Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 December, 2023 Share Posted 27 December, 2023 Defo improving, he hasn’t cost us points since Watford 3 games ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 27 December, 2023 Share Posted 27 December, 2023 7 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Defo improving, he hasn’t cost us points since Watford 3 games ago. He's not the finished article and not a brilliant goal keeper - never will be imo. However, he's a massive part in us being able to play out from the back. He is brilliant with the ball at his feet and so comfortable under pressure. He's also commanding his box a lot more. Taking a load more crosses into the box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 December, 2023 Share Posted 27 December, 2023 10 minutes ago, Dman said: He's not the finished article and not a brilliant goal keeper - never will be imo. However, he's a massive part in us being able to play out from the back. He is brilliant with the ball at his feet and so comfortable under pressure. He's also commanding his box a lot more. Taking a load more crosses into the box. Yeah, he does contribute to our passing game , and is getting better (he couldn’t get much worse). But personally, I’d like a larger run of games without letting soft ones in before I start worrying whether we’ll keep hold of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Ciervo Posted 28 December, 2023 Share Posted 28 December, 2023 (edited) Yeah, yeah, yeah... You don't like him. We have heard your insufferable opinion plenty over the past 34 pages, Eeyore. He has been playing top-quality football for the better part of the season, and all I hear is, "Last year...blah blah blah." Last year was a wreck from the goal box to the owner's box. The fact that his confidence is in tact speaks for how strong this kid is mentally. And, my god, he is getting better by the day. Get off his back and go be miserable elsewhere. Try to enjoy our run while it lasts, even if that is against your nature. Edited 28 December, 2023 by St. Ciervo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 28 December, 2023 Share Posted 28 December, 2023 14 minutes ago, St. Ciervo said: Yeah, yeah, yeah... You don't like him. We have heard your insufferable opinion plenty over the past 34 pages, Eeyore. He has been playing top-quality football for the better part of the season, and all I hear is, "Last year...blah blah blah." Last year was a wreck from the goal box to the owner's box. The fact that his confidence is in tact speaks for how strong this kid is mentally. And, my god, he is getting better by the day. Get off his back and go be miserable elsewhere. Try to enjoy our run while it lasts, even if that is against your nature. “Past performance is no guarantee of future performance” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 This useless cunt needs to be a million miles away from the first team. 1 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block41 Saint Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Add that one to the list of howlers since he's joined. He's improved but for the money, he's still a bang average Championship keeper. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 That was stupid of him tonight. But he wasn't alone in making daft errors (Shay.....) It didn't effect the result, it must not be something used to beat him with in the context of his clear and evident improvement. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 9 minutes ago, sambosa75 said: This useless cunt needs to be a million miles away from the first team. Bit harsh but you do have to worry he might seriously cost us with one of these fuck ups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Brain fart, move on. Even Allison has made similar gaffs. It happens. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Everyone is talking about a decent goalscorer but i'd be shopping for a better keeper too. It's such an important position and his brain farts may cost us badly in the crunch games as we get to the sharp end of the season. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 It’ll happen with the way we play. It’s high risk stuff at times from Baz, Bednarek and THB right in front of the goal inviting forwards to press and then moving it on just as they arrive. We do need to learn when to punt it on occasion IMO and it meant unnecessary pressure at the end of the game but it’s clearly something we’ll keep doing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 (edited) Wasn't a great back pass from Stephens in the first place IMO - It wasn't along the ground, which gave Bazunu something extra to worry about, and there were also other options than passing back to a keeper who had the opposition breathing down his throat, especially given we were already in injury time. Edited 29 December, 2023 by trousers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Shit happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 20 minutes ago, stknowle said: Bit harsh but you do have to worry he might seriously cost us with one of these fuck ups. It’s a matter of time before he does. His feet are meant to be his strong point but that was diabolical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 We like to create as much space as possible, so let as many come onto Baz as we think we can reasonably dal with. There's been a few recently where he's reacted really quickly to make those passes back look effortless. Tonight we had lost a bit of our midfield structure and the dropping back wasn;t our only option. Oddly, he also did kick it to an opponent a minute before their goal too, for the purposes of balance. We looked to have a defender who had taken a knock. In the couple of passes leading up to it, he wasn;t keen on receiving the ball. The pass back to Baz missed him out, rahter than going to him. Baz got a bit caught seeing a player, figuring out if it was a viable pass, deciding it wasn;t and by the time all that was going on, it was too late. We know there's going to be the odd one like that. But it is an odd one of late, didn't cost us (and had it there would be comments on our finishing at the other end) and he was fine in everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 2 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Shit happens too often Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Yep First time something similar has happened this season by my count? Granted there was the Watford fuck up, but there are far worse keepers in this league. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Think he was distracted by the “Ole’s” rather than doing his job and clearing it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 6 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said: Think he was distracted by the “Ole’s” rather than doing his job and clearing it out Partly that and partly THB took a knock about 30 seconds before (probably should have stayed down) and think Baz was reluctant to play the easy pass to him. Cock up, but he'll learn from it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 (edited) Surprised it's taken this long for that to happen. No because he's bad with his feet (quite the opposite) but because of the amount of times he receives the ball. It was bound to happen eventually. Edited 29 December, 2023 by Harry_SFC 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 17 minutes ago, sambosa75 said: It’s a matter of time before he does. His feet are meant to be his strong point but that was diabolical. His feet are his strong point. Pretty sure this is the first time he's made that sort of cock up for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Been his biggest critic but let’s not let that distract from our good he is with his feet for us. Hopefully that happened (without consequence) and he’ll be a bit smarter in that position moving forward. Bit of arrogance I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 100% down to him, don’t understand why anyone could pretend otherwise. It was a back pass every single professional goal keeper should have dealt with & he fucked it up. That said, it was just a one off, dealing with back passes and the ball at his feet is his strength (and the manager wants us to play this way). He’ll learn from this and the experience will help eradicate this sort of error. My issue isn’t this error, it’s his paper wrists and the underlying weaknesses you can’t coach out of his game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 I've been one of his biggest critics but give the guy a break. He's been much improved this season and given the way we play it was inevitable that was going to happen sooner or later, it happens to the best. Think he just seemed to get caught in two minds. Just hope it doesn't knock his confidence too much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 58 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: Brain fart, move on. Even Allison has made similar gaffs. It happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 (edited) Bazanu has been great this season. These things can happen, he will improve from that. Edited 29 December, 2023 by davefizzy14 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 He'll hold his hand up for that one. But, it didn't cost us and perhaps can be used in a positive way to see what he did wrong and get it fixed for more important moments in upcoming matches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekelund Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 34 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: His feet are his strong point. Pretty sure this is the first time he's made that sort of cock up for us. He’s a Goal keeper, keeper of goal, keeper of nets, tho shall not kin pass… I’d love him to become the best keeper we’ve ever had but the simple, plain as day fact is that he can’t be trusted. Just when you think, yeah OK, I can kinda see it another cluster fuck comes along. The only difference between this and Watford and Huddersfield is that it hasn’t cost us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 The change in the atmosphere as the season has progressed was well-illustrated by the fact Itchen North, Northam and Kingsland were chanting his name immediately after the fuck up and he responded later on with applause 👍🏻 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 5 minutes ago, CSA96 said: The change in the atmosphere as the season has progressed was well-illustrated by the fact Itchen North, Northam and Kingsland were chanting his name immediately after the fuck up and he responded later on with applause 👍🏻 Yeah I noticed that and good on em. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Oh dear. Too cocky by half. We can only hope that lessons are learnt by everyone involved. At that stage of the game anywhere but there would have been the better choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway saint Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 these things happen. doesn’t alter my concerns but we move on as he’s earned that by virtue of the way he’s asked to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 1 hour ago, davefizzy14 said: Bazanu has been great this season. Fuck me, great 😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 Just now, Lord Duckhunter said: Fuck me, great 😂😂 Get off his back! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 These things happen, it’s not as if it’s a regular occurrence. He has been consistently on excellent with the ball at his feet and his calmness and composure are a large part of why we’ve had the joint best defence in the league over the last three months. Boruc was the best keeper we’ve had since Niemi and he was capable of plenty of howlers. Likewise Forster and Kelvin, let’s not pretend there are any perfect keepers out there who never have moments like this. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 29 December, 2023 Share Posted 29 December, 2023 2 hours ago, davefizzy14 said: Bazanu has been great this season. These things can happen, he will improve from that. Not by a long way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 December, 2023 Share Posted 30 December, 2023 35 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: These things happen, it’s not as if it’s a regular occurrence. He has been consistently on excellent with the ball at his feet and his calmness and composure are a large part of why we’ve had the joint best defence in the league over the last three months. Boruc was the best keeper we’ve had since Niemi and he was capable of plenty of howlers. Likewise Forster and Kelvin, let’s not pretend there are any perfect keepers out there who never have moments like this. Literally nobody is pretending there are any perfect keepers out there. Why do people resort to hyperbole like this? It’s ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 30 December, 2023 Share Posted 30 December, 2023 4 hours ago, sambosa75 said: This useless cunt needs to be a million miles away from the first team. Way too harsh and completely unnecessary, he's been a completely different player this season and this happens to many goalies once. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball boy Posted 30 December, 2023 Share Posted 30 December, 2023 I think the lad showed great mental strength after he completely messed up. So easy to completely go to pieces after a calamity like that. he will be a top keeper some day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmore Saint Posted 30 December, 2023 Share Posted 30 December, 2023 As a member of the keepers union, we just do strange shit sometimes. This was such a moment….. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 December, 2023 Share Posted 30 December, 2023 18 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Literally nobody is pretending there are any perfect keepers out there. Why do people resort to hyperbole like this? It’s ridiculous. Some people seem to think he’s useless, should be nowhere near the team, is the worst keeper in the league or if they are being kind, ‘might be good enough in ten years’. There are more than enough people claiming his mistakes ‘cost us points’ as if that’s somehow unique to him and not every player, in every squad in the country. Kelvin was in the team of the season last time we got promoted. He was frequently beaten low at his near post, had the odd howler in his locker and his distribution was nowhere near as accurate and composed as Baz. The hyperbole is from people claiming he’s some sort of liability, holding this team back, when that’s very clearly not the case. Every player will make mistakes which will cost us points. If they didn’t we’d finish the season on 138 points. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 December, 2023 Share Posted 30 December, 2023 29 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Some people seem to think he’s useless, should be nowhere near the team, is the worst keeper in the league or if they are being kind, ‘might be good enough in ten years’. There are more than enough people claiming his mistakes ‘cost us points’ as if that’s somehow unique to him and not every player, in every squad in the country. Kelvin was in the team of the season last time we got promoted. He was frequently beaten low at his near post, had the odd howler in his locker and his distribution was nowhere near as accurate and composed as Baz. The hyperbole is from people claiming he’s some sort of liability, holding this team back, when that’s very clearly not the case. Every player will make mistakes which will cost us points. If they didn’t we’d finish the season on 138 points. More nonsense. Yes, there’s a massive scale on people’s opinion of Bazunu. But literally nobody thinks there is a perfect keeper out there, or even if there was that we would get 138 points from him. It’s just a Bad Wolf pile of waffle you keep suggesting. He’s a young kid, he’s made plenty of mistakes before and he’s still making them, surprise surprise people talk about it when it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 December, 2023 Share Posted 30 December, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Kraken said: More nonsense. Yes, there’s a massive scale on people’s opinion of Bazunu. But literally nobody thinks there is a perfect keeper out there, or even if there was that we would get 138 points from him. It’s just a Bad Wolf pile of waffle you keep suggesting. He’s a young kid, he’s made plenty of mistakes before and he’s still making them, surprise surprise people talk about it when it happens. There are clearly people who think Bazunu is not good enough and is a weakness in our team. His distribution is excellent, he’s calm and composed on the ball, he communicates well with the defence, he makes the routine saves comfortably and he makes some excellent saves which go beyond the ordinary from time to time. Tonight’s howler was the first such lapse in concentration he’s made this season, it happens. There have been goals he could have done better with, a handful where he didn’t get down quick enough, predominantly to his left. You say nobody wants a perfect keeper but a fair number of people want him out the team for what is his only real, relatively minor, weakness. He's a large part of the way we play, which at the moment has us conceding less than a goal a game and pretty much the best defence in the league. We aren’t going to get another keeper at this level, who plays this system as well as Baz does. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWLondonSaint Posted 30 December, 2023 Share Posted 30 December, 2023 It happens, move on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 December, 2023 Share Posted 30 December, 2023 4 hours ago, Lighthouse said: You say nobody wants a perfect keeper but a fair number of people want him out the team for what is his only real, relatively minor, weakness. Not being a good shot stopper is not a minor weakness for a goalkeeper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 30 December, 2023 Share Posted 30 December, 2023 12 hours ago, sambosa75 said: This useless cunt needs to be a million miles away from the first team. It’s incredible we have fans capable of spouting this vitriolic garbage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 30 December, 2023 Share Posted 30 December, 2023 Nobody complained on Tuesday when their keeper missed a kick and let Edozie in. We've got ourselves into the ridiculous situation where we try to involve our own keeper in more touches of the ball that the opposition’s. This is going to go wrong far too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 30 December, 2023 Share Posted 30 December, 2023 11 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: Nobody complained on Tuesday when their keeper missed a kick and let Edozie in. We've got ourselves into the ridiculous situation where we try to involve our own keeper in more touches of the ball that the opposition’s. This is going to go wrong far too often. Martin laid no blame on Bazunu in the post match interview. He said the players started passing back to him too much near the end and weren't being positive enough in possession. It's the first real mistake with his feet that had led to a goal I can remember this season. All keepers make them, even Ederson and Allisson who are seen as the gold standard for passing out from the back. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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