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Miltonaggro

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On 21/09/2023 at 16:03, Turkish said:

Emma Hayes is the obvious choice.

Or if we are going ginger Will Still. Loves a stat does Will.

Will be someone who can grow a beard as all the Ankersen appointments have been bearded, even Natty J made an effort. On that basis Hayes wins over Still. 

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On 22/09/2023 at 07:49, Saint Fan CaM said:

Something tells me they’ll give him more time…perhaps even until Christmas. He’s probably seen as one of the bright light Managers sub-Prem with a Pep style system in his kit bag and the dilemma will be whether to risk giving him time to get the system bedded in or hoping a new man can make something of the squad they’ve assembled. Not forgetting of course that RM has got two of ‘his men’ in Downes and Manning at his disposal. Personally I’d say that the evidence suggests keeping him is futile, but Wilcox will not want to admit he’s got his first major appointment very wrong.

Of course they will give him much more time he won't be going anywhere before Xmas l, there's no way they are going to accept they've got it wrong three times in a row! They would look beyond incapable (which they are) 

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16 hours ago, DT said:

Graham Potter is available

And now his old assistant has been let go by Chelsea as well (Bruno Salter). Who speaks Spanish (I presume as he is Spanish). Maybe the stars are aligning?

Or maybe we’ll just plough on down this fruitless furrow for another 4 months.

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46 minutes ago, Chewy said:

And now his old assistant has been let go by Chelsea as well (Bruno Salter). Who speaks Spanish (I presume as he is Spanish). Maybe the stars are aligning?

Or maybe we’ll just plough on down this fruitless furrow for another 4 months.

If we had a degree of sensibility about us (which we don't), we'd bring in a coach or free agent or anyone who can speak Spanish and help Alcaraz settle. 

He literally could be the difference between us going up or not, we need to do whatever we can to get the best out of him - and that includes giving him a free role to roam. 

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10 minutes ago, Dman said:

If we had a degree of sensibility about us (which we don't), we'd bring in a coach or free agent or anyone who can speak Spanish and help Alcaraz settle. 

He literally could be the difference between us going up or not, we need to do whatever we can to get the best out of him - and that includes giving him a free role to roam. 

Seems you have to be Scottish or Irish to become undroppable under Martin or at least of Celtic origin.

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2 hours ago, Chewy said:

And now his old assistant has been let go by Chelsea as well (Bruno Salter). Who speaks Spanish (I presume as he is Spanish). Maybe the stars are aligning?

Or maybe we’ll just plough on down this fruitless furrow for another 4 months.

Lads. He’s on a £10m a year pay off for the next four years and he’s already turned down two Champions League clubs - Lyon and Rangers. He is not coming to the Championship. I think the sooner everyone accepts this, the easier it will be to take when we appoint the Man City ladies youth coach to replace Rusty. 

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On 24/09/2023 at 11:04, Chewy said:

Marcelo Gallardo. Exciting coach; give Charlie someone to talk to. 2 birds, 1 massively unrealistic stone 😉

Should have been our balls-out Hassenhutl replacement. Doubt he would fancy it now despite the unique in world football opportunity to turn us into Salford-on-Sea. 

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2 hours ago, Dman said:

If we had a degree of sensibility about us (which we don't), we'd bring in a coach or free agent or anyone who can speak Spanish and help Alcaraz settle. 

He literally could be the difference between us going up or not, we need to do whatever we can to get the best out of him - and that includes giving him a free role to roam. 

Particularly when I have a tenner each way on him being top scorer in the championship at 100/1.

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16 hours ago, Saint Gifford said:

He’s the next England Manager after the euros.

He probably would have taken a few jobs by now.

I guess there is some financial benefit from Chelsea by not jumping into something else at the moment. 
 

Di Matteo got paid by Chelsea for two years after he was sacked and couldn't take another job as his £130k a week wage would end if he did. Not so sure Chelsea managers afterwards have been in the same position, with a pay off agreement probably inserted in the contract.  

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5 hours ago, Dman said:

If we had a degree of sensibility about us (which we don't), we'd bring in a coach or free agent or anyone who can speak Spanish and help Alcaraz settle. 

He literally could be the difference between us going up or not, we need to do whatever we can to get the best out of him - and that includes giving him a free role to roam. 

Mad Nate speaks fluent Spanish.  And he didn’t marry the ugly girl in his village.

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The problem we face with sacking Martin is attracting a new manager who wants to come to us. How are you going to convince a manager to join if you have just sacked/released 4 managers in 1 year? Any manager would think wtf is going on there? 

Other problem is keeping Martin who till now is struggling to get us firing and doesn’t look like he’s going to. Keep him and likely miss out on promotion or even worse, get relegated. 

And what does Dragan think of having to pay off 3 manager whilst also having to employ a new one? If I was him I would pretty pissed of any demanding answers. 

We have 3 games till the next international break, lose 2 of those and Martin has to leave. Replacement? Not a clue, but wait to long and other clubs who are underachieving will snap up any decent manager available now. 

Tough times ahead for those in charge of us.

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On 26/09/2023 at 12:11, Miltonaggro said:

Should have been our balls-out Hassenhutl replacement. Doubt he would fancy it now despite the unique in world football opportunity to turn us into Salford-on-Sea. 

FFS Salford is Man United territory - we're going to be Moss side on Sea

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15 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said:

The problem we face with sacking Martin is attracting a new manager who wants to come to us. How are you going to convince a manager to join if you have just sacked/released 4 managers in 1 year? Any manager would think wtf is going on there? 

Other problem is keeping Martin who till now is struggling to get us firing and doesn’t look like he’s going to. Keep him and likely miss out on promotion or even worse, get relegated. 

And what does Dragan think of having to pay off 3 manager whilst also having to employ a new one? If I was him I would pretty pissed of any demanding answers. 

We have 3 games till the next international break, lose 2 of those and Martin has to leave. Replacement? Not a clue, but wait to long and other clubs who are underachieving will snap up any decent manager available now. 

Tough times ahead for those in charge of us.

How much did we end up paying for Martins compensation? We paid about £3m for Jones IIRC then is cost another £5m to get rid of him. You'd have thought we'd have learnt.

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8 hours ago, Turkish said:

FFS Salford is Man United territory - we're going to be Moss side on Sea

At least shows how much of a fuck I give about the SR Man City lite fetish, I suppose. We will likely end up as Stockport South 😀

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32 minutes ago, Barsiem said:

Anyone know why Maresca turned us down?  It was reported he wanted to stay at City for another year, but then obviously signed for Leicester a couple of weeks later

Alternatively, anyone know - or hazard a guess- why Leicester didn’t pursue Martin as they were also linked with him at one point  ?

Or, perhaps that was his agent leaking their ‘interest’. 

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This the answer to this is clear as day and has been there all along.

Jose Fonte

Very smart guy, great character, leader, badges done, knows the club well.

Fonte wanted to come back this season in a senior player capacity - and to help the youngsters on the pitch....he made this clear. 

Wilcox said no.

Can you imagine how much better our back four would be (and team in general) with him leading?

No idea how Wilcox could have come to the conclusion it would have been anything but a massive positive for the team / club all round.

What has Russell Martin achieved in the game compared to Fonte?

We can all see that Martin and Wilcox are just trying to copy Pep (like many clubs these days).

Its embarrassing - how about have your own identity.

As for Ankersen - seems he doesn't know what his 'football philosophy' is. 

The football under Nathan Jones and Russell Martin couldn't be more different (apart from both being sh1te).

 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, Barsiem said:

Anyone know why Maresca turned us down?  It was reported he wanted to stay at City for another year, but then obviously signed for Leicester a couple of weeks later

There is no definitive proof that he turned us down.
Just like there is no evidence for us ever being interested in Piroe in the transfer window.

Equally, Leicester to Manchester is much, if any, of an upheaval for the family.

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12 minutes ago, Esher Saint said:

This the answer to this is clear as day and has been there all along.

Jose Fonte

Very smart guy, great character, leader, badges done, knows the club well.

Fonte wanted to come back this season in a senior player capacity - and to help the youngsters on the pitch....he made this clear. 

Wilcox said no.

Can you imagine how much better our back four would be (and team in general) with him leading?

No idea how Wilcox could have come to the conclusion it would have been anything but a massive positive for the team / club all round.

 

 

What a load of old shit.

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13 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

One Twitter “ITK”. 😂🤪

Don’t forget the bloke who kept pestering him with DMs on Instagram and got a couple of vague emojis in response. Fonte is the past, the best part of a decade since his prime, the only reason someone brought this up is desperation. The club are currently promoting an evening with Marian Pahars, we might as well get him back too, the way we’re playing.

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6 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Don’t forget the bloke who kept pestering him with DMs on Instagram and got a couple of vague emojis in response. Fonte is the past, the best part of a decade since his prime, the only reason someone brought this up is desperation. The club are currently promoting an evening with Marian Pahars, we might as well get him back too, the way we’re playing.

Alan Pardew got a four week ban on Instagram because of those DMs. Rightly so.

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12 hours ago, Esher Saint said:

This the answer to this is clear as day and has been there all along.

Jose Fonte

Very smart guy, great character, leader, badges done, knows the club well.

Fonte wanted to come back this season in a senior player capacity - and to help the youngsters on the pitch....he made this clear. 

Wilcox said no.

Can you imagine how much better our back four would be (and team in general) with him leading?

No idea how Wilcox could have come to the conclusion it would have been anything but a massive positive for the team / club all round.

What has Russell Martin achieved in the game compared to Fonte?

We can all see that Martin and Wilcox are just trying to copy Pep (like many clubs these days).

Its embarrassing - how about have your own identity.

As for Ankersen - seems he doesn't know what his 'football philosophy' is. 

The football under Nathan Jones and Russell Martin couldn't be more different (apart from both being sh1te).

I think we can already see potential warning signs around Wilcox.

Martin is his man - and i think everyone can see the stark limitations to his game having only watched 8 competitive matches. For us to have hired him, the people who made that decision (Wilcox primarily) should have been fully versed in his games for the past couple of seasons. Very worrying.

JWP sale for £27M was laughable.

ABK loan was beyond stupid - especially given he is exactly the kind of player we need and given we're playing specifically the type of football Wilcox wants - shows a real lack of tactical knowledge at recruitment level.

Holgate... just poor.

Bree and Manning as 2nd and 3rd best fullbacks for the season... this simply isn't good enough for a promotion team...

Only 1 CDM to speak off, and that is a 19year old who is talented but inconsistent - and who is also our only major addition to the playing squad despite raking in well over a hundred million.

We seem intent on managing academy players like Ballard out of the club.

We've got 3 loan players in and around the starting 11 that know they won't have to be here next year if it gets tough this season. This summer was our point of peak attractiveness in the 2nd tier to recruit long term. As it is we will have another 5 first team players out the door as soon as the season ends ~(TBH, KWP, Fraser, Che, Holgate), another grouping of other players (such as stu) will be entering their final year, and best not to even mention Alcaraz and Sulemana who will certainly not be sticking around for another year of this. So we will have to rebuild again next summer from a far weaker position re our reduced stature / attractiveness. I would imagine that by then, there will also be a good chance we'll be viewed as a basket case club - one that players should avoid for the good of their careers as well.
 

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13 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

 

JWP sale for £27M was laughable.

ABK loan was beyond stupid - especially given he is exactly the kind of player we need and given we're playing specifically the type of football Wilcox wants - shows a real lack of tactical knowledge at recruitment level.


 

There's a huge amount to criticise the club for at present but the sale of JWP and ABK is not part of it.

JWP is a high-level PL player, as soon as we got relegated it was 100% certain he would go.  He's pushing 30, there was no way in hell he would waste one of his last peak years playing in the 2nd tier.

Likewise, ABK had downed tools on us with about a quarter of last season left.  He had decided he wanted to leave and there was zero chance of him staying and being a member of this year's squad even if the club had really wanted this.

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2 minutes ago, once_bitterne said:

There's a huge amount to criticise the club for at present but the sale of JWP and ABK is not part of it.

JWP is a high-level PL player, as soon as we got relegated it was 100% certain he would go.  He's pushing 30, there was no way in hell he would waste one of his last peak years playing in the 2nd tier.

Likewise, ABK had downed tools on us with about a quarter of last season left.  He had decided he wanted to leave and there was zero chance of him staying and being a member of this year's squad even if the club had really wanted this.

The sale of the players was not the issue, not bringing in replacements earlier and as permanent signings is an issue (something that the club admits in the Athletic today they should have done.)

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26 minutes ago, once_bitterne said:

There's a huge amount to criticise the club for at present but the sale of JWP and ABK is not part of it.

JWP is a high-level PL player, as soon as we got relegated it was 100% certain he would go.  He's pushing 30, there was no way in hell he would waste one of his last peak years playing in the 2nd tier.

Likewise, ABK had downed tools on us with about a quarter of last season left.  He had decided he wanted to leave and there was zero chance of him staying and being a member of this year's squad even if the club had really wanted this.

2 opposite ends of the spectrum.  One a model pro, another a complete cunt (same as Salisu).

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13 hours ago, saintant said:

The sort of book that once you put it down you can't bring yourself to pick it up again.

A book that is left to browse in what used to be called ‘the smallest room in the house’.

Also pages are handy if you run out of bog roll. 

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36 minutes ago, benali-shorts said:

Rasmus bound to be tempted by Dean Smith - Brentford link; championship experience; available and free; multiple experience of failure. Shudder......

No beard though (as far as I remember).

If they do go for Smith at least they can’t go into the always our number one choice routine having overlooked him for RM this summer. 

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