Saints 0-1 Ipswich - Match Thread

[Saint Garrett]

Will be interesting to see what happens after last nights shambles. IMO, we need to stop trying to be so clever, we are shit at it. Play a right back at right back, centre backs at CB, and centre midfielders in CM. Charles has to play DM, as he seems to be the only one that can do the job. Downes needs to step up, he was appalling last night.

“It won’t happen again” well it just did, in the next game. 3 in a row and the fans are going to lose their shit, but this will be a very tough game against a very good side. 

We need to go into this game to keep it solid, we have shown we can score goals. 
 

Bazunu; KWP Bednarek THB Manning; Charles Smallbone Downes; Arma Adams Edozie/Fraser

I’m taking my niece for her 14th birthday,  who has really got the bug, despite only getting to see a few shit games over the last few years. Hopefully we can stick a result and performance together for her! I’m not holding my breath though…

[Appy]

Downes won’t be playing, sounds like he’s out for a while. 

[LGTL]

1-3.

[austsaint]

Agree about reverting to an orthodox RB and LB set up - we are sacrificing the skills of KWP’s game at present.   Charles has to slot in at CM; will Downes be fit?   Don’t want to see Smallbone again anytime soon - I’d play Alcaraz as the AM.

Lets hope your niece brings a change of fortune.    RM is on the cusp of being on notice.

[AlexLaw76]

Bazunu, KwP, Bed, ThB, Manning, Charles, Smallbone, Alcaraz, A.Armstrong, Adams, Edozie

 

Stop playing Adam Armstrong as a central attacking midfielder, stop playing Charles CB, stop leaving massive wide open spaces when we attack, stop playing the fullbacks as CMers. 

If Martin insists another defeat is part of the 'pain' we must endure, he can piss off too.

One thing though, Ipswich fans will love it if they beat us, don't think they like old Rusty too much.

 

Edited 16 September, 2023 by AlexLaw76

[The Cat]

We're favourites for the win with the bookies, so considering the overwhelming reaction from yesterday's game is that we're the worst team to ever play football or something I presume all our fans will be lumping on an Ipswich win.

Our city will be as collectively rich as one of those little Spanish villages in the hills who always seem to win £8 trillion in the lottery.

[Saint Garrett]

28 minutes ago, Appy said:

Downes won’t be playing, sounds like he’s out for a while. 

Probably a good thing. 

[teamsaint]

After that shambles last night , we could go very simple 4-4-2

Whoever fits the  MF and defensive slots best, Adams and Armstrong up front, get something useful out of KWP as an orthodox RB, and at least we would look like a proper team.

 

obviously we won’t, and with the we have injuries, I’m very pessimistic.

Oh, and it is time for Aribo to step up and earn his wages. Thought he at least looked interested when he came on last night.

Edited 16 September, 2023 by teamsaint

[JRM]

23 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

Probably a good thing. 

We're don't have options though? Centre back and centre midfield look so weak, need another fans forum to ask Martin about the spine of the team. 

[JRM]

42 minutes ago, The Cat said:

We're favourites for the win with the bookies, so considering the overwhelming reaction from yesterday's game is that we're the worst team to ever play football or something I presume all our fans will be lumping on an Ipswich win.

Our city will be as collectively rich as one of those little Spanish villages in the hills who always seem to win £8 trillion in the lottery.

After seeing the line ups last night I backed Leicester to win and both teams to score at 7/2 , only had a fiver on it and was mainly based on lack of belief in us to improve after Sunderland.  

Not watched Ipswich closely but from what I've seen they will 100% score against us.

[JRM]

Ipswich have sold out the full 2,825 away allocation, very impressive for a midweek trip 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

19 minutes ago, JRM said:

Not watched Ipswich closely but from what I've seen they will 100% score against us.

My lad's under 12's team could score against us.

[Micky]

5 minutes ago, JRM said:

After seeing the line ups last night I backed Leicester to win and both teams to score at 7/2 , only had a fiver on it and was mainly based on lack of belief in us to improve after Sunderland.  

Not watched Ipswich closely but from what I've seen they will 100% score against us.

Given the way we 'defend', every team in the league will 100% score against us, we are literally giving away goals for fun, teams don't have to work at all hard to score against us, we leak goals.   RM said we played better than last week and that he was proud of the players...!  I'd hate to see the score in a game where he thought we played badly, we were lucky to get out at 4 last night, very lucky. 

[sfc4prem]

10 minutes ago, Micky said:

Given the way we 'defend', every team in the league will 100% score against us, we are literally giving away goals for fun, teams don't have to work at all hard to score against us, we leak goals.   RM said we played better than last week and that he was proud of the players...!  I'd hate to see the score in a game where he thought we played badly, we were lucky to get out at 4 last night, very lucky. 

This is the issue. We have to work very hard to get three points because we are very unlikely to earn clean sheets. Russell's tactics leave a frail spine of the team exposed consistently, and the end result is fucking obvious to everyone but him.

[LuckyNumber7]

Hard to have any confidence in getting a result whilst we're leaking goals at such an alarming rate. Oh what I'd give for a clean sheet.

[S-Clarke]

Anyone can score against us, so I expect the same here. I find it hard to predict the score as our games are just too open.

[Pamplemousse]

If we can go more than 60 seconds without conceding it will be a considerable improvement.

Despite all the talk of learning lessons, nothing will change and our best hope is our attacking players dig us out of a hole.

 

3-3 draw.

[Saint Matty 76]

3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Bazunu, KwP, Bed, ThB, Manning, Charles, Smallbone, Alcaraz, A.Armstrong, Adams, Edozie

 

Stop playing Adam Armstrong as a central attacking midfielder, stop playing Charles CB, stop leaving massive wide open spaces when we attack, stop playing the fullbacks as CMers. 

If Martin insists another defeat is part of the 'pain' we must endure, he can piss off too.

One thing though, Ipswich fans will love it if they beat us, don't think they like old Rusty too much.

 

Yep.

Completely agree with this team. Smallbone extremely lucky to keep his place but no real alternative if Downes is out.

[Baird of the land]

We can't carry on with the same set up as we're embarrassingly easy to score against. Curious if we'll go 3 at the back.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Ipswich are a very good side and on the showing so far, they will beat us with ease. 0-3.

[CB Fry]

As long as the Ipswich team have watched videos of our last two outings, should be a routine win for them.

Ipswich's biggest enemy will be their own complacency. Be clinical and they'll be fine.

Edited 16 September, 2023 by CB Fry

[Master Bates]

Minutes applause for Ben Cull, decent player.

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/23793925.southampton-hold-minutes-applause-passing-ben-cull/

[Fan The Flames]

There's zero chance we will keep a clean sheet.

[OttawaSaint]

What's the point?

Will be the same shitty shambles with stubborn hipster Russ at the helm...

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, OttawaSaint said:

What's the point?

Will be the same shitty shambles with stubborn hipster Russ at the helm...

Is ‘hipster’ the new buzzword for any manager who doesn’t stand on the sidelines with an egg stained tank top stretched over his massive beer belly, shouting, "oi! Get it in the f**kin’ mixer you useless c**ts!"?

Ralph’s pressing tactics were ‘hipster’, as was Selles’ turtleneck sweater. Is Nathan Jones the only manager we’ve had recently who isn’t?

[OttawaSaint]

24 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Is ‘hipster’ the new buzzword for any manager who doesn’t stand on the sidelines with an egg stained tank top stretched over his massive beer belly, shouting, "oi! Get it in the f**kin’ mixer you useless c**ts!"?

Ralph’s pressing tactics were ‘hipster’, as was Selles’ turtleneck sweater. Is Nathan Jones the only manager we’ve had recently who isn’t?

No, hope that helps. 

[East Kent Saint]

Ipswich on a run of form while Saints are still out of form , another home loss . Postponing a return to StMarys again for mental health reasons .

[saintant]

6 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

My lad's under 12's team could score against us.

It's nothing to boast about.

[Monk]

Chaplin will give us plenty and I mean plenty of shit if he scores. 
 

Even more of a skate than Mason Mount. 

[LGTL]

Ipswich won again today, 5 out of 6 wins so far. They’ve a lot of momentum from last season too, basically the complete opposite of us. We’re fragile as fuck, can’t defend and gift opportunities regularly to the opposition. Not being embarrassed is probably the best we can hope for here.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

If we wanted a young up and coming manager, maybe we should have approached Ipswich during the summer. Not suggesting he would have been interested, but at least it seems he knows how to get a team to play.

[The Oggmonster]

Saints 2 Ipswich 5

[Smirking_Saint]

10 hours ago, Saint Garrett said:

Probably a good thing. 

We’ll have to stick Smallbone at 6… or Holgate at CB… so not sure it is really

[Smirking_Saint]

4 hours ago, CB Fry said:

As long as the Ipswich team have watched videos of our last two outings, should be a routine win for them.

Ipswich's biggest enemy will be their own complacency. Be clinical and they'll be fine.

If they have any sense they’ll sit high on us, and if we manage to progress they’ll just leave a couple high and wide… we’ll overplay in the wrong position and be 2 goals down by halftime

[Saint Garrett]

15 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

We’ll have to stick Smallbone at 6… or Holgate at CB… so not sure it is really

Smallbone seems to offer more than Downes IMO, hopefully Bednarek fit at CB. 

Holgate or Downes…what a painful choice…! 

[Cabrone]

Ipswich should beat us, they are on a run and looking good, we are a confused ruderless mess.

3-1 or 4-1 to them. 

[bangkoksaint]

We’ve not won by more than one goal or kept a clean sheet for more than 18 months - is that really true? If it is then we’re not breaking that habit tomorrow.

[Toussaint]

I don’t want to go. 

[Gloucester Saint]

1-3 Ipswich. Their counter-attacking style will be perfect for picking off Martin’s suicide tactics. Lose this one and Martin’s job is in real jeopardy. It isn’t must win but certainly mustn’t lose and a 0-0, 1-0, or 1-1 would help reassure people that he has some sort of clue on how to coach and buy him a few more games to show he can adapt. I just think Saints are an experiment for him though and he won’t change. Hence I give him a month absolute tops. Personally, I’d part company now. It’s as obvious as it was with Nathan Jones that it isn’t going to work and the level of disorganisation since the Sheffield Wednesday game is as bad as the Forest/Wolves games. 

Edited 16 September, 2023 by Gloucester Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

2 hours ago, Monk said:

Chaplin will give us plenty and I mean plenty of shit if he scores. 
 

Even more of a skate than Mason Mount. 

Something else to look forward to then. Given Martin’s Norwich connections, their fans will dish it out at him if Ipswich are 3/4/5 goals ahead. Could be worse than the flak Jones took from Forest fans given his prior run-ins when you factor in the East Anglian factor. 

Coulc be a painful last game for Russell if he hasn’t achieved a massive improvement in midfield and scrapped the inverted fullback nonsense. 

[Lighthouse]

I can't go. What a pity. I may spend the money on a moderately priced item of clothing, I haven't decided yet.

[the colonel]

3-1 Saints

[woodsaint1]

                      Bazunu

KWP      Bednarek   THB    Manning

                      Charles

Fraser       Alcaraz    AA      Edozie

                      Adams

We need a proper DM in midfield. Downes (injured) and Smallbone were so far off it last night. If Bednarek isnt ready, then Holgate needs to play beside THB. Also never mind poor defensive shape, some of our attempts at tackling last night was embarassing - Edozie, Alcaraz, KWP to name a few. It needs to be better all over.

We'll score, we'll concede and I'm going for a frustrating 2-2 draw

[VectisSaint]

Saints 2 Ipswich 3 ,at least that would be the next score in the sequence. 

[Toussaint]

40 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

Saints 2 Ipswich 3 ,at least that would be the next score in the sequence. 

If that sequence continues we have nothing to fear and we are going to end up with a four figure positive goal difference 

[tdmickey3]

If our deluded managers comments are anything to go by he will keep adopting this tactical shambles hoping it will work so we all know it’s going to turn to shit again and we are stuck with it

Saints 2 Ipswich 4

Martin’s mess

[Whitey Grandad]

I shan’t be going. My beautiful wife and constant companion of over 57 years is gravely ill and I shall not be leaving her side. Our grandson has my ticket and he will give me a full and honest report.

[Harry_SFC]

Ipswich are on a bit of a roll and McKenna really has instilled a winning mentality up there.

I'd take a draw (says it all) but expect them to beat us 2-1. 

[fanimal]

This is incredible after two shaftings the realism and pessimism on here is on a different planet than compared to the era of Jones and belatedly of Selles can’t believe it has already come to this after 6 games 

[Colinjb]

Ipswich will win. We will try to be too clever in picking the team, square pegs in round holes. They will pick us apart.

Score: 2-5. 

A reverse of our trip to Portman Road in 2011.