Gavin Bazunu

[ChristopheVAFC]

I wish Gavin a speedy recovery, and there's no doubt that the substitute goalkeepers in your team will be working hard to get the best out of him at the end of the season!

[Saint86]

20 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

It’s pretty funny how so many people get upset with those happy by this news 

it’s not like we are wishing pain on bazunu .: it’s just it means that he now can’t be selected and he was a regular liability..

im pretty damn confident our goals against are gonna  be far better now .. feel free to requote  this  post if I’m wrong

I mean, we had posters who were blaming him for the watford goals and who are utterly oblivious to how good his distribution is and how important it is to our play. Anyone who thinks its a good thing going into 3 must win games (and likely play offs) without our first choice (and frankly only keeper that suits our style of play) is absolutely deluded in my opinion - this weakens the team unquestionably.

We are going to go into must win games at Leicester and Leeds, as well as play off knock out matches with either Macca or Lumley. The former is a liability with the ball at his feet and anything at his near post, the latter is just a poor keeper although at least he can do the sweeper role to a degree. The only silver lining i can see is that it might actually introduce some concentration in our defence who seem to constantly switch off for fatal 5-10min periods in games... If it puts an end to the casual play consistently evidenced by our defenders (which is frankly the overwhelming reason we concede goals) maybe we'll get away with it...

[Lord Duckhunter]

Tough injury to take, especially for a keeper. Fingers crossed we don’t rush him back too soon, you just can’t rush these things. Proper recovery time is needed before he thinks of pulling on a saints shirt again. About 4 or 5 years should do it. 

[Osvaldorama]

1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

I don’t think Bazunu will have a good career.  

He’s already had an amazing one. Most keepers with his ability would be playing down the local park on a Saturday / Sunday, not premier league / championship 

[saintant]

It's going to be a real tough, long haul for the lad and I wish him well in this difficult time.

[bpsaint]

Sucks for Baz but I’m sure he’ll recover. The plus side for us is that we’ll need to bring in, hopefully, a decent replacement.

[The Curse of St Mary's]

11 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

I mean, we had posters who were blaming him for the watford goals and who are utterly oblivious to how good his distribution is and how important it is to our play. Anyone who thinks its a good thing going into 3 must win games (and likely play offs) without our first choice (and frankly only keeper that suits our style of play) is absolutely deluded in my opinion - this weakens the team unquestionably.

We are going to go into must win games at Leicester and Leeds, as well as play off knock out matches with either Macca or Lumley. The former is a liability with the ball at his feet and anything at his near post, the latter is just a poor keeper although at least he can do the sweeper role to a degree. The only silver lining i can see is that it might actually introduce some concentration in our defence who seem to constantly switch off for fatal 5-10min periods in games... If it puts an end to the casual play consistently evidenced by our defenders (which is frankly the overwhelming reason we concede goals) maybe we'll get away with it...

Obviously we will miss Bazuna distribution but I see it as a positive in the respect we are far less likely to keep fannying around with it across the back with McCarthy in goal as he's just not good with the ball at his feet. This will hopefully encourage us to get the ball up the field quicker which was evident on Tuesday albeit against a team that was not interested really. The true indicator will be against Leicester and Leeds who will press us and we won't have as much of the ball. 

[Saint_clark]

2 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

I don’t think Bazunu will have a good career.  

I did, but after this? Not so sure. We're going to need to sign a new number one in the summer now - not a stop gap, not a "can do a job", we need to get the best keeper available with the funds we have. And with Bazunu coming back from a serious injury and a new keeper potentially cementing his place in the team, who knows if he'll progress on the expected trajectory at all. 

[Saint86]

7 minutes ago, The Curse of St Mary's said:

Obviously we will miss Bazuna distribution but I see it as a positive in the respect we are far less likely to keep fannying around with it across the back with McCarthy in goal as he's just not good with the ball at his feet. This will hopefully encourage us to get the ball up the field quicker which was evident on Tuesday albeit against a team that was not interested really. The true indicator will be against Leicester and Leeds who will press us and we won't have as much of the ball. 

Lately, and Watford was a great example, we've used Baz, che, and other runners to go long repeatedly after drawing the oppo on to us, and to really good effect. That is off the cards with Lumley and Macca's kicking/throwing. People might find our football boring or ineffective, but it works - and being forced to change it now is a risk with respect to how it will impact the side. If we wind up in a situation where Leeds or Leicester don't need the win, or where teams are pushing up on us with a high line etc. the other two keepers just don't have the distribution to get us out effectively - and without that ability to mix it up we may well struggle. Not to mention our defence are going to expect to be able to pass it back and around very nearly at the back.. I don't know how the rest of you feel about Macca and Lumley, but their touch and positional play is no where near as good as Baz's, and Macca is as likely to find the touchline as our own players if kicking to the halfway line 😅.

Edited 19 April, 2024 by Saint86

[Sunglasses Ron]

4 hours ago, Dusic said:

Confirmed out for 9-10 months. Also causes a problem for the summer as will need to find a starting keeper when probably not budgeted for, who might not be needed by the end of the season when Bazunu gets back.

 

4 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

Wow, that's horrendous for him. Same injury as Ross Stewart.

The solution seems obvious to me, play Ross Stewart in goal!

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 hours ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

 

The solution seems obvious to me, play Ross Stewart in goal!

And displace Stephens? 🙂

[Lord Duckhunter]

8 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

Wow, that's horrendous for him. Same injury as Ross Stewart.

Martin did say he’d sign Baz if he wasn’t already here, so I guess this proves it…

[Miltonaggro]

4 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Martin did say he’d sign Baz if he wasn’t already here, so I guess this proves it…

When he takes over at Brighton in the summer he will.

[Wade Garrett]

5 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

I did, but after this? Not so sure. We're going to need to sign a new number one in the summer now - not a stop gap, not a "can do a job", we need to get the best keeper available with the funds we have. And with Bazunu coming back from a serious injury and a new keeper potentially cementing his place in the team, who knows if he'll progress on the expected trajectory at all. 

I think our expected trajectories are quite different.

[Wade Garrett]

5 hours ago, Saint86 said:

Lately, and Watford was a great example, we've used Baz, che, and other runners to go long repeatedly after drawing the oppo on to us, and to really good effect. That is off the cards with Lumley and Macca's kicking/throwing. People might find our football boring or ineffective, but it works - and being forced to change it now is a risk with respect to how it will impact the side. If we wind up in a situation where Leeds or Leicester don't need the win, or where teams are pushing up on us with a high line etc. the other two keepers just don't have the distribution to get us out effectively - and without that ability to mix it up we may well struggle. Not to mention our defence are going to expect to be able to pass it back and around very nearly at the back.. I don't know how the rest of you feel about Macca and Lumley, but their touch and positional play is no where near as good as Baz's, and Macca is as likely to find the touchline as our own players if kicking to the halfway line 😅.

Lumley is good with his feet and at least Leeds and Leicester won’t just have to shoot on target against us to score.

[davefizzy14]

Really feel for Gavin, such a bad injury to pick up. He will come back stronger from this, I wish him a full and speedy recovery.

[bpsaint]

58 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Lumley is good with his feet and at least Leeds and Leicester won’t just have to shoot on target against us to score.

Really? Did you not see the compilation of Lumley “highlights” someone posted the other day?

[AlexLaw76]

Oh well… hopefully saints can get someone better 

[Paulwantsapint81]

Hope the lad has a good recovery & isn’t rushed back he has still got another 15+ years of playing 

[Tommy Mulgrew]

9 hours ago, david in sweden said:

and ideally the  no.1 

choice for next season must be an international for some country, especially if we do get promotion. 

Probably not for Ireland, though, unless it is that Kelleher Ireland keeper from Liverhampton; he would do for our first-choice keeper (not that we would ever get him).

[Baird of the land]

5 minutes ago, Tommy Mulgrew said:

Probably not for Ireland, though, unless it is that Kelleher Ireland keeper from Liverhampton; he would do for our first-choice keeper (not that we would ever get him).

We can get Bailey Peacock-Farrell.

[pimpin4rizeal]

17 hours ago, Saint86 said:

I mean, we had posters who were blaming him for the watford goals and who are utterly oblivious to how good his distribution is and how important it is to our play. Anyone who thinks its a good thing going into 3 must win games (and likely play offs) without our first choice (and frankly only keeper that suits our style of play) is absolutely deluded in my opinion - this weakens the team unquestionably.

We are going to go into must win games at Leicester and Leeds, as well as play off knock out matches with either Macca or Lumley. The former is a liability with the ball at his feet and anything at his near post, the latter is just a poor keeper although at least he can do the sweeper role to a degree. The only silver lining i can see is that it might actually introduce some concentration in our defence who seem to constantly switch off for fatal 5-10min periods in games... If it puts an end to the casual play consistently evidenced by our defenders (which is frankly the overwhelming reason we concede goals) maybe we'll get away with it...

Iol I couldn’t care less if his distribution is as good as Glenn  hoddle. What good does it do us ? What’s more important the fact that nearly any shot on our goal goes in past bazunu or his  silly distribution ?

hes been absolutely shocking for 2 years 

it’s like people try to find anything to argue his cause his job is to keep the bell out of the net and he totally sucks at it 

[Weston Super Saint]

11 hours ago, Paulwantsapint81 said:

Hope the lad has a good recovery & isn’t rushed back he has still got another 15+ years of playing 

Holy shit!  Did we really give him a contract that long?

[AlexLaw76]

Get the Rotherham keeper

much better than Baz, is are most of the keepers in this league

[SaintsBarry74]

13 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

Lumley is good with his feet and at least Leeds and Leicester won’t just have to shoot on target against us to score.

Lumley was the worst shot stopper in the Championship last season, not Baz-levels of poor stats but in the same category. I feel like our recruitment is just taking the piss.

[Galway saint]

We can either play Lumley or AM for the next few games. 

Baz is out of the picture for 10 months and we are going to have to buy a new keeper next season whatever league we are in so it’s unfortunate for Baz but I think it accelerates the inevitable need to buy a new keeper because Baz in my view isn’t a top level keeper

[gio1saints]

49 minutes ago, SaintsBarry74 said:

Lumley was the worst shot stopper in the Championship last season, not Baz-levels of poor stats but in the same category. I feel like our recruitment is just taking the piss.

Have you watched his games this season? He has played well every time selected. 

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Get the Rotherham keeper

much better than Baz, is are most of the keepers in this league

He's let in 85 goals so far this season. 

[Whitey Grandad]

33 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

Have you watched his games this season? He has played well every time selected. 

He's been ok but I can remember the odd fumble or two.

Whatever, it's between him and McCarthy which is a ridiculous situation to find ourselves in.

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Get the Rotherham keeper

much better than Baz, is are most of the keepers in this league

Better yet, bring back Angus Gunn, who has a better save percentage.

[trousers]

23 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

He's let in 85 goals so far this season. 

One assumes the quality of Rotherham's defence was a factor in a significant number of those goals. The more important stat is how many goal preventing saves he made. Do we know how he's compares with Bazunu on that measure? (As a percentage of shots on goal, as no doubt he'll have had many more shots to deal with than Bazunu overall)

Edited 20 April, 2024 by trousers

[AlexLaw76]

11 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Better yet, bring back Angus Gunn, who has a better save percentage.

Yep, both better than bazunu

[AlexLaw76]

31 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

He's let in 85 goals so far this season. 

Aye, and has been their best player by a mile and probably kept it down to 85

I dead to think the number of goals shipped had Bazunu been their keeper

[gio1saints]

12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Aye, and has been their best player by a mile and probably kept it down to 85

I dead to think the number of goals shipped had Bazunu been their keeper

Talk about hitting a man when he’s down…

I agree probably too many goals gone in that lookedsave-able but Baz is not just a shot stopper though. He is/was Russell’s totem for PB based football. It starts with the keeper. Without Baz there would not be the ( largely successful) style weve seen all season. 
With all the criticism being handed out about him I thought only fair to also identify the positives. 

[bpsaint]

1 hour ago, gio1saints said:

Have you watched his games this season? He has played well every time selected. 

Discounting that free kick he let in against Watford, which was pathetic quite frankly.

[Lord Duckhunter]

4 hours ago, SaintsBarry74 said:

Lumley was the worst shot stopper in the Championship last season,

 

He was unlucky, a season later and he’d have been only the second worse. 

 

 

[Weston Super Saint]

2 hours ago, gio1saints said:

 

I agree probably too many goals gone in that lookedsave-able but Baz is not just a shot stopper though. 

He's not a shop stopper at all.

 

[pimpin4rizeal]

3 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Talk about hitting a man when he’s down…

I agree probably too many goals gone in that lookedsave-able but Baz is not just a shot stopper though. He is/was Russell’s totem for PB based football. It starts with the keeper. Without Baz there would not be the ( largely successful) style weve seen all season. 
With all the criticism being handed out about him I thought only fair to also identify the positives. 

Lol why are we making out like bazunu is the only goal keeper capable of passing to his defenders as well ..  all this ball at feet stuff  is the biggest load of bs  I’ve heard since the stuff about elyounoussi being selected all the time for off the ball work (which he wasn’t even that great at anyway 

Might as well sign a striker who’s good with his chest 🤣

Edited 20 April, 2024 by pimpin4rizeal

[The Cat]

Johansson at Rotherham is decent but seemingly current flavour of the month amongst Saints fans who were probably unaware of his existence before this season and are now stating we should sign him based on having seen him play twice in his career.

[Wade Garrett]

17 hours ago, bpsaint said:

Really? Did you not see the compilation of Lumley “highlights” someone posted the other day?

Fucking twice as good as Bazunu’s highlights.

[Wade Garrett]

5 hours ago, SaintsBarry74 said:

Lumley was the worst shot stopper in the Championship last season, not Baz-levels of poor stats but in the same category. I feel like our recruitment is just taking the piss.

Wouldn’t disagree with that, but Lumley would still be an improvement.

[Saint86]

9 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Iol I couldn’t care less if his distribution is as good as Glenn  hoddle. What good does it do us ? What’s more important the fact that nearly any shot on our goal goes in past bazunu or his  silly distribution ?

hes been absolutely shocking for 2 years 

it’s like people try to find anything to argue his cause his job is to keep the bell out of the net and he totally sucks at it 

https://x.com/SouthamptonFC/status/1781390801810940396

Like it or not, he's a key part of our game. Pretty apt example truth be told - since playing it to baz led to a goal against today's opponents. We play the ball around the back to draw teams on and break - and Macca and Lumley are no where near as good at that as Baz was.

Edited 20 April, 2024 by Saint86

[Saint_clark]

31 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

https://x.com/SouthamptonFC/status/1781390801810940396

Like it or not, he's a key part of our game. Pretty apt example truth be told - since playing it to baz led to a goal against today's opponents. We play the ball around the back to draw teams on and break - and Macca and Lumley are no where near as good at that as Baz was.

Without that 6 yard pass we'd be in the relegation zone for sure. 

[Whitey Grandad]

10 hours ago, trousers said:

One assumes the quality of Rotherham's defence was a factor in a significant number of those goals. The more important stat is how many goal preventing saves he made. Do we know how he's compares with Bazunu on that measure? (As a percentage of shots on goal, as no doubt he'll have had many more shots to deal with than Bazunu overall)

As I have always said, such statistics are meaningless for the reasons that you state.

The total number of goals conceded gives a rough indication of goalkeeper quality yet we have people on here saying that if we'd had anyone but Baz we'd be top of the league. As you say, it's the quality of the defence as a whole that is most important and ours is just not good enough. I'd rather they concentrated on keeping their shape and closing down quickly than playing pretty triangles across their goalmouth. 

[SaintsBarry74]

Lmao.

[AlexLaw76]

 

[Saint_clark]

47 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

It's a fucking mystery.

[Turkish]

10 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

It'll be you moaning when he has his first good season and ditches us for a slightly bigger club.

He was playing professional football for his country and was the best keeper in League One when he was 18-19. It isn't his fault he was thrown in at the deep end when he was clearly not ready. But there's very clearly huge talent there.

And the worst keeper in the championship at 21

[BARCELONASAINT]

For gods sake can we stop with the who is the most shittiest keeper out of baz and McCarthy......the one thing we all agree on is neither is good enough for the Premiership and we desperately need a new keeper!

 

[ErwinK1961]

10 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

For gods sake can we stop with the who is the most shittiest keeper out of baz and McCarthy......the one thing we all agree on is neither is good enough for the Premiership and we desperately need a new keeper!

 

Well said!