Warriorsaint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 A little video for Hypo. Lets replace the word facilities with barge and see how the language matters hypo. https://x.com/supertanskiii/status/1691111563590008832?s=46&t=sHH85X8TkV41x3qYO-bdug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 2 hours ago, Warriorsaint said: It one really works when the rest of the circus freaks join you. Too right. It one(sic) really works then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Too right. It one(sic) really works then The gotchas keep coming don’t they you loon! Having to scroll through posts to find spelling mistakes to distract from your woeful takes. Only respond to what you think gives you a win. Its a dimwitted approach and one only imagines Western having a mare giggling like a schoolgirl. Look guys he can’t spell only, and then whats the followup gut punch? “Look guys he can’t spell car” giggle giggle. Come on you dimwit, try harder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 8 minutes ago, Warriorsaint said: The gotchas keep coming don’t they you loon! Having to scroll through posts to find spelling mistakes to distract from your woeful takes. Only respond to what you think gives you a win. Its a dimwitted approach and one only imagines Western having a mare giggling like a schoolgirl. Look guys he can’t spell only, and then whats the followup gut punch? “Look guys he can’t spell car” giggle giggle. Come on you dimwit, try harder. Learn to spell you think cunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 Just now, whelk said: Learn to spell you think cunt Christ I didn’t realise you all had such a interest in education. I understand back in your day you would get your knuckles rapped fir bad spelling. It doesn’t happen anymore grandad so you can put these nightmares to bed. No-one will come after you for bad spelling. My old liberal English teacher always told me spelling was for the idiots, thoughts and knowledge imparted and displayed were more important as a guide for intelligence. Im glad to say Winkle and having a mare are consummate spellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorsaint said: Christ I didn’t realise you all had such a interest in education. I understand back in your day you would get your knuckles rapped fir bad spelling. It doesn’t happen anymore grandad so you can put these nightmares to bed. No-one will come after you for bad spelling. My old liberal English teacher always told me spelling was for the idiots, thoughts and knowledge imparted and displayed were more important as a guide for intelligence. Im glad to say Winkle and having a mare are consummate spellers. Ahh little lonely boy now boasting about being young and shit at spelling. Bless Maybe that teacher you loved so much is the cause of your neurosis? Did he give you special love back that really confused you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 1 minute ago, whelk said: Ahh little lonely boy now boasting about being young and shit at spelling. Bless Maybe that teacher you loved so much is the cause of your neurosis? Did he give you special love back that really confused you? Ah, there it is. The weak bully looking for vulnerability. You won’t find it here you preening narcissist. Maybe you have a nice car, play golf and have a paunch beginning to show but I somehow doubt it. Likely more a very frustrated old man with high blood pressure with an abused ex wife? Perhaps you like a drink or two? Maybe you have children who no longer visit due to your failings as a father. See how easy it is to fabricate nonsense or maybe I hit close to home. Your attempts at some amateur Freud is embarrassing for you. Keep going I can play for a while longer. Try getting your spelling club pals together and I’ll set a test. I’ll give you ten words you can all spell and I bet you’ll get 10/10. I’ll give you all gold stars. You’ll remember those won’t you or has dementia set in yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warriorsaint said: Ah, there it is. The weak bully looking for vulnerability. You won’t find it here you preening narcissist. Maybe you have a nice car, play golf and have a paunch beginning to show but I somehow doubt it. Likely more a very frustrated old man with high blood pressure with an abused ex wife? Perhaps you like a drink or two? Maybe you have children who no longer visit due to your failings as a father. See how easy it is to fabricate nonsense or maybe I hit close to home. Your attempts at some amateur Freud is embarrassing for you. Keep going I can play for a while longer. Try getting your spelling club pals together and I’ll set a test. I’ll give you ten words you can all spell and I bet you’ll get 10/10. I’ll give you all gold stars. You’ll remember those won’t you or has dementia set in yet? So good at reading people aren’t you? Something I can’t help notice is you keep referring to is pals and gangs. Clearly some acceptance issues at play that you are so keen to take swipes at everyone on here and group them together. And not perceptive enough to get a read on people just a desire to mock their lives, well not their lives more pictures you have concocted in your troubled head. I suspect you despise most people as you want to paint their lives as frustrated and unfulfilled. Not like yours and your laughable boast of your lovely cheap package tour to Turkey. Strange little person really and been some weirdos on here but rarely as odious as you. Part of me thinks I should be more respectful to someone who clearly has a lot of issues at play and hurting. Although I rarely resist standing up to a bully. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 Guys, this isn't Grindrr. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 14 August, 2023 Share Posted 14 August, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, whelk said: So good at reading people aren’t you? Something I can’t help notice is you keep referring to is pals and gangs. Clearly some acceptance issues at play that you are so keen to take swipes at everyone on here and group them together. And not perceptive enough to get a read on people just a desire to mock their lives, well not their lives more pictures you have concocted in your troubled head. I suspect you despise most people as you want to paint their lives as frustrated and unfulfilled. Not like yours and your laughable boast of your lovely cheap package tour to Turkey. Strange little person really and been some weirdos on here but rarely as odious as you. Part of me thinks I should be more respectful to someone who clearly has a lot of issues at play and hurting. Although I rarely resist standing up to a bully. Touched a nerve eh? The bully doesn’t like being bullied. Did I spell that well enough for you? I call out odious views of which you have many. Come, now don’t be shy. I merely return your oh so subtle barbs but it stings you doesn’t it? No need to be respectful though, why start now? It doesn’t suit you. If you can’t handle a bit of back and forth don’t engage. Just walk off the field if the red mist will let you Mr Freud. Goodnight sweetheart 😘 Edited 14 August, 2023 by Warriorsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 Nowadays "far right" generally means "far right of me", hence why the most vocal of the generally centrist policies of the current government are Corbyn / momentum people. They throw the word "Fascist" as well as other insults about as they don't have any general coherent argument left. anyway.... heres when the Bibby Stockholm was described as a "Floatel", Last ‘floatel’ leaves Lerwick Harbour | The Shetland Times Ltd 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 9 hours ago, Warriorsaint said: Touched a nerve eh? The bully doesn’t like being bullied. Did I spell that well enough for you? I call out odious views of which you have many. Come, now don’t be shy. I merely return your oh so subtle barbs but it stings you doesn’t it? No need to be respectful though, why start now? It doesn’t suit you. If you can’t handle a bit of back and forth don’t engage. Just walk off the field if the red mist will let you Mr Freud. Goodnight sweetheart 😘 I fear you are becoming a little attached to me but for my part it has become tiresome. And no doubt boring for others. Remember to tell your therapist how cathartic your experience has been on Saintsweb. You took on the nasty bullies and scared them off with your ramblings. . Although notice you never actually voice a view on anything rather just wail and gnash your teeth howling at others. Good luck in trying to find some joy in life to temper the seething anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 26 minutes ago, whelk said: I fear you are becoming a little attached to me but for my part it has become tiresome. And no doubt boring for others. Remember to tell your therapist how cathartic your experience has been on Saintsweb. You took on the nasty bullies and scared them off with your ramblings. . Although notice you never actually voice a view on anything rather just wail and gnash your teeth howling at others. Good luck in trying to find some joy in life to temper the seething anger. Catch you later alligator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 2 hours ago, Nolan said: Nowadays "far right" generally means "far right of me", hence why the most vocal of the generally centrist policies of the current government are Corbyn / momentum people. They throw the word "Fascist" as well as other insults about as they don't have any general coherent argument left. anyway.... heres when the Bibby Stockholm was described as a "Floatel", Last ‘floatel’ leaves Lerwick Harbour | The Shetland Times Ltd Duh. Havent really thought it through Nolan, qu'elle surprise. And if you're far right then the current right wing Government seem centrist and the large majority of the voters, based on voting intention are 'Corbyn / Momentum people' 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 17 hours ago, Warriorsaint said: Christ I didn’t realise you all had such a interest in education. I understand back in your day you would get your knuckles rapped fir bad spelling. It doesn’t happen anymore grandad so you can put these nightmares to bed. No-one will come after you for bad spelling. My old liberal English teacher always told me spelling was for the idiots, thoughts and knowledge imparted and displayed were more important as a guide for intelligence. Im glad to say Winkle and having a mare are consummate spellers. I wonder who would be the best placed person to clarify something like this, probably someone who teaches GCSE English to 14 year olds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 5 hours ago, buctootim said: Duh. Havent really thought it through Nolan, qu'elle surprise. And if you're far right then the current right wing Government seem centrist and the large majority of the voters, based on voting intention are 'Corbyn / Momentum people' See its this drifting to the right that gradually the fascists language becomes more acceptable/mainstream. Some of the people commenting on refugees would have gladly worked at Belsen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Nolan said: Nowadays "far right" generally means "far right of me", hence why the most vocal of the generally centrist policies of the current government are Corbyn / momentum people. They throw the word "Fascist" as well as other insults about as they don't have any general coherent argument left. anyway.... heres when the Bibby Stockholm was described as a "Floatel", Last ‘floatel’ leaves Lerwick Harbour | The Shetland Times Ltd Our current government are centrists this really is a post for the ages! Either you are standing so far to the right that you polish your jack boots nightly or you are deluded (maybe both) any government that has Suella Braverman in one of it’s most senior posts will never ever be centrist as centrists could never tolerate her extreme right wing views! She is just one example I could list countless others who hold or have held senior government posts. If you look at the rhetoric and policy coming out of the current shambles and see centrist you need to seriously re calibrate your world views. Edited 15 August, 2023 by a1ex2001 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 Yep, centre ground, hence why Starmer has dropped his party election momentum / Corbynite pledges for the centre ground and there's barely a fag-paper for some policy Labour are shifting to and the Conservatives already have. Because it's centrist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Warriorsaint said: Some of the people commenting on refugees would have gladly worked at Belsen. Where has anybody called for killing the boat people ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 51 minutes ago, Nolan said: Yep, centre ground, hence why Starmer has dropped his party election momentum / Corbynite pledges for the centre ground and there's barely a fag-paper for some policy Labour are shifting to and the Conservatives already have. Because it's centrist. The "centre ground" is where marginal seats are won. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Nolan said: Yep, centre ground, hence why Starmer has dropped his party election momentum / Corbynite pledges for the centre ground and there's barely a fag-paper for some policy Labour are shifting to and the Conservatives already have. Because it's centrist. Makes sense, there is still a bit of a hangover from the Corbyn era but Starmer is slowly turning things round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, badgerx16 said: Where has anybody called for killing the boat people ? All over Social media, serves me right for looking at TikTok but the comments for so many of the videos dealing with the drownings beggar belief. Peoples humanity has gone. Didn’t refer to Saintsweb. Thats not what I was talking about Edited 15 August, 2023 by Warriorsaint 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 4 hours ago, aintforever said: Makes sense, there is still a bit of a hangover from the Corbyn era but Starmer is slowly turning things round. Oh great,what a choice. A fag paper's difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Warriorsaint said: All over Social media, serves me right for looking at TikTok but the comments for so many of the videos dealing with the drownings beggar belief. Peoples humanity has gone. Didn’t refer to Saintsweb. Thats not what I was talking about Are these people even talking about the Channel rather than the Mediterranean ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 15 August, 2023 Share Posted 15 August, 2023 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: Are these people even talking about the Channel rather than the Mediterranean ? The channel drownings. The comments are very difficult to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, Nolan said: Yep, centre ground, hence why Starmer has dropped his party election momentum / Corbynite pledges for the centre ground and there's barely a fag-paper for some policy Labour are shifting to and the Conservatives already have. Because it's centrist. Centrist, or financially the most right wing government in the developed world you decide? That’s ignoring the litany of other right wing policies as well. If the government goes far enough right the centre lands up in a ridiculous place which leaves us with Labours worrying lurch in the same direction. https://twitter.com/RichardJMurphy/status/1575766938411831297?s=20 Edited 16 August, 2023 by a1ex2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, a1ex2001 said: Centrist, or financially the most right wing government in the developed world you decide? That’s ignoring the litany of other right wing policies as well. If the government goes far enough right the centre lands up in a ridiculous place which leaves us with Labours worrying lurch in the same direction. https://twitter.com/RichardJMurphy/status/1575766938411831297?s=20 Behave yourself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, a1ex2001 said: Centrist, or financially the most right wing government in the developed world you decide? That’s ignoring the litany of other right wing policies as well. If the government goes far enough right the centre lands up in a ridiculous place which leaves us with Labours worrying lurch in the same direction. https://twitter.com/RichardJMurphy/status/1575766938411831297?s=20 Thanks for sharing that. It was pretty hilarious in September last year when it was put out. Its even more so now. but Matt Kilcoyne said it best at the time. Edited 16 August, 2023 by Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 12 hours ago, Jonnyboy said: Oh great,what a choice. A fag paper's difference. Starmer is doing what he needs to do to get Labour elected i.e. not frightening the horses (Middle England). He can’t change anything, and a great deal needs changing,without getting elected, so he has one job and this is the way to get it done. I don’t agree that there is little difference between the parties. The Tories have run out of ideas and are either pinching Labour policies or are just fudging decisions but they are still looking to appeal to populist policies that will limit damage at the next election. Labour’s intent is to govern for the majority rather than the privileged few. They won’t be able to change things overnight but there are clear differences in what they are looking to achieve and it is going to take longer than 5 years to turn this mess around. Of course this current Tory Party is the most right focussed for decades. The only ones who can’t see that are the ones who want it to go further right. Whatever One Nation Conservatism was, this is a long way from that. The Culture Wars, stirring up hate towards foreigners, “Lefty” lawyers, High Court Judges (enemies of the people), blobs, civil servants, using mainstream media outlets to spread their warped propaganda, outright lies repeated ad infinitum until they become “true”, outright cronism are all things out of the fascist playbook agenda of yesteryear. Even Theresa May, as PM, warned that they were in danger of becoming the “Nasty Party” (Churchill used to refer to Nazis as Nasties). They are well and truly nasty now. It’s although they have been reading Orwell for tips in how to govern. In Sunak we now have a PM who implores us to trust him and likes to pretend that he is a decent, caring human being, yet he is happy to let his attack dogs off the leash at every opportunity (Braverman, Anderson, Jenrick etc etc etc) to do his dirty work for him. It stinks and it has to end. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Behave yourself Not my analysis it’s the FT you are disagreeing with thought it made a nice change from discussing the governments hard right position on immigration to look at something else they are hard right on, we could always throw in the banning of peaceful protest if you want another classic hard right feature or the continuing use of ‘othering’ to dodge the blame for being utterly incompetent. You keep pretending they are centrists if it makes you feel better but they are demonstrably not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 This is the kind of rhetoric we get now. Please tell me these people are not ghouls! https://x.com/fascinatorfun/status/1691829949366178236?s=46&t=sHH85X8TkV41x3qYO-bdug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 14 minutes ago, Warriorsaint said: This is the kind of rhetoric we get now. Please tell me these people are not ghouls! https://x.com/fascinatorfun/status/1691829949366178236?s=46&t=sHH85X8TkV41x3qYO-bdug You should lay off twitter. It just seems to upset you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 22 minutes ago, Warriorsaint said: This is the kind of rhetoric we get now. Please tell me these people are not ghouls! https://x.com/fascinatorfun/status/1691829949366178236?s=46&t=sHH85X8TkV41x3qYO-bdug That's one man's opinion. People had shit opinions before twitter. I don't read nonsense like that as I don't look for it...that stuff is avoidable if you don't go looking for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 It is interesting to note how some people try and play down extremes in politics or agendas. Pretending that the current government and many of the senior members of the cabinet is a prime example. Label something as Far Right or even Fascist in nature is often triggering to these people. I guess it is in the same way that Racists hate to be called racists. Granted, the term Fascist is used in a pejorative way these days so no surprise those labelled as one get upset. However, having looked for a decent example of what constitutes a Fascist, and it is easier to find a post from Duckhunter without several expletives in it than a description of Fascism that doesn’t go on about Hitler, Mussolini and Jack Boots, I have found the following that do the trick. ”Fascism is an ultranationalist, authoritarian, political philosophy. It combines elements of nationalism, militarism, economic self sufficiency and totalitarianism. It opposes communism, socialism, pluralism, individual rights and equality and democratic government.” ”Fascists are sexist, anti-liberal, anti socialist and anti-communist. They believe in extreme authoritarianism, the supremacy of one race or nation over others, the persecution of minorities and dissidents.” 14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism 1. Powerful and continuing nationalism 2.Disregard for Human Rights 3.Identification of enemies as a unifying cause 4.Supremacy of the military 5.Widespread sexism 6.Controlled mass media 7.Obsession with national security 8.Religion and government intertwined 9.Corporate power is protected 10.Labour power is suppressed 11.Disrespect for intellectuals and The Arts 12.Obsession with crime and punishment 13.Rampant cronyism and corruption 14.Fraudulent elections Given the number of boxes ticked here I would say there was a fag paper between the current Tory government and fascism (and less than that between fag paper and some of the posters here). 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 18 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: It is interesting to note how some people try and play down extremes in politics or agendas. Pretending that the current government and many of the senior members of the cabinet is a prime example. Label something as Far Right or even Fascist in nature is often triggering to these people. I guess it is in the same way that Racists hate to be called racists. Granted, the term Fascist is used in a pejorative way these days so no surprise those labelled as one get upset. However, having looked for a decent example of what constitutes a Fascist, and it is easier to find a post from Duckhunter without several expletives in it than a description of Fascism that doesn’t go on about Hitler, Mussolini and Jack Boots, I have found the following that do the trick. ”Fascism is an ultranationalist, authoritarian, political philosophy. It combines elements of nationalism, militarism, economic self sufficiency and totalitarianism. It opposes communism, socialism, pluralism, individual rights and equality and democratic government.” ”Fascists are sexist, anti-liberal, anti socialist and anti-communist. They believe in extreme authoritarianism, the supremacy of one race or nation over others, the persecution of minorities and dissidents.” 14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism 1. Powerful and continuing nationalism 2.Disregard for Human Rights 3.Identification of enemies as a unifying cause 4.Supremacy of the military 5.Widespread sexism 6.Controlled mass media 7.Obsession with national security 8.Religion and government intertwined 9.Corporate power is protected 10.Labour power is suppressed 11.Disrespect for intellectuals and The Arts 12.Obsession with crime and punishment 13.Rampant cronyism and corruption 14.Fraudulent elections Given the number of boxes ticked here I would say there was a fag paper between the current Tory government and fascism (and less than that between fag paper and some of the posters here). Stop being so silly. You see these people everywhere and seem to be getting more obsessed. And no, I do not like Braverman or that obnoxious cunt Lee Anderson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 This thread is meant to be about GB news. Suggest the birds have their own fans forum on the chicks thread & the mods chuck you into the “chorus “ , yet they allow Soggy to pollute this thread with his irrelevant pony…About as consistent as Selles team selections. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 14 minutes ago, whelk said: Stop being so silly. You see these people everywhere and seem to be getting more obsessed. And no, I do not like Braverman or that obnoxious cunt Lee Anderson I think he makes a very salient point. You’d do well to read the post and evolve your thinking. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 14 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: This thread is meant to be about GB news. Suggest the birds have their own fans forum on the chicks thread & the mods chuck you into the “chorus “ , yet they allow Soggy to pollute this thread with his irrelevant pony…About as consistent as Selles team selections. Hi Sir cockswallower. Go and find a stable to fiddle your ponies if you don’t like debate. Sort of proves SOG’s point doesn’t it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 23 minutes ago, Warriorsaint said: I think he makes a very salient point. You’d do well to read the post and evolve your thinking. Yeah evolve to believe nonsense- ‘fag paper’ between a democratically elected govt and a fascist regime? Really? I have seen SOG evolve from someone with normal left leaning views to seeing far right everywhere and labelling many posters the same who are nothing of sort. You can be a Tory bastard without being a fascist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, whelk said: Yeah evolve to believe nonsense- ‘fag paper’ between a democratically elected govt and a fascist regime? Really? I have seen SOG evolve from someone with normal left leaning views to seeing far right everywhere and labelling many posters the same who are nothing of sort. You can be a Tory bastard without being a fascist. Thats a fair point but when you see the rhetoric of the country shifting right its fair to call it out in the very same way some posters are convinced we are being invaded by woke drag queens hell bent on turfing out pensioners and replacing them with migrants. PS would you agree the Nazis were democratically elected? Edited 16 August, 2023 by Warriorsaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 August, 2023 Share Posted 16 August, 2023 2 hours ago, Warriorsaint said: Thats a fair point but when you see the rhetoric of the country shifting right its fair to call it out in the very same way some posters are convinced we are being invaded by woke drag queens hell bent on turfing out pensioners and replacing them with migrants. PS would you agree the Nazis were democratically elected? We should never be complacent and the proroguing of Parliament was a sign of what some of these dangerous people will do unchecked. As for Trump he is not far off but these are corrupt bastards desperate for power more than ideologues trying to shape sinister agendas. They are not fascists but some are happy to fuel the hate with their rhetoric along those lines. I think they use immigration as smokescreen to scapegoat and know how so many get easily riled, more than having hatred of them. The populist playbook. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 17 August, 2023 Share Posted 17 August, 2023 16 hours ago, whelk said: Yeah evolve to believe nonsense- ‘fag paper’ between a democratically elected govt and a fascist regime? Really? I have seen SOG evolve from someone with normal left leaning views to seeing far right everywhere and labelling many posters the same who are nothing of sort. You can be a Tory bastard without being a fascist. As pointed out, fascist governments have been democratically elected before and will be again, but, with respect Whelk, you are missing my point. As with Gary Lineker’s Twitter pile on when he posted that the language being used is similar to that used in 1930’s Germany. He was accused of calling people NAZIs or fascists when he did nothing of the sort. It served its purpose in deflecting from his original point though. I have not called anyone either of those things. If you look at the definition of fascist/fascism and do a tick box exercise though you can see quite clearly that certain people are much closer to that side of the spectrum than centre right. Much closer. Yes you can be a Tory bastard without being a facist. My point is that although they might not be fully paid up members of a fascist group, they are not that far away in their agendas in terms of how we define a fascist mentality. I don’t see the far right everywhere. I see it where it is. GB News. The Daily Mail, Express and Telegraph. Social commentators such as Katie Hopkins. In politics the likes of Braverman, Patel, Anderson. You have been reading Lord Duckhunter’s posts as long as I have. Surly given the number of boxes his opinions tick you can see that he is planted firmly in far right politics? Batman too. There is nothing centrist or remotely liberal about their opinions and attitudes. If you listen to people from minority groups on radio phone in programmes the number that say that abuse against them has risen since the referendum is notable. There view is that the vote has emboldened people with these views and more and more are voicing their opinions when they wouldn’t have done so much before. There are a couple of posters here who like to believe that it is just me and I make this stuff up. I wish it was just fantasy, but it isn’t if you listen to the people directly affected by these kinds of attitudes. I see the far right in the USA because you see the news reports on a regular basis where Trump supporters quite happily repeat his far right rhetoric. A far right party was elected in Italy. The far right are growing in popularity in France and other European countries. They might not be fascists, but they are far closer to that ideology than they are to centre right politics. Why is it a concern? Because we have senior politician here now openly saying to migrants “fuck of back to France” and likening their arrival on these shores to an “invasion”. As Lineker quite rightly said, similar to the language used in Germany in the 1930’s. And it is being used here now with impunity by democratically elected politicians. If someone posts something that ticks a box in the far right agenda or they post something supporting those with far right views and far right agendas, what is wrong with saying something about it? God knows Corbyn and his supporters took enough flak for their left wing views. Why should the far right be free from scrutiny? Especially since their xenophobia and nationalism drove us to the disaster that was Brexit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 August, 2023 Share Posted 17 August, 2023 Seeing you are a bit of a racist and an anti-semite, where do you sit on your whacky scale of politics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 17 August, 2023 Share Posted 17 August, 2023 18 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Seeing you are a bit of a racist and an anti-semite, where do you sit on your whacky scale of politics? I couldn’t be arsed to read through his word salad of pony, what’s he claiming now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 August, 2023 Share Posted 17 August, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I couldn’t be arsed to read through his word salad of pony, what’s he claiming now? Just the usual. The "far right" is everywhere and needs calling out. Poor old Jeremy Corbyn took all the flak from the goose-stepping society we live in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 19 August, 2023 Share Posted 19 August, 2023 On 17/08/2023 at 13:25, AlexLaw76 said: Just the usual. The "far right" is everywhere and needs calling out. Poor old Jeremy Corbyn took all the flak from the goose-stepping society we live in. You really think Corbyn wasn't monstered on a daily basis by the MSM? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 21 August, 2023 Share Posted 21 August, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2023 Share Posted 21 August, 2023 On 19/08/2023 at 12:43, Jonnyboy said: You really think Corbyn wasn't monstered on a daily basis by the MSM? Come on comrade. One more push and the revolution will be realised. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 21 August, 2023 Share Posted 21 August, 2023 On 17/08/2023 at 13:19, Lord Duckhunter said: I couldn’t be arsed to read through his word salad of pony, what’s he claiming now? After your 10 pints of special brew and ham toastie Id be surprised you could read anything bar the racing post. You likes ponies a bit too much for my liking. You need to stay away from the new forest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 22 August, 2023 Share Posted 22 August, 2023 On 17/08/2023 at 13:19, Lord Duckhunter said: I couldn’t be arsed to read through his word salad of pony, what’s he claiming now? That's a pity as it may have given you food for thought. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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