6ft8saint Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 On the manager front I thought we were still paying Ralph and that's why he hasn't taken another job. Perhaps we can use it like a retainer Surely that's better than whatever this is 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 20 minutes ago, St Louis said: You do know AArmstrong scored today, and as the only player who even looked like scoring for us? 🤔 you've got me there. I missed the goal, because I only started watching from about 20 minutes in. Did he take it well? He certainly didn't look like scoring in the remaining 75 minutes. I just saw a guy looking to pass (the buck) rather than create a yard and shoot. No one looked like scoring. We created fuck all. Again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_man Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 Awwww, not scar tissue again. It's the new 'well, they had an advantage when they went down to 10 men ....' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 5 minutes ago, JRM said: I heard the away end were not too pleased at end, much abuse towards Martin or players in general? Yeah - he came over to the fans before the match and got some polite but mixed applause, but when he came over afterwards a number of fans gave him the middle finger and shouted abuse. As soon as he realised the fans were not going to applaud him, he turned around and headed back towards the tunnel. The only players who really received any applause were Stu and Edozie. I pointed at them to applaud to try to make it clear that I was not aplauding the useless Aribo and Arma who happened to come over at the same time. Even against Sunderland there was some appluase for the players but today there was a real sense of 'enough is enough' and there were very few fans applauding any of the players. I hasten to add that the performance today was actually miles better than against Sunderland. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dragon_man said: Awwww, not scar tissue again. It's the new 'well, they had an advantage when they went down to 10 men ....' That was peak Nathan Jones. Classic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 Anyone still thinking Martin should stay need their head seeing too. No better than Jones or selles and they were ##cking terrible 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 38 minutes ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said: Got back from the match a while ago (I live in Darlington)... Russell Martin is clueless. Ryan Fraser was hopeless and rightfully subbed off but he shouldn't have started. Adam Armstrong was hopeless apart from his goal and should not started or stayed on - why does Martin hate Alcaraz? If goal hanging were allowed he would offer more. When it comes to kicking/passing a ball his only quality is in the 6 yard area. AA works hard but he is NOT a winger. Holgate was much better than against Sunderland (better as full back than centre back) but was partly responsible for their first goal. Taking him off at half time will have further destroyed his confidence. Manning was worse than Holgate defensively but offered more in an attacking sense. Adams is not a centre forward, he is a support striker. Since we don't play that system, we don't benefit from that. Shea Charles should not have been subbed off. One of Smallbone or Flynn Downes were superfluous in midfield until Smallbone went off - both could have been replaced rather than Charles. Aribo was absolutely dreadful. he fluffed almsot every single kick that he had - only two headers were any good. In terms of positives: KWP was by far the best player on the pitch. Alcaraz would have easily been one of the best players on the pitch if we had brought him on!!! (MARTIN OUT!) Taylor Harwood-Bellis did some brilliant defending and has clearly got Premier League class. Edozie did well when he came on. Stu Armstrong was brilliant when he came on - but not sure why he replaced Charles instead of Flynn Downes. SUMMARY: Russell Martin is clueless. Until he gives starts to Alcaraz and our higher quality quality wingers like Edozie, Sulemana and Amo-Ameyaw instead of crap like Fraser and Arma we are just going to fail, fail and fail again. Shea Charles needs to play as CDM eevry game and should not be subbed off unless we bring in someone else who can play in that position. MARTIN OUT!! Now imagine we don't go up and we lose all the players that made your positive list. It doesn't bear thinking about. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 At what point does someone with the authority to do something call an end to this farce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisonlyonemickychannon Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 2 hours ago, Colinjb said: Dreadful comparison. Puel could coach a defence. And he would have won us the League Cup if VAR had been existence 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, saint michael said: He blames the performance again on circumstances that are under the team to control. If they are not then he needs to understand why in order to change it. His answer is only that they have scars and are lacking confidence, and are young. That being the case I think he is only living in hope they can get lucky to change this. As we all can see he is doing little or nothing to drive a change. He still seems reasonably happy he is on course and very calm with losing game after game in the same fashion….very weird Spot on. like a bloke who keeps tossing a coin and telling you it’ll be heads in a minute. When he finally gets it right it’ll be a “see, I told you!” Edited 23 September, 2023 by Crab Lungs 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 When I saw the line up (smallbone aside) I really wanted to be positive about today, but I'm really struggling to find any. At least we've seemingly fucked off that inverted full back bollox and KWP looked a better player as a result. The goal we scored was nice, that's what Adams is great at - that's litterally about it. I've absolutely no idea what game Martin was watching if he thinks we were the better team. Asides maybe 10 mins in each half, they were all over us and it could have easily been 4/5 again if they were more clinical. Same old shit, way too slow in possession, passes with no purpose, limited movement from the midfield. We're getting worse game by game - I could trust the process if I could see what the process is. Leeds will give us an absolute spanking and St Marys will turn really really toxic. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 7 minutes ago, Challenger said: At what point does someone with the authority to do something call an end to this farce? Probably if and when we spend a period of time in the relegation positions. Until then nothing changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 There are so many posts on here tonight I am not sure if someone else has made the same point but for me one of the most worrying things today was the players' reactions after the match. Sullemana couldn't get off the pitch quick enough. Bednarek started to come over to us but decided that he couldn't be bothered and scuttled off. Most of the others just slunk off without bothering to come over. It looked as if the players don't give a toss about the fans who spent a mini fortune to travel and watch them. Is there any decent team spirit? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 All in all it’s not been a great week for people called Russell 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, Midfield_General said: All in all it’s not been a great week for people called Russell You don’t really have much hope in life if you were given that name at birth anyway 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 September, 2023 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2023 24 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said: Spot on. like a bloke who keeps tossing a coin and telling you it’ll be heads in a minute. When he finally gets it right it’ll be a “see, I told you!” Sounds like 75% of this forum over the years to be fair... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: You don’t really have much hope in life if you were given that name at birth anyway What were those crappy T-shirts Lovren kept going on about, with a cartoon owl? I'm sure they were called Russell something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: What were those crappy T-shirts Lovren kept going on about, with a cartoon owl? I'm sure they were called Russell something. I don’t remember but Russell Athletic were a crap brand Russell Grant Russell Howard Russ Brand all twats the only decent on I can think of is Russell Crowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 Missed the game. Saw the score and never expected anything else to be honest. This is relegation form. Again. How long has he got? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 There is always one of the 3 relegated teams who become a bit of a car crash, sadly that is us - it shouldn't be in any way, but it is. To be 11 points behind the top 2 at this early stage is nothing short of horrendous. We had a decent start, but it's moved quite quickly into a catastrophic first 7 games. 15th in the Championship with a -7 goal difference is the thing of nightmares. I have no idea what is wrong with this club. The team put out today looked better, but we just don't know how to play football. Take any of those players out of our team and put them in another side and they'll be able to play football again - guaranteed. There is something toxic at this club and it's been the case for many years. I'm losing the will to live with it all now. Not sure where it stops, but we're on a pretty nasty slope right now and I'm sure Leeds are going to have good fun next weekend. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 8 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I have no idea what is wrong with this club. I do. https://trainingground.guru/articles/rasmus-ankersen-why-football-clubs-should-embrace-failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 Just now, Dark Munster said: I do. https://trainingground.guru/articles/rasmus-ankersen-why-football-clubs-should-embrace-failure None of what they have done has helped a single jot, but it was all pretty toxic even before they came in - let's not forget that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 33 minutes ago, Turkish said: I don’t remember but Russell Athletic were a crap brand Russell Grant Russell Howard Russ Brand all twats the only decent on I can think of is Russell Crowe Even the Russell's I knew at school were bellends. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: None of what they have done has helped a single jot, but it was all pretty toxic even before they came in - let's not forget that. said last season, Sports Republic are a contemporary Venkeys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 2 hours ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said: Got back from the match a while ago (I live in Darlington)... Russell Martin is clueless. Ryan Fraser was hopeless and rightfully subbed off but he shouldn't have started. Adam Armstrong was hopeless apart from his goal and should not started or stayed on - why does Martin hate Alcaraz? If goal hanging were allowed he would offer more. When it comes to kicking/passing a ball his only quality is in the 6 yard area. AA works hard but he is NOT a winger. Holgate was much better than against Sunderland (better as full back than centre back) but was partly responsible for their first goal. Taking him off at half time will have further destroyed his confidence. Manning was worse than Holgate defensively but offered more in an attacking sense. Adams is not a centre forward, he is a support striker. Since we don't play that system, we don't benefit from that. Shea Charles should not have been subbed off. One of Smallbone or Flynn Downes were superfluous in midfield until Smallbone went off - both could have been replaced rather than Charles. Aribo was absolutely dreadful. he fluffed almsot every single kick that he had - only two headers were any good. In terms of positives: KWP was by far the best player on the pitch. Alcaraz would have easily been one of the best players on the pitch if we had brought him on!!! (MARTIN OUT!) Taylor Harwood-Bellis did some brilliant defending and has clearly got Premier League class. Edozie did well when he came on. Stu Armstrong was brilliant when he came on - but not sure why he replaced Charles instead of Flynn Downes. SUMMARY: Russell Martin is clueless. Until he gives starts to Alcaraz and our higher quality quality wingers like Edozie, Sulemana and Amo-Ameyaw instead of crap like Fraser and Arma we are just going to fail, fail and fail again. Shea Charles needs to play as CDM eevry game and should not be subbed off unless we bring in someone else who can play in that position. MARTIN OUT!! I am just back too (staying in Manchester overnight) and while basically agreeing with you, I disagree re Walker Peters who tried hard but was full of errors. Similarly Charles and Harwood Bellis mistakes gifted Boro the winner. There was utter dross all over the pitch today. Not one player other than the gk could be exonerated from contributing to one of the worst away matches I have witnessed. Boro were awful, their fans started moaning after 15 minutes and yet somehow we contrived to hand them the initiative with sloppy clueless football that was embarrassing to witness. Right now I would take Jones back. He was many things but he wasn’t an imposter. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Even the Russell's I knew at school were bellends. Same, see also Darren, Warren and Toby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 1 hour ago, Tamesaint said: There are so many posts on here tonight I am not sure if someone else has made the same point but for me one of the most worrying things today was the players' reactions after the match. Sullemana couldn't get off the pitch quick enough. Bednarek started to come over to us but decided that he couldn't be bothered and scuttled off. Most of the others just slunk off without bothering to come over. It looked as if the players don't give a toss about the fans who spent a mini fortune to travel and watch them. Is there any decent team spirit? To be fair the fans gave the players the fuck off coming over signals at the end. I was sitting in the opposite stand and it was obvious very few of the away support wanted to applaud the players at the end. it’s my last post and I would just like to say to St Louis that yes Arma scored today but that was his only meaningful contribution the whole afternoon. He really is a poor player. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 4 minutes ago, Long Shot said: I am just back too (staying in Manchester overnight) and while basically agreeing with you, I disagree re Walker Peters who tried hard but was full of errors. Similarly Charles and Harwood Bellis mistakes gifted Boro the winner. There was utter dross all over the pitch today. Not one player other than the gk could be exonerated from contributing to one of the worst away matches I have witnessed. Boro were awful, their fans started moaning after 15 minutes and yet somehow we contrived to hand them the initiative with sloppy clueless football that was embarrassing to witness. Right now I would take Jones back. He was many things but he wasn’t an imposter. https://www.skysports.com/football/swansea-city-vs-luton-town/467882 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallaghert366@yahoo.com Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 1 hour ago, saintant said: Probably if and when we spend a period of time in the relegation positions. Until then nothing changes. Coming soon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosk Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 51 minutes ago, Turkish said: You don’t really have much hope in life if you were given that name at birth anyway Hey Turkey, not all of us Russell’s are perverted or shit at management. I can hold a conversation and make a cup of tea… 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 Guys just went for a curry, had a vindaloo chicken, cheese naan and 4 large beers, have lots of wind. Are we still fucked ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekelund Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 4 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Guys just went for a curry, had a vindaloo chicken, cheese naan and 4 large beers, have lots of wind. Are we still fucked ? Yes mate although some more than others!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 52 minutes ago, Turkish said: I don’t remember but Russell Athletic were a crap brand Russell Grant Russell Howard Russ Brand all twats the only decent on I can think of is Russell Crowe Russ Abbott? Willy Russell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 7 minutes ago, Daft Kerplunk said: Russ Abbott? Willy Russell? Keri Russell 😍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 September, 2023 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2023 1 hour ago, Turkish said: I don’t remember but Russell Athletic were a crap brand Russell Grant Russell Howard Russ Brand all twats the only decent on I can think of is Russell Crowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallaghert366@yahoo.com Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 Both Martin and, interestingly, Selles are currently in their comfort zones in terms of league positions. Those at the helm of SFC are seriously flawed in their decisions about football. Transfer decisions have been appalling. Manager / Coach decisions have been equally appalling. From top of the Premier League, albeit fleetingly in late 2020 , to staring at League One is reprehensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 10 minutes ago, trousers said: Good call, this is the greatest thing a Russell as been involved in 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miltonroad Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 47 minutes ago, Roosk said: Hey Turkey, not all of us Russell’s are perverted or shit at management. I can hold a conversation and make a cup of tea… Seconded. Thought the day couldn’t get any worse but now it’s open season on the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 Don't know why it doesn't seem to have been remarked that any keeper should have saved the equaliser?. I am now in the terrible position of hoping for a heavy defeat by Leeds to get this over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 7 minutes ago, gallaghert366@yahoo.com said: Both Martin and, interestingly, Selles are currently in their comfort zones in terms of league positions. Those at the helm of SFC are seriously flawed in their decisions about football. Transfer decisions have been appalling. Manager / Coach decisions have been equally appalling. From top of the Premier League, albeit fleetingly in late 2020 , to staring at League One is reprehensible. Ralph knew cowboys had taken over when he diplomatically said he would be at the club at most two years. That was less than 20 months ago. All this 'trust the process' crap. We've a manager seriously out of his depth who doesn't seem to recognise the talent in the team. I was annoyed when Edozie was subbed in the last couple of games - today he didn't even make the starting line up. When he and Stu Armstrong came on we were better, but we were playing the bottom team in the league and they outclassed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kenilworthy said: Don't know why it doesn't seem to have been remarked that any keeper should have saved the equaliser?. I am now in the terrible position of hoping for a heavy defeat by Leeds to get this over with. It was at the time. Yet again Bazunu gets a hand to a shot and doesn’t keep it out, it happens regularly. it’s another one that whilst not a glaring error is one he should be saving I don’t think I’ve met many decent lads called Gavin either come to thing of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich102 Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 We're stuffed. The people at the top have no idea how to run a football club, so it's not even like replacing Martin would do anything. Every active decision they've taken has made us weaker. Charlatans. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 1 hour ago, Turkish said: I don’t remember but Russell Athletic were a crap brand Russell Grant Russell Howard Russ Brand all twats the only decent on I can think of is Russell Crowe Quite like Russell Harty back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miltonroad Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said: Quite like Russell Harty back in the day. Osman did a job back in the day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 September, 2023 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2023 16 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said: Quite like Russell Harty back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 I'm going to be a little controversial here. I thought first half we were largely OK. It looked like RM had set us up defensively and not to concede which given the last 4 games was sensible, we ditched the inverted fullbacks, cut out needless passing around the back, and it looked like working until Holgate fucked up. I don't know what it is but at times some of our players seem to think they've a god given right to stroll around without being challenged. Charles did it against Ipswich and was guilty again at least a couple of times today. Second half that shape completely vanished when we brought on Manning who's like James Bond; he's a left back with license to roam. Any kind of discipline vanished. We still didn't create much of note, and looked much more likely to concede. Really not looking forward to Leeds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 22 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said: Quite like Russell Harty back in the day. was a big fan of Jack Russell behind the stumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 Russ Meyer had the right idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 September, 2023 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2023 This is fast turning into my favourite post-match thread ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 23 September, 2023 Share Posted 23 September, 2023 Bit of a side-note, Adam Armstrong as captain. He doesn’t seem the most vocal to me. Even Che Adams was a better fit and the only reason he is no longer vice-captain is because a supposed move for him to leave didn’t go through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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