CB Fry Posted 21 October, 2023 Posted 21 October, 2023 15 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: Sunderland's 3rd is about it. And absolutely. The way he's been treated by our fans is nothing short of disgusting. That's not people who simply don't rate him - I mean the people who have made personal comments that if read, would possibly have a negative affect on someone's mental health. You just know it's the same people who were whinging about Tino "owing the club loyalty" or some shit. Jesus wept.
Saint_clark Posted 21 October, 2023 Posted 21 October, 2023 18 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: Sunderland's 3rd is about it. And absolutely. The way he's been treated by our fans is nothing short of disgusting. That's not people who simply don't rate him - I mean the people who have made personal comments that if read, would possibly have a negative affect on someone's mental health. You just know it's the same people who were whinging about Tino "owing the club loyalty" or some shit. He's been shown incredible support from fans at the games considering the level of his performances. 4 1
Bad Wolf Posted 21 October, 2023 Posted 21 October, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: He's been shown incredible support from fans at the games considering the level of his performances. At games, maybe. But you don't think players read social media comments about themselves? And again, I'm not talking about simply "I don't think he's very good" I mean stuff like "That **** keeper starts again. Hope he gets injured so he doesn't play again" I don't think Perraud was very good but I didn't go on social media wishing injuries etc on him. Edited 21 October, 2023 by Bad Wolf 1 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 October, 2023 Posted 22 October, 2023 15 hours ago, Block41 Saint said: He done well today. Do you think Hull supporters would want to swap keepers?
Tamesaint Posted 22 October, 2023 Posted 22 October, 2023 10 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Do you think Hull supporters would want to swap keepers? I don't know any so can't ask but they probably would happily swap. Both keepers made decent saves yesterday but Gavin was a better sweeper than their goalie. Both teams played passing football but their keeper seemed rooted to his line and didn't make himself as available for the pass back.
HKsaint Posted 23 October, 2023 Posted 23 October, 2023 6 hours ago, Tamesaint said: I don't know any so can't ask but they probably would happily swap. Both keepers made decent saves yesterday but Gavin was a better sweeper than their goalie. Both teams played passing football but their keeper seemed rooted to his line and didn't make himself as available for the pass back. They don’t play passing back like we do.
stevy777_x Posted 23 October, 2023 Posted 23 October, 2023 Another clean sheet for Liz, can see him coming back next season and being our back up keeper.
Wade Garrett Posted 23 October, 2023 Posted 23 October, 2023 Baz made a difficult save low to his left on Saturday. Much better.
FarehamSaintJames Posted 23 October, 2023 Posted 23 October, 2023 Let’s be honest he hasn’t done much wrong this season. Last year there were big errors all round, including several from Baz. Most of the them this season have come from in front the defence/tika taka screw ups leaving him exposed. 5 1
saintscottofthenortham Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 What a fooookin save at Deepdale. 🔥 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 A decent keeper saves one of those 2 3
Lighthouse Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 The first goal he had ready dived for it, it went through a crowd of legs and got a deflection, I think off Charles. The second was an unchallenged shot from six yards, which came from our own attack. Anyone blaming Baz for those two goals is insane. It’s the team in front of him collapsing time after time. 6 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 Just now, Lighthouse said: The first goal he had ready dived for it, it went through a crowd of legs and got a deflection, I think off Charles. The second was an unchallenged shot from six yards, which came from our own attack. Anyone blaming Baz for those two goals is insane. It’s the team in front of him collapsing time after time. LOL the 2nd goal when right through him, from an angle 2
Saint Matty 76 Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: The first goal he had ready dived for it, it went through a crowd of legs and got a deflection, I think off Charles. The second was an unchallenged shot from six yards, which came from our own attack. Anyone blaming Baz for those two goals is insane. It’s the team in front of him collapsing time after time. You’re just deluded at this point mate, that or you just love arguing against the (obvious) consensus 2
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 (edited) Forster would have saved the second one, every day of the week. The bird commentating said “could Baz have done better for the first ”. How many times is that question asked? I Edited 25 October, 2023 by Lord Duckhunter 4
Lighthouse Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 9 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: LOL the 2nd goal when right through him, from an angle Yes, that’s how you score a goal from an angle at close range. If he keeps his legs together there’s just loads of space either side of the, to tuck it past. He can’t grow an extra couple of legs, there is always going to be a space, which any decent striker will find. I know that sounds like witchcraft when you’ve been watching Che Adams for this long but trust me, it’s true. 1 2 1
DellBoys Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 Might as well play another outfielder and forget about picking a goalie 3 1
BARCELONASAINT Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 some absolute bloody tools on here blaming Baz for either goal 4 4
Lighthouse Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 Booooooosh! You can all suck my f**king dong! 1 4 1
Sunglasses Ron Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 5 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said: some absolute bloody tools on here blaming Baz for either goal I definitely blame him for our equaliser! 1 1
Jimbo Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 Decent keeper saves the first. second straight through him. Still not good enough 2
Saint_clark Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 11 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Booooooosh! You can all suck my f**king dong! Yep, the mark of a truly great keeper is whether or not he can nearly get his head on a last minute corner that then goes in via own goal. Consider me proven wrong. 1 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Yep, the mark of a truly great keeper is whether or not he can nearly get his head on a last minute corner that then goes in via own goal. Consider me proven wrong. His head is very similar to his hands, the ball skimmed off it. He caused confusion, which resulted in an OG. It was hardly Ron Davies territory and certainly not worthy of a blow job for lighthouse. God knows what he’ll want if Baz saves a penalty. Edited 25 October, 2023 by Lord Duckhunter 2
Badger Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 14 minutes ago, Jimbo said: Decent keeper saves the first. second straight through him. Still not good enough Yet he caused more panic in their defence when he got into their penalty area than our timid so called strikers. Sums up a lot wrong at SFC at both ends of the pitch. 1
stknowle Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 16 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said: I definitely blame him for our equaliser! And me. More or less straight at him. Ok players in between, that might excuse a pub league keeper. At this level you need and expect better. 1
Lighthouse Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 27 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: His head is very similar to his hands, the ball skimmed off it. He caused confusion, which resulted in an OG. It was hardly Ron Davies territory and certainly not worthy of a blow job for lighthouse. God knows what he’ll want if Baz saves a penalty. He went up for a set piece and got his head on it, which clearly deflected it in off Evans. Christ, if a Saints fan can’t just enjoy a moment like that in the last minute of injury time, I can’t help you. I’ll take that over our outfield players spooning it into the car park any night. 7
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: He went up for a set piece and got his head on it, which clearly deflected it in off Evans. If it deflected in, it’s Baz’s goal. It clearly wasn’t, but if it makes you feel vindicated that he’s a good keeper, go ahead and enjoy the moment. It won’t be too long before we’ll be discussing whether he should have done better with another goal at our end.
Tamesaint Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 (edited) It's amazing how such a crap goalkeeper can make such a good save in the first half. Edited 26 October, 2023 by Tamesaint
Galway saint Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 He made a good save ( perhaps his best for us?) but again he should be doing better with the first goal. He struggles with shots from outside the box at pace where he needs to get down to his left. See Sunderland and Middlesbrough. The second was more marginal but if you were being critical he should have been more advanced and narrowed the angle. Not sure why he turned away from the shot either. Again he doesn’t make howlers and neither was but he doesn’t make enough saves for me. Did well at the end though but with a decent keeper tonight we steal three undeserved points. They said at the beginning on the commentary he’s only had 5 or 6 clean sheets in 50 or so games ! The way we defend under Martin by the end of the season it will be nearer 5 or 6 in 80 or so games.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 25 October, 2023 Posted 25 October, 2023 It has to be McCarthy in goal for the next game. But only because Baz will be up front. 3
Saint_clark Posted 26 October, 2023 Posted 26 October, 2023 6 hours ago, Lighthouse said: He went up for a set piece and got his head on it, which clearly deflected it in off Evans. Christ, if a Saints fan can’t just enjoy a moment like that in the last minute of injury time, I can’t help you. I’ll take that over our outfield players spooning it into the car park any night. I enjoyed it, and was disappointed to see that it actually went in off Evans with little or no touch from Bazunu because how often is he going to get the chance to experience that.
Weston Super Saint Posted 26 October, 2023 Posted 26 October, 2023 9 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: LOL the 2nd goal when right through him, from an angle Baz is a ghost - everything goes through him. 1 1
rooney Posted 26 October, 2023 Posted 26 October, 2023 9 hours ago, Jimbo said: Decent keeper saves the first. second straight through him. Still not good enough He did seem slow in getting down for the first when viewed from behind the goal and the second goal was poor. 2
once_bitterne Posted 26 October, 2023 Posted 26 October, 2023 On pace to concede 85 goals this season. 3
Saint Matty 76 Posted 26 October, 2023 Posted 26 October, 2023 Watching it back and the first really is peak Bazunu Not quite enough to be considered a howler but the majority of keepers probably just save it, nowhere near good enough and I’m truly fed up of him at this point 6
VectisSaint Posted 26 October, 2023 Posted 26 October, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, once_bitterne said: On pace to concede 85 goals this season. Whereas 5 games ago we were "on pace" to concede 109, so a marked improvement. We had 3 bad games where we conceded far too many goals (including Norwich), but take those games out and we are basically conceding a little more than 1 per game. Last 5 games, 5 goals conceded, and even the 2 last night were with a scratch defence, when we have had a settled (competent) defence we have not been the sieve that everyone thinks we are (Bednarek/THB). I must admit last night I thought PNE were likely to go on and get 3 or 4 once they got back in it but it didn't happen. Edited 26 October, 2023 by VectisSaint 1
once_bitterne Posted 26 October, 2023 Posted 26 October, 2023 10 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: Whereas 5 games ago we were "on pace" to concede 109, so a marked improvement. We had 3 bad games where we conceded far too many goals (including Norwich), but take those games out and we are basically conceding a little more than 1 per game. Take out our 3 good games with our solitary clean sheet and 2 where we only conceded once and we are 'on pace' to concede 97. 1
Tamesaint Posted 26 October, 2023 Posted 26 October, 2023 30 minutes ago, once_bitterne said: Take out our 3 good games with our solitary clean sheet and 2 where we only conceded once and we are 'on pace' to concede 97. Take out the 4 matches that we have lost and we would be in the top 2.😁 1
notnowcato Posted 26 October, 2023 Posted 26 October, 2023 The best angle to judge the first was from behind the goal. As the ball is dropping, he takes a step to his right to get sight of the ball, leaving too much of the goal to his left, had he taken a step to his left and therefore being more central I think he saves it - deflection or not. The 2nd was a good finish, sometimes they hit you sometimes they don't, could he have been more off his line to shut the angle? Probably.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 October, 2023 Posted 26 October, 2023 2 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Watching it back and the first really is peak Bazunu Not quite enough to be considered a howler but the majority of keepers probably just save it, nowhere near good enough and I’m truly fed up of him at this point Exactly right & what is pointed out to his supporters over & over again. Even the bird on sky questioned whether he could have done better with the first. There’s a question mark on so many goals we concede but people hide behind the fact he doesn’t make many howlers. He’s played 50 times for us and I doubt there’s one opposing supporter in those 50 games who thought he had a really good game or wishes he was in nets for them. Even the one decent save he made yesterday came after his flappy superman impression from the preceding corner. Had he punched it properly, he wouldn’t have need to block it on the line. 7
VectisSaint Posted 26 October, 2023 Posted 26 October, 2023 8 hours ago, Tamesaint said: Take out the 4 matches that we have lost and we would be in the top 2.😁 Actually we wouldn't. If you take out those 4 games then we would have the same number of points but with 4 games in hand. Smartass. 2
Verbal Kint Posted 26 October, 2023 Posted 26 October, 2023 (edited) Statistically he was the worst shot stopper in the PL last season, and he is currently managing to match that achievement in the Championship - once again he is statistically the worst in the league. We have no hope of getting promoted if he is in goal. From the last few seasons, the highest number of goals any of the promoted teams conceded was in the low 40s. We're currently on 24 already. That's partly down to the style of play and giving the ball away in bad areas, allowing teams to counter on us with a numerical advantage due to so many players being in front of the ball, but it's also because the goalkeeper is a complete liability when it comes to keeping the ball out of his net. It can't carry on, but at this stage I have lost all faith in either the manager or the club to do anything about it Edited 26 October, 2023 by Verbal Kint 3
chiknsmack Posted 27 October, 2023 Posted 27 October, 2023 15 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Even the bird on sky questioned whether he could have done better with the first. Come on now, what do birds know about football?
Miltonaggro Posted 27 October, 2023 Posted 27 October, 2023 21 hours ago, once_bitterne said: Take out our 3 good games with our solitary clean sheet and 2 where we only conceded once and we are 'on pace' to concede 97. This is unfair. Clearly on for his first century 💯
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