Dr Who? Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 9 hours ago, Dr Who? said: I do not think Leicester or Ipswich will win today. It really will be down to those 2 away games for me Ipswich and Leicester, then we will see if Leeds away means anything. Think Leeds will win the league and Leicester might hold on to 2nd, but will depend on the form of us and Ipswich. Hats off to Ipswich they do not look like dropping away, even though they did a while back. Playoffs will be fun, but could be heart ache. Still all up for grabs at this stage for sure, but we have made it slightly more hard work with the loses at home to Hull and Millwall. I’ll get back in my tardis and go to the end of the season. 😊- or perhaps I will not! 😦 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Could you imagine this forum if we were doing a Leicester. They were miles clear not too long ago. Lets see how Maresca handles the pressure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, woodsaint1 said: Could you imagine this forum if we were doing a Leicester. They were miles clear not too long ago. Lets see how Maresca handles the pressure We're into the last 10 games now, most important section to be hitting form. Leeds in an excellent position and hopefully we got our wobble out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 4 hours ago, Dr Who? said: I’ll get back in my tardis and go to the end of the season. 😊- or perhaps I will not! 😦 Fair play on that call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 One thing that is noticeable about the times going for promotion is if you put any of them under any form of pressure they panic and capitulate. Look at our form. Ipswich and Leicester are both there for the taking at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 54 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: One thing that is noticeable about the times going for promotion is if you put any of them under any form of pressure they panic and capitulate. Look at our form. Ipswich and Leicester are both there for the taking at the back. Don't you reckon we're just a tiny bit "for the taking at the back", though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 36 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Don't you reckon we're just a tiny bit "for the taking at the back", though? As I said, look at our form defensively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said: As I said, look at our form defensively. Sorry, your post about "capitulating under pressure" and "defensively for the taking" seems to me you are talking about other clubs. We literally have capitulated, and we literally are for the taking defensively. So no idea what point you're making. Ipswich had a freak five minutes yesterday on the back of 6 straight wins. They didn't go two nil down to Bristol or Hull etc etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 The top 2 from last season in the Championship are currently both on half-a-point per game this season. Fucking miserable. Difficult to see any of the current top four being quite that bad next year but it's a warning for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, CB Fry said: The top 2 from last season in the Championship are currently both on half-a-point per game this season. Fucking miserable. Difficult to see any of the current top four being quite that bad next year but it's a warning for sure. I guess the SR thinking is that to avoid that sort of outcome, that we have to do something a bit different. Despite some lovely stuff under Ralph, they will look at the last days of that. So the Man City controlled approach. Mileage on SR's left field thinking may differ per poster 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: I guess the SR thinking is that to avoid that sort of outcome, that we have to do something a bit different. Despite some lovely stuff under Ralph, they will look at the last days of that. So the Man City controlled approach. Mileage on SR's left field thinking may differ per poster 🙂 I think Vincent Kompany is pretty familiar with the Man City philosophy, though. Edited March 10 by CB Fry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 19 hours ago, Saint_clark said: We're into the last 10 games now, most important section to be hitting form. Leeds in an excellent position and hopefully we got our wobble out of the way. I am not convinced about our form. Yes we have a really good side, but we are making very hard work of things for the team we have. For this reason I do think it will be the playoffs for us. Please prove me wrong 🙏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, CB Fry said: The top 2 from last season in the Championship are currently both on half-a-point per game this season. Fucking miserable. Difficult to see any of the current top four being quite that bad next year but it's a warning for sure. I can't quite get over how bad those two are this year, they've not even competed or attempted to stay up. The most pathetic relegations ever. Not sure how either will fair next year in the Championship either, cannot see them being as dominant as Leeds and Leicester this year for a start. I'd expect anyone going up this year to give it much more of a shot. Luton are putting them to shame really, they'll most likely get relegated too - but they're giving it a go and are actually trying to compete. Edited March 10 by S-Clarke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Amazing how Everton haven’t won a league game for three months and still aren’t looking like getting relegated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 13 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Amazing how Everton haven’t won a league game for three months and still aren’t looking like getting relegated. Their rivals’ form isn’t exactly awash with green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, CB Fry said: I think Vincent Kompany is pretty familiar with the Man City philosophy, though. Fair point. I was thinking of SR setting it up under Wilcox, without connecting it to someone who might already be using it. I've not seen much of Burnley this season. Are they really trying to play MartinBall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 All this talk of promoted sides being unable to compete in PL is a bit rum. Although you do need a competent tactically astute manger. i thought Bournemouth, Forest and Fulham could all go straight back down although changed opinion on Fulham after opening game when they outplayed Liverpool. This years crop are shite and Luton should be worst of them but are the only ones making a decent fist of it but more to do with tactical nous of manager than anything else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 11 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Amazing how Everton haven’t won a league game for three months and still aren’t looking like getting relegated. The way things are shaping up, 30 points could be all that is needed to survive! Usually there is an uptick in points as teams roll up to the last chance saloon but both Burnley and Sheffield United are doomed and Luton have had some important players out, not sure if they will be back in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Bournemouth have just taken the lead after being 3-0 down to Luton. Brings back traumatic memories of the last days of Redknapp for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 27 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said: Bournemouth have just taken the lead after being 3-0 down to Luton. Brings back traumatic memories of the last days of Redknapp for me. Or Tranmere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 The Luton story is pretty boring now. they are crap, a little less crap than the other 2 promoted sides, but they can’t go through a season dropping this many pints from positive positions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 On 10/03/2024 at 19:26, whelk said: Their rivals’ form isn’t exactly awash with green What a depressing league to be a part of. I think we should stay down until the top 6 tootle off to their super league... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 52 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: The Luton story is pretty boring now. they are crap, a little less crap than the other 2 promoted sides, but they can’t go through a season dropping this many pints from positive positions. They will go down sober then ! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 On 10/03/2024 at 20:26, whelk said: Their rivals’ form isn’t exactly awash with green Jesus Christ, I actually wish we could win the league, pocket the money then stay in the championship. So much more fun being in this league and actually standing a chance in games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 21 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: Jesus Christ, I actually wish we could win the league, pocket the money then stay in the championship. So much more fun being in this league and actually standing a chance in games You might want to speak to Stoke, Blackburn and Swansea fans about the reality of that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERMUDASAINT Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: The Luton story is pretty boring now. they are crap, a little less crap than the other 2 promoted sides, but they can’t go through a season dropping this many pints from positive positions. Luton Town - £12.2m Back in 2020/21, the Premier League new boys spent precisely zero pounds on transfers and earned exactly nothing in return. Proper old-fashioned Football League stuff by a club that resolutely refuse to move with the times in many respects. The £22.8m spent this season, obviously much less than most clubs, is nevertheless their biggest summer outlay by a country mile. I find Luton approach to Epl very interesting. Very diff from NF huge spend on PL promo. I assume they are saving the Pl monies to strengthen their club finacially. Sensibly realised that you could spend +100 mil and still be relegated from PL. Why not take that PL money and take it back down with you to the the championship. With parachute payments, Luton will have a HUGE cash injection to finacially stabalise ther club and be a force in the transfer market with there new PL $$$$$. They can start buying better young talent and build a stronger team for another promo. I am toying with this idea for SFC. SFC fans are loving the championship, but to stay here we will cause financial ruin and degrdation of talent. But if we get promo to PL and dont buy a buch of expensive players , sell players that are wanted and turn a profit and give it a go with our mainly young raw talent? If we get relegated, we are in a strong financial postition to buy the best young talent and loans to prep for another exciting season fighting for the championship title, heck we might even win one? We are known for our youth academy and have a first rate training grounds. Brought a lot of young talent recently and looking to buy more. We are no longer looking at PL ready players ( +20 mil) to fill out our squad. As we saw last season, a bunch of young raw talent in the PL will not do well. But in the champ they can improve and develope into great assets. So.....could we adopt a PL and Champ relegation/promo stratagy that will allow us to stay finacially strong. Aquire the best young talent and loans to push for champ promo, which is so much fun compared to trying to stay in PL and trying to avoid relgation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, BERMUDASAINT said: Luton Town - £12.2m Back in 2020/21, the Premier League new boys spent precisely zero pounds on transfers and earned exactly nothing in return. Proper old-fashioned Football League stuff by a club that resolutely refuse to move with the times in many respects. The £22.8m spent this season, obviously much less than most clubs, is nevertheless their biggest summer outlay by a country mile. I find Luton approach to Epl very interesting. Very diff from NF huge spend on PL promo. I assume they are saving the Pl monies to strengthen their club finacially. Sensibly realised that you could spend +100 mil and still be relegated from PL. Why not take that PL money and take it back down with you to the the championship. With parachute payments, Luton will have a HUGE cash injection to finacially stabalise ther club and be a force in the transfer market with there new PL $$$$$. They can start buying better young talent and build a stronger team for another promo. I am toying with this idea for SFC. SFC fans are loving the championship, but to stay here we will cause financial ruin and degrdation of talent. But if we get promo to PL and dont buy a buch of expensive players , sell players that are wanted and turn a profit and give it a go with our mainly young raw talent? If we get relegated, we are in a strong financial postition to buy the best young talent and loans to prep for another exciting season fighting for the championship title, heck we might even win one? We are known for our youth academy and have a first rate training grounds. Brought a lot of young talent recently and looking to buy more. We are no longer looking at PL ready players ( +20 mil) to fill out our squad. As we saw last season, a bunch of young raw talent in the PL will not do well. But in the champ they can improve and develope into great assets. So.....could we adopt a PL and Champ relegation/promo stratagy that will allow us to stay finacially strong. Aquire the best young talent and loans to push for champ promo, which is so much fun compared to trying to stay in PL and trying to avoid relgation. If the new EFL financial agreement does away with parachute payments the yo-yo philosophy loses it's appeal somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 On 09/03/2024 at 22:04, woodsaint1 said: Could you imagine this forum if we were doing a Leicester. They were miles clear not too long ago. Lets see how Maresca handles the pressure We did in 1948/49 season, miles clear of everyone then screwed up with about 8 matches to go. Failed to get promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Meltdown in The Pink 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 How on Earth does Jordan Henderson still get picked for England....? #rhetoricalquestion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Does make me smile that southgate was happy picking a player because he was a Man City unplayable reserve. Now playing out playing, albeit badly, it’s I can’t pick him. Only loyal to big clubs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 8 hours ago, Lighthouse said: You might want to speak to Stoke, Blackburn and Swansea fans about the reality of that. Yep - this is exactly it. I understand fans saying let's stay here, as it's a fun season, but it won't always be fun if we get stuck down here. We had to endure that miserable season under Wotte/Port. Much better to be at the top table taking in the cash than it is to be lingering around in the lower leagues, without the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 13 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: The Luton story is pretty boring now. they are crap, a little less crap than the other 2 promoted sides, but they can’t go through a season dropping this many pints from positive positions. The 3 promoted sides this year are just too weak, I reckon we'd have stayed up if they were in the league last year. Leeds and Leicester too. Burnley have had the interesting approach of doing just what we did - buying a load of highly rated young players from Europe, notably spending £15m on a young keeper from Man City - and they're having the same problems as we did, lack of experience and too soon for some of the young players they bought. Sheffield United went about it all wrong - they sold their best players to start with, and it was curtains at that point. They wouldn't even be in the promotion picture in the Championship with the squad they have this year. Terrible management. Luton haven't really evolved, still playing the plucky card with the same limited players who got them through the leagues. Quality wise they are no where near, but it's their spirit and togetherness which has made them somewhat more competitive than the others. They'll ultimately still go down though. So..if we do fail to go up, Burnley are the only side I think could get their shit together and have a decent year next season. The other two will just be also-rans at best, there won't be 2 or 3 runaways next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Couldn’t agree more with the above. Very accurate assessments of the promoted teams. If Leicester and Leeds go up then they’re a massive pull immediately for any potential player, they’ll be absolutely fine if they’re in the Premier League next season. Their pull would allow them to bring in better players. Ipswich I don’t think have that same pull, it would be very much on par with Stoke, Luton, Bournemouth etc - plucky. I think we’d have a certain pull but not as much as the first two. Essentially you have the top half of teams and then you have the bottom half of the table which is an absolute free for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 7 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: We did in 1948/49 season, miles clear of everyone then screwed up with about 8 matches to go. Failed to get promotion. I bet this forum was a nightmare when that happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 16 hours ago, Saint_clark said: I bet this forum was a nightmare when that happened. I heard about AndersonShelterSaint ... pain in the backside, couldn't ever be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 14/03/2024 at 12:23, Charlie Wayman said: We did in 1948/49 season, miles clear of everyone then screwed up with about 8 matches to go. Failed to get promotion. If only Mr Wayman hadn't suffered that injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 On 14/03/2024 at 19:36, FarehamSaintJames said: Couldn’t agree more with the above. Very accurate assessments of the promoted teams. If Leicester and Leeds go up then they’re a massive pull immediately for any potential player, they’ll be absolutely fine if they’re in the Premier League next season. Their pull would allow them to bring in better players. Ipswich I don’t think have that same pull, it would be very much on par with Stoke, Luton, Bournemouth etc - plucky. I think we’d have a certain pull but not as much as the first two. Essentially you have the top half of teams and then you have the bottom half of the table which is an absolute free for all. Leeds are a massive club but not the pull they should be. Last time they got promoted they had Bielsa in charge but still weren’t able to attract all these players you think they’ll get. They only stayed up for 3 seasons too and despite the narrative pushed out that “watching Leeds is mad anything can happen” they ended up getting quite a few thrashings. Daniel Farke ls good at getting teams promoted but not very good at keeping them there. I’d be very surprised if they weren’t in a relegation battle if they go up. Most teams usually are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 “Saints with comeback win to beat Leeds and go joint top “ Interesting BBC Sport headline today , Rugby League unfortunately 😄 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 On 14/03/2024 at 19:21, S-Clarke said: The 3 promoted sides this year are just too weak, I reckon we'd have stayed up if they were in the league last year. Leeds and Leicester too. Burnley have had the interesting approach of doing just what we did - buying a load of highly rated young players from Europe, notably spending £15m on a young keeper from Man City - and they're having the same problems as we did, lack of experience and too soon for some of the young players they bought. Sheffield United went about it all wrong - they sold their best players to start with, and it was curtains at that point. They wouldn't even be in the promotion picture in the Championship with the squad they have this year. Terrible management. Luton haven't really evolved, still playing the plucky card with the same limited players who got them through the leagues. Quality wise they are no where near, but it's their spirit and togetherness which has made them somewhat more competitive than the others. They'll ultimately still go down though. So..if we do fail to go up, Burnley are the only side I think could get their shit together and have a decent year next season. The other two will just be also-rans at best, there won't be 2 or 3 runaways next season. The Championship will be weaker at the top end next year and Saints could very well win it. We'd probably also have a better chance of staying up then. If we scrape into the third spot via the playoffs this year, we'll probably come straight back down again and miss that window of opportunity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I haven't seen a comment about this so far, though it may be in one of the threads. It's 0-0 with Wolves and Coventry at the moment. If Coventry get through, could there be a chance that the play-offs will have to be delayed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 6 minutes ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said: I haven't seen a comment about this so far, though it may be in one of the threads. It's 0-0 with Wolves and Coventry at the moment. If Coventry get through, could there be a chance that the play-offs will have to be delayed? For the semis they'd have to play Thurs (Champ L2) /Sunday (FAC) for the two semis. Europa teams have to do that loads of times. It's more of an issue if one of the play off finalists gets to the FA Cup final. But it won't happen. Edited March 16 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Fucking hell! How many times does VAR have to replay this before making a decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 VAR FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Cracking effort from Cov, this. Lemina having one of his can't-be-arsed days in midfield is probably helping, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 That's got to be a red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Was pretty much inventible once Cov missed their chances, that there is the difference between a PL side and a lower league side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2-2 now, fair play to them - they won't lay down! They should be way out of sight though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Lemina is a total liability. Didn’t get a free kick and hardly trotted back with his defence under pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Wow. Well done Cov. Fully deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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