Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Make no mistake, tonight was entirely down to the manager. His insistence we pass out from the back, and his ridiculous midfield set up cost us tonight. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Nice try lads Try not to punch your screens… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: We'll have too much of an upheaval in January to maintain any momentum for that. KWP, Alcaraz, Sulemana, Adams and co will all be offski and we'll be looking for the 2024 versions of Wright, Makin and Powell. Lots to look forward to. I think we're here to stay for a very, very long time. there's only one Powell...say it's true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chez said: what is AA's best role? an unused substitute, or squad filler to help put the cones away in the warm-down. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 The only tactical switch RM made was to cut out most of the inverted full backs nonsense. Sadly it didn't help him send out a side with any real shape, cohesion or sign that they knew and believed in what they were doing. I'm afraid as others have said RM is out of his depth and we've yet again made a complete mess of selecting an intelligent manager. Those expecting things to improve under his leadership are in for a disappointment from everything that I'm seeing and hearing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 7 minutes ago, Chez said: what is AA's best role? Somewhere a long long way from Hampshire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: We'll have too much of an upheaval in January to maintain any momentum for that. KWP, Alcaraz, Sulemana, Adams and co will all be offski and we'll be looking for the 2024 versions of Wright, Makin and Powell. Lots to look forward to. I think we're here to stay for a very, very long time. Tbf KWP, Alcaraz, Sulemana and Adams are the 2024 versions of Makin, Pulis, Wright and Pekhart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Not a single positive outside of Bednarek Embarrassing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Make no mistake, tonight was entirely down to the manager. His insistence we pass out from the back, and his ridiculous midfield set up cost us tonight. putting to one side the old passing it out from the back thing costing us goals for a second, another problem we have is that there just isn't much attacking threat either. We don't seem to have much clue what to do in the final third. Did we create ay clear cut chances tonight? My stream cut out a lot, so not sure what I missed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 On way back from that. Ipswich were a hardworking organised championship side, just what I thought we’d be facing when we got relegated. Regardless of where they are in the table currently we should win this at home all day long. Saints however, were utterly toothless, out muscled, out fought and no answer to a layered, marshalled defence. Management apparently no idea how to retrieve the game after a goal down. Fuck all to do with the crowd, who were stoic in the face of mediocrity yet again. Think we might be in a bit of trouble already. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: an unused substitute, or squad filler to help put the cones away in the warm-down. he works really hard. But we desperately need a striker. Not a player that used to be a striker three years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Just now, Chez said: he works really hard. But we desperately need a striker. Not a player that used to be a striker three years ago. He may well work hard, but he's useless on the ball as his touch is crap, and let's not even start on his inability to strike a ball. He is of no use to a team who want to win games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Second half shows we have to play Charles in midfield and Bednarek at the back. As soon as Charles went in there he won tackles, made interceptions and gave us better shape. Harwood-Bellis immediately looked happier having a proper experienced CB next to him and some cover from midfield. Surely now the manager will realise we have to play with that solid midfield base. If we do we'll be fine. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 5 minutes ago, saintant said: The only tactical switch RM made was to cut out most of the inverted full backs nonsense. Sadly it didn't help him send out a side with any real shape, cohesion or sign that they knew and believed in what they were doing. I'm afraid as others have said RM is out of his depth and we've yet again made a complete mess of selecting an intelligent manager. Those expecting things to improve under his leadership are in for a disappointment from everything that I'm seeing and hearing. is RM cancelling the inverted fullbacks the same as when Ralph tossed the five man defence in the bin? All that time spent learning it (I am guessing they did actually spend time, but who knows) completely wasted when the players could have been learning something useful? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Any sniff of some quotes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Thought we looked much better with Bednarek and Stu on the pitch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Russell's half time team talk. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmore Saint Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 He sounds totally done in AB's interview... Usual trite bollocks - "one crap mistake", Che was unlucky..., Were getting better..... Point was a fair result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Just now, Harry_SFC said: Thought we looked much better with Bednarek and Stu on the pitch. Oh yeah without doubt, more balance and more solid in the middle with Charles. But why did we have to wait an hour for that. The game was a slog fest by that point as we'd allowed Ipswich to fall right into their gameplan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Very hard to look forward after those three matches. However tonight was at least better. Desperately relative comment but that is at least something. The defence sharpened up when Bendarek came on. Hopefully he'll develop a partnership with THB. They need a few goals to get some confidence back in the side. Absolutely zero self belief at the moment. Hopefully the away games will have less pressure. Try for a win and build on that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 2 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Thought we looked much better with Bednarek and Stu on the pitch. Stuart Armstrong and KWP were the only two who looked like half decent footballers. I blame that largely on the set up and coaching because players are being made to look bad because of the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 1 minute ago, macca155 said: Very hard to look forward after those three matches. However tonight was at least better. Desperately relative comment but that is at least something. The defence sharpened up when Bendarek came on. Hopefully he'll develop a partnership with THB. They need a few goals to get some confidence back in the side. Absolutely zero self belief at the moment. Hopefully the away games will have less pressure. Try for a win and build on that. I have no faith that we’ll stop handing opposition cheap goals. Loss to winless Middlesbrough very much my expectation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 2 minutes ago, macca155 said: Very hard to look forward after those three matches. However tonight was at least better. Desperately relative comment but that is at least something. The defence sharpened up when Bendarek came on. Hopefully he'll develop a partnership with THB. They need a few goals to get some confidence back in the side. Absolutely zero self belief at the moment. Hopefully the away games will have less pressure. Try for a win and build on that. It was marginally better but let's be honest Ipswich should have been 3-0 up at half-time. They let us off the hook. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, macca155 said: Very hard to look forward after those three matches. However tonight was at least better. Desperately relative comment but that is at least something. The defence sharpened up when Bendarek came on. Hopefully he'll develop a partnership with THB. They need a few goals to get some confidence back in the side. Absolutely zero self belief at the moment. Hopefully the away games will have less pressure. Try for a win and build on that. I think a more clinical side with better quality up front would have finished us off. They had way better chances than we did. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Cat said: Second half shows we have to play Charles in midfield and Bednarek at the back. As soon as Charles went in there he won tackles, made interceptions and gave us better shape. Harwood-Bellis immediately looked happier having a proper experienced CB next to him and some cover from midfield. Surely now the manager will realise we have to play with that solid midfield base. If we do we'll be fine. Couldn’t agree more. Smallbone just doesn’t offer anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Luckilywe have 3 winnable games coming up in our next 4 to paper over the cracks. If we don't beat at least two of Middlesbrough, Stoke and Rotherham we are in major trouble 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Fraser absolutely useless again, never shows for the ball other than one over the top which has never worked out Maybe Bednarek and THB could make a good partnership? Can’t think of anything else positive to say Ipswich just had to wait for a mistake and do absolutely nothing outside of it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Watson Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Turgid football,woeful forwards,shambolic midfield [ Why did we not take the money for Smallbone,we could not give him away now ] and a dithering defence with no confidence at all. Finally a manager who is stubborn and out of his depth, if that is not a recipe for lower mid table mediocrity or even bottom 6, I do not know what is. Just glad I am far enough away,to not contemplate going to a game any time soon. What an utter shambles of a club and to top it off we will almost certainly hand Boro their first league win of the season on saturday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Studio Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 I hope he doesn't come out again and say he is proud of the players. First half - wrong team and wrong tactics. Got the right team on eventually but too late. A well drilled Ipswich side deserved to win. They chased down opposition, always found a teammate to pass and looked dangerous on the break. We were totally opposite - Che Adams and Bednarek when he came on are the only positives. To think 1 year ago they were league 1 and we were premier league - you would have thought it was the other way round. I shall be up again at Xmas - I hope to God someone has told him how to play this team by then! We won't get relegated as we are but lucky to be top 10! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Studio Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 (edited) Smallbone is the new Redmond - always with his back to goal! Edited 19 September, 2023 by Paul.Studio Duplicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 23 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Make no mistake, tonight was entirely down to the manager. His insistence we pass out from the back, and his ridiculous midfield set up cost us tonight. Rinse and repeat ..................no lessons to be learnt here ..................next. Saw most of the "important people" looking fa lawn and gloomy,no change there either,but no smugness,so a slight improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Back from the game smallbone shit, manning shit, Charles shit, atmosphere shit, setup shit, tempo shit, tactics shit Russell Martin, your football is shit 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 4 minutes ago, Paul.Studio said: Smallbone is the new Redmond - always with his back to goal! Should've been dropped after that performance on Friday. Lazy shit, strolling around, ball watching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Back from the game smallbone shit, manning shit, Charles shit, atmosphere shit, setup shit, tempo shit, tactics shit Russell Martin, your football is shit I thought Manning would be decent for us, but he is as bad a player as I've seen play for us for many, many years - and we've had a few. I find it hard to believe he had PL suitors. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: I thought Manning would be decent for us, but he is as bad a player as I've seen play for us for many, many years - and we've had a few. I find it hard to believe he had PL suitors. He's not fit to lace Perraud's boots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Adams missed another sitter. What's his score/miss ratio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Back from the game smallbone shit, manning shit, Charles shit, atmosphere shit, setup shit, tempo shit, tactics shit Russell Martin, your football is shit I'm sensing you might not be too happy with the way things are going at the moment... Am I warm...? 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I thought Manning would be decent for us, but he is as bad a player as I've seen play for us for many, many years - and we've had a few. I find it hard to believe he had PL suitors. 2023 version of Jermaine Wright I just hope Ross Stewart is more Rasiak than Fuller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 6 minutes ago, Paul.Studio said: Smallbone is the new Redmond - always with his back to goal! Redmond was at least capable of producing something good every so often. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Just now, obelisk said: Adams missed another sitter. What's his score/miss ratio? To be fair I thought it was a top save from their keeper. Adams hit it pretty hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Back from the game smallbone shit, manning shit, Charles shit, atmosphere shit, setup shit, tempo shit, tactics shit Russell Martin, your football is shit Not happy then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Well there’s usually one team of the relegated three that is a car crash, think we can safely confirm who that is this year. Hello Watford, Stoke, Huddersfield, Swansea, Cardiff - you’ve got a new friend here to stay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 We looked far better when Bednarek came on to partner THB and Charles moved up into DM. The issue was we had no cutting edge and we made yet another mistake which proved costly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 1 minute ago, trousers said: I'm sensing you might not be too happy with the way things are going at the moment... Am I warm...? 😂 I mean, he set up with Will Smallbone and Joe Aribo in the middle of the park Russell Martin can get in the bin, his football is terrible 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I thought Manning would be decent for us, but he is as bad a player as I've seen play for us for many, many years - and we've had a few. I find it hard to believe he had PL suitors. The thing is, we have a track record of turning half decent players into poor players... Manning may well have turned out as a decent player for a bottom half team in the PL, regardless of how he performs for us... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 We need to cut our losses and get rid of that fucking useless, clueless idiot now. Horrendous team selection, and a team who had no fucking clue how to break the opposition down. It’s just pedestrian RalphSellesBall all over again. Fucking dogshit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Well the early season optimism has been quickly swept away. Ipswich really were nothing special yet we looked utterly clueless going forward again. Combined with more kamikaze defending the result is no surprise. Sorry to say Smallbone is a complete waste of a shirt, offers absolutely nothing. A Armstrong works hard but is a horrific footballer. Only real positive was KWP who was excellent, and we did look better once Charles moved into midfield. Aribo did ok. But something needs to change or we'll be nowhere near promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 Since August 2021 we’ve won 9 out of 43 home league matches. 3 wins out of 23 this season and last. How miserable. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 19 September, 2023 Share Posted 19 September, 2023 1 minute ago, Pamplemousse said: To be fair I thought it was a top save from their keeper. Adams hit it pretty hard. The issue is that’s all he ever does. Doesn’t have the ability to place a ball and it costs him time and time again. Good save/absolute sitter… can call it both ways, he had to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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