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Ed Rooney

Ed Rooney

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Just now, Galway saint said:

Yes but it’s a keepers job to make saves and statistically he doesn’t make enough of those to offset all the gaffs 

And it’s a defenders job to defend and a midfielders job to create and a strikers job to score and statistically none of our outfield players do enough of that so just get rid of the lot of them 

Ed Rooney

Ed Rooney

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1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

So far this pre-season, yes. 

What a load of tosh, so none of the goals were poor marking, poor tracking back, giving the ball away stupidly and being punished 

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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5 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said:

This

Has pulled off two fantastic saves pre season, one an absolute world class save… criticism comes to him very very quickly and praise is very rare. He’s still so young in particular for a keeper. 

 

 

He constantly makes mistakes a schoolboy keeper would be annoyed about.

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Saint Matty 76

Saint Matty 76

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Just now, Ed Rooney said:

What a load of tosh, so none of the goals were poor marking, poor tracking back, giving the ball away stupidly and being punished 

Things can be both. 

The defending was poor but if you want to stay up/get promoted your Goalkeeper cannot be making a howler a game which typically results in a goal. We all know it's the least forgiving position in the game.

We need an experienced goalkeeper. He is not ready.

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Just now, Ed Rooney said:

And it’s a defenders job to defend and a midfielders job to create and a strikers job to score and statistically none of our outfield players do enough of that so just get rid of the lot of them 

 

 

Just now, Ed Rooney said:

What a load of tosh, so none of the goals were poor marking, poor tracking back, giving the ball away stupidly and being punished 

Listen, you're not wrong. But the point is that the one position in the team that should always be as dependable as possible is goalkeeper, because you can't afford to take risks. Everyone else in the team has someone else to fall back on - except the keeper. It's why going for youthful promise coupled with inexperience was suicidal when so many experienced heads were available, and in my opinion is the single greatest contributor to our relegation, to the extent that just changing that one signing I believe would have kept us up. 

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Ed Rooney

Ed Rooney

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Just now, Wade Garrett said:

If you’re calling sticking your leg out a fantastic save you’re very easily pleased.

😂😂😂😂 now I truly know you haven’t got a fuckin clue what your talking about 

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Just now, HKsaint said:

Bazunu is the main cause of our relegation. 

I agree, feels like it's an unpopular thing to say because nobody likes to pin it on one person, team game etc etc but I honestly believe we'd have stayed up with Leno, Navas, Henderson etc. 

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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1 minute ago, Ed Rooney said:

He is gonna be a top class keeper - no doubt would have been afforded much more patience if he came through the academy. 

But he didn't, he was our first choice keeper signing costing more than Nick Pope did for Newcastle. 

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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2 minutes ago, HKsaint said:

Bazunu is the main cause of our relegation. 

 

1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

I agree, feels like it's an unpopular thing to say because nobody likes to pin it on one person, team game etc etc but I honestly believe we'd have stayed up with Leno, Navas, Henderson etc. 

Yeah, all those games where Moi, AA, Che and Onuachu were slamming in goals but we lost 4-3 because of Baz really cost us.

Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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5 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said:

😂😂😂😂 now I truly know you haven’t got a fuckin clue what your talking about 

I’ve forgotten more about goalkeeping than you know.

Ed Rooney

Ed Rooney

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Just now, Saint_clark said:

But he didn't, he was our first choice keeper signing costing more than Nick Pope did for Newcastle. 

Nick Pope would never have chosen us over Newcastle 

Ed Rooney

Ed Rooney

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Just now, Wade Garrett said:

I’ve forgotten more about goalkeeping than you know.

😂😂😂😂 yeah ok then, sorry but your just sticking out leg comment provided enough evidence. Ignore list 

Galway saint

Galway saint

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2 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said:

He is gonna be a top class keeper - no doubt would have been afforded much more patience if he came through the academy. 

Perhaps he will and perhaps he won’t.   None of us can say but hopefully we can all agree he’s currently not a top class keeper and was way off that level last season and in pre season. You can’t have a shit keeper and be successful so if we want to be promoted we need a new and experienced keeper 

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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1 minute ago, Ed Rooney said:

You made the comparison 

No he said he cost more than Bazunu which he did. Plenty of more experienced and better keepers we could have signed that weren't Bazunu. 

Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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1 minute ago, Ed Rooney said:

😂😂😂😂 yeah ok then, sorry but your just sticking out leg comment provided enough evidence. Ignore list 

Fucking gutted that somebody whose football experience is playing for a half-decent tyro side has put me on ignore.

Devastated, won’t be able to sleep tonight.

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

 

Yeah, all those games where Moi, AA, Che and Onuachu were slamming in goals but we lost 4-3 because of Baz really cost us.

I reckon he easily cost us 10 points last season with the mistakes he made. We finished 11 points behind. 

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Ed Rooney

Ed Rooney

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5 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Fucking gutted that somebody whose football experience is playing for a half-decent tyro side has put me on ignore.

Devastated, won’t be able to sleep tonight.

😂😂😂😂😂😂 again no clue have you 

Ed Rooney

Ed Rooney

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5 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Fucking gutted that somebody whose football experience is playing for a half-decent tyro side has put me on ignore.

Devastated, won’t be able to sleep tonight.

The fact you’ve referred to the tyro league when talking about football quality made me spit my coffee out. Well done 👏 

Ed Rooney

Ed Rooney

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6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

No he said he cost more than Bazunu which he did. Plenty of more experienced and better keepers we could have signed that weren't Bazunu. 

Who cost more than Bazunu ? 
Who could we have signed ? 

Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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Just now, Ed Rooney said:

The fact you’ve referred to the tyro league when talking about football quality made me spit my coffee out. Well done 👏 

Talking about your football quality.

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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He’s been fucking pony since he got here. I’m amazed there’s people sticking up for him. He’s an international keeper not some young kid out of the youth game, he lets too many in that he should save, it’s as simple as that. 

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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Just now, Ed Rooney said:

Who cost more than Bazunu ? 
Who could we have signed ? 

I meant more than Pope. 

 

This question has been asked and answered a ton. Do you not think we coukd have signed anyone else? Did other teams around us make a gk signing in the summer and survive? 

Ed Rooney

Ed Rooney

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

I meant more than Pope. 

 

This question has been asked and answered a ton. Do you not think we coukd have signed anyone else? Did other teams around us make a gk signing in the summer and survive? 

You said we could have signed  better more experienced keeper so i asked you who 

egg

egg

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12 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

 

Yeah, all those games where Moi, AA, Che and Onuachu were slamming in goals but we lost 4-3 because of Baz really cost us.

We wouldn't have been so far behind if we had a better keeper, and the players would have had something to actually play for. Who knows how things would have ended, but we'd have been in with a fighting chance of staying up if we had a goalkeeper capable of keeping goal. 

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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2 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said:

You said we could have signed  better more experienced keeper so i asked you who 

Take your pick. To choose two at random, last year I'd have preferred Neto and Navas to Bazunu in goal. 

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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Just now, Ed Rooney said:

If Che didn’t miss on the wolves goal line amongst many other chances, if our other strikers scored the chances they had would we have stayed up ? 

That doesn’t mean we have to accept a sub standard keeper in nets. The team was woeful & he was one of the worst. He wouldn’t have been anywhere near any other premier league starting 11, he’s not good enough. And from what we’ve seen so far this season, he doesn’t look good enough for the championship either. 

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egg

egg

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Just now, Ed Rooney said:

If Che didn’t miss on the wolves goal line amongst many other chances, if our other strikers scored the chances they had would we have stayed up ? 

Put yourself in the position of che or any other outfield player last season knowing that whatever they did, Baz would likely mess up at the other end. It was evident last season that the defence had little confidence in Baz, and that will have spread across the pitch. The impact of a poor goalkeeper who costs goals and points is a hell of a lot more than just the goals conceded. 

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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Just now, Ed Rooney said:

You pissed or something, you said you know who I am apparently and I said you clearly don’t 

I clearly do.  Height of your career was City Rangers 😂😂

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Badger

Badger

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2 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Leno at Fulham for one. 

Good option had we explored it.

Possibly Sam Johnstone as well. Unspectacular perhaps, but probably more solid and reliable over the course of a season than a 19 year old. 

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egg

egg

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1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

The USA keeper at Arsenal. Way too good to be a number 2

Yep, and Chelsea's 3rd keeper, Bettinelli would have improved us considerably. 

Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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Last season we conceded 73 goals in the league and good many of these were down to having Bazunu and McCarthy as our first team keepers.  No team in the Championship conceded that many despite playing eight more games, so we need a rather stark improvement defensively to be competitive. 

At the end of last season I thought goalkeeper needed to be a priority position for this summer, and a good indicator of Sport Republic's pledge to learn from their mistake in using Saints as a work experience project - a canary in the coalmine.  I am hopeful that having come in recently Wilcox and Martin are now aware of our frailty and will seek funds to address it before the close of the window, a more pragmatic approach to Ankersen's vanity in avoiding the obvious. 

Bazunu is a youngster, and if the club think he's a prospect genuine support for him would be to either protect him within the first team squad as number two to a solid experienced mentor, or loan in out to build confidence and technique.  Top level keepers need confidence, craft, and physical strength / presence and currently GB appears to be lacking all three.  These attributes might come in time but ideally we need them there when we kick off against Sheffield Wednesday in less than two weeks or very soon afterwards.         

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