Saint Billy Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Shea Charles 😳👏 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Fastenbüttl Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 4 minutes ago, adrian lord said: Martin just needs to tweak it at the back, and we will motor the rest of the season Agreed. If by "tweak" you mean "replace both central defenders and the keeper with proper footballers". 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 That was a lot of fun. This season is going to be edge of the seat stuff sometimes and I'm bang up for it 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegalEagle Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Well it’s obvious where the problems lie. Forget about Piroe. Get two new central defenders and GK. Job done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 6 minutes ago, adrian lord said: Martin just needs to tweak it at the back, and we will motor the rest of the season you make sound so easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, obelisk said: Got out of jail there. Suicidal defending and endlessly giving the ball away in midfield were very costly. this so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 OMG how bad is our defense. Bednerak is an absolute car crash even at this level. Stephens... not a great deal better while Manning and KWP have zero protection (not with standing Manning balls up for there 4th) as for Bazuna... the disallowed goal from the free kick got him out of jail because that was bloody awful. He has to push that wide even though I think he is close enough to hold it. Could be an exciting season... and cant see this defence being strong enough for an automatic promotion spot. Adams head looks else where to me...but that Sam kid looks amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Awesome going forward, defensively a disaster. Alcaraz is unplayable in this league. IF there were any prem scouts at the game then he will be gone by the end of the month. The new set piece coach has got his work cut out. Sell ABK or bedders quickly and bring in some strength / pace at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButtikonSaint Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 (edited) crasy game... at least more entertaining than last year's dross... Whilst Charly remains out most potent and creative attacking force, the SAA kid looks the real deal. Less said of our defense the better Edited 12 August, 2023 by ButtikonSaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Just now, wild-saint said: Awesome going forward, defensively a disaster. Alcaraz is unplayable in this league. IF there were any prem scouts at the game then he will be gone by the end of the month. The new set piece coach has got his work cut out. Sell ABK or bedders quickly and bring in some strength / pace at CB. No we are not. Not at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 I'm not proud of an insurance bet when it was 3-3, but I am happy I cashed out just before we got the equaliser. A draw was deserved that game but we need to both improve defensively and keep hold of our attacking talent. My daughter's first game, my wife quietly sat next to me (she yelped when Sara scored), all in all I've had a good day that Saints could have ruined! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 I'm no statto but I'm prepared to bet a reasonable sum that we have never drawn 4-4 in the last home fixture of one season and then drawn 4-4 in the first home fixture of the following season. Only managed to watch last 15 minutes which was long enough to see we are appalling at the back and good up front. The former simply has to improve - A LOT - or we ain't going up. Sort it Martin, football is played in two halves, it ain't all about pretty passing triangles up front. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Just now, ButtikonSaint said: crasy game... at least more entertaining than last year's dross... Whilst Charly remains out most potent creative and attacking force, the SAA kid looks the real deal. Less said of our defense the better what i like about both of them they are both happy to drive at the defence and in charly's case shoot and nearly always hit the target. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, LegalEagle said: Well it’s obvious where the problems lie. Forget about Piroe. Get two new central defenders and GK. Job done. Just need to shift ABK, Lyanco and Simeu ..and McCarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Good test, Norwich will be somewhere around top 6 come the final whistle. Got to keep Che and AA, when they really hit their straps the goals will flow. 8 goals today, already loving the champ. Mental league. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Stephens for their 4th was right out of the Janny B playbook. Those 2 always seem to deflect the ball perfectly for an oncoming attacker. It's uncanny how they do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Well it was certainly interesting. Can't get promoted being so fundamentally easy to play through and incapable of defending in the air. I'll go on record early doors as stating Russell Martin will turn out to be a Poundland Brendan Rodgers. But it was a good old laugh. Which is something - replacing the weekly doom and gloom with slapstick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Great going forward, defending… not so great. Getting something from the game after going behind three times, that is promising. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 My Takeaway is this: Keeper is a liability put some reddies on the table and replace with experience. Stephens and Bednarek I'm sorry but even at this level they are pretty average. Midfield is a bit weak. We need at minimum: 1 GK who can actually save a football. 1 centre back who can defend and actually is comfortable on ball. A midfielder who is a destroyer type straight in no messing about whack! Get the ball and link the attack again don't cut corners experience! Any reddies left over then a new striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, wild-saint said: Awesome going forward, defensively a disaster. Alcaraz is unplayable in this league. IF there were any prem scouts at the game then he will be gone by the end of the month. They all had a good look last season, but seemingly no takers...yet. got to try and keep him or we will have almost nothing left quality wise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Maybe sign that England captain to play centre half - Millie Bright I think she's called. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block41 Saint Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 We need to make signings. We're far too lightweight at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chez said: Just need to shift ABK, Lyanco and Simeu ..and McCarthy. If ABK is actually injured rather than 'injured' he'd probably be well suited to this defensive approach. Wonder if the link to Holgate is because he's got some element of recovery pace. Edited 12 August, 2023 by Baird of the land 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 (edited) That has to be one of the poorest off the ball performances I’ve ever seen from a Saints side I can remember. Utterly woeful. Zero shape or organisation. Total football going forward, total chaos defensively. Having a GK who can save shots would be helpful. Edited 12 August, 2023 by Crab Lungs 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Stephens is the new captain so he will be playing. We need someone comfortable with the ball at their feet along side him and a good defensive mid to help protect. we should be calling city and getting Harwood-Bellis in, he’s never going to play for City and only has a year left on his contract I believe. If we don’t someone else will… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 6 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: No we are not. Not at all. oh yes sorry my mistake , you are right we are fucking shyte going forward. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Oh man, that was exhausting even watching a small streaming screen with no sound (thanks for the link and big fat fail for SaintsPlayer which was paid for and didn't work - admin, please note and send message to club). Plenty to be encouraged about. Thank goodness we equalised at the end - thoroughly deserved something out of that and should probably have edged it. Defensive frailties need to be resolved. Terrible defending from the corner for their third...and did we only have 10 men on the field for their fourth against the run of play. I like our possession football and we had twice as many shots as they did. We will winn plenty of games this season if we play like this BUT must be more solid in defence. Bednarek and Stephens will always have a mistake in them every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Baird of the land said: If ABK is actually injured rather than 'injured' he'd probably be well suited to this defensive approach. Wonder if the link to Holgate is because he's got some element of recovery pace. I think unlike Sulemana he really is injured (on way back from injury). ABK would be ideal. He has a mistake in him, but he has pace and power. Realistically he's not going to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Why have we spent £15m On a defensive midfielder and don’t play him when he’s the only one available in that postion? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said: That has to be one of the poorest off the ball performances I’ve ever seen from a Saints side I can remember. Utterly woeful. Zero shape or organisation. Total football going forward, total chaos defensively. Sounds like midfield not doing their job right and poor positionally? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Twice as many shots and attempts on target and yellow cards , still time for decent signings ….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southner Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 We surely can't keep with the 'we'll score one more than you' tactic. Will make for an extremely long season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Why have we spent £15m On a defensive midfielder and don’t play him when he’s the only one available in that postion? Doesn't make sense to me either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Contrary to recent seasons…we will win more than we will lose this season. As Swansea fans stated…we will concede with ease,especially with our supposed defence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southner Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 50 minutes ago, Chez said: Someone posted similar after the Leicester game last season. My comment is restricted to today only 🙃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, Turkish said: Why have we spent £15m On a defensive midfielder and don’t play him when he’s the only one available in that postion? I think his passing was excellent when he came on. And he sacrificed a yellow card for the team. He starts for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Chez said: Sounds like midfield not doing their job right and poor positionally? We had no defensive midfielder until Charles came on so there were numerous times when Norwich strolled through acres of open space at will. This meant the CB's were badly exposed, see their second for an example where the player had loads of time to pick a spot. As neat and tidy as Smallbone is he isn't a CDM and won't be able to cope with the defensive part of that role. I think Charles needs to play, although it did make for a very exciting, open game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjurwi Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 None of the goals today was Baz fault. We still need a more experienced GK that isn't McCarthy. Great game from Alcaraz and Smallbone. Tella didn't do much and neither did any of the Armstrongs. Edozie ok. Adams great goal. Charles did fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 15 minutes ago, wild-saint said: Awesome going forward, defensively a disaster. Alcaraz is unplayable in this league. IF there were any prem scouts at the game then he will be gone by the end of the month. The new set piece coach has got his work cut out. Sell ABK or bedders quickly and bring in some strength / pace at CB. ABK has great recovery pace and would surely monster this league if his head is in the right place. We persuade him to stick around, and play him with Bednarek; that would improve things at the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 1 minute ago, The Cat said: We had no defensive midfielder until Charles came on so there were numerous times when Norwich strolled through acres of open space at will. This meant the CB's were badly exposed, see their second for an example where the player had loads of time to pick a spot. As neat and tidy as Smallbone is he isn't a CDM and won't be able to cope with the defensive part of that role. I think Charles needs to play, although it did make for a very exciting, open game. 100% agree 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 4 minutes ago, Southner said: We surely can't keep with the 'we'll score one more than you' tactic. Will make for an extremely long season. Isn't that the basis of trying to win any football match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Had a great time today, been a while since I’ve thought that at St Mary’s. Feel like we’ll score 4 goals playing like that a lot of a time, not sure we’ll concede 4. Delighted with Shea’s cameo too, the issue first half was with the unbalanced midfield. Che has to start whenever he’s here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Isn't that the basis of trying to win any football match? Not really. You can have a tactic where you intend to score 2 or 3 (some teams even aim to score 9) more goals than the opposition, rather than just 1. Edited 12 August, 2023 by wadesmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Disappointing to concede 4 goals, and to have generally defended so poorly, but also important to remember that we have a new system that the players will still be getting used to. The fact we scored 4 is a big positive. Once the midfield is more settled I expect we will control games better than we did today, which will help defensively. Hopefully we strengthen at both ends of the pitch in the coming weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 19 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said: Stephens for their 4th was right out of the Janny B playbook. Those 2 always seem to deflect the ball perfectly for an oncoming attacker. It's uncanny how they do it. Wasn't it manning ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Cat said: We had no defensive midfielder until Charles came on so there were numerous times when Norwich strolled through acres of open space at will. This meant the CB's were badly exposed, see their second for an example where the player had loads of time to pick a spot. As neat and tidy as Smallbone is he isn't a CDM and won't be able to cope with the defensive part of that role. I think Charles needs to play, although it did make for a very exciting, open game. Exactly this I think even with the current squad set up right now, a dominating CB is also our priority… its not going to be the easiest find, but I think we need a CB both good in the air and able enough in possession and in 1 v 1 situations Outside of anything else it looks our most needed reinforcement to me Behind that, a CM to provide competition and probably a GK to take Baz out of the firing line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Just now, Yorkshire Saint said: Wasn't it manning ? Definitely Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 Just now, Yorkshire Saint said: Wasn't it manning ? Stephens was absent, he was JS man who just left him, because he can’t mark effectively Manning had to cover but agreed he didn’t do a decent job either 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 8 minutes ago, saint lard said: Contrary to recent seasons…we will win more than we will lose this season. As Swansea fans stated…we will concede with ease,especially with our supposed defence. I thought we'd concede goals due to misplaced passes by CBs asked to do more than they are capable of. Overplaying etc. Was that the case today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 12 August, 2023 Share Posted 12 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Yorkshire Saint said: Wasn't it manning ? Yes, sorry, was watching a shitty stream. Just seen it back. Seems like the Janny B fallover and shank to the oppo for an easy chance is contagious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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