Gavin Bazunu

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 hours ago, The Cat said:

Solid game. Very good save in the first half and commanded his 6 yard box well. 

Whoever said McCarthy should be playing is so wrong it's laughable. Imagine him trying to play the ball out calmly like Bazunu did today.

There were a couple of those moments where your heart goes in your mouth as the ball is either underhit a little to the goalkeeper, or we've just invited too much pressure. He handled both very calmly. Since my heart was in my mouth, my natural reaction is that it was cleared too calmly, perhaps taking a risk, before realising that he knew what he was doing. 🙂 Yes, no doubt at some point we'll get caught doing it. But if it's very isolated, it's virtually nothing compared to all the times it starts off one of our attacks and helps keep the pressure on our opponents.

[Saint_clark]

Wonder if I'll still get attacked in this thread at full time today...

[Saint_clark]

On 23/08/2023 at 07:03, musesaint said:

Too bloody right!
 

We have one of the best keepers in the Championship but the haters cannot stop hating once they have selected their victim. 

 

On 23/08/2023 at 07:13, AlexLaw76 said:

What have you got to back that claim up? 

 

On 23/08/2023 at 07:20, Nolan said:

Estimated Market Values?

 

😂😂😂😂😂

[James]

Calling @Whitey Grandad to defend the third goal. 

[trousers]

Just now, James said:

Calling @Whitey Grandad to defend the third goal. 

Rob Earnshaw on Sky giving him some benefit of the doubt... "Was partially unsighted and had one eye on the run of Bellingham on his right hand side and was half expecting a cross"

[Saint_clark]

Just now, trousers said:

Rob Earnshaw on Sky giving him some benefit of the doubt... "Was partially unsighted and had one eye on the run of Bellingham on his right hand side and was half expecting a cross"

So essentially, he was trying to do a goalkeepers job and failed. Righto.

He wasn't unsighted at all anyway, the angle from behind the shot showed how early he could see the ball. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

 Can you update the shots on target per goal data? 

[Lord Duckhunter]

Whitey will be blaming Stephens for the third, where was the closing down. Typical Jack, nowhere to be seen. 

[James]

Just now, Saint_clark said:

So essentially, he was trying to do a goalkeepers job and failed. Righto.

He wasn't unsighted at all anyway, the angle from behind the shot showed how early he could see the ball. 

It's utter bollocks. He got down to the but it went under his arm. It's just poor technique. 

[Saint_clark]

1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

 Can you update the shots on target per goal data? 

At full time, too depressed right now.

[Luke SkyWalker-Peters]

He had a poor preseason but has been OK in the actual games before today. Honestly felt the defence had let him down and he had conceded some excellent finishes.

It was obvious that RM was going to like him as he is very good at doing the things a keeper can to stop shots in the first place (good with the ball, off his line and collecting crosses) and his shot stopping had been OK before today.

However, very poor so far today. Looks extremely lacking in confidence, especially in that parry on the freekick. He looks like he did at his worst last season again.

Seems to be a young player that needs confidence, but he doesn't have any.

I assume RM will believe the solution is to stick with him and build his confidence.

[FarehamSaintJames]

Clark is one of those that clearly gets off to proving people wrong, even if it means the team plays shit as a result. 😂

[hypochondriac]

9 minutes ago, James said:

Calling @Whitey Grandad to defend the third goal. 

Bazunu is shite. He's always been shite, you don't need stats or anything else to show that. 

[Saint Scott]

Wrong thread

Edited 2 September, 2023 by Saint Scott

[Smirking_Saint]

At fault for the third but its not a horrendous error, the critique of that is just overly biased

He’s been largely ok this season, if you’re going to blame him for that you have to look at the four (?) players around Ekwe (sp) that failed to cut or block the shot

[Turkish]

Just now, Smirking_Saint said:

At fault for the third but its not a horrendous error, the critique of that is just overly biased

He’s been largely ok this season, if you’re going to blame him for that you have to look at the four (?) players around Ekwe (sp) that failed to cut or block the shot

It might be biased but it’s based on him rarely saving anything on target 

[Lord Duckhunter]

Just now, Smirking_Saint said:

At fault for the third but its not a horrendous error, 

It was. 
 

Every single fucking week there’s excuses made for him. We binned off Gunn  who was nowhere near as bad. 

[Smirking_Saint]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It might be biased but it’s based on him rarely saving anything on target 

Fair point 😂

[Smirking_Saint]

1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

It was. 
 

Every single fucking week there’s excuses made for him. We binned off Gunn  who was nowhere near as bad. 

It wasn’t

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, Smirking_Saint said:

It wasn’t

He's just a crap keeper. You very rarely see him make saves that he isn't supposed to make and on occasion he will fail to make saves that he should make. He doesn't inspire confidence, he isn't a leader or an organiser he's just not good enough. 

[Smirking_Saint]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

He's just a crap keeper. You very rarely see him make saves that he isn't supposed to make and on occasion he will fail to make saves that he should make. He doesn't inspire confidence, he isn't a leader or an organiser he's just not good enough. 

I agree he isn’t good enough, and he doesn’t have competition which doesn’t help

But I feel he does get overly slated at times, and that third goal IMHO wasn’t a ‘huge’ error

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, Smirking_Saint said:

I agree he isn’t good enough, and he doesn’t have competition which doesn’t help

But I feel he does get overly slated at times, and that third goal IMHO wasn’t a ‘huge’ error

We can nitpick over individual goals or saves but taken together in its entirety he just isn't a good enough keeper. Nothing we can do now but I just wish we had been a bit more ruthless. 

[Smirking_Saint]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

We can nitpick over individual goals or saves but taken together in its entirety he just isn't a good enough keeper. Nothing we can do now but I just wish we had been a bit more ruthless. 

Yeah probably, unfortunately however decided to sign McCarthy up (Semmens) on increased wages messed up any flexibility we had there

Bazunu needed to be the backup really… but nobody wanted McCarthy who is somehow worse

[sydney_saint]

There is a real possibility we will go into the International break with the most goals conceded in the Championship. We finished last season with the second most conceded goals in the Prem. Of course it's not all his fault, but there are defenders in front of him that can be decent with a decent keeper behind him. Of course not every goal is his fault. I feel now analysing every goal is now redundant, as every stat over the long run (and also the eye test), he has heavily underperformed. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

I’d want my keeper saving the 5th as well 

[The Kraken]

Bazunu seems very good at getting his hands to shots and not keeping them out of the goal.

[Saint Matty 76]

I fully give up on him now.

I wanted to come into this season and give him an opportunity, was spurred on by Martin's comments but he is the same flappy goalkeeper who SO rarely makes an unexpected save to tip things in your favour. 

Two absolute howlers today, another from the free-kick that wasn't punished and maybe even the first two a competent goalkeeper does better with? My expectations are now so low that I'm willing to let the iffy ones slide.

Go throw everything at Kasper Schmeichel. Bazunu will cost us time and time again.

[aintforever]

That header shouldn’t go in. 

[SambaMaverick]

2 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Yeah probably, unfortunately however decided to sign McCarthy up (Semmens) on increased wages messed up any flexibility we had there

Bazunu needed to be the backup really… but nobody wanted McCarthy who is somehow worse

I'm sorry but money is not the issue here. We've just raised how much? Not getting someone else in could cost us promotion, now THAT would be a financial fuck up.

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, James said:

Calling @Whitey Grandad to defend the third goal. 

It’s not for  me to defend it. That’s for the other ten outfield players on the pitch.

[Griffo]

He was the number 1 reason for our relegation in my opinion and the failure to replace him is criminal. He’s made of fucking weetabix.

[sfc4prem]

He is porous. He has a particular ability to make the goal look absolutely massive, and his wrists are made of fucking crisp packets. The bread and butter of goalkeepers is made to seem like rocket science by this young man.

[Smirking_Saint]

8 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

I'm sorry but money is not the issue here. We've just raised how much? Not getting someone else in could cost us promotion, now THAT would be a financial fuck up.

Money will always be the issue, we aren’t going to carry 3 keeper on 30k+ wages

[SambaMaverick]

Just now, Smirking_Saint said:

Money will always be the issue, we aren’t going to carry 3 keeper on 30k+ wages

We ain't going up then

[BotleySaint]

Lumley in for the next one. Bazunu needs a break. 

[SaintsBarry74]

Worst goal keeper Ive seen relative to the level played, I think only Leicester city's Danny Ward comes close.

[James]

54 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

It’s not for  me to defend it. That’s for the other ten outfield players on the pitch.

Classic. No engagement with Bazunu's glaring faults as usual. 

[saintant]

50 minutes ago, Griffo said:

He was the number 1 reason for our relegation in my opinion and the failure to replace him is criminal. He’s made of fucking weetabix.

I think if an x-ray was made of his wrists it would show no bones.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

I think we have to face reality that we aren't getting anywhere near automatic promotion with Baz in goal.

[Osvaldorama]

Can’t make a save, and when he does he parries it straight to the middle of the box to a waiting striker. 
 

I can’t believe we are persisting with him. Suicide

[Whitey Grandad]

1 minute ago, James said:

Classic. No engagement with Bazunu's glaring faults as usual. 

Dickhead.

Your obsession has caused you to miss the most glaring aspect of today’s game which is that there was no defence in front of him. It wouldn’t have mattered who we had in goal with those strangers out there. The bestest keeper in the world ever might have kept the score down to three and we would only have lost 3-0. 

The defence is the problem. That’s an order of magnitude greater than any goalkeeper we might use.

Or was it my fault that those goals went in? Just because I don’t belong to the ‘Bazunu is a clown’ religion doesn’t mean that I think he’s the best thing since sliced bread..

And there were no ‘glaring faults’ today apart from the absence of any coherent defence in front of him.

[James]

6 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Dickhead.

Your obsession has caused you to miss the most glaring aspect of today’s game which is that there was no defence in front of him. It wouldn’t have mattered who we had in goal with those strangers out there. The bestest keeper in the world ever might have kept the score down to three and we would only have lost 3-0. 

The defence is the problem. That’s an order of magnitude greater than any goalkeeper we might use.

Or was it my fault that those goals went in? Just because I don’t belong to the ‘Bazunu is a clown’ religion doesn’t mean that I think he’s the best thing since sliced bread..

And there were no ‘glaring faults’ today apart from the absence of any coherent defence in front of him.

Right, so your argument is that it's the defence's job to make sure he doesn't ever have to make a save? Baz's clanger came at a key moment and made sure we went in 3-0 down. Of the saves he did make, it's good fortune that those didn't result in goals as he just patted it straight back to an oncoming attacker. Had the defence not been quick to the clearance it would have been 7-0 so it's really swings and roundabouts isn't it?

Re "no glaring faults" if your view is that a competent keeper doesn't save number 3 then your standards for keepers must be seriously low. 

By the way, I'm not arguing the defence is any good but that doesn't excuse Baz's clear faults.

Edited 2 September, 2023 by James

[Harry_SFC]

I think you'd expect Bazunu to save a couple of those goals today. Worst game of the season for him. The defending though was absolutely atrocious. That first goal was hilariously bad. 

[Jimbo]

Just seen the goals. All terrible. Defence a shambles. Marking is abysmal.

Bazunu has perfected the art of looking busy whilst getting nowhere near some saveable shots, diving over/under the ball etc. Reminds me of Gazzaniga.

1st goal - should have saved it. Goes right past him. 

2nd goal - benefit of the doubt due to deflection

3rd goal - should never have been beaten at the near post from there

4th goal - not his fault

5th goal - should be saving that

 

[Whitey Grandad]

6 minutes ago, James said:

Right, so your argument is that it's the defence's job to make sure he doesn't ever have to make a save? Baz's clanger came at a key moment and made sure we went in 3-0 down. Of the saves he did make, it's good fortune that those didn't result in goals as he just patted it straight back to an oncoming attacker. Had the defence not been quick to the clearance it would have been 7-0 so it's really swings and roundabouts isn't it?

Re "no glaring faults" if your view is that a competent keeper doesn't save number 3 then your standards for keepers must be seriously low. 

By the way, I'm not arguing the defence is any good but that doesn't excuse Baz's clear faults.

The defence’s job is exact that. To get in the way of attackers, to make it difficult for them to get a shot away and in particular to challenge for headers. I saw none of that today. Their third that you’re so annoyed about would have beaten most keepers.

I get far more annoyed about the non-existent defence than anything else. Put any other goalkeeper in their and the result would have been little different.

[Whitey Grandad]

3 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

Just seen the goals. All terrible. Defence a shambles. Marking is abysmal.

Bazunu has perfected the art of looking busy whilst getting nowhere near some saveable shots, diving over/under the ball etc. Reminds me of Gazzaniga.

1st goal - should have saved it. Goes right past him. 

2nd goal - benefit of the doubt due to deflection

3rd goal - should never have been beaten at the near post from there

4th goal - not his fault

5th goal - should be saving that

 

And exactly how should he have done that?

[James]

Just now, Whitey Grandad said:

The defence’s job is exact that. To get in the way of attackers, to make it difficult for them to get a shot away and in particular to challenge for headers. I saw none of that today. Their third that you’re so annoyed about would have beaten most keepers.

I get far more annoyed about the non-existent defence than anything else. Put any other goalkeeper in their and the result would have been little different.

Completely disagree on the third goal. No competent keeper gets beaten at their near post by a shot like that. 

That aside, I agree with you the defence is non existent and that we would still have lost with a different keeper.

That said, I have no confidence in Baz generally. To win promotion you need some performances from a keeper and I don't see Baz capable of keeping us in tight games. 

[ashnats]

Saved us today from an even worse humiliation, so that will shut up some of the doubters, probably the only positive of a dire performance by the defence. Missed Stephens at the back, hopefully the new lad will be better than the Everton reject.

[James]

Just now, ashnats said:

Saved us today from an even worse humiliation, so that will shut up some of the doubters, probably the only positive of a dire performance by the defence. Missed Stephens at the back, hopefully the new lad will be better than the Everton reject.

Not really. His parries into the danger zone could easily have cost us another couple more.

[bpsaint]

A decent keeper will inspire the defence in front of him and contribute to the overall performance of the back 5. It must be going through the minds of the back line that they need to protect wafer hands as most shots will result in a goal.

I’m fucking baffled that someone (RM) who seems so meticulous on possession and defending did not see that Baz was a major issue coming into the season. Honestly it’s a level of incompetence that deserves interference from the board to do something about it.

The whole result isn’t entirely on him of course, we’re not looking for a scapegoat, but 3 goals could have been saved today, and that ball should not be palmed back into play as much as it is.

he might be a good keeper in 5 or so years time, but I’ve said it before and I’ll stick but it - we will not get promoted with Baz as our number 1

Edited 2 September, 2023 by bpsaint