Plymouth 1-2 Saints - FT

[coalman]

Sub Sam Amo-Ayew for Tella and Ballard for AdamA

[Nolan]

Really don't think Edozie had been up to standard this half, and our balance is off.

Bring on Amo-Ameyaw to go on right, and switch Tella over to the left 

[lambtiss]

All fart and no shit so far. 

[Miltonaggro]

Needs someone to get hold of this, but decent position at halftime away from home. 

[BotleySaint]

We're as boring and mundane as Russel Martins managerial record. 

[obelisk]

If Argyle were any way competent in the final third Saints would be chasing this game.

[Saint Matty 76]

Be nice to see the reason we’re desperate to hold onto Tella in this second half. Amo-Ameyaw looked infinitely better this season.

[washsaint]

The 2 Armstrong have been awful as has Edozie.  Zero attacking threat

[Southner]

This has 'meh' vibes. 

[petermcpete]

I put a few quid on both teams to score so almost certain to be a 0-0, sorry guys.

[LGTL]

God that was awful. Plymouth are horrendous, and thank fuck because we’re so open. Midfield non existent. This is what happens when any ounce of quality is removed from a squad. 

Edited 19 August, 2023 by LGTL

[ButtikonSaint]

ummm... guess we're lucky to test our patched up midfield against a newly promoted team.
Certainly missing Smallbone's craft.
Bring on Ballard

[northam soul]

From what I have seen so far take the money for Tella.

Plymouth have had about six occasions where they have been 4 on four with our back line.

Big gaping hole in the middle of the park.

With all those supposed attacking players on the pitch we have offered very little going forward.

[adrian lord]

Lucky to be still awake

[saintant]

Very poor half from us. Don't understand all this walking football, we need far more zip and we're making it easy for them to defend against us. They look far more dangerous in the transition and we'll pay if we aren't careful. Edozie has offered nothing so I'd like to see Amo brought on sooner than later. If we don't up the tempo this will probably end in a one nil defeat from a mistake by us. Charles has looked good for his age and got through some great work.

[ashnats]

So strange watching the half then coming on here and seeing the dismay. We look by far the better team, controlling the game and looking dangerous. Missing var, otherwise think we'd be one or two up. Expect us to break them down second half.  

As a defender, I'd absolutely hate to play against edozie - their right back will be knackered by about 65mins in.

[Micky]

Yet more pointless, passive possession.  No end product. Boring. 

[tdmickey3]

Boring shite

Pass pass pass pass and all ends up in absolutely nothing

[gammon cheeks]

Plymouths lack of quality is all thats keeping us in the game to be honest.   Downes , Alcarez and Smallbone playing and its a different game

[ScandiSaint]

Our lack of sustained control compared to Sheff Wed game shows how much we miss JWP I think (not ignoring the difference in opposition).

Every time we lose the ball and don't recover quickly we look very vulnerable at the back. But Argyle not capitalising at all thankfully. 

Edited 19 August, 2023 by ScandiSaint

[OttawaSaint]

You know those dreams where you end up in a fight and swing a punch with all your might but it feels like you're underwater and the punch ends up being as soft as fuck?

Yeah, that's Saints.

[AlexLaw76]

For Plymouth’s lack of quality in the final 3rd, this would be all over: they have us well and truly sussed 

charles looks very good mind 

[Mr Brightside]

I don’t think it’s that bad. Plymouth’s home record is ridiculous, they’ve come into this full of confidence, but on the whole we’ve kept them and the crowd quiet and managed the game ok. Especially considering the midfield we’ve had to put out there. 
Keep the ball, stay patient, wear them out, we’ll nick it. 


 

[zurichboy]

One team from last season's Premier league against another team from last season's League 1....hard to tell which is which. Do we still think that we're automatic promotion candidates!

[Nolan]

3 minutes ago, ButtikonSaint said:

ummm... guess we're lucky to test our patched up midfield against a newly promoted team.
Certainly missing Smallbone's craft.
Bring on Ballard

Ballard was taken off at 60 for the u21's last night. He'll get minutes come 65-75

[Saint NL]

I think we all got a bit over excited and predicted goals, the games been anything but a goal fest.

Edozie, Tella and KWP all poor, we have zero width. Give Sam A-A a go, he looks very fast and direct which is the complete opposite of what we saw in the first half.

I thought Charles started well, but seemed to be overrun by the end.

 

[qwertyell]

Seems pig headed to try and stick to tippy tappy football when you don't have a midfield available. 

Neither Armstrong belongs there. Charles has done a decent job in the circumstances, having to cover the entirety of the middle third of the park on his own.

Plymouth the more likely to score, but to be honest the quality in this game is garbage.

 

[captainchris]

So, we lose possession and they are up to our penalty area in three passes.

Yet again the midfield is absent and Martin hasn’t addressed this. 
 

This team are not close to promotion candidates… 

[obelisk]

Just the sort of game where the visitors should nick it 0-1. But this is Saints so it'll probably end 3-0.

[The Curse of St Mary's]

The doomsayers are on mass it seems. It was nowhere near as bad as some make out. We need to plug the gap between defence and midfield to help contain the counters. Overall defended well I thought. A bit more guile in final third as well needed. SAA for Tella and perhaps stick lyanco in the middle with Charles given we have no other midfielders. 

[miserableoldgit]

13 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

Plymouth are fucking awful, got to win this game.

No.....we are.......none of our players look interested.......apparently.....

[Nolan]

Just now, zurichboy said:

One team from last season's Premier league against another team from last season's League 1....hard to tell which is which. Do we still think that we're automatic promotion candidates!

Absolutely, Burnley only really clicked after match 5 last season.

This is only match 3 of a new system, and we've not rebuilt yet.

 

[Convict Colony]

Watching this game while the missus is driving badly at 150 is not recommended.

[sfc4prem]

2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

For Plymouth’s lack of quality in the final 3rd, this would be all over: they have us well and truly sussed 

charles looks very good mind 

Think he's been caught a few times by some simple turns, flicks or lobbed passes.

[saintant]

Surely the reason for a passing game is to draw the opponent out and exploit the spaces created. We seem to just pass for the sake of it with no purpose or end product so everything just fizzles out. It has to be much quicker and we need players getting in between the lines. It aint rocket science.

[The Realist]

as others have said, too slow in attack and then on transition, although Charles lloks decent, there are big gaps in centre midfield. If Argyle had a better final pass, we could have been in trouble in this game. Not sure what we do to change this as the way we play, I'd rather have 2 holding midfielders.

[CB Fry]

Plymouth sloppy as hell, not quite the free scoring dominant wonder team people on here have been shitting themselves about all week.

They can beat us today, but they really shouldn't.

[SNSUN]

Champions win shit games 1 nil. 😁

It beggars belief we are probably going to need A-A and Doyle on here. Talented youngsters but enough with the outs now, we need some ins.

[saintant]

Predict we'll see Plymouth come surging out of the blocks and put us to the sword- their manager will have seen there's nothing to fear here. We need to change and not just a little.

[Southner]

10 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

All fart and no shit so far. 

We need Flynn. 

[GDog07]

Come on lads, need 7pts from 3!

Need a wee sweetener, a wee statement to attract those top-tier Championship players that we’re on a promotion push before this summer window shuts!

[saintant]

1 minute ago, Southner said:

We need Flynn. 

Plus 3 or 4 others.

[adrian lord]

4 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Watching this game while the missus is driving badly at 150 is not recommended.

There really ought to be mandatory re-tests when one reaches 75 years. 

[miserableoldgit]

3 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said:

I don’t think it’s that bad. Plymouth’s home record is ridiculous, they’ve come into this full of confidence, but on the whole we’ve kept them and the crowd quiet and managed the game ok. Especially considering the midfield we’ve had to put out there. 
Keep the ball, stay patient, wear them out, we’ll nick it. 


 

Don't be so silly. It is dreadful.....Saints are shit......most players not interested......we don't stand a chance of promotion........you must have read at least 90% of the posts from the Forum "Big Brains?" Just stop any hint of positivity then you will fit in well.

[benjii]

Patterns of play etc. on the ball are good. Dominating again in an away match that was marked down as a tricky banana skin.

We do desperately need more in centre mid though. Charles isn't even really sitting deep, he's pushing up to win the ball and then there's a big gap between midfield and back line. Full backs being narrow help to plug it but Plymouth want to go direct and wide, so it suits them. 

[Miltonaggro]

When we finally sign players we must sign leaders and winners, our first team squad is so meek and passive it’s painful. Martin’s Barca impersonation will only work if we have better players than the oppo and a desire to dominate and dictate. 

[The Juice]

As noted, Plymouth's lack of quality is all that has kept this at 0-0; against a better front three, we'd have been really caught short.

That said, we know this is (hopefully) as thin and as weak as the squad will look this season and we're in the game. 

Would like to see SAA on and Che dropping a little deeper to get hold of the ball.. maybe a chance for Ballard in front of him.  

[SNSUN]

Bright start

[coalman]

Good effort

[lambtiss]

Much better from Edozie there