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7 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Defo improving, he hasn’t cost us points since Watford 3 games ago. 

He's not the finished article and not a brilliant goal keeper - never will be imo. 

However, he's a massive part in us being able to play out from the back. He is brilliant with the ball at his feet and so comfortable under pressure. 

He's also commanding his box a lot more. Taking a load more crosses into the box. 

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10 minutes ago, Dman said:

He's not the finished article and not a brilliant goal keeper - never will be imo. 

However, he's a massive part in us being able to play out from the back. He is brilliant with the ball at his feet and so comfortable under pressure. 

He's also commanding his box a lot more. Taking a load more crosses into the box. 

Yeah, he does contribute to our passing game , and is getting better (he couldn’t get much worse).  But personally, I’d like a larger run of games without letting soft ones in before I start worrying whether we’ll keep hold of him.
 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah... You don't like him. We have heard your insufferable opinion plenty over the past 34 pages, Eeyore.

He has been playing top-quality football for the better part of the season, and all I hear is, "Last year...blah blah blah." Last year was a wreck from the goal box to the owner's box. The fact that his confidence is in tact speaks for how strong this kid is mentally. And, my god, he is getting better by the day. Get off his back and go be miserable elsewhere. Try to enjoy our run while it lasts, even if that is against your nature.

 

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14 minutes ago, St. Ciervo said:

Yeah, yeah, yeah... You don't like him. We have heard your insufferable opinion plenty over the past 34 pages, Eeyore.

He has been playing top-quality football for the better part of the season, and all I hear is, "Last year...blah blah blah." Last year was a wreck from the goal box to the owner's box. The fact that his confidence is in tact speaks for how strong this kid is mentally. And, my god, he is getting better by the day. Get off his back and go be miserable elsewhere. Try to enjoy our run while it lasts, even if that is against your nature.

 

“Past performance is no guarantee of future performance”

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It’ll happen with the way we play. It’s high risk stuff at times from Baz, Bednarek and THB right in front of the goal inviting forwards to press and then moving it on just as they arrive. We do need to learn when to punt it on occasion IMO and it meant unnecessary pressure at the end of the game but it’s clearly something we’ll keep doing.

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Wasn't a great back pass from Stephens in the first place IMO - It wasn't along the ground, which gave Bazunu something extra to worry about, and there were also other options than passing back to a keeper who had the opposition breathing down his throat, especially given we were already in injury time. 

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We like to create as much space as possible, so let as many come onto Baz as we think we can reasonably dal with. There's been a few recently where he's reacted really quickly to make those passes back look effortless. Tonight we had lost a bit of our midfield structure and the dropping back wasn;t our only option. Oddly, he also did kick it to an opponent a minute before their goal too, for the purposes of balance.

We looked to have a defender who had taken a knock. In the couple of passes leading up to it, he wasn;t keen on receiving the ball. The pass back to Baz missed him out, rahter than going to him. Baz got a bit caught seeing a player, figuring out if it was a viable pass, deciding it wasn;t and by the time all that was going on, it was too late.

We know there's going to be the odd one like that. But it is an odd one of late,  didn't cost us (and had it there would be comments on our finishing at the other end) and he was fine in everything else.

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100% down to him, don’t understand why anyone could pretend otherwise. It was a back pass every single professional goal keeper should have dealt with & he fucked it up.

That said, it was just a one off, dealing with back passes and the ball at his feet is his strength (and the manager wants us to play this way). He’ll learn from this and the experience will help eradicate this sort of error. My issue isn’t this error, it’s his paper wrists and the underlying weaknesses you can’t coach out of his game. 

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I've been one of his biggest critics but give the guy a break. He's been much improved this season and given the way we play it was inevitable that was going to happen sooner or later, it happens to the best. Think he just seemed to get caught in two minds. Just hope it doesn't knock his confidence too much.

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34 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

His feet are his strong point. Pretty sure this is the first time he's made that sort of cock up for us. 

He’s a Goal keeper, keeper of goal, keeper of nets, tho shall not kin pass… I’d love him to become the best keeper we’ve ever had but the simple, plain as day fact is that he can’t be trusted.

Just when you think, yeah OK, I can kinda see it another cluster fuck comes along. The only difference between this and Watford and Huddersfield is that it hasn’t cost us

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The change in the atmosphere as the season has progressed was well-illustrated by the fact Itchen North, Northam and Kingsland were chanting his name immediately after the fuck up and he responded later on with applause 👍🏻

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5 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

The change in the atmosphere as the season has progressed was well-illustrated by the fact Itchen North, Northam and Kingsland were chanting his name immediately after the fuck up and he responded later on with applause 👍🏻

Yeah I noticed that and good on em.

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These things happen, it’s not as if it’s a regular occurrence. He has been consistently on excellent with the ball at his feet and his calmness and composure are a large part of why we’ve had the joint best defence in the league over the last three months.

Boruc was the best keeper we’ve had since Niemi and he was capable of plenty of howlers. Likewise Forster and Kelvin, let’s not pretend there are any perfect keepers out there who never have moments like this.

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35 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

These things happen, it’s not as if it’s a regular occurrence. He has been consistently on excellent with the ball at his feet and his calmness and composure are a large part of why we’ve had the joint best defence in the league over the last three months.

Boruc was the best keeper we’ve had since Niemi and he was capable of plenty of howlers. Likewise Forster and Kelvin, let’s not pretend there are any perfect keepers out there who never have moments like this.

Literally nobody is pretending there are any perfect keepers out there.

Why do people resort to hyperbole like this? It’s ridiculous.

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18 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Literally nobody is pretending there are any perfect keepers out there.

Why do people resort to hyperbole like this? It’s ridiculous.

Some people seem to think he’s useless, should be nowhere near the team, is the worst keeper in the league or if they are being kind, ‘might be good enough in ten years’. There are more than enough people claiming his mistakes ‘cost us points’ as if that’s somehow unique to him and not every player, in every squad in the country.

Kelvin was in the team of the season last time we got promoted. He was frequently beaten low at his near post, had the odd howler in his locker and his distribution was nowhere near as accurate and composed as Baz.

The hyperbole is from people claiming he’s some sort of liability, holding this team back, when that’s very clearly not the case. Every player will make mistakes which will cost us points. If they didn’t we’d finish the season on 138 points.

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29 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Some people seem to think he’s useless, should be nowhere near the team, is the worst keeper in the league or if they are being kind, ‘might be good enough in ten years’. There are more than enough people claiming his mistakes ‘cost us points’ as if that’s somehow unique to him and not every player, in every squad in the country.

Kelvin was in the team of the season last time we got promoted. He was frequently beaten low at his near post, had the odd howler in his locker and his distribution was nowhere near as accurate and composed as Baz.

The hyperbole is from people claiming he’s some sort of liability, holding this team back, when that’s very clearly not the case. Every player will make mistakes which will cost us points. If they didn’t we’d finish the season on 138 points.

More nonsense. Yes, there’s a massive scale on people’s opinion of Bazunu. But literally nobody thinks there is a perfect keeper out there, or even if there was that we would get 138 points from him. It’s just a Bad Wolf pile of waffle you keep suggesting. He’s a young kid, he’s made plenty of mistakes before and he’s still making them, surprise surprise people talk about it when it happens.

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12 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

More nonsense. Yes, there’s a massive scale on people’s opinion of Bazunu. But literally nobody thinks there is a perfect keeper out there, or even if there was that we would get 138 points from him. It’s just a Bad Wolf pile of waffle you keep suggesting. He’s a young kid, he’s made plenty of mistakes before and he’s still making them, surprise surprise people talk about it when it happens.

There are clearly people who think Bazunu is not good enough and is a weakness in our team. His distribution is excellent, he’s calm and composed on the ball, he communicates well with the defence, he makes the routine saves comfortably and he makes some excellent saves which go beyond the ordinary from time to time. Tonight’s howler was the first such lapse in concentration he’s made this season, it happens. There have been goals he could have done better with, a handful where he didn’t get down quick enough, predominantly to his left.

You say nobody wants a perfect keeper but a fair number of people want him out the team for what is his only real, relatively minor, weakness. He's a large part of the way we play, which at the moment has us conceding less than a goal a game and pretty much the best defence in the league. We aren’t going to get another keeper at this level, who plays this system as well as Baz does.

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11 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Nobody complained on Tuesday when their keeper missed a kick and let Edozie in.

We've got ourselves into the ridiculous situation where we try to involve our own keeper in more touches of the ball that the opposition’s. This is going to go wrong far too often.

Martin laid no blame on Bazunu in the post match interview. He said the players started passing back to him too much near the end and weren't being positive enough in possession.

It's the first real mistake with his feet that had led to a goal I can remember this season.

All keepers make them, even Ederson and Allisson who are seen as the gold standard for passing out from the back.

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