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Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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  On 15/08/2023 at 19:23, Galway saint said:

As you know I’ve been one of bazanu’s biggest supporters this season but I agree it’s odd that no one in the club seems to think this needs addressing. The fact he was dropped last season shows they thought there was a problem then and the only thing that seemingly saved him was the fact his replacement was even worse. Suppose we will see what happens if they shift McCarthy 

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Whatever anyone might think about the signing of Bazunu the far greater mystery has to be the contract extension for McCarthy.

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Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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  On 15/08/2023 at 19:44, Lord Duckhunter said:

McCarthy is perfectly adequate as a number 2 for a club in our position. The problem is the number 1 is shite. If Peter Shilton was in nets, nobody would give a shiny that McCarthy was back up. 

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Having watched McCarthy on Tuesday night against League Two opposition I'm not sure I agree. 

kjurwi

kjurwi

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I honestly think Bazunu will be great for us in the championship. None of the goals we have conceded in the championship the first 2 games has been his fault, and he can't be expected to save any of the goals we conceded (it would have been a bonus if he did),  and he has been brilliant in the build up play.

Our defenders hasn't defended properly. 

Has a mistake in him but he is very young and will learn and i think he will learn fast and have a very good season. 

I still wouldn't mind buying another goalkeeper though to compete more. McCarthy really stinks.

SNSUN

SNSUN

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  On 15/08/2023 at 22:11, davefizzy14 said:

I thought RM did what a good manager does and back Bazanu with his comments tonight at the forum. Bazanu will grow this season in my opinion and be great for us :)

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And if not, there's another transfer window in January! 😜

St. Ciervo

St. Ciervo

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  On 15/08/2023 at 18:46, SambaMaverick said:

RM said Bazunu is first choice, McCarthy second choice and Lumley third choice. His words, not anyone elses - and he was quite adamant in doing so. Why?

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Because our goalie is low on confidence. He needs backing, and the manager is giving it to him with a clear statement like that. As an ex-tender, I appreciate it really.

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Smirking_Saint

Smirking_Saint

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  On 15/08/2023 at 19:23, Galway saint said:

As you know I’ve been one of bazanu’s biggest supporters this season but I agree it’s odd that no one in the club seems to think this needs addressing. The fact he was dropped last season shows they thought there was a problem then and the only thing that seemingly saved him was the fact his replacement was even worse. Suppose we will see what happens if they shift McCarthy 

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I would imagine its got something to do with the fact he is probably the best distributor, as far as a GK is concerned, in the league.
 

In a similar vein to how City are happy with Ederson who ranks around mid table from a shot save percentage, we are happy to retain Baz in goal.. mainly because his ability on the ball is far more important to us tactically, then having a goalkeeper that is better at shot stopping, then he is with the ball at his feet

Statistics count, data counts, and realistically we should be able to reduce the shots he faces, whilst maximising our build up play.

I think Bazunu is a good, young goalkeeper, my concern is I do think his confidence is low, so I absolutely applaud Russell and Jasons unequivocal support of him… do I think that he needs competition ? 100%… McCarthy doesn’t really work in any sense, because frankly he isn’t good enough at football basics to enable the detriment to our tactical approach

Overall the hysterics over Bazunu on this forum is laughable, because again RM was 100% correct.. tactics and outfield players cost us 4 goals on Saturday.. not Bazunu

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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  On 16/08/2023 at 09:31, Smirking_Saint said:

I would imagine its got something to do with the fact he is probably the best distributor, as far as a GK is concerned, in the league.
 

In a similar vein to how City are happy with Ederson who ranks around mid table from a shot save percentage, we are happy to retain Baz in goal.. mainly because his ability on the ball is far more important to us tactically, then having a goalkeeper that is better at shot stopping, then he is with the ball at his feet

Statistics count, data counts, and realistically we should be able to reduce the shots he faces, whilst maximising our build up play.

I think Bazunu is a good, young goalkeeper, my concern is I do think his confidence is low, so I absolutely applaud Russell and Jasons unequivocal support of him… do I think that he needs competition ? 100%… McCarthy doesn’t really work in any sense, because frankly he isn’t good enough at football basics to enable the detriment to our tactical approach

Overall the hysterics over Bazunu on this forum is laughable, because again RM was 100% correct.. tactics and outfield players cost us 4 goals on Saturday.. not Bazunu

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He was proven to not only be the worst keeper last season, but one of the worst ever in the Premier League era over a full season. That is more than having a crap defence in front of him.

He has been awful for Saints so far, and it remains to be seen whether he will step up and not only make routine save after routine save, but be the odd match winner that is required for promotion more often than not

 

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Smirking_Saint

Smirking_Saint

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  On 16/08/2023 at 09:35, AlexLaw76 said:

He was proven to not only be the worst keeper last season, but one of the worst ever in the Premier League era over a full season. That is more than having a crap defence in front of him.

He has been awful for Saints so far, and it remains to be seen whether he will step up and not only make routine save after routine save, but be the odd match winner that is required for promotion more often than not

 

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He was poor last year, was replaced by McCarthy who was even worse

This is a new season, with new tactics at a new level

He’s openly backed by footballing minds much brighter than us, time to get behind them

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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  On 16/08/2023 at 09:40, Smirking_Saint said:

He was poor last year, was replaced by McCarthy who was even worse

This is a new season, with new tactics at a new level

He’s openly backed by footballing minds much brighter than us, time to get behind them

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Nathan Jones was openly backed by football mind brighter than us at SFC......

Lets see.

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SambaMaverick

SambaMaverick

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Already has the worst save percentage (28.6%) and has let in 0.8 more goals than he should have according to the stats - small sample size I know.

Interesting background to go along with the eye test and I also like posting it because it winds Grandad up. 

Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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The Bazunu cheerleaders getting excited about Martin and Wilcox's endorsement seem to be missing the point.  If the panel were to be asked about any individual young player they would respond in a similar way - what else can they do? He is Wilcox's former academy player and currently Russell Martin's Hobson's choice on the back of a terrible relegation season in terms of defence.  If they had questioned his overall ability at a public forum their managerial acumen would be rightly questioned.  He's an expensive young prospect with potential, learning his trade and currently playing under pressure, which he deserves credit for. 

The later question to Martin about revealing the player with the highest work ethic raised his eyebrows and was rightly dismissed and skirted, but if that question had been raised about an individual currently featuring in the first team, what do you think the response would be?  "Can Jason and Russell say whether we are going to sign an experienced winger to replace Sam Edozie as he has been rather inconsistent?"

Martin, Mowbray and Wilcox aren't daft and they will be trying to offload the expensive and disinterested McCarthy.  His replacement will provide necessary competition for GB and some insurance in case the Bazunu cheerleaders are proved wrong and the doubters are proved right.  In the meantime fans should keep saying what they see, for and against, regardless of what the manager says - that's football!   

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Barsiem

Barsiem

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  On 16/08/2023 at 10:12, SambaMaverick said:

Already has the worst save percentage (28.6%) and has let in 0.8 more goals than he should have according to the stats - small sample size I know.

Interesting background to go along with the eye test and I also like posting it because it winds Grandad up. 

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He hasn't been at fault for any goals yet, so the stats are misleading at this point.  He obviously did have a howler against Norwich which was fortunately disallowed, as well as a couple in preseason.  I do think we need better, but seems that won't be happening 

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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  On 16/08/2023 at 10:25, Barsiem said:

He hasn't been at fault for any goals yet, so the stats are misleading at this point.  He obviously did have a howler against Norwich which was fortunately disallowed, as well as a couple in preseason.  

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Oh, that’s alright then. They’re only friendlies & disallowed howlers, nothing to worry about. 
 

A decent keeper doesn’t let 4 in Sat imo. He gets players picked up, he has better positioning for the first, he fucking leaves Manning in no doubt that the ball needs hoofing into row Z., and here’s  a new one for Baz, he fucking saves efforts when you think they’re going in. 

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Fan The Flames

Fan The Flames

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  On 16/08/2023 at 12:33, Lord Duckhunter said:

Oh, that’s alright then. They’re only friendlies & disallowed howlers, nothing to worry about. 
 

A decent keeper doesn’t let 4 in Sat imo. He gets players picked up, he has better positioning for the first, he fucking leaves Manning in no doubt that the ball needs hoofing into row Z., and here’s  a new one for Baz, he fucking saves efforts when you think they’re going in. 

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Sorry mate you're disqualified from this topic for using the bantz term 'in nets'.

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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  On 16/08/2023 at 12:33, Lord Duckhunter said:

Oh, that’s alright then. They’re only friendlies & disallowed howlers, nothing to worry about. 
 

A decent keeper doesn’t let 4 in Sat imo. He gets players picked up, he has better positioning for the first, he fucking leaves Manning in no doubt that the ball needs hoofing into row Z., and here’s  a new one for Baz, he fucking saves efforts when you think they’re going in. 

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Pony. Giant pony.

If you are honestly blaming him for any of those goals then you are on a troll hunt.

Manning needed a shout from his goalie ???

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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  On 16/08/2023 at 10:12, SambaMaverick said:

Already has the worst save percentage (28.6%) and has let in 0.8 more goals than he should have according to the stats - small sample size I know.

Interesting background to go along with the eye test and I also like posting it because it winds Grandad up. 

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Thanks for that. If you’re quoting irrelevant statistics again then there’s no hope for you. We know that they’re irrelevant because we’ve all seen what happened.

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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  On 16/08/2023 at 17:05, Lord Duckhunter said:

Yes, and than needed  a fucking great bollocking if he didn’t do it. What did our soft arsed keeper do. Said fuck all, and then fucking cuddled him. 

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If you scream enough at the defender responsible, the referee will disallow the goal. True story.

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Dman

Dman

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  On 16/08/2023 at 12:33, Lord Duckhunter said:

Oh, that’s alright then. They’re only friendlies & disallowed howlers, nothing to worry about. 
 

A decent keeper doesn’t let 4 in Sat imo. He gets players picked up, he has better positioning for the first, he fucking leaves Manning in no doubt that the ball needs hoofing into row Z., and here’s  a new one for Baz, he fucking saves efforts when you think they’re going in. 

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In fairness Manning was litterally facing the striker and could have done anything but pass it straight too him. Noone to blame but manning there 

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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  On 16/08/2023 at 17:46, Dman said:

In fairness Manning was litterally facing the striker and could have done anything but pass it straight too him. Noone to blame but manning there 

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Yep. That one was all on Manning. He tried to play the ball with his right foot. The one he never uses.

Galway saint

Galway saint

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I really think we have done this to death. General consensus is he’s not great, might be all right in the future ( personally I think he will never be anything special) , but we are stuck with him for the foreseeable as the alternatives are even worse and the club have now publicly backed him 

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Guest

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If he was going to be replaced it should’ve been in January where we clearly needed a leader with experience in goal. The club chose not to.

Yea, he wasn’t great last season but then again no one was. A ninety-year old could’ve walked through that defence and midfield last season.

This season so far he has looked excellent when playing the ball out and looks confident. None of the goals we’ve conceded have been his fault so far this season, nor was there much he could’ve done to keep them out.

RM has given his backing.

Time for everyone else to do the same. My concern is if he gets injured and the turnstile remains as his number two.

This entire topic has been flogged to death now. 😂

Saint Matty 76

Saint Matty 76

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Nothing he could do today about the goal mind, and he also was pretty convincing with a lot of balls into the box at the end of the game.

Been plenty of opportunity to criticise but absolutely none today.

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Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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  On 19/08/2023 at 14:04, Lord Duckhunter said:

“Class” , as in doing what I’d expect every single keeper at this level to do. 

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Maybe class compared to what we are used to seeing from last season. 

Whatever you think of him, you can't have any complaints about his performances so far this season. 

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ecuk268

ecuk268

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Whatever the views on here Russell Martin made clear at the Fans Forum that he will be first choice.

He also said that, if he was up for sale, he would have bought him.

ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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  On 19/08/2023 at 16:07, Saint_clark said:

Because it's easier to keep track of it that way than trying to look it up halfway through the season. 

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It’s no though is it. You can look it up at any point. You’re just posting it as some weird way to knock Bazunu when he hasn’t done anything wrong. Weird support.

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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  On 19/08/2023 at 16:07, Saint_clark said:

Because it's easier to keep track of it that way than trying to look it up halfway through the season. 

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The only goal he conceded today was from a winger losing his man and putting in an uncontested cross, which was slammed in from 8 yards by another man who lost his marker. The fact that you would then update us all with that statistic just shows how much bullsh*t it (and that nonsense about being the worst ever keeper in the Premier League) really is for assessing a players performance.

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