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Dman

Dman

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8 hours ago, rooney said:

In the last few games FD played I noticed that he fairly regularly gave the all away to our opponents although I would agree he was one of our best players last season.

Much like Armstrong and a few others, he's simply not quick or strong enough for this level. The step up in physical attributes is absolutely astonishing. 

The longer this goes on the harder it is to see hiim ever playing for us again. Someone who'll jack it in and throw his toys out when the going gets tough, isn't the sort you want in your squad. 

Its a pretty embarrassing set of circumstances all round really and to think all of this is for fucking Ipswich... 

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St. Ciervo

St. Ciervo

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13 hours ago, Dman said:

Its a pretty embarrassing set of circumstances all round really and to think all of this is for fucking Ipswich... 

It just makes me think he really never wanted to come here at all. The stupid chicken stunt for his first weeks here looks different in this light. No evidence, he just seems like a whinging baby.

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saintoaks

saintoaks

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I'm actually gutted by this, i really like (Liked) him but you never know what goes on inside the Staplewood walls !! The big question was could he push on this year but so far the answer is no. I think he has a place in our poor side but currently he's probably not even training with the first team. Shame but we move on and so will he i expect.

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revolution saint

revolution saint

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Meh, doesn't really make much difference this season whether he plays or not and who knows what the situation is going to be in the summer.  It's in Downes interests to get it sorted though because it's a small pool of potential suitors who would be interested and capable of signing him.  Assuming Ipswich go down then I'd be surprised if they offer us anything close to getting our money back.

Not too fussed over the attitude stuff - no one knows the full story and players redeem themselves in the eyes of fans all the time.  Wasn't that long ago Bednarek was supposed to have a bad attitude, Puncheon was similar too.  

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sambosa75

sambosa75

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5 hours ago, revolution saint said:

Meh, doesn't really make much difference this season whether he plays or not and who knows what the situation is going to be in the summer.  It's in Downes interests to get it sorted though because it's a small pool of potential suitors who would be interested and capable of signing him.  Assuming Ipswich go down then I'd be surprised if they offer us anything close to getting our money back.

Not too fussed over the attitude stuff - no one knows the full story and players redeem themselves in the eyes of fans all the time.  Wasn't that long ago Bednarek was supposed to have a bad attitude, Puncheon was similar too.  

What we'd do for a Jason Puncheon now.  To think he couldn't get a game here towards the end.

Toussaint

Toussaint

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He really is a little shit. We are so desperately short in midfield and he still can’t bring himself to do what is right for those who pay for his millionaire lifestyle. He hasn’t been brilliant but he is considerably more effective than the apparition named Smallbone. 

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ApprenticeBillionaire

ApprenticeBillionaire

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2 hours ago, Toussaint said:

He really is a little shit. We are so desperately short in midfield and he still can’t bring himself to do what is right for those who pay for his millionaire lifestyle. He hasn’t been brilliant but he is considerably more effective than the apparition named Smallbone. 

What have I mssed?

Whar has he said/done?

St Louis

St Louis

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I don't support his attitude if he's just downed tools and is showing a bad attitude, but I imagine the scenario behind the scenes is this....
He's born and bred in Brentwood, which is less than an hour from Ipswich. I'm sure it would have massively appealed to go back that way (and the right side of the M25), probably for family reasons and happiness outside of the game. He also spent 15 years there as a youth and first team player.
It always felt to me like he reluctantly joined us on a permanent (he grew up a Hammer, so probably really wanted to break in there), but he came here late in the summer window as he seemed to like Martin and his style of play.
So I imagine he's hating every second of being here at the moment 😂 As I would if I wasn't a fan, with no choice of club!

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Sergei Gotsmanov

Sergei Gotsmanov

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5 minutes ago, St Louis said:

I don't support his attitude if he's just downed tools and is showing a bad attitude, but I imagine the scenario behind the scenes is....
He's born and bred in Brentwood, which is less than an hour from Ipswich. I'm sure it would have massively appealed to go back that way (and the right side of the M25), probably for family reasons and happiness outside of the game.
It always felt to me like he reluctantly joined us on a permanent (he grew up a Hammer, so probably really wanted to break in there), but he came here late in the summer window as he seemed to like Martin and his style of play.
So I imagine he's hating every second of being here at the moment 😂 As I would if I wasn't a fan, with no choice of club!

I would have him selling programmes if he refuses to play.

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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5 hours ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

What have I mssed?

Whar has he said/done?

It has been reported he has downed tools, not even in the squad, training alone. 

disconnect

disconnect

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15 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

It has been reported he has downed tools, not even in the squad, training alone. 

So we’re therefore not paying him due to breach of contract? 

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Sarnia Cherie

Sarnia Cherie

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8 hours ago, disconnect said:

So we’re therefore not paying him due to breach of contract? 

That's exactly what should happen. He is being paid, far too much, to kick a ball around a patch of grass. He isn't particularly good at it but he has now thrown his toys out of his pram and refuses to play, so he shouldn't be paid. If we are not seeing Harwood-Bellend for the same reason then he shouldn't be paid, either. 

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TheAlehouseBrawlers

TheAlehouseBrawlers

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11 hours ago, St Louis said:

I don't support his attitude if he's just downed tools

 

9 hours ago, Toussaint said:

It has been reported he has downed tools

The Daily Echo certainly missed out on a catchy headline there…

“FLYNN DOWNES TOOLS”

…amateurs

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Dman

Dman

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18 hours ago, Andy Hill said:

Get rid - been useless this season.

He wont be next season and realistically, if we "get rid" it would be to strengthen one of our rivals. 

Imo, it would be absolutely brain dead to "get rid"

Let the new manager (hopefully Rohl) come in and see if he can win him round.. He'll be vital to our sucess next season. 

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saintant

saintant

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25 minutes ago, Dman said:

He wont be next season and realistically, if we "get rid" it would be to strengthen one of our rivals. 

Imo, it would be absolutely brain dead to "get rid"

Let the new manager (hopefully Rohl) come in and see if he can win him round.. He'll be vital to our sucess next season. 

Sorry but if he's a bad apple we should get rid.

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trousers

trousers

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44 minutes ago, Dman said:

Imo, it would be absolutely brain dead to "get rid"

As you allude to, there are different but equally valid opinions on this. It could also be considered "brain dead" to keep someone who quite obviously doesn't want to be here and, seemingly, has a disruptive character trait when things aren't going his way. Yes, of course, there's a chance that he could be won around in due course, but keeping him on would be far from risk free in that regard.

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Sarnia Cherie

Sarnia Cherie

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2 hours ago, trousers said:

As you allude to, there are different but equally valid opinions on this. It could also be considered "brain dead" to keep someone who quite obviously doesn't want to be here and, seemingly, has a disruptive character trait when things aren't going his way. Yes, of course, there's a chance that he could be won around in due course, but keeping him on would be far from risk free in that regard.

Why should the club be trying to win him round? He has a contract to play football and his refusal should invalidate that contract. Kowtowing to him and players like him give them a power they should not be allowed to have. Clubs should clamp down hard and show these self-important players who hold a club to ransom that there are strict consequences for their behaviour, otherwise football will see more of this.

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trousers

trousers

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1 minute ago, Sarnia Cherie said:

Why should the club be trying to win him round?

I'm not saying they should; I was just outlining two different ways of looking at the situation. FWIW, I'm probably in the "get rid" camp.

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Patrick Bateman

Patrick Bateman

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I've said before, but with this team, I would not be sad if any player left the club - no player makes me feel like we should go all out to keep him. So as sad as it is, because I thought he was going to be good, if Downes is being a stroppy cock, then he can leave even sooner. If he ends up staying, he better be bloody good next season - a lot of goodwill to make up. 

LuckyNumber7

LuckyNumber7

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5 hours ago, Sarnia Cherie said:

That's exactly what should happen. He is being paid, far too much, to kick a ball around a patch of grass. He isn't particularly good at it but he has now thrown his toys out of his pram and refuses to play, so he shouldn't be paid. If we are not seeing Harwood-Bellend for the same reason then he shouldn't be paid, either. 

Eh? THB is injured, not sure why you're having a dig at him. Even though he has also been disappointing this season, one thing you can't question is his effort and that he clearly cares. Certainly not something you can say about Downes.

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benjii

benjii

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5 hours ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

 

The Daily Echo certainly missed out on a catchy headline there…

“FLYNN DOWNES TOOLS”

…amateurs

Apparently THB is also sulking.

He has Flynn Downes' Syndrome.

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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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7 minutes ago, Turkish said:

whats he sulking about? 

There is a rumour going around that I heard at the game, seems as others heard the same - but Fitzhugh rebutted that and claimed he has been at the training ground and is genuinely 100% injured.

We'll see I guess.

Turkish

Turkish

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3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

There is a rumour going around that I heard at the game, seems as others heard the same - but Fitzhugh rebutted that and claimed he has been at the training ground and is genuinely 100% injured.

We'll see I guess.

he doesnt seem like the type, Downes however you can imagine being a bit of a knob, has a bit of cockiness about him

Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd

Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd

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On 13/02/2025 at 14:17, IOWSaintDaz said:

Just wish he'd piss off really, whoever is mug enough to sign him is welcome to him

He's not the problem, the manager is. Do some homework. Juric has a reputation for poor relationships with his players. 

When Juric has gone I think you'll find most of the current squad will open up about how unliked he really was.

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bangkoksaint

bangkoksaint

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13 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

He's not the problem, the manager is. Do some homework. Juric has a reputation for poor relationships with his players. 

When Juric has gone I think you'll find most of the current squad will open up about how unliked he really was.

Out of interest is that because he is working them and cancelling days off? Apears that before him the players had it too easy and maybe dont like being told they have to graft. Obviously there are ways of doing that but I for one am fed up spending hard earned money watching what has been served up.

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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18 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

He's not the problem, the manager is. Do some homework. Juric has a reputation for poor relationships with his players. 

When Juric has gone I think you'll find most of the current squad will open up about how unliked he really was.

I see the lack of effort from most of the players at every home game.

The players can fuck off, with one or two honourable exceptions.

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Zorba

Zorba

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27 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Curses! I was pipped at the post to make an apple pun.

Not too bothered about Downes, the whole cider shit anyway. Bunch of coxs. I think they all need to grow a pear!

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St Louis

St Louis

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On 17/02/2025 at 07:47, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

 

The Daily Echo certainly missed out on a catchy headline there…

“FLYNN DOWNES TOOLS”

…amateurs

Sponsored by Draper? 🛠️

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disconnect

disconnect

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Prediction - Downes will be reintegrated before the end of the season and issue an apology. His name will be announced at St Marys to a chorus of boos, he'll then get pissed off and concede a stupid yellow early on with a leading elbow, then proceed to do something else stupid early in the second half to get himself sent off. Much like Martin's other favourite, Captain Jack. 

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