Gavin Bazunu

[John Boy Saint]

Think he was distracted by the “Ole’s” rather than doing his job and clearing it out

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

6 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said:

Think he was distracted by the “Ole’s” rather than doing his job and clearing it out

Partly that and partly THB took a knock about 30 seconds before (probably should have stayed down) and think Baz was reluctant to play the easy pass to him.

Cock up, but he'll learn from it.

[Harry_SFC]

Surprised it's taken this long for that to happen. No because he's bad with his feet (quite the opposite) but because of the amount of times he receives the ball. It was bound to happen eventually.

Edited 29 December, 2023 by Harry_SFC

[Harry_SFC]

17 minutes ago, sambosa75 said:

It’s a matter of time before he does.  His feet are meant to be his strong point but that was diabolical.

His feet are his strong point. Pretty sure this is the first time he's made that sort of cock up for us. 

[Saint Matty 76]

Been his biggest critic but let’s not let that distract from our good he is with his feet for us.

Hopefully that happened (without consequence) and he’ll be a bit smarter in that position moving forward. Bit of arrogance I feel.

[Lord Duckhunter]

100% down to him, don’t understand why anyone could pretend otherwise. It was a back pass every single professional goal keeper should have dealt with & he fucked it up.

That said, it was just a one off, dealing with back passes and the ball at his feet is his strength (and the manager wants us to play this way). He’ll learn from this and the experience will help eradicate this sort of error. My issue isn’t this error, it’s his paper wrists and the underlying weaknesses you can’t coach out of his game. 

[LuckyNumber7]

I've been one of his biggest critics but give the guy a break. He's been much improved this season and given the way we play it was inevitable that was going to happen sooner or later, it happens to the best. Think he just seemed to get caught in two minds. Just hope it doesn't knock his confidence too much.

[Dark Munster]

58 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

Brain fart, move on. Even Allison has made similar gaffs. It happens.

[davefizzy14]

Bazanu has been great this season. These things can happen, he will improve from that. 

Edited 29 December, 2023 by davefizzy14

[OttawaSaint]

He'll hold his hand up for that one.

But, it didn't cost us and perhaps can be used in a positive way to see what he did wrong and get it fixed for more important moments in upcoming matches. 

[Ekelund]

34 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

His feet are his strong point. Pretty sure this is the first time he's made that sort of cock up for us. 

He’s a Goal keeper, keeper of goal, keeper of nets, tho shall not kin pass… I’d love him to become the best keeper we’ve ever had but the simple, plain as day fact is that he can’t be trusted.

Just when you think, yeah OK, I can kinda see it another cluster fuck comes along. The only difference between this and Watford and Huddersfield is that it hasn’t cost us

[CSA96]

The change in the atmosphere as the season has progressed was well-illustrated by the fact Itchen North, Northam and Kingsland were chanting his name immediately after the fuck up and he responded later on with applause 👍🏻

[The Kraken]

5 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

The change in the atmosphere as the season has progressed was well-illustrated by the fact Itchen North, Northam and Kingsland were chanting his name immediately after the fuck up and he responded later on with applause 👍🏻

Yeah I noticed that and good on em.

[Whitey Grandad]

Oh dear.

Too cocky by half. We can only hope that lessons are learnt by everyone involved. At that stage of the game anywhere but there would have been the better choice.

[Galway saint]

these things happen. doesn’t alter my concerns but we move on as he’s earned that by virtue of the way he’s asked to play 

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, davefizzy14 said:

Bazanu has been great this season. 

Fuck me, great 😂😂

[davefizzy14]

Just now, Lord Duckhunter said:

Fuck me, great 😂😂

Get off his back! 

[Lighthouse]

These things happen, it’s not as if it’s a regular occurrence. He has been consistently on excellent with the ball at his feet and his calmness and composure are a large part of why we’ve had the joint best defence in the league over the last three months.

Boruc was the best keeper we’ve had since Niemi and he was capable of plenty of howlers. Likewise Forster and Kelvin, let’s not pretend there are any perfect keepers out there who never have moments like this.

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

2 hours ago, davefizzy14 said:

Bazanu has been great this season. These things can happen, he will improve from that. 

Not by a long way

[The Kraken]

35 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

These things happen, it’s not as if it’s a regular occurrence. He has been consistently on excellent with the ball at his feet and his calmness and composure are a large part of why we’ve had the joint best defence in the league over the last three months.

Boruc was the best keeper we’ve had since Niemi and he was capable of plenty of howlers. Likewise Forster and Kelvin, let’s not pretend there are any perfect keepers out there who never have moments like this.

Literally nobody is pretending there are any perfect keepers out there.

Why do people resort to hyperbole like this? It’s ridiculous.

[Patrick Bateman]

4 hours ago, sambosa75 said:

This useless cunt needs to be a million miles away from the first team.

Way too harsh and completely unnecessary, he's been a completely different player this season and this happens to many goalies once. 

[Ball boy]

I think the lad showed great mental strength after he completely messed up. 
So easy to completely go to pieces after a calamity like that. 
he will be a top keeper some day. 

[Elmore Saint]

As a member of the keepers union, we just do strange shit sometimes. This was such a moment…..

[Lighthouse]

18 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Literally nobody is pretending there are any perfect keepers out there.

Why do people resort to hyperbole like this? It’s ridiculous.

Some people seem to think he’s useless, should be nowhere near the team, is the worst keeper in the league or if they are being kind, ‘might be good enough in ten years’. There are more than enough people claiming his mistakes ‘cost us points’ as if that’s somehow unique to him and not every player, in every squad in the country.

Kelvin was in the team of the season last time we got promoted. He was frequently beaten low at his near post, had the odd howler in his locker and his distribution was nowhere near as accurate and composed as Baz.

The hyperbole is from people claiming he’s some sort of liability, holding this team back, when that’s very clearly not the case. Every player will make mistakes which will cost us points. If they didn’t we’d finish the season on 138 points.

[The Kraken]

29 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Some people seem to think he’s useless, should be nowhere near the team, is the worst keeper in the league or if they are being kind, ‘might be good enough in ten years’. There are more than enough people claiming his mistakes ‘cost us points’ as if that’s somehow unique to him and not every player, in every squad in the country.

Kelvin was in the team of the season last time we got promoted. He was frequently beaten low at his near post, had the odd howler in his locker and his distribution was nowhere near as accurate and composed as Baz.

The hyperbole is from people claiming he’s some sort of liability, holding this team back, when that’s very clearly not the case. Every player will make mistakes which will cost us points. If they didn’t we’d finish the season on 138 points.

More nonsense. Yes, there’s a massive scale on people’s opinion of Bazunu. But literally nobody thinks there is a perfect keeper out there, or even if there was that we would get 138 points from him. It’s just a Bad Wolf pile of waffle you keep suggesting. He’s a young kid, he’s made plenty of mistakes before and he’s still making them, surprise surprise people talk about it when it happens.

[Lighthouse]

12 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

More nonsense. Yes, there’s a massive scale on people’s opinion of Bazunu. But literally nobody thinks there is a perfect keeper out there, or even if there was that we would get 138 points from him. It’s just a Bad Wolf pile of waffle you keep suggesting. He’s a young kid, he’s made plenty of mistakes before and he’s still making them, surprise surprise people talk about it when it happens.

There are clearly people who think Bazunu is not good enough and is a weakness in our team. His distribution is excellent, he’s calm and composed on the ball, he communicates well with the defence, he makes the routine saves comfortably and he makes some excellent saves which go beyond the ordinary from time to time. Tonight’s howler was the first such lapse in concentration he’s made this season, it happens. There have been goals he could have done better with, a handful where he didn’t get down quick enough, predominantly to his left.

You say nobody wants a perfect keeper but a fair number of people want him out the team for what is his only real, relatively minor, weakness. He's a large part of the way we play, which at the moment has us conceding less than a goal a game and pretty much the best defence in the league. We aren’t going to get another keeper at this level, who plays this system as well as Baz does.

[SWLondonSaint]

It happens, move on. 

[Saint_clark]

4 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

 

You say nobody wants a perfect keeper but a fair number of people want him out the team for what is his only real, relatively minor, weakness. 

Not being a good shot stopper is not a minor weakness for a goalkeeper. 

[Maggie May]

12 hours ago, sambosa75 said:

This useless cunt needs to be a million miles away from the first team.

It’s incredible we have fans capable of spouting this vitriolic garbage. 

[Whitey Grandad]

Nobody complained on Tuesday when their keeper missed a kick and let Edozie in.

We've got ourselves into the ridiculous situation where we try to involve our own keeper in more touches of the ball that the opposition’s. This is going to go wrong far too often.

[The Cat]

11 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Nobody complained on Tuesday when their keeper missed a kick and let Edozie in.

We've got ourselves into the ridiculous situation where we try to involve our own keeper in more touches of the ball that the opposition’s. This is going to go wrong far too often.

Martin laid no blame on Bazunu in the post match interview. He said the players started passing back to him too much near the end and weren't being positive enough in possession.

It's the first real mistake with his feet that had led to a goal I can remember this season.

All keepers make them, even Ederson and Allisson who are seen as the gold standard for passing out from the back.

[Lord Duckhunter]

9 minutes ago, The Cat said:

 

All keepers make them, even Ederson and Allisson who are seen as the gold standard for passing out from the back.

The difference is Allisson & Ederson make world class saves that win their sides points and they rarely let soft goals in like the Watford equaliser. They are “great” keepers, Baz is an average one at the moment. We have the ridiculous situation where he performs adequately and some want to over hype it. Still I guess adequate is an improvement on last year. 
 

 

[BARCELONASAINT]

7 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

The difference is Allisson & Ederson make world class saves that win their sides points and they rarely let soft goals in like the Watford equaliser. They are “great” keepers, Baz is an average one at the moment. We have the ridiculous situation where he performs adequately and some want to over hype it. Still I guess adequate is an improvement on last year. 
 

 

We also get the ridiculous situation where a very young goalkeeper learning his trade is regarded as crap by posters like yourself that will only highlight his errors and find it hard to give any praise at all.

He is a very good goalkeeper and we are very fortunate to have him. Certain clubs in the Premiership would not be looking at him if he was crap, they can see the lad has the making of a top goalkeeper.

Get behind him like the crowd did at St Mary's last night after he made that mistake.

There is not a player in our squad that you cannot say at some point has cost us points because of terrible defensive errors or woeful finishing when it was easier to score!

[The Cat]

12 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

The difference is Allisson & Ederson make world class saves that win their sides points and they rarely let soft goals in like the Watford equaliser. They are “great” keepers, Baz is an average one at the moment. We have the ridiculous situation where he performs adequately and some want to over hype it. Still I guess adequate is an improvement on last year. 
 

 

And there's also people who are far too quick to jump on his back when he makes a mistake and do the opposite.

He's a very good young keeper. He will make mistakes, as he improves as a player these will happen less often.

Also, because he's young, he hasn't had as much time as Ederson, Allisson, Pickford or whoever to make these match winning saves, although this season he has definitely contributed to us winning points with his performances.

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 minute ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

 

He is a very good goalkeeper and we are very fortunate to have him. 

 

More hype. 
 

I doubt more than a handful of opposition supporters have come away from the 60 odd games he’s played wishing he was their keeper. The fortunate one is him, because most clubs would have given up on him by now. 

[Harry_SFC]

Not sure he's the best keeper in the league but he's sure as hell not the worst. From what I've seen he's probably still in the top 6 best but until he sorts out the flaw with diving to his left there will be question marks over him. 

Talking about keepers at this level though - Just from our last 3 home games the Plymouth, Swansea and Blackburn ones all looked terrible to me. 

[Lighthouse]

20 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

More hype. 
 

I doubt more than a handful of opposition supporters have come away from the 60 odd games he’s played wishing he was their keeper. The fortunate one is him, because most clubs would have given up on him by now. 

That would depend entirely on whether they were really seeing the big picture of how we play or just want to clap like seals for Hollywood saves. I think some people would prefer to have a keeper who faced eight shots on target last night and threw himself heroically in front of six, rather than Baz.

[Galway saint]

53 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

We also get the ridiculous situation where a very young goalkeeper learning his trade is regarded as crap by posters like yourself that will only highlight his errors and find it hard to give any praise at all.

He is a very good goalkeeper and we are very fortunate to have him. Certain clubs in the Premiership would not be looking at him if he was crap, they can see the lad has the making of a top goalkeeper.

Get behind him like the crowd did at St Mary's last night after he made that mistake.

There is not a player in our squad that you cannot say at some point has cost us points because of terrible defensive errors or woeful finishing when it was easier to score!

i have some difficulty seeing anyone from the premiership is seriously scouting him.

since Huddersfield they would be reporting back that saints have only conceded 4 goals but of those two were his fault and one was arguably where he should have done better. 

mistakes like last night happen to the best keepers so we move on from that but again anyone scouting him over the past 18 months would need their heads examining if they reported back that the club should be signing him.

i don’t see we are very fortunate to have him. the converse really. He’s very fortunate to have a club who have stuck by him and continue to do so.

we’re doing great at the moment and we are far superior to most teams we play so he doesn’t have much to do but if we do go up Baz would be back centre stage with the ball flying at him from all angles and i have my doubts it would be much different to last time 

 

[Saint_clark]

7 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Nobody complained on Tuesday when their keeper missed a kick and let Edozie in.

We've got ourselves into the ridiculous situation where we try to involve our own keeper in more touches of the ball that the opposition’s. This is going to go wrong far too often.

Nobody? I bet their fans did. As we would if our keeper did that.

[derry]

Of all the goalkeepers I've seen in this league he is easily the best when it comes to fitting in to the way we play especially sweeping behind the back four. As our defensive record has improved the better he has been. Manning is a much bigger weakness and McCarthy is totally unsuited to the way we play. For me it was a stupid mistake. Personally I'd put some of the responsibility on the manager because there is a reluctance with all the players to accept that sometimes putting a foot through the ball is the real solution.

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

Nobody? I bet their fans did. As we would if our keeper did that.

We all know that opposition fans count for nothing.

[Wade Garrett]

That was a horrible back-pass by Jack Stephens to be fair.

[Whitey Grandad]

5 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

That was a horrible back-pass by Jack Stephens to be fair.

True. It explains but doesn’t excuse the error.

It was a symptom of the mindset that in order to keep the ball away from your enemy you have to pass it back to your goalkeeper all the time. Hoofing it downfield is less dangerous.

[Lord Duckhunter]

10 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

That was a horrible back-pass by Jack Stephens to be fair.

I wondered when this nonsense was going to start. He controlled the back pass to his left, he could of then knocked it to Manning (or even banged it up  the left). He turned back onto his right foot, that was the error, dragging it back onto his right & delaying gave the forward the chance, not the back pass. 100% down to him. 

Edited 30 December, 2023 by Lord Duckhunter

[Saint_clark]

16 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

That was a horrible back-pass by Jack Stephens to be fair.

Nothing wrong with the back pass at all. Bazunu had the ball under control and still had time after that to get rid, so it wasn't a dodgy pass that he struggled to deal with. 

[Wade Garrett]

Just to elaborate on my earlier point, for clarification.  I wasn’t excusing Bazunu, just stating that it was a horrible back pass.

It was a lazy bobbling ball back to the keeper with a forward a few yards away from him.

It was also a fuck-up by the keeper, who should have just got his laces through it and given Stephens a bollocking.

[Convict Colony]

Compared to last season the bro has improved massively especially since he receives the ball way more.  Some of his "saves" have been weak but he is a young keeper and will improve, i think people underestimate how much his passing gives our CBs and wing backs freedom and quickly they forget him forcing last minute goal and saves in some recent games.

Stats so far - not sure how they sort this but he looks like the 5th best keeper so far.

 

[Wade Garrett]

10 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I wondered when this nonsense was going to start. He controlled the back pass to his left, he could of then knocked it to Manning (or even banged it up  the left). He turned back onto his right foot, that was the error, dragging it back onto his right & delaying gave the forward the chance, not the back pass. 100% down to him. 

I’m not disagreeing, but it was a shit ball back to him.

[Weston Super Saint]

13 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

Stats so far - not sure how they sort this but he looks like the 5th best keeper so far.

 

Alphabetically

He's fifth, alphabetically, of all Championship keepers. What a marvellous stat to hold!

Although, arguably, he should be promoted to the heady heights of fourth as Runar Alex Runarsson should technically be in the 'R' section.

Edited 31 December, 2023 by Weston Super Saint

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Alphabetically

He's fifth, alphabetically, of all Championship keepers. What a marvellous stat to hold!

Although, arguably, he should be promoted to the heady heights of fourth as Runar Alex Runarsson should technically be in the 'R' section.

We'll miss him when he develops into Gavin Aardvark, and the big clubs pinch him.