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  On 03/02/2025 at 19:57, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Am guessing he wasn't going to sign a new deal. Better to get something for him then letting his contract run down. Hoping we"ve put a decent sized sell on clause if he does realise his potential.

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Strasbourg are Chelsea's Valenciennes, so if he does realise his potential he probably ends up at Chelsea for a nominal fee.

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Need to keep the right wing slot free for Arma/BBD/Fraser.

Plus Stewart. 

Good riddance. 

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  On 03/02/2025 at 22:09, chiknsmack said:

Strasbourg are Chelsea's Valenciennes, so if he does realise his potential he probably ends up at Chelsea for a nominal fee.

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And then he won’t play for them either … but the £ will more than make up for that 

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SAA now playing and scoring against Lyon... But ofc, not good enough for saints this season or next season, and absolutely not worth keeping hold off for just a little bit longer as his value increased..

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  On 29/03/2025 at 07:50, Saint86 said:

SAA now playing and scoring against Lyon... But ofc, not good enough for saints this season or next season, and absolutely not worth keeping hold off for just a little bit longer as his value increased..

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Correct, he was not good enough for this season, probably wont be next season and wasn't worth keeping hold of. For the most part he has been an unused sub for Strasbourg, since we sold him.

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  On 29/03/2025 at 11:30, Suhari said:

Did we sell him? Thought it was a loan.

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Obligatory purchase at the end of it.

That, and SAA hanging onto their training room door screaming "Don't send me back! Please, not there!"

 

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https://www.tribalfootball.com/article/soccer-ligue-1-done-deal-southampton-forward-amo-ameyaw-completes-loan-move-to-strasbourg-b1319caf-b608-4da2-aa7d-42bd50c92e0b

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Posted
  On 29/03/2025 at 07:50, Saint86 said:

SAA now playing and scoring against Lyon... But ofc, not good enough for saints this season or next season, and absolutely not worth keeping hold off for just a little bit longer as his value increased..

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One thing that has really annoyed me (mainly because of Martin) was that SAA was behind some absolute dross in the pecking order. He should've been given more opportunities. The permanent signing of Fraser for example was a joke. Just like selling Alcaraz because he didn't suit the style of play. 

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  On 29/03/2025 at 11:40, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Obligatory purchase at the end of it.

That, and SAA hanging onto their training room door screaming "Don't send me back! Please, not there!"

 

Edit: Link

https://www.tribalfootball.com/article/soccer-ligue-1-done-deal-southampton-forward-amo-ameyaw-completes-loan-move-to-strasbourg-b1319caf-b608-4da2-aa7d-42bd50c92e0b

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Wow. That's disappointing. Of course after Meglomana (no idea of the spelling!), and Alcarez moved on.

Talented players all. Shame.

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  On 29/03/2025 at 09:14, Lighthouse said:

Correct, he was not good enough for this season, probably wont be next season and wasn't worth keeping hold of. For the most part he has been an unused sub for Strasbourg, since we sold him.

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He's been there barely 2 months, had to settle in to a new country,  culture, and style of football, and I believe he had a bit of injury trouble as well... But when he's scoring against Lyon at his age i'd say your view is pretty poor / out of whack on this one. It's really poor business by the club. Doubly so as there is absolutely no mention of a sell on clause! Also, why should we condemn and 17/18 year old as not good enough because they can't step up to the prem at their age and In this dross team?

Also, our new sporting director has basically come out and criticised letting both SAA and meghoma go... But hey ho, maybe we should have hired Lighthouse as the new director of football, what does spors know after all? 😅😂

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  On 29/03/2025 at 20:32, Saint86 said:

He's been there barely 2 months, had to settle in to a new country,  culture, and style of football, and I believe he had a bit of injury trouble as well... But when he's scoring against Lyon at his age i'd say your view is pretty poor / out of whack on this one. It's really poor business by the club. Doubly so as there is absolutely no mention of a sell on clause! Also, why should we condemn and 17/18 year old as not good enough because they can't step up to the prem at their age and In this dross team?

Also, our new sporting director has basically come out and criticised letting both SAA and meghoma go... But hey ho, maybe we should have hired Lighthouse as the new director of football, what does spors know after all? 😅😂

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Neither Martin, nor Juric, nor apparently Strasbourg's manager seems to have shown much interest in him and he looked a long way off being a decent Championship player last season. Will he be a decent player one day? Sure, maybe, who knows but there's no reason at all to think he'd have brought anything to our squad this season or that his value would have gone up just from keeping him around. If anything, with very little game time, he'd have probably left on a free when his contract expired.

Rather like Tella, I've no idea why people get so upset about a player who did nothing here leaving for a decent fee.

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  On 29/03/2025 at 20:32, Saint86 said:

He's been there barely 2 months, had to settle in to a new country,  culture, and style of football, and I believe he had a bit of injury trouble as well... But when he's scoring against Lyon at his age i'd say your view is pretty poor / out of whack on this one. It's really poor business by the club. Doubly so as there is absolutely no mention of a sell on clause! Also, why should we condemn and 17/18 year old as not good enough because they can't step up to the prem at their age and In this dross team?

Also, our new sporting director has basically come out and criticised letting both SAA and meghoma go... But hey ho, maybe we should have hired Lighthouse as the new director of football, what does spors know after all? 😅😂

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I miss the meltdowns on here about how could we possibly let Jankewitz go he's a world class megastar in the making etc etc etc etc

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If we had played him regularly this season his value could have been big like diblings .. I mean dibling has a 100 m tag on him now just for beating players and nice dribbling, Sam just as capable of doing the same always looked great on the chances he did get ..

wonder who made this decision to let him go ?

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  On 30/03/2025 at 14:21, pimpin4rizeal said:

If we had played him regularly this season his value could have been big like diblings .. I mean dibling has a 100 m tag on him now just for beating players and nice dribbling, Sam just as capable of doing the same always looked great on the chances he did get ..

wonder who made this decision to let him go ?

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I haven't got the faintest clue where you're getting that impression from, or how he ended up at Strasbourg when any other PL club could have picked him up for £10m, played him a bit and stuck a £100m price tag on him in summer.

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  On 30/03/2025 at 15:38, Lighthouse said:

I haven't got the faintest clue where you're getting that impression from, or how he ended up at Strasbourg when any other PL club could have picked him up for £10m, played him a bit and stuck a £100m price tag on him in summer.

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Not really sure what you mean .. when a kid breaks into the first team and shows potential the hype machine starts just as we have seen with dibling ….dibling hasn’t really contributed assists and only couple of goals .. Sam amo was basically In the  same bracket as dibling a young kid who can beat players with pace and dribbling hes looked great when he did get on the pitch.. you just seem to be taking the fact he didn’t get the chances dibling did as proof that’s he’s not good enough . He certainly looks better then tella and Nathan dyer did at similar age 

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  On 30/03/2025 at 14:21, pimpin4rizeal said:

If we had played him regularly this season his value could have been big like diblings .. I mean dibling has a 100 m tag on him now just for beating players and nice dribbling, Sam just as capable of doing the same always looked great on the chances he did get ..

wonder who made this decision to let him go ?

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No.

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  On 30/03/2025 at 15:52, pimpin4rizeal said:

Not really sure what you mean .. when a kid breaks into the first team and shows potential the hype machine starts just as we have seen with dibling ….dibling hasn’t really contributed assists and only couple of goals .. Sam amo was basically In the  same bracket as dibling a young kid who can beat players with pace and dribbling hes looked great when he did get on the pitch.. you just seem to be taking the fact he didn’t get the chances dibling did as proof that’s he’s not good enough . He certainly looks better then tella and Nathan dyer did at similar age 

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You say that like it'll just happen, as if a player who looked poor against QPR at the bottom of the Championship will do anything at all against PL defences. Jamie White was a promising teenager, thrown into a Championship team, struggled and ended up playing for Totton.

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  On 30/03/2025 at 16:06, Lighthouse said:

You say that like it'll just happen, as if a player who looked poor against QPR at the bottom of the Championship will do anything at all against PL defences. Jamie White was a promising teenager, thrown into a Championship team, struggled and ended up playing for Totton.

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One of MLG's youngsters to watch in our FM2009 squad, as mentioned a day or so back.

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  On 30/03/2025 at 16:17, Holmes_and_Watson said:

One of MLG's youngsters to watch in our FM2009 squad, as mentioned a day or so back.

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When our academy was an absolute mess and I was picking the best of a bad bunch of academy players in a preview... 17 years ago! Plus in any case, he was not rated highly on the game.

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  On 30/03/2025 at 17:26, Matthew Le God said:

When our academy was an absolute mess and I was picking the best of a bad bunch of academy players in a preview... 17 years ago! Plus in any case, he was not rated highly on the game.

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Good news that, in response to Lighthouse mentioning "Jamie White was a promising teenager, thrown into a Championship team, struggled and ended up playing for Totton," you agree that my comment of "one of MLG's youngsters to watch in our FM2009 squad, as mentioned a day or so back," was completely accurate.

Also good news for the protection of our nation, that your Defensiveness Shield is only a single button click away. 🙂

 

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  On 30/03/2025 at 15:59, BarberSaint said:

 

No.

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Well it certainly would have been better for his value then not playing .. you can’t know that for sure ., I remember at the start of the season russ said something about Tyler being more developed physically which I guess was the reason Sam didn’t get the games 

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  On 30/03/2025 at 22:11, pimpin4rizeal said:

Well it certainly would have been better for his value then not playing .. you can’t know that for sure ., I remember at the start of the season russ said something about Tyler being more developed physically which I guess was the reason Sam didn’t get the games 

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Another goal last night starting against nice in 7th (level with Lille in the champions league places and 3 points of second).

Would have been an ideal player to keep for the champ, probably CHDAJU as well. The fact we've loaned him out for free was pretty stupid. The fact there has been no mention of the agreed fee / any sell on clause doesn't bode well either.

I wonder what will happen if we get Rosenior as manager.

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  On 13/04/2025 at 08:21, Saint86 said:

1) The fact we've loaned him out for free was pretty stupid.

2) The fact there has been no mention of the agreed fee / any sell on clause doesn't bode well either.

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Those are not facts

1) Loan fees are standard for these kinds of deals. As would paying his wages. If would be very surprising if Strasbourg weren't paying Saints.

2) The obligation fee was widely discussed in the press at the time he left. It was said to be €10m according to the BBC and others.

Sell on clauses are generally between 10% to 20%.

 

 

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  On 13/04/2025 at 10:54, SaintNewForest said:

Absolutely criminal how we managed him, to be honest. 

I'd have wanted out if my path was blocked by dross like Fraser, Sulemana, Cornet and Diaz as well. 

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Agreed but Fraser and Sulemana play in a different position to SAA so there's no path blocked there. Cornet and Diaz I suppose for periods but not sure starting the season believing two players who had scored goals in the PL before would be a better bet than an 18 year kid is a massive crime. Just like I'm not convinced the kid scoring a couple of goals in March and April in France is proof he'd have been better in the PL prior to January.

Not sure it's quite as simple as being mismanaged or "should have kept him". The lad was set back by our relegation two seasons ago and the signings of Cornet and Diaz and Brooks last year are all result of the club not being able to blood too many youngsters at once because they needed immediate results. The lad is a victim of that and losing a DOF who could oversee recruitment with a long term view. 

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I reckon SAA will be a decent player.

However I wonder if there was an expectation within the club that Jay Robinson will turn out to be the longer term winger option.

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