Lyanco in midfield?

[Oldandtired]

My son and I were having a discussion awhile back and the subject of a good defensive midfielder came up. We don’t think that Romeu has ever been replaced and we were wondering if perhaps Lyanco could fill that role. He is obviously a stopper, he’s quick and seems to have vision and a bit of flair about him.

There are probably quite a few reasons for this not to happen, but we just wondered if it was worth a go.

[beatlesaint]

  On 09/08/2023 at 12:30, Oldandtired said:

My son and I were having a discussion awhile back and the subject of a good defensive midfielder came up. We don’t think that Romeu has ever been replaced and we were wondering if perhaps Lyanco could fill that role. He is obviously a stopper, he’s quick and seems to have vision and a bit of flair about him.

There are probably quite a few reasons for this not to happen, but we just wondered if it was worth a go.

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i'd like his next club to try that option, preferably in the next couple of weeks 😁

[Saint Scott]

  On 09/08/2023 at 12:30, Oldandtired said:

My son and I were having a discussion awhile back and the subject of a good defensive midfielder came up. We don’t think that Romeu has ever been replaced and we were wondering if perhaps Lyanco could fill that role. He is obviously a stopper, he’s quick and seems to have vision and a bit of flair about him.

There are probably quite a few reasons for this not to happen, but we just wondered if it was worth a go.

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Martin/Wilcox clearly see his future away from the club (rightly so) with the failed move to Turkey and stripping him of the number 4 shirt.

[notnowcato]

Unfortunately no where near the technical skills to play a DM role.  He often panics under pressure when the game is in front of him, he'll shit the bed when pressure is coming at him 360.

[Toadhall Saint]

  On 09/08/2023 at 12:41, notnowcato said:

Unfortunately no where near the technical skills to play a DM role.  He often panics under pressure when the game is in front of him, he'll shit the bed when pressure is coming at him 360.

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Yup

[ally_uk]

Are you having a laugh? He might be passionate and best chest but as a footballer he is out of depth and cannot defend for toffee..... 

[Give it to Ron]

I blame Wetherspoons opening so early….Lyanco midfielder lol

[whiteleySaint30]

  On 09/08/2023 at 12:30, Oldandtired said:

My son and I were having a discussion awhile back and the subject of a good defensive midfielder came up. We don’t think that Romeu has ever been replaced and we were wondering if perhaps Lyanco could fill that role. He is obviously a stopper, he’s quick and seems to have vision and a bit of flair about him.

There are probably quite a few reasons for this not to happen, but we just wondered if it was worth a go.

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NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.....

[Turkish]

  On 09/08/2023 at 12:30, Oldandtired said:

My son and I were having a discussion awhile back and the subject of a good defensive midfielder came up. We don’t think that Romeu has ever been replaced and we were wondering if perhaps Lyanco could fill that role. He is obviously a stopper, he’s quick and seems to have vision and a bit of flair about him.

There are probably quite a few reasons for this not to happen, but we just wondered if it was worth a go.

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An interesting discussion no doubt and you make some interesting points. One of the main reasons for it not happening is he's a really shit footballer. 

[hypochondriac]

He should be left back. 

In the changing room. 

[SotonianWill]

  On 09/08/2023 at 12:54, Turkish said:

An interesting discussion no doubt and you make some interesting points. One of the main reasons for it not happening is he's a really shit footballer. 

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But he can rainbow flick a striker in his own penalty area. 

[Jeremy Corbyn]

  On 09/08/2023 at 12:54, whiteleySaint30 said:

NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.....

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The main argument in favour of him playing in midfield is it means he's further away from his own goal

[Turkish]

  On 09/08/2023 at 12:58, SotonianWill said:

But he can rainbow flick a striker in his own penalty area. 

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and he has passion!!!

[Oldandtired]

Well I did say there are reasons for this not to happen….😎

[Daft Kerplunk]

Erratic passing, poor positioning. Perfect 😂

[CSA96]

Sweet Jesus

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 09/08/2023 at 13:10, Oldandtired said:

Well I did say there are reasons for this not to happen….😎

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Is one of those because the psychedelics are wearing off now?

[once_bitterne]

One of the worst footballers I've ever seen.  (and I remember Alan 'Gordon' Bennett and Pedro 'Pele - lol' Montiero.

[stknowle]

  On 09/08/2023 at 12:30, Oldandtired said:

My son and I were having a discussion awhile back and the subject of a good defensive midfielder came up. We don’t think that Romeu has ever been replaced and we were wondering if perhaps Lyanco could fill that role. He is obviously a stopper, he’s quick and seems to have vision and a bit of flair about him.

There are probably quite a few reasons for this not to happen, but we just wondered if it was worth a go.

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Fess up O&T is you Papa Lyanco? 😜

[Toadhall Saint]

I se the title and….

[Saint_clark]

We should sign Frazer Richardson again and play him as a sweeper just in front of the defence. 

[Appy]

Didn’t we have this thread last season? 
 

It’s a fucking nonsense idea. 

[S-Clarke]

Can he play in the middle aisle of Lidl? That's more suited to his abilities, and as far away from us as possible.

[skintsaint]

Dynamic defensive midfield pairing of him and Stephens.

[LGTL]

He’s absolute shit in his main position. Imagine how horrific he’ll be anywhere else. 

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

The squarest of pegs in the roundest of holes.

[Saint86]

No.

[Baird of the land]

Brings back fond memories of the Jack Stephens as a defensive midfielder theory. The practice was awful.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Anyone else's midfield I don't mind a bit. Ours? Not a chance, thanks.

I get the thought behind it. But Martin, and others are looking for a skillset of control, possession, timed distribution and game management. A guy banging his chest and rushing in to do what he likes might not be the best fit.

[The Kraken]

  On 09/08/2023 at 18:24, Baird of the land said:

Brings back fond memories of the Jack Stephens as a defensive midfielder theory. The practice was awful.

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Oh, that idea was struck well before that. Dan Seaborne as the front sweeper was a thing mooted on here once upon a time. I dare say it dates back even further than that.

[SNSUN]

  On 09/08/2023 at 19:02, The Kraken said:

Oh, that idea was struck well before that. Dan Seaborne as the front sweeper was a thing mooted on here once upon a time. I dare say it dates back even further than that.

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Alan Neilson is one that springs to mind as a defender that played in midfield...

[Master Bates]

I say why not, give it ago in the next cup match........

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 09/08/2023 at 19:13, Master Bates said:

I say why not, give it ago in the next cup match........

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Good idea. Just as long as he’s playing against us.

[IFHP]

What’s the fascination by some fans that somehow shit centre backs will make good defensive midfielders ?  

[Miltonaggro]

I think he’d be good in the middle of a field - preferably on Salisbury Plain! 

Edited 9 August, 2023 by Miltonaggro

[WestMidSaint]

He couldn’t play in the midfield of either of my kid’s teams!

The logic of suggesting that a player who is not good enough is his chosen position that’s he’s played for years can suddenly play in a new one??!!

[skintsaint]

Didnt he get thrown on up front at some point too? Modern day Paul Warhurst.

[StDunko]

  On 09/08/2023 at 22:07, skintsaint said:

Didnt he get thrown on up front at some point too? Modern day Paul Warhurst.

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Or Chris Sutton...

I rather see him up front and as far away from our goal as possible...

Plus can he be much worse than our current strikers?

[chiknsmack]

  On 09/08/2023 at 19:44, IFHP said:

What’s the fascination by some fans that somehow shit centre backs will make good defensive midfielders ?  

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He can tackle, he has decent technical skill on the ball, he's not good enough in the air to play CB effectively, and when he has one of his brain explosions it'll be further away from the goal.

A proper midfield enforcer to go around smashing into opposition attackers when they're on the break is better than a Smallbone/JWP they'd be less afraid of. The reason Lyanco is as popular as he is is because he's one of the few players in the past few years to show a bit of aggression and passion and get stuck in. There's less value in that now that we're in the Championship and should be a big fish in a small pond (dominating possession and relying on a skill advantage to win games) rather than the reverse, but in the past couple of years having someone who could lift the crowd and his teammates by throwing himself into a tackle or two would've been considerably better at DM than Diallo was.

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 10/08/2023 at 05:35, chiknsmack said:

He can tackle, he has decent technical skill on the ball, he's not good enough in the air to play CB effectively, and when he has one of his brain explosions it'll be further away from the goal.

A proper midfield enforcer to go around smashing into opposition attackers when they're on the break is better than a Smallbone/JWP they'd be less afraid of. The reason Lyanco is as popular as he is is because he's one of the few players in the past few years to show a bit of aggression and passion and get stuck in. There's less value in that now that we're in the Championship and should be a big fish in a small pond (dominating possession and relying on a skill advantage to win games) rather than the reverse, but in the past couple of years having someone who could lift the crowd and his teammates by throwing himself into a tackle or two would've been considerably better at DM than Diallo was.

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He is too aggressive. This leads to him over hitting the ball. In midfield what is needed is someone with a cool head. Someone who can pick up intercepts, snuff out threats and play silky, controlled passes to his teammates.

[once_bitterne]

This is like buying a car, finding out it won't start but trying to console yourself by thinking if you wedge a bottle of beer under the wheel arch it works like a very poor bottle opener.

[sledger]

no disrespect intended but this thread starter is either on the wind up or high on something.Had he said jack stephens at dm i might have run with it at least he has some ability on the ball

[Micky]

I'm assuming your predictive text got the better of you and you meant minefield, in which case, yes he'd be right at home in all the chaos. 

[kitch]

  On 10/08/2023 at 10:18, once_bitterne said:

This is like buying a car, finding out it won't start but trying to console yourself by thinking if you wedge a bottle of beer under the wheel arch it works like a very poor bottle opener.

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This deserves a quote post!

[coalman]

It's not even a matter of putting square pegs in round holes. It's more like trying to paint your house using a fish.

[Miltonaggro]

One thing this discussion is missing is Lyanco’s intelligence as a footballer - it’s very obvious to those of us with an eye for talent that he’s as thick as pigshit. 

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 10/08/2023 at 16:28, Miltonaggro said:

One thing this discussion is missing is Lyanco’s intelligence as a footballer - it’s very obvious to those of us with an eye for talent that he’s as thick as pigshit. 

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I think you’re being a bit unkind there.

 

To pigshit.

[Dellman]

  On 10/08/2023 at 09:06, Whitey Grandad said:

He is too aggressive. This leads to him over hitting the ball. In midfield what is needed is someone with a cool head. Someone who can pick up intercepts, snuff out threats and play silky, controlled passes to his teammates.

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You mean JWP