James Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Didn't think I would be saying this but I don't think Martin will be here at the end of the season. 5 1
adrian lord Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 This is more than just a bad day at the office. Worrying lack of passion. 7
LGTL Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Topped it off by allowing a year 11 to score against us. Fantastic.
Zorba Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 With the exception of Aribo, who is shit anyway, all those substitutes that came on should have started the game. Do we have another manager who doesn’t know his best team? 3-0 at half time, it was all over. We Move On!
stknowle Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Well that was a complete and utter embarrassment. Has a team ever thrown in a performance that bad and been promoted in the same season? Kinda doubt it. 1
BotleySaint Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 If Bazunu starts after conceding this many goals so far in the season then you've got to wonder if he'll ever be dropped. 7
James Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Just now, sandwichsaint said: RM won't sleep well tonight. He looks out of his depth. 5
OttawaSaint Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 He couldn't save a word document. But again, totally unmarked and untracked. Awful. 1 2
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Baz gets a hand to it...so of course it goes in. Tops off an all round horror performance right across the team. 5
Turkish Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Just now, LGTL said: Topped it off by allowing a year 11 to score against us. Fantastic. Unmarked at the back post, basic defending we seem incapable of 2
SNSUN Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Well done Sunderland but DAMN, we need to sort this out.
Saint NL Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Absolute shit from start to finish. Sloppy, slow and very naïve. Big improvement needed, time to get working on the training ground. I don't want to see Holgate start any time soon.
Yorkshire Saint Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 1 minute ago, bpsaint said: Baz again, paper hands Agreed
obelisk Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 That losing mentality still not gone then. 4
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Just now, BotleySaint said: If Bazunu starts after conceding this many goals so far in the season then you've got to wonder if he'll ever be dropped. He won't be dropped. According to Martin he is the best keeper in the league. 3
Chez Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 (edited) fucking shit pass Alcaraz...who perhaps had no one to pass to...and then non existent marking. Sums up the performance. We don't seem to know what we are doing and our shape makes defending more difficult than it should be. Edited 2 September, 2023 by Chez 1
The Curse of St Mary's Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 RM got selection badly wrong. No way Shea Charles deserved to be dropped. Glaring lack of creativity in that starting 11. Holgate just shocking. RM must be regretting his foolish comments about Bazuna. 8
James Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 2 minutes ago, adrian lord said: This is more than just a bad day at the office. Worrying lack of passion. It's the tactical set up. We've been spoiling for a hiding all season and we've just had it. Question is whether RM can change it. On current evidence, he won't. 7
AlexLaw76 Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Keep conceding like we do, Martin won’t last. No excuses after the international break 6
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 (edited) Downes just stands watching and Baz does a bad impression of a pro keeper. 5-0 to a team that were in L1 season before last. An extremely poor performance from Manager and his team. Sunderland wanted it more. Embarrassing doesn’t really cover it. 8/10 window…mmm? Edited 2 September, 2023 by Saint Fan CaM 1
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Don't understand that starting lineup? Why start Mara when we have Fraser, who given his time at Newcastle would probably have thrived against their biggest rivals. Why no Charles when he could have offered some protection to the two centre backs, who've never played together before? Still not sure about Edozie. I'd have put A. Armstrong out there and let Che play the central role. So many bizarre decisions. 8
Ralph Fastenbüttl Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Still, at least we all here on these boards can show the boys how it's done by maintaining a calm composure in the face of adversity. Right? 1
RedWillie Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Totally outplayed. Completely clueless performance 3
OttawaSaint Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 I've never seen a goalie where the ball is so close to him yet he either gets nothing at all on it or a hand but so weakly that it goes in. Like many others, I've said time and time again that was utter folly to not get a decent keeper. 3
hypochondriac Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Just now, Saint Fan CaM said: Downes just stands watching and Baz does a bad impression of a pro keeper. 5-0 to a team that were in L1 last season. An extremely poor performance from Manager and his team. Sunderland wanted it more. Embarrassing doesn’t really cover it. 8/10 window…mmm? They weren't in league one last season. 1
Sheaf Saint Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 1 minute ago, Saint Scott said: Good goalkeeping again there from Baz Honestly baffles me how there are still people defending him. Got his hand to that but couldn't keep it out cos he has paper wrists. He is utter fucking shite. I'm trying to think of a worse keeper we've had in all my years watching Saints, and I honestly can't. He needs dropping now. 8
Tamesaint Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 I was going to this match but went down with COVID on Thursday. Thank god for COVID. 😁😁
stknowle Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 1 minute ago, James said: Didn't think I would be saying this but I don't think Martin will be here at the end of the season. Mate, any more 'efforts' like that and I'll be actively hoping he isn't. I had serious misgivings about his appointment. We were all warned about the number of goals his teams throw in. Nothing I have seen today dispels those misgivings, everything I have seen confirms the warnings. 3
Jimmy_D Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Well that was a bit grim. Might have been a very different day had the stonewall penalty not been missed by the ref, but definitely a day to dig Adkins’ pen out and draw a line under. 2 1
Micky Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Garbage, from top to bottom, absolute garbage. This manager needs to have more than one stupid 'possession' philosophy, because we offered the square root of fuck all for the entirety of that game. If Sunderland can rip us a new one that easily, we will get well dicked by better sides. Absolute crap. 8
James Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Just now, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: Don't understand that starting lineup? Why start Mara when we have Fraser, who given his time at Newcastle would probably have thrived against their biggest rivals. Why no Charles when he could have offered some protection to the two centre backs, who've never played together before? Still not sure about Edozie. I'd have put A. Armstrong out there and let Che play the central role. So many bizarre decisions. I knew we'd struggle when I saw the team but a 5-0 hiding was unexpected. Mara shouldn't play again this season, send him to the kids until he regains his confidence. At the moment he is nowhere near. As for Holgate, fuck me. 1 1
OldNick Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 11pm last night we were supposed to have the best squad in the league apparently on here lol 3
Charlie Wayman Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Honeymoon over Russ! Welcome to the real world of football. Did we create one real chaance? If you think Smallbone / Armstrong is a better choice than Charles / Alcaraz in midfield then you deserve all you get. We were over-run in midfield and that's why. Poor old Baz will get the blame on here of course. 6
Lone ranger Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Out thought and out played. Better manager won the day 1
davefizzy14 Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Such a poor performance. Nowhere near good enough all over the pitch.
VectisSaint Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Holgate, Bazunu and Manning absolutely shocking. Can see why Holgate was out of it at Everton.Manning defensively was diabolical. People who thought we were well stocked at CB need to look at that and realise we are piss poor there especially with Stephens injured. No height at the back either. Hope THB is as good as everyone thinks. Just what we didn't need going into the break. 1
Chez Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Not sure why Baz is being made the fall guy. The performance of the outfield players, shape and tactics were the issue. 2 1
saintant Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 4 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Good goalkeeping again there from Baz Chocolate wrists as always - gets a hand to it but his wrist just opens like a cat-flap.
Baird of the land Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Regret paying £11 to watch that garbage on Sky.(though glad i switched off just before end and missed 5th) Annoying there's an internatonal break as you worry the reaction you'd expect to this pathetic display will be muted by time. Not sure anyone comes out with credit. Bazanu made a couple of saves in 2nd half but first half he was dire. I really worry in particular about his reactions, he seems so slow to get down and across for shots. Wings is a major issue for me. We've lost a quality wide player in Tella and not replaced him. We badly need some good version of sulemana as Edozie isn't good enough to start and that just leaves fraser.
OttawaSaint Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Just switched over to Everton and Pickford made an incredible double save at the death to keep a point for them. Shows just how valuable a decent keeper can be. 1
Paul.Studio Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Worse than the 0-9 scored. Every Sunderland player to a man better than ours. No-one deserves credit - suppose it was going to happen sometime and he has 2 weeks to sort it out. Must not lose to Leicester or Ipswich now - hopefully Mellis and Stewart will be fit enough to start one or both. Extreme sympathy to the traveling fans - you deserve a refund!! 2
Toussaint Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 1 minute ago, James said: I knew we'd struggle when I saw the team but a 5-0 hiding was unexpected. Mara shouldn't play again this season, send him to the kids until he regains his confidence. At the moment he is nowhere near. As for Holgate, fuck me. I don’t think it’s confidence with him, I think he’s shockingly lackadaisical
Mr Saints Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 That’s been coming with how defensively open we’ve looked all season. Our midfield is always the wrong side of the ball during the transition. Pair that with our keeper being unable to get down to anything long range and it’s no surprise. That last goal was fucking sunday league, embarrassing. 8
ButtikonSaint Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Sunderland deserved it... They didn't need to make us look bad, we did that all by ourselves. 2 weeks of daily 12h defending sessions needed...
BotleySaint Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Leicester at home next after the break.. Can't say I'm looking forward to that. With Bazunu in goal it's liable to be another thrashing.
James Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 Just now, Chez said: Not sure why Baz is being made the fall guy. The performance of the outfield players, shape and tactics were the issue. Because his clanger changed the game. At 2-0 down at half time it's not great but possibly salvageable but at 3-0 is game over. Is all when and good making some saves when the game is lost and the pressure is off. If we are 1-0 and holding on in a key game is anyone trusting Baz to put in a Kelvin v Leeds performance which you need to go up? I'm not. 3
trousers Posted 2 September, 2023 Posted 2 September, 2023 A one-off shite performance or a sign of things to come? Some worrying signs for sure but impossible to come to any conclusions just yet... time will tell. #pragmatism
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