trousers Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Away to the bottom side who are looking for their first win of the season.... What could possibly go wrong...? #saintsy 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 I think if we lose this - quite possible - it wont be far off the season being over. No one loses four in a row and goes up which makes it rathe unlikely in my view that we will be doing anything this year. What you want is some sign that we are starting to understand this system if we are refusing to deviate from it. We need a win first and foremost but more than that we need some confidence for other games that we are on kind of the right path and not going wildly off course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Watson Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Will be the first league win for Boro,at least it will please my cousin a life long fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 (edited) I think we'll have more chance here as we wont have the negativity of the Fans in the stands making the players more fractious. Start almost the team that finished the Ipswich match. Start with the flair players like Sulemana and Alcaraz to give them the chance to fight for a lead, rather than to attempt to claw the ball back. Bazunu KWP Bednarek THB Manning Charles Alcaraz S Armstrong Edozie Sulemana A Armstrong Edited 20 September, 2023 by Nolan 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauro Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 13 minutes ago, Nolan said: I think we'll have more chance here as we wont have the negativity of the Fans in the stands making the players more fractious. Start almost the team that finished the Ipswich match. Start with the flair players like Sulemana and Alcaraz to give them the chance to fight for a lead, rather than to attempt to claw the ball back. Bazunu KWP Bednarek THB Manning Charles Alcaraz S Armstrong Edozie Sulemana A Armstrong Far too sensible a line up. Mad Russ won't play anything of the sort. Quite clearly that team should beat 95% of teams at this level and the fact Martin won't pick our strongest 11 is quite frankly baffling. Maybe it's the fluoride in the water sending him doolally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 (edited) I don’t care what happens at Middlesbrough. A win will only prolong “the project” and reinforce the three amigos belief they are on the right track. A loss and we’ll hear more desperate ranting from Russell, ( he is clearly massively out of his depth and suffering, which isn’t nice to witness). I deeply regret spending money I probably shouldn’t have on a season ticket. ps Rambo W.Ankersons grubby little “let’s break it” paws are all over this demise and he seems to be getting off very lightly. Edited 20 September, 2023 by Toussaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 No confidence from me. Right now rather toothless going forward combined with gift wrapping opposition goals. If i had to guess a 2-1 loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 Last chance saloon for me. Bazunu KWP Bednerak THB Manning Charles Downes* Alacaraz Fraser Edozie Adams *if fit. S Armstrong if not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 Would like a win, be happy with a draw but expecting a loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 Most of you have picked the team that I would of selected to start the game vs Boro. I want them from the keeper to pass it to KWP who passes to Bednarek and him to Charles, THB, Manning and repeat it 20 times before Charles gives it to the Boro striker who hits it through Bazunu. Then Russell steps up and claps to give Charles some encourage and then does a downward motion to say stay calm. This is great football and I’m super jealous of all those lovely fans travelling up to watch it. Boro 2 Saints 1 (OG) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 If it was me I’d go 4-2-3-1 Baz Bree… Janny B…THB….KWP Charles. Manning Edozie. Alcaraz. Frazier Che 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 1 hour ago, Nolan said: I think we'll have more chance here as we wont have the negativity of the Fans in the stands making the players more fractious. Start almost the team that finished the Ipswich match. Start with the flair players like Sulemana and Alcaraz to give them the chance to fight for a lead, rather than to attempt to claw the ball back. Bazunu KWP Bednarek THB Manning Charles Alcaraz S Armstrong Edozie Sulemana A Armstrong Yeah must be the Saints fans who made the players nervous at Sunderland, get a grip 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 We'll scrape a win but we won't make it easy for ourselves, 95th minute dodgy penalty. Luckily for us Middlesbrough are shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttdcs Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 7 hours ago, Andrew Watson said: Will be the first league win for Boro,at least it will please my cousin a life long fan. Ha ha likewise I am visiting Boro supporting relatives too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 I’m not being reactionary to last nights result but it’s 100% a Middlesbrough win. A team with little points, little goals - this could be 2-0 or 3-0 to start their season. 👍🏻 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 6 minutes ago, JRM said: Yeah must be the Saints fans who made the players nervous at Sunderland, get a grip Fractious meaning for you: difficult to control; unruly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 Cryptic message in Spanish from Carlos Alcaraz after the game last night on Instagram. My Google translate skills tell me it said "The last battle that is lost is the one that is abandoned". Is this a well know phrase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 1 hour ago, Nolan said: I think we'll have more chance here as we wont have the negativity of the Fans in the stands making the players more fractious. Start almost the team that finished the Ipswich match. Start with the flair players like Sulemana and Alcaraz to give them the chance to fight for a lead, rather than to attempt to claw the ball back. Bazunu KWP Bednarek THB Manning Charles Alcaraz S Armstrong Edozie Sulemana A Armstrong You say we are more likely to win here as we won't have the negativity of the fans. Whay happened at Sunderland then????????????? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, whiteleySaint30 said: You say we are more likely to win here as we won't have the negativity of the fans. Whay happened at Sunderland then????????????? Mason Holgate had a shocker, which from what I hear came about due to limited or no training time with the team. Edited 20 September, 2023 by Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die Mannyschaft Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 A draw at best. We can only compete against Bitton 8 teams witch have -4 to -9 goal diff. So that's 16 draws plus our 10 points gives 26 points. Max if we win 5 games all season maybe 42 to 49. I just can't see any improvement due to possession football which is essentially a tactic to waste 80% of tge game in hope of a break or counter attack. Different formations and players swapped in different positions won't help either as the basic starting point of DONT ATTACK and wait until one of 3 shots on target go in. I would rather see long ball boot it in the box Borough 0-0 Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 14 minutes ago, Nolan said: Mason Holgate had a shocker, which from what I hear came about due to limited or no training time with the team. I’m sorry but that is such a piss poor decision to play him if that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 1 hour ago, Nolan said: Fractious meaning for you: difficult to control; unruly. Stop trying to make excuses for the useless performances, blaming the fans ffs you muppet 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 3 hours ago, Nolan said: I think we'll have more chance here as we wont have the negativity of the Fans in the stands making the players more fractious. Start almost the team that finished the Ipswich match. Start with the flair players like Sulemana and Alcaraz to give them the chance to fight for a lead, rather than to attempt to claw the ball back. Bazunu KWP Bednarek THB Manning Charles Alcaraz S Armstrong Edozie Sulemana A Armstrong That's the exact same team I posted except I wouldn't have Adam Armstrong anywhere near the team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 I feel somewhat relieved that I'll be unable to watch or follow this one on Saturday. Can't think of one game where Saints have looked comfortable since the opening day of the season and after 3 poor defeats the Middlesbrough game now is pretty much a "must win". After the Reading friendly I was quite optimistic. Almost funny how things have changed so quickly for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 Hopefully the knock to Adam Armstrong will help RM clear up the mess of one his mistakes in this game at least. Making him captain and shoehorning him into one of 3 central midfielders doesn't work. He doesn't make the first 11 in my book. He's better off the bench for high pressing, high energy impact. Martin has made it difficult to restrict him to that role. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 1 hour ago, JRM said: Stop trying to make excuses for the useless performances, blaming the fans ffs you muppet Given the lukewarm turgid dogshit served up last night I actually thought the fans were very good, particularly second half. If the Board expect more than that in the current predicament they may need to attend some ‘neutral’ football matches and seek psychiatric help. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 We’ll probably win, but they are fecking awful at the moment, but won’t change the fact that Martin is clueless. a win will be by fact of having better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 Baz, KWP, THB, Bed, Manning, Downes, Charles, Alcaraz, Edozie, Adams, A N Other (take your pick, they’re all crap). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 5 hours ago, Nolan said: I think we'll have more chance here as we wont have the negativity of the Fans in the stands making the players more fractious. Start almost the team that finished the Ipswich match. Start with the flair players like Sulemana and Alcaraz to give them the chance to fight for a lead, rather than to attempt to claw the ball back. Bazunu KWP Bednarek THB Manning Charles Alcaraz S Armstrong Edozie Sulemana A Armstrong Adam Armstrong as the lone striker 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 54 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: We’ll probably win, but they are fecking awful at the moment, but won’t change the fact that Martin is clueless. a win will be by fact of having better players. I'll be amazed if we win. A draw at best judging by our current form and the manager's ineptitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, JRM said: Stop trying to make excuses for the useless performances, blaming the fans ffs you muppet I remember when Cortese brought in the thinking of "small margins" where little adjustments on many things could make the world of difference. Those who choose to boo are certainly not helping the situation. Edited 20 September, 2023 by Nolan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 We won't win. Winning involves scoring goals. Winning involves not passing the ball around our area until one of our players just gives it away. Winning involves picking best player for each position. Winning involves picking a player capable of captaining the team, not a misfit. Winning involves playing above walking pace, making decisive passes. RM doesn't know anything apart from his stupid "system" in which the only way to win is to get a bit lucky. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 11 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said: We won't win. Winning involves scoring goals. Winning involves not passing the ball around our area until one of our players just gives it away. Winning involves picking best player for each position. Winning involves picking a player capable of captaining the team, not a misfit. Winning involves playing above walking pace, making decisive passes. RM doesn't know anything apart from his stupid "system" in which the only way to win is to get a bit lucky. Pretty much hit all the points! Get a proper captain. Pick the best players and put them in their proper positions. Stop messing around with it trying hundreds of really risky passes until something goes wrong. How many times does this need to happen and we lose before this is taken on board? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Oggmonster Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 Bazunu THB Charles KWP Manning Aribo Smallbone Fraser A. Armstrong Edozie Adams 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 14 minutes ago, The Oggmonster said: Bazunu THB Charles KWP Manning Aribo Smallbone Fraser A. Armstrong Edozie Adams What the fuck was he thinking. I think he should have been sacked at half-time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 I think we may win but won’t avoid Leeds thrashing us the following week and crowd will be toxic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 Flying up to Newcastle Friday night for this. Can’t wait… 1-0 Boro. Their first win of the season, we’re exactly who you want to be playing in that position. Martin out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 1 hour ago, Nolan said: I remember when Cortese brought in the thinking of "small margins" where little adjustments on many things could make the world of difference. Those who choose to boo are certainly not helping the situation. To be fair to Cortese his first actions following the Liebherr takeover were to appoint an ex-premier league manager and recruit a number of the best experienced players from the league we were in and that above. Immediately the fans could see improvement, ambition and positive momentum. How were our fans at the JPT final - the miserable indulged arseholes? In his entire time at the club, despite his human shortcomings (sic) as a Chairman, he didn’t have to worry about grumbling fans, and his ‘small margins’ focused on pillows, mattresses and ice sculptures. Maybe Rasmus and Kraft should have a chat with him on teams, bit of life/business-coaching and a discussion on closing the big margins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 28 minutes ago, The Oggmonster said: Bazunu THB Charles KWP Manning Aribo Smallbone Fraser A. Armstrong Edozie Adams Fuck off Russell! 😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 The inevitable win for the opposition when they are struggling for form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 14 minutes ago, Turkish said: The inevitable win for the opposition when they are struggling for form. 4 defeats on the bounce would be the death knell of any promotion push, by October - I was looking forward to this season, but it could be all over before Firework night at this rate. I think we'll win, the players know they have to or the gap just becomes too big (let's not ignore our minus goal difference on top of it all - everything is so miserable right now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 Baz KWP BELLIS BEDNERAK MANNING DOWNES CHARLES ALCARAZ SULEMANA ADAMS FRAZER 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 10 minutes ago, gammon cheeks said: Baz KWP BELLIS BEDNERAK MANNING DOWNES CHARLES ALCARAZ SULEMANA ADAMS FRAZER This team picks itself, surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 39 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: This team picks itself, surely You’d think so but I’m half expecting Armstrong to end up as wing back, Aribo as a holding midfielder etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chuckle Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 1 hour ago, Turkish said: The inevitable win for the opposition when they are struggling for form. We'll gift them a goal after 5 minutes to get their crowd on side and it'll probably end up 3-0. Seen this so many times over the years as a Southampton fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 Smallbone Aribo and Arma should be nowhere near the team after last night’s debacle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 Oh good. I have tickets for this one and Preston away. I might put a hold on any future ordering of tickets me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 7 hours ago, whiteleySaint30 said: You say we are more likely to win here as we won't have the negativity of the fans. Whay happened at Sunderland then????????????? We had pretty much close to 2k fans at Sunderland and I can tell you before kick off in this game it was very positive and upbeat. Russell Martin came over and clapped us before the teams came out, and pretty much from the 6th minute of that game at 0-2 down the great start to the season flipped on its head. They will get good support again, but it will turn, if things start to go wrong again on the pitch. We need to take the lead for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 1 hour ago, gammon cheeks said: Baz KWP BELLIS BEDNERAK MANNING DOWNES CHARLES ALCARAZ SULEMANA ADAMS FRAZER I agree but Edozie in for Fraser, who I think has looked exceptionally average and not at all built for this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 20 September, 2023 Share Posted 20 September, 2023 2 hours ago, SambaMaverick said: This team picks itself, surely I don't think it does. I'm not convinced yet by Kamaldeen or even Alcaraz, they have flattered to deceive. Also don't see Downes as a shoe-in from his performances so far (and will he be fit anyway). Armstrong (S) to me should be a starter. Don't think this will happen but it may be that Manning could play MF (he has done a lot in the past, it wouldn't be playing him out of position) and getting Larios in at LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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