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[Guest]

The simple fact is though is we aren’t beating Ipswich away.

[east-stand-nic]

5 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

The simple fact is though is we aren’t beating Ipswich away.

Or Leeds, though the way Leicester are going, we may well beat them. Happy to finish 4th and play WBA in 5th. We won't win the play offs anyway, but it might be a bit of a learning curve for next season. Problem is, to be in contention next season we need to ditch this style of play and get a new manager.

[Lighthouse]

12 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

The simple fact is though is we aren’t beating Ipswich away.

A month ago most neutrals would have said Millwall aren’t beating Southampton away. Last night someone said sticking a tenner on Leeds was like printing free money. Whatever the odds are, anything can happen in any given game.

[S-Clarke]

3 hours ago, Saint_Tony said:

If we were to beat Ipswich on Monday, then we will have gained ground on at least 2 of the top 3 over the easter fixtures, albeit maybe only a point. So not sure how today's result completely rules us out of the automatics. It was always the case we'd need to win at the top 3, those games are far more valuable than against the others. I'm sure if we'd have won today and drew at Ipswich it would be seen as a good return. It's very fine margins though; lose on Monday and that's absolutely it. Fairplay to Ipswich though they are relentless. 

When the teams above us drop points we need to maximise how we capitalise, because we're already 10 points away from them and only have 9 games left - so gaining just 1 point is a mega fail. It's going to be near on impossible to get anywhere near the Top 2 now, this is why I hate games in hand because they create this weird limbo/illusion land where people assume we'll win the games in hand etc, then look where we'll be. I've been guilty of being drawn into that. The fact is as of this morning we are 8 points off of 3rd, 9 points off of 2nd, 10 points off of 1st. We have 9 games to go. It's not going to happen. We're finishing 4th.

I've been looking forward to the final 10 games but it honestly feels like it's over before it even begun.

[CB Fry]

2 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

The simple fact is though is we aren’t beating Ipswich away.

Oh we can, it's just that it will make no real difference to our season either way.

[whelk]

Commentator love in for Newcastle as always. Comical praise of their spirit when they got joke of a pen

[OttawaSaint]

Biggest gripes about EPL

3 minutes ago, whelk said:

Commentator love in for Newcastle as always. Comical praise of their spirit when they got joke of a pen

My 2 biggest gripes about EPL:

1) Media fawning

2) VAR - how on earth was that a pen? Phillips is mid way through kicking the ball clear and Gordon puts his foot in the way from behind him and gets kicked. Ridiculous.

[benjii]

Terrible bit of VAR / refereeing there. Never, ever a penalty.

[whelk]

1 minute ago, benjii said:

Terrible bit of VAR / refereeing there. Never, ever a penalty.

Can imagine what reaction to it there will be from Moyes. Got to wonder how we have such shit refereeing when under no pressure of time to arrive at that decision 

[OttawaSaint]

WHU have simply crumbled after that bullshit pen.

[whelk]

8 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

1) Media fawning

Yeah these wankers talk about being an incredible season. Why exactly? Oh wow 3 teams are in it with 10 or so games to go

[OttawaSaint]

Ref booked Gordon, was getting ready to get on with it. WHU player had to remind the dullard it was a second yellow. 

They get paid for this? 

[Whitey Grandad]

12 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

Biggest gripes about EPL

My 2 biggest gripes about EPL:

1) Media fawning

2) VAR - how on earth was that a pen? Phillips is mid way through kicking the ball clear and Gordon puts his foot in the way from behind him and gets kicked. Ridiculous.

 

12 minutes ago, benjii said:

Terrible bit of VAR / refereeing there. Never, ever a penalty.

It’s a foul on the defender. WTF has gone wrong with football at this level?

[obelisk]

Hysterical EPL hype. Makes me feel just a bit better about the possibility of missing out on promotion. You can certainly stick VAR where the sun don't shine.

[S-Clarke]

8 minutes ago, whelk said:

Yeah these wankers talk about being an incredible season. Why exactly? Oh wow 3 teams are in it with 10 or so games to go

One of the worst quality seasons in many years imo. Everton and Forest have both been deducted points, and both will still probably survive without breaking sweat.

[badgerx16]

Why could the ref not, having seen the replay on the screen, make the correct decision ? The VAR is there to assist him, not influence him.

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, badgerx16 said:

Why could the ref not, having seen the replay on the screen, make the correct decision ? The VAR is there to assist him, not influence him.

Always been the case though isn't it, whenever they go to the screen it's a done deal. They've got people rabbiting on in their ears influencing their opinion.

[S-Clarke]

21 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

WHU have simply crumbled after that bullshit pen.

The Kalvin Philips sub killed them. He should never have left his Leeds comfort blanket, no where near good enough for anyone else.

[Whitey Grandad]

All this TV hype is making me vomit. 

[OttawaSaint]

Shearer: Phillips is just kicking it away he can't see Gordon...

Atta boy Alan

...but that's great play by Gordon to do that...

Ugh...Alan...come on!

[OttawaSaint]

And now in the Chelsea game ref gave a penalty and a second yellow for...a total dive by Mudryk.

Edited 30 March, 2024 by OttawaSaint

[Fabrice29]

2 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Why could the ref not, having seen the replay on the screen, make the correct decision ? The VAR is there to assist him, not influence him.

He's literally kicked the player and not the ball ffs  

[The Cat]

Possibly the greatest moment of the season at Hibs today

 

[drd]

54 minutes ago, The Cat said:

Possibly the greatest moment of the season at Hibs today

 

That's like the trailer for next goal wins

 

[whelk]

2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

He's literally kicked the player and not the ball ffs  

New to football?

[Whitey Grandad]

3 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

He's literally kicked the player and not the ball ffs  

 

3 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

He's literally kicked the player and not the ball ffs  

Gordon kicked Phillips?

Indeed he did.

[Guest]

Anthony Gordon is overrated, and a bit of a bellend.

[Fabrice29]

2 hours ago, whelk said:

New to football?

Think anyone on day one of their football experience is probably taught that kicking the ball is good and kicking other people is bad tbf.

[Maggie May]

Poor finishing cost Leicester yesterday. They should’ve smashed Bristol City 6-1.  They will tear us apart.

[Lighthouse]

20 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

Poor finishing cost Leicester yesterday. They should’ve smashed Bristol City 6-1.  They will tear us apart.

I like how you’ve only applied that logic one way.

[Maggie May]

4 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

I like how you’ve only applied that logic one way.

I’m saving this post for after our match. 😎

[OttawaSaint]

Wasn't there a liverpool player offside on Salah's header forward, just before Veltmann played it back? 

The offside rule has mutated into a fucking mess IMO.

[The Kraken]

22 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

Wasn't there a liverpool player offside on Salah's header forward, just before Veltmann played it back? 

The offside rule has mutated into a fucking mess IMO.

If the defender attempts a clearance and makes contact it’s deemed a new phase of play and invalidates the original offside. If the defender doesn’t make contact with the ball then it’s offside. As you say, an absolute mess.

[OttawaSaint]

9 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

If the defender attempts a clearance and makes contact it’s deemed a new phase of play and invalidates the original offside. If the defender doesn’t make contact with the ball then it’s offside. As you say, an absolute mess.

Thanks for clearing that up. It's so messy that it's open to abuse.

I remember us having a goal disallowed one week because of xyz then the next week, same situation but the opponents get awarded the goal.

[The Kraken]

8 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

Thanks for clearing that up. It's so messy that it's open to abuse.

I remember us having a goal disallowed one week because of xyz then the next week, same situation but the opponents get awarded the goal.

Tbf watching it back at half time it looked like Diaz himself was in an onside position when Salah headed it forward. However there were at least two or three Liverpool players in an offside position right in front of the keeper who I’d say were definitely interfering with play even if they didn’t make an attempt to play the ball. The defender touching it though made that irrelevant. Dopey rule.

[aintforever]

Even if the defender missed it he still would have been onside if the other players were not classed as interfering- that’s always been a grey area.

[obelisk]

Wonder if Adams was watching that finish by Mo Salah.

[AlexLaw76]

the time taken to check offside for DIaz was silly. You can see directly on the still he was offside

[SNSUN]

8 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

the time taken to check offside for DIaz was silly. You can see directly on the still he was offside

Yeah but it's Liverpool, they were probably checking each and every single camera angle in the ground to try to find one that shows he was onside so they can give the bestest team an extra goal.

 

 

[OttawaSaint]

Lallana forget to take his slippers off?

[OttawaSaint]

18 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

the time taken to check offside for DIaz was silly. You can see directly on the still he was offside

Yep. Could see the line in the grass. Dunno why they zoomed in on each player too. Odd.

[Challenger]

31 minutes ago, obelisk said:

Wonder if Adams was watching that finish by Mo Salah.

I am afraid he missed it.

 

[Lighthouse]

3 hours ago, Maggie May said:

I’m saving this post for after our match. 😎

You can if you like, it won’t be relevant to the point at hand. You can’t simply say that Leicester will smash us because they failed to convert a shedload of chances, when we’ve done exactly the same on numerous occasions this season. Stick Lambert and Sharp at the top of this team and we’d have put double figures past someone.

[OttawaSaint]

Arsenal and City are playing this really cagey. Not much flair play, a bit of a boring non event really.

[whelk]

1 minute ago, OttawaSaint said:

Arsenal and City are playing this really cagey. Not much flair play, a bit of a boring non event really.

Where else do you get this much excitement? PL has it all

[AlexLaw76]

Liverpool are going to win the league, aren't they

[East Kent Saint]

City 78% possession 1 shot on target !

[OttawaSaint]

10 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said:

City 78% possession 1 shot on target !

They were really poor today. Trouble is, Arsenal were too scared to really go for it. Made for a very boring game.

[S-Clarke]

1 hour ago, OttawaSaint said:

Arsenal and City are playing this really cagey. Not much flair play, a bit of a boring non event really.

That game summed up the PL this year imo - the quality level bar this year is very, very low.

I'm sure we had Sky Sports say ''this is why the PL is the best league in the world' at one point or another though.

[S-Clarke]

Anyone see the stupid Lallana pre-match interview today?

He was on the bench for Brighton, but was talking about how good it was to ''be back home'', it's like 'I've never been away''. ''I'm desperate for Liverpool to win the league'' Brighton fans didn't take too kindly to it, but this is Lallana all over - self indulged and a bit of a wet wally it has to be said.