLaw76]

2 hours ago, Dman said:

In fairness, when was he appointed? Certainly wouldn't have had many games to watch to form a decent judgement on someone this window - proof will be in the pudding in the coming windows, I'd imagine. 

I'd rather we went for players we know, than throwing cash at someone we've watched in pre-season or 1 / 2 games. 

You’d hope he started looking at players before we appointed him. 

it’s kind of his thing, yes?
 

[HarvSFC]

Also hoped he had a bank of names at the least that have caught his eye previously in his previous recruitment role that Aberdeen weren't able to finance a move for.

Instead, he didn't seem to contribute/have any influence or say on anything over the summer.

[Gloucester Saint]

Look out for their nephew Melton at Leicester 

[Harry_SFC]

3 hours ago, saintant said:

We were led to believe he'd be living out of a suitcase and clocking up air miles as he scoured the globe for the talented footballers who would enhance our squad.  Yet we signed not one player from abroad and most we did bring in were already known to either RM or JW. More money for old rope by the looks of things.

I certainly stopped believing Manji a long time ago

Edited 26 September, 2023 by Harry_SFC

[Dusic]

Scraping the barrel. Jeez.

[CSA96]

People really are desperate to whine about literally everything right now

[saintant]

28 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

People really are desperate to whine about literally everything right now

Maybe that's because literally everything at the club is being badly run- or perhaps you think we're being run like a well oiled machine.

[CSA96]

1 hour ago, saintant said:

Maybe that's because literally everything at the club is being badly run- or perhaps you think we're being run like a well oiled machine.

Yes that’s exactly it, I think literally everything at the club is being well-run 👍🏻

We’ve lost four games and after hysterically moaning on for days on end across various threads, you’re now turning your pitchfork on a recruitment guy who has been at the club for just under 12 weeks

Not entirely sure if you were expecting him to single-handedly turn us into a talent factory in such a short amount of time, but it’s been obvious since the beginning of forever that the person who leads the scouting network is not solely responsible for transfers at any club, let alone when they’re at a club they joined midway through a summer where plans were already in place and large-scale turnover was in the pipeline

And if you did believe that he was solely responsible for the recruitment, then I don’t understand why signing UK players would be an immediate negative, nor do I understand why we’d be casting final judgements on players who have not even been around long enough to make 10 appearances for the club. In fact, many of them are yet to play five games for Saints 

Recruitment personnel are and should be judged across windows and seasons, not days and weeks

But if it helps you feel better, you’re of course more than welcome to keep finding things to piss your pants about on a daily basis 

Edited 27 September, 2023 by CSA96

[CB Fry]

7 hours ago, saintant said:

Maybe that's because literally everything at the club is being badly run- or perhaps you think we're being run like a well oiled machine.

The point is, you don't know that at all.

If we'd won four in a row would you be starting threads about how shit Darren Mowbray is? I am guessing no, you wouldn't.

[Bad Wolf]

20 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

Hopefully he’ll recruit his brother.

Remember when we were linked with him as a manager in the summer? I don't remember that being particularly popular.

[Wade Garrett]

2 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

Remember when we were linked with him as a manager in the summer? I don't remember that being particularly popular.

Probably wasn’t at the time.  But to be fair, we didn’t know The Idiot was going to be appointed.

[S-Clarke]

Personally I'm still blaming Eric Black.

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, S-Clarke said:

Personally I'm still blaming Eric Black.

this. Cheers Les

[Turkish]

7 hours ago, CB Fry said:

The point is, you don't know that at all.

If we'd won four in a row would you be starting threads about how shit Darren Mowbray is? I am guessing no, you wouldn't.

"You're just a shit Terry Cooper" on saturday?

[Dman]

4 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

Remember when we were linked with him as a manager in the summer? I don't remember that being particularly popular.

expectations have somewhat changed. We weren't expecting to be in a fight to stay in the league in the summer.. 

[CSA96]

Congratulations to Darren Mowbray for his part in today’s win 

[Pamplemousse]

Darren Mowbray, as head of recruitment/scouting, should be held accountable for the mess he has created. Scouting and recruitment needs an overhaul, starting from the top.

[ErwinK1961]

Agreed, hopefully the new DoF (if he ever gets appointed) will start with the overhaul of the scouting department.

First stop, see what the Brightons scouts are up to after they got binned for AI.

[Pamplemousse]

Positive news IMO.

[Osvaldorama]

Great news. 
 

Now do literally everyone else involved in recruitment please 

[Suhari]

Was pretty pleased when he joined: he seemed to do a great job at Aberdeen.

For us though, he's been complete dogshit.

Good to see the clear out getting underway.

[CSA96]

Nice one Johannes 

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Suhari said:

Was pretty pleased when he joined: he seemed to do a great job at Aberdeen.

For us though, he's been complete dogshit.

Good to see the clear out getting underway.

Agree with the first bit, but don't know enough about what his input has been with us to condemn him, and him alone for our recruitment..

Some of our signings, Wood for example, had Lego's fingerprints all over them. Have often thought Mowbray might have been giving recommendations to be ignored by Lego, Mr Football and co. 

But someone should take credit for finding and signing Fernandes, who's to say that's not Mowbray's work. 

[Miltonaggro]

[Willo of Whiteley]

I’ve always loved the idea of being a scout. 
There’s a wealth of talent in the lower leagues. I probably watch more EFL and non-league nowadays than the Premier League.

It’s a lot more enjoyable, less predictable, not as dull, pure chaos at times and those talents absolutely shine through.

[Suhari]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

Agree with the first bit, but don't know enough about what his input has been with us to condemn him, and him alone for our recruitment..

Some of our signings, Wood for example, had Lego's fingerprints all over them. Have often thought Mowbray might have been giving recommendations to be ignored by Lego, Mr Football and co. 

But someone should take credit for finding and signing Fernandes, who's to say that's not Mowbray's work. 

Hmmm. fair points actually.

My 'he's dogshit' view would be more accurate as a general statement of the overall situation.

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said:

He definitely seems more of a Melt (on) than a Mowbray

[Turkish]

54 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I’ve always loved the idea of being a scout. 
There’s a wealth of talent in the lower leagues. I probably watch more EFL and non-league nowadays than the Premier League.

It’s a lot more enjoyable, less predictable, not as dull, pure chaos at times and those talents absolutely shine through.

I pretend to be a football scout when im away on business sometimes, when people ask me what i do i tell them im a self employed football scout and just come back from a job where i've been watching a top young player in whatever country i just happen to be coming back from. It's partly true as i am actually a qualified scout in kids football and also sometimes it might be CoT business, nonetheless it's highly amusing playing Walter Mitty sometimes in hotels and airports.

[BarberSaint]

27 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I pretend to be a football scout when im away on business sometimes, when people ask me what i do i tell them im a self employed football scout and just come back from a job where i've been watching a top young player in whatever country i just happen to be coming back from. It's partly true as i am actually a qualified scout in kids football and also sometimes it might be CoT business, nonetheless it's highly amusing playing Walter Mitty sometimes in hotels and airports.

 

I really don't believe anyone would talk to you (wife and son aside).  The way you shoot down poor Fabrice Sibley and Gio is brutal so I don't know what those people in foreign airports would think.

[Miltonaggro]

37 minutes ago, Turkish said:

He definitely seems more of a Melt (on) than a Mowbray

Fucking mirage mate!

[Miltonaggro]

7 minutes ago, BarberSaint said:

 

I really don't believe anyone would talk to you (wife and son aside).  The way you shoot down poor Fabrice Sibley and Gio is brutal so I don't know what those people in foreign airports would think.

To be fair, Turkish also divides opinion at Eastleigh and Hurn.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 minutes ago, BarberSaint said:

 

I really don't believe anyone would talk to you (wife and son aside).  The way you shoot down poor Fabrice Sibley and Gio is brutal so I don't know what those people in foreign airports would think.

Dear Airport security,

SaintsWeb would just like to point out that the phrase "shoot down" is being used in a completely different context.

34 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I pretend to be a football scout when im away on business sometimes, when people ask me what i do i tell them im a self employed football scout and just come back from a job where i've been watching a top young player in whatever country i just happen to be coming back from.

Please let Turks continue to travel the world looking for kids.

 

Edit: Dear Airport security,

SaintsWeb would just like to point out that the above post that was pointing out things being taken out of context, should also not be taken out of context.

Please let Turkish continue to continue his secret work for the global CoT organisation. A group so secret, it's too classified for your red flag list.

 

Edit to edit:

Dear Airport security,

It has come to our attention that Turkish is still in custody, following our earlier communications...

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, BarberSaint said:

 

I really don't believe anyone would talk to you (wife and son aside).  The way you shoot down poor Fabrice Sibley and Gio is brutal so I don't know what those people in foreign airports would think.

It is also very weird that a grown man pretends to be something he isn’t to complete strangers. Not much of a role model to kids, not least his own. Apart from spending his days on here trolling away, he lies to complete strangers about his job. I wonder what his boss would make of it all?

[Turkish]

13 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

It is also very weird that a grown man pretends to be something he isn’t to complete strangers. Not much of a role model to kids, not least his own. Apart from spending his days on here trolling away, he lies to complete strangers about his job. I wonder what his boss would make of it all?

And here it is exhibit A from Mr “I want to be left alone to post”, “i don’t pay any attention to his posts” 😂😂😂😂

why are you so obsessed about what my boss thinks of me? You mention it quite regularly.

sorry I’ve not given you much attention this week is public sector year end so been busy helping them spend their money. Public sector using their budgets up, spending money on stuff that made you and your team of typists “skills” no longer required. Every deal gives me even more satisfaction knowing it’s partly why you’re such a bitter man  👏👏👏👏👏

[saintant]

On 28/03/2025 at 12:48, Pamplemousse said:

Positive news IMO.

Thank fuck for that.

[woodsaint1]

Wouldnt pretend to know how much input Mowbry had or which players he was responsible for identifying/signing. We've had some good signings the past 18 months and some dogshit ones too. Plus RM and others had significant input.

Not a bad thing though allowing the new man a chance to build his own team. The next 3 windows are huge for us. Will be the difference between putting up a serious fight to stay in the PL or becoming a mediocre mid-table Championship team

[Saint Fan CaM]

Someone had to be the fall guy I suppose, plus there’s a need to cut cloth. I don’t have any faith that SR/Spors will make an improvement.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Someone had to be the fall guy I suppose, plus there’s a need to cut cloth. I don’t have any faith that SR/Spors will make an improvement.

Saints fans of the '80s often wondered why they'd be looking into the flames of the various explosions in the show, and see the club badge beside something called Sport Republic.

[Gloucester Saint]

5 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Someone had to be the fall guy I suppose, plus there’s a need to cut cloth. 

The standard of defending all season and suicidal Martinball ‘bravely’ passing around the back against PL forward lines has meant our supporters have been touching cloth every game too.

[Gloucester Saint]

On 28/03/2025 at 12:48, Pamplemousse said:

Positive news IMO.

Lingering question for me about his time at the club is what did he know about Ross Stewart and when did he know it, given his brother was the selling manager.

Not Sunderland’s fault, the buying club has the responsibility to run a full and robust medical, which clearly didn’t happen so that’s on SR and Saints, and we’ve all part-exed cars that we knew had issues.

The guy has started what one game in 2 years and I’m not sure he’s even played an aggregate of 90 minutes in the first team, or if even he has it is not much more than that. 

[Andrew Watson]

I wonder whether with all their other other cock ups the club thought they were getting Tony Mowbray. Only half joking.

[Saint Fan CaM]

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Lingering question for me about his time at the club is what did he know about Ross Stewart and when did he know it, given his brother was the selling manager.

Not Sunderland’s fault, the buying club has the responsibility to run a full and robust medical, which clearly didn’t happen so that’s on SR and Saints, and we’ve all part-exed cars that we knew had issues.

The guy has started what one game in 2 years and I’m not sure he’s even played an aggregate of 90 minutes in the first team, or if even he has it is not much more than that. 

It also raises the question about the nature of his parting of the ways with the club. Spors dug around and found a skeleton in the closet accompanied by a home shirt with the name Stewart on the back. 😉🤭

[Badger]

17 hours ago, woodsaint1 said:

Not a bad thing though allowing the new man a chance to build his own team. The next 3 windows are huge for us. Will be the difference between putting up a serious fight to stay in the PL or becoming a mediocre mid-table Championship team

Some inevitability to this, and Spors might put a good scouting network together. Bit of a concern though that if he does surround himself with his own people will they all piss off at the same time when Spors moves on. ( Which given his track record is highly likely). 
 

Have read that his former sidekick, Klos, has taken a job in Bundesliga 2. Hope Klos isn’t also on ‘Rohl watch’.