AlexLaw76 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 11 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Better yet, bring back Angus Gunn, who has a better save percentage. Yep, both better than bazunu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 31 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: He's let in 85 goals so far this season. Aye, and has been their best player by a mile and probably kept it down to 85 I dead to think the number of goals shipped had Bazunu been their keeper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Aye, and has been their best player by a mile and probably kept it down to 85 I dead to think the number of goals shipped had Bazunu been their keeper Talk about hitting a man when he’s down… I agree probably too many goals gone in that lookedsave-able but Baz is not just a shot stopper though. He is/was Russell’s totem for PB based football. It starts with the keeper. Without Baz there would not be the ( largely successful) style weve seen all season. With all the criticism being handed out about him I thought only fair to also identify the positives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, gio1saints said: Have you watched his games this season? He has played well every time selected. Discounting that free kick he let in against Watford, which was pathetic quite frankly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 4 hours ago, SaintsBarry74 said: Lumley was the worst shot stopper in the Championship last season, He was unlucky, a season later and he’d have been only the second worse. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, gio1saints said: I agree probably too many goals gone in that lookedsave-able but Baz is not just a shot stopper though. He's not a shop stopper at all. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 3 hours ago, gio1saints said: Talk about hitting a man when he’s down… I agree probably too many goals gone in that lookedsave-able but Baz is not just a shot stopper though. He is/was Russell’s totem for PB based football. It starts with the keeper. Without Baz there would not be the ( largely successful) style weve seen all season. With all the criticism being handed out about him I thought only fair to also identify the positives. Lol why are we making out like bazunu is the only goal keeper capable of passing to his defenders as well .. all this ball at feet stuff is the biggest load of bs I’ve heard since the stuff about elyounoussi being selected all the time for off the ball work (which he wasn’t even that great at anyway Might as well sign a striker who’s good with his chest 🤣 Edited April 20 by pimpin4rizeal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Johansson at Rotherham is decent but seemingly current flavour of the month amongst Saints fans who were probably unaware of his existence before this season and are now stating we should sign him based on having seen him play twice in his career. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 17 hours ago, bpsaint said: Really? Did you not see the compilation of Lumley “highlights” someone posted the other day? Fucking twice as good as Bazunu’s highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 5 hours ago, SaintsBarry74 said: Lumley was the worst shot stopper in the Championship last season, not Baz-levels of poor stats but in the same category. I feel like our recruitment is just taking the piss. Wouldn’t disagree with that, but Lumley would still be an improvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 9 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Iol I couldn’t care less if his distribution is as good as Glenn hoddle. What good does it do us ? What’s more important the fact that nearly any shot on our goal goes in past bazunu or his silly distribution ? hes been absolutely shocking for 2 years it’s like people try to find anything to argue his cause his job is to keep the bell out of the net and he totally sucks at it https://x.com/SouthamptonFC/status/1781390801810940396 Like it or not, he's a key part of our game. Pretty apt example truth be told - since playing it to baz led to a goal against today's opponents. We play the ball around the back to draw teams on and break - and Macca and Lumley are no where near as good at that as Baz was. Edited April 20 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 31 minutes ago, Saint86 said: https://x.com/SouthamptonFC/status/1781390801810940396 Like it or not, he's a key part of our game. Pretty apt example truth be told - since playing it to baz led to a goal against today's opponents. We play the ball around the back to draw teams on and break - and Macca and Lumley are no where near as good at that as Baz was. Without that 6 yard pass we'd be in the relegation zone for sure. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 10 hours ago, trousers said: One assumes the quality of Rotherham's defence was a factor in a significant number of those goals. The more important stat is how many goal preventing saves he made. Do we know how he's compares with Bazunu on that measure? (As a percentage of shots on goal, as no doubt he'll have had many more shots to deal with than Bazunu overall) As I have always said, such statistics are meaningless for the reasons that you state. The total number of goals conceded gives a rough indication of goalkeeper quality yet we have people on here saying that if we'd had anyone but Baz we'd be top of the league. As you say, it's the quality of the defence as a whole that is most important and ours is just not good enough. I'd rather they concentrated on keeping their shape and closing down quickly than playing pretty triangles across their goalmouth. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsBarry74 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Lmao. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 47 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: It's a fucking mystery. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 10 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: It'll be you moaning when he has his first good season and ditches us for a slightly bigger club. He was playing professional football for his country and was the best keeper in League One when he was 18-19. It isn't his fault he was thrown in at the deep end when he was clearly not ready. But there's very clearly huge talent there. And the worst keeper in the championship at 21 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 For gods sake can we stop with the who is the most shittiest keeper out of baz and McCarthy......the one thing we all agree on is neither is good enough for the Premiership and we desperately need a new keeper! 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 10 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said: For gods sake can we stop with the who is the most shittiest keeper out of baz and McCarthy......the one thing we all agree on is neither is good enough for the Premiership and we desperately need a new keeper! Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 26 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: But there's very clearly huge talent there. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 29 minutes ago, Turkish said: And the worst keeper in the championship at 21 Yes if you ignore the saves he made as "Saves he should be expected to make" and include goals that literally no keeper in the world have stopped. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 24 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Yes if you ignore the saves he made as "Saves he should be expected to make" and include goals that literally no keeper in the world have stopped. Is that you, Russ? 🥸 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 24 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Yes if you ignore the saves he made as "Saves he should be expected to make" and include goals that literally no keeper in the world have stopped. Ah yes, the old "every striker in the Championship turned into world beaters when they had to get past crisp packet hands" argument. Absolute horseshit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 (edited) Edited August 18 by SambaMaverick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: I was hoping someone would use this one as a go to. Of course it's COMPLETELY the keeper's fault and not at all down to the appalling defending in front of him. Obviously he should do better but you're seriously saying that's 100% Bazunu's fault and no one elses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 All "basic saves any keeper should be making" no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, Bad Wolf said: All "basic saves any keeper should be making" no doubt. And before anyone points out how some of the rebounds were put in, I remember Niemi doing that a lot but used to get credited with making the save anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Ah, we're in the level of Goalkeeper desperation where we're pretending Bazunu isn't shit as well now are we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 7 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: All "basic saves any keeper should be making" no doubt. Yep - a good 70% of them are, the other 10% are punches (included in a highlight reel, always a warning sign), and the other 20% he palms straight out to the oppo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 I don't need to watch any YouTube compilations. I know what I saw. Bazunu is shite 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 10 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: I was hoping someone would use this one as a go to. Of course it's COMPLETELY the keeper's fault and not at all down to the appalling defending in front of him. Obviously he should do better but you're seriously saying that's 100% Bazunu's fault and no one elses? What are you even on about? It's a 25 yard potshot from a knockdown, just fucking save it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 These two stick in my throat too, forget the defending - how the fuck have they gone in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: What are you even on about? It's a 25 yard potshot from a knockdown, just fucking save it!! You're honestly going to say that the defenders shouldn't have stopped that shot coming in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 4 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Yep - a good 70% of them are, the other 10% are punches (included in a highlight reel, always a warning sign), and the other 20% he palms straight out to the oppo Have you ever seen a striker highlight reel? They always include tap ins and penalties! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 5 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Yep - a good 70% of them are, the other 10% are punches (included in a highlight reel, always a warning sign), and the other 20% he palms straight out to the oppo So what you're saying is that there isn't a single good save in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, Bad Wolf said: So what you're saying is that there isn't a single good save in there? Nothing impressive at all about that video mate, I'm sorry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I don't need to watch any YouTube compilations. I know what I saw. Bazunu is shite Not sure anyone's actually disputing that tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, SambaMaverick said: Nothing impressive at all about that video mate, I'm sorry Okay lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 22 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: These two stick in my throat too, forget the defending - how the fuck have they gone in? Jesus christ, goal scored in the 97th, Bazunu dives in the 98th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, Saint_clark said: Jesus christ, goal scored in the 97th, Bazunu dives in the 98th. Both goals were struck well, low, inside the box and were partially unsighted by other players legs. They were down to terrible marking more than anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Both goals were struck well, low, inside the box and were partially unsighted by other players legs. They were down to terrible marking more than anything. First goal bounced twice before it got past him, second bounced once. Hardly well struck. He doesn't have a goalkeepers instinct, end of. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 9 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: First goal bounced twice before it got past him, second bounced once. Hardly well struck. He doesn't have a goalkeepers instinct, end of. Again, pulling back to his age, how many do at that age? Obviously with the exception of those who go onto be world class keepers. I don't think anyone thinks Bazunu is good enough right now...I just think that by the time he's retired, he'll be remembered as a good keeper. Not great but good. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 3 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Again, pulling back to his age, how many do at that age? Obviously with the exception of those who go onto be world class keepers. I don't think anyone thinks Bazunu is good enough right now...I just think that by the time he's retired, he'll be remembered as a good keeper. Not great but good. That's all. So he should be playing in League One, that's his level. He might be 'good' one day, but why should we suffer him until then? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: So he should be playing in League One, that's his level. He might be 'good' one day, but why should we suffer him until then? No. I agree, a couple of years in League One would do him the world of good. As stated, he quite clearly is crap right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsBarry74 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Bazunu: Worst shot stopper on PL record in 22/23. Before his injury he was on track to achieve the same 'feat' in the Championship. Clearly not a natural keeper, he played outfield until late in his development, no genuine howlers just consistently poor shot-stopping (i.e. goalkeeping 101). Lumley: Worst shot stopper in the championship 22/23 out of 55 keepers! Generally quite shite, it’s baffling why we signed him. McCarthy: Not been the same since we got arse raped 0-9 against Man United. Average shot stopper, awful on his feet. We actually play really decent footy, why the fuck can't we find a competent goalkeeper? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: No. I agree, a couple of years in League One would do him the world of good. As stated, he quite clearly is crap right now. Makes a mockery of the fact he was signed for £12m to be our number 1 in the Premier League. We needed an improvement on McCarthy and somehow ended up with a downgrade. Poor signing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behind Enemy Lines Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 5 hours ago, BARCELONASAINT said: For gods sake can we stop with the who is the most shittiest keeper out of baz and McCarthy......the one thing we all agree on is neither is good enough for the Premiership and we desperately need a new keeper! For gods sake, can we stop with the Premiership. We aren’t in the Scottish league. We are Premier League. Well, for this year at least! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 It looked like the Chelsea keeper borrowed his gloves yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 16 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It looked like the Chelsea keeper borrowed his gloves yesterday. It's ok for them, they have another 7 to pick from whereas we have McCarthy or Lumley 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It looked like the Chelsea keeper borrowed his gloves yesterday. Sponsored by Lurpak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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