HKsaint Posted 15 October, 2023 Share Posted 15 October, 2023 Bazunu will bring us to the level where he belongs to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 15 October, 2023 Share Posted 15 October, 2023 2 minutes ago, HKsaint said: Bazunu will bring us to the level where he belongs to. In which case RM is the perfect manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 15 October, 2023 Share Posted 15 October, 2023 9 hours ago, stevy777_x said: The fact that we are still having debates on Bazunu in the Championship says it all for me. In the PL, people were saying you ll see he ll be better in the champ as it is more his level. The only thing that has got better this season is his distribution, which is actually very good now. But apart from that i still the same flows i saw in the PL as he doesn t do the basics right On another note, Liz has 5 clean sheets in 8 games and saved a penalty in the last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 15 October, 2023 Share Posted 15 October, 2023 2 hours ago, stevy777_x said: On another note, Liz has 5 clean sheets in 8 games and saved a penalty in the last game. In the Turkish second division though. I’m a bit dubious about the quality of attacker in that league! can’t say many people would be happy with Lis as first choice. Another totally barmy signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 October, 2023 Share Posted 15 October, 2023 1 minute ago, Stu Man Do said: In the Turkish second division though. I’m a bit dubious about the quality of attacker in that league! can’t say many people would be happy with Lis as first choice. Another totally barmy signing. Lis was never a signing for us though, he was bought as a SR player and we are the vehicle for his movement around their other clubs. We will see more of this, signing of players who aren't ever going to play for us, but move out on loan to other SR clubs for their entire career. Not totally onboard wit it, but it's how these multi club models work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 October, 2023 Share Posted 16 October, 2023 9 hours ago, Stu Man Do said: can’t say many people would be happy with Lis as first choice. Another totally barmy signing. Player signed for Turkish second division side keeps lots of clean sheets. What's "totally barmy" about that? Sounds like a good signing to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 October, 2023 Share Posted 16 October, 2023 11 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Lis was never a signing for us though, he was bought as a SR player and we are the vehicle for his movement around their other clubs. We will see more of this, signing of players who aren't ever going to play for us, but move out on loan to other SR clubs for their entire career. Not totally onboard wit it, but it's how these multi club models work. So why sign him for Saints in the first place, why not sign him for the Turkish club directly or one of the other clubs? It doesn't really make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 16 October, 2023 Share Posted 16 October, 2023 Interesting article about sweeper-keepers.. Judging by the comments BTL a lot of fans worry about faffing around at the back and passing to a well marked defender: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/oct/16/premier-league-sweeper-keeper-onana-ederson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 16 October, 2023 Share Posted 16 October, 2023 On 15/10/2023 at 13:48, HKsaint said: Bazunu will bring us to the level where he belongs to. Bazanu bashing has gone on long enough, we all know who on here rates him and those who hold him in contempt so why go around in circles saying the same old things in a dozen different ways. Balls do not end up in the back of our net solely because of the goalkeeper. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 17 October, 2023 Share Posted 17 October, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: Bazanu bashing has gone on long enough, we all know who on here rates him and those who hold him in contempt so why go around in circles saying the same old things in a dozen different ways. Balls do not end up in the back of our net solely because of the goalkeeper. You are correct. Ireland’s 4-1 win over Gibraltar proves it. Edited 17 October, 2023 by HKsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 17 October, 2023 Share Posted 17 October, 2023 Kinda made this point before, but I just think the way we seem to be persisting with this young goalkeeper route is a waste of time.. the goalkeeper market is not that expensive . We could have picked up a decent ready to go keeper instead .. also the chances of us getting huge money/profits on the keeper isn’t that great even if he did turn out good .. don’t mean to be harsh but he was a liability last season and doesn’t seem to be a lot better this,, the team suffers giving him time to learn the ropes and if he does end up reaching the potential most of us are not even seeing he will probably fuck off anyway is it worth it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 17 October, 2023 Share Posted 17 October, 2023 When he goes for 30 million, we'll be sorry. Mainly as we'll be in the national conference by then. 🙂 If anything, the arrival of Wilcox, and another Man City link, has solidified Baz's place with the club. He's seen as key to our philosophy of having a goalkeeper who is very comfortable at the back, and who plays a key role in maintaining our possession game, with his distribution. When he was still getting a game last season, I was wondering if we had to play him, as we had an agreement with City to develop a goalkeeper that suited what they wanted, without having to go through the pain as we have. Oddly, just as his distribution was looking even better, Martin changed it a bit. Since I've not seen too much about his positioning against Rotherham, he's not done badly of late. Noted that those couple of games haven't had many shots on his weaker side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 17 October, 2023 Share Posted 17 October, 2023 12 hours ago, HKsaint said: You are correct. Ireland’s 4-1 win over Gibraltar proves it. I mean, Gibraltar didn't actually have a shot on target. Dunno if even Bazunu could manage to let one in. As a wider point, Bazunu isn't high on my shit list so far this season. Manning has cost us more goals/points, as has Holgate - and definitely RM. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 October, 2023 Share Posted 17 October, 2023 18 hours ago, HKsaint said: You are correct. Ireland’s 4-1 win over Gibraltar proves it. I....really don't get what point you're trying to make with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted 20 October, 2023 Share Posted 20 October, 2023 On 14/10/2023 at 18:36, Bad Wolf said: Where was he supposed to be? If he'd been on his goal line and had a shot blasted to his right and in, people would be saying he should have been further out. But even if that was his fault, surely that's the kind of thing that comes with experience and absolutely no basis for claiming that he'll never come good. When the ball is knocked down at the edge of the penalty area from a long ball? Ideally not 12 yards off his line in no-mans land, backpedaling, causing him to jump off-balance... He's just not good enough in my view. Whether he will in the future is irrelevant, he is not good enough to start in the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 20 October, 2023 Share Posted 20 October, 2023 9 hours ago, Jimbo said: When the ball is knocked down at the edge of the penalty area from a long ball? Ideally not 12 yards off his line in no-mans land, backpedaling, causing him to jump off-balance... He's just not good enough in my view. Whether he will in the future is irrelevant, he is not good enough to start in the present. Absolute bloody tosh, the amount of goalkeeper critics on here that do not have a bloody clue about goalkeeping but think they are experts is ridiculous. Saints threw the kid into the lions den last year and i'm surprised by his mental strength that he has come through it. There is barely a goal this season that we have conceded that can be levelled against him. The prejudice of what happened last season has rolled over into this season for too many fans that need to move on from last season. This is a new season and Baz has done very little wrong so far. He is more than adequate to be our number one keeper at this level. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 20 October, 2023 Share Posted 20 October, 2023 9 hours ago, Jimbo said: When the ball is knocked down at the edge of the penalty area from a long ball? Ideally not 12 yards off his line in no-mans land, backpedaling, causing him to jump off-balance... He's just not good enough in my view. Whether he will in the future is irrelevant, he is not good enough to start in the present. I disagree with you on the final sentence but I do appreciate that sentiment. My defences of him aren't really aimed at people who simply don't think he's good enough now. Like I said, I simply respectfully disagree with that. What my gripe is, is the comments such as "He'll never be good enough" etc. Which is just just baffling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 20 October, 2023 Share Posted 20 October, 2023 27 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said: Absolute bloody tosh, the amount of goalkeeper critics on here that do not have a bloody clue about goalkeeping but think they are experts is ridiculous. Saints threw the kid into the lions den last year and i'm surprised by his mental strength that he has come through it. There is barely a goal this season that we have conceded that can be levelled against him. The prejudice of what happened last season has rolled over into this season for too many fans that need to move on from last season. This is a new season and Baz has done very little wrong so far. He is more than adequate to be our number one keeper at this level. Sunderland's 3rd is about it. And absolutely. The way he's been treated by our fans is nothing short of disgusting. That's not people who simply don't rate him - I mean the people who have made personal comments that if read, would possibly have a negative affect on someone's mental health. You just know it's the same people who were whinging about Tino "owing the club loyalty" or some shit. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 12 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: Sunderland's 3rd is about it. And absolutely. The way he's been treated by our fans is nothing short of disgusting. That's not people who simply don't rate him - I mean the people who have made personal comments that if read, would possibly have a negative affect on someone's mental health. You just know it's the same people who were whinging about Tino "owing the club loyalty" or some shit. What a load of old pony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 15 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: Sunderland's 3rd is about it. And absolutely. The way he's been treated by our fans is nothing short of disgusting. That's not people who simply don't rate him - I mean the people who have made personal comments that if read, would possibly have a negative affect on someone's mental health. You just know it's the same people who were whinging about Tino "owing the club loyalty" or some shit. Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 18 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: Sunderland's 3rd is about it. And absolutely. The way he's been treated by our fans is nothing short of disgusting. That's not people who simply don't rate him - I mean the people who have made personal comments that if read, would possibly have a negative affect on someone's mental health. You just know it's the same people who were whinging about Tino "owing the club loyalty" or some shit. He's been shown incredible support from fans at the games considering the level of his performances. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: He's been shown incredible support from fans at the games considering the level of his performances. At games, maybe. But you don't think players read social media comments about themselves? And again, I'm not talking about simply "I don't think he's very good" I mean stuff like "That **** keeper starts again. Hope he gets injured so he doesn't play again" I don't think Perraud was very good but I didn't go on social media wishing injuries etc on him. Edited 21 October, 2023 by Bad Wolf 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block41 Saint Posted 21 October, 2023 Share Posted 21 October, 2023 He done well today. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 15 hours ago, Block41 Saint said: He done well today. Do you think Hull supporters would want to swap keepers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 22 October, 2023 Share Posted 22 October, 2023 10 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Do you think Hull supporters would want to swap keepers? I don't know any so can't ask but they probably would happily swap. Both keepers made decent saves yesterday but Gavin was a better sweeper than their goalie. Both teams played passing football but their keeper seemed rooted to his line and didn't make himself as available for the pass back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 6 hours ago, Tamesaint said: I don't know any so can't ask but they probably would happily swap. Both keepers made decent saves yesterday but Gavin was a better sweeper than their goalie. Both teams played passing football but their keeper seemed rooted to his line and didn't make himself as available for the pass back. They don’t play passing back like we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 Another clean sheet for Liz, can see him coming back next season and being our back up keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 Baz made a difficult save low to his left on Saturday. Much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 23 October, 2023 Share Posted 23 October, 2023 Let’s be honest he hasn’t done much wrong this season. Last year there were big errors all round, including several from Baz. Most of the them this season have come from in front the defence/tika taka screw ups leaving him exposed. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 What a fooookin save at Deepdale. 🔥 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 Every fucking week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 A decent keeper saves one of those 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 My god, horrific keeper 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 The first goal he had ready dived for it, it went through a crowd of legs and got a deflection, I think off Charles. The second was an unchallenged shot from six yards, which came from our own attack. Anyone blaming Baz for those two goals is insane. It’s the team in front of him collapsing time after time. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 Just now, Lighthouse said: The first goal he had ready dived for it, it went through a crowd of legs and got a deflection, I think off Charles. The second was an unchallenged shot from six yards, which came from our own attack. Anyone blaming Baz for those two goals is insane. It’s the team in front of him collapsing time after time. LOL the 2nd goal when right through him, from an angle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: The first goal he had ready dived for it, it went through a crowd of legs and got a deflection, I think off Charles. The second was an unchallenged shot from six yards, which came from our own attack. Anyone blaming Baz for those two goals is insane. It’s the team in front of him collapsing time after time. You’re just deluded at this point mate, that or you just love arguing against the (obvious) consensus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 (edited) Forster would have saved the second one, every day of the week. The bird commentating said “could Baz have done better for the first ”. How many times is that question asked? I Edited 25 October, 2023 by Lord Duckhunter 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 9 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: LOL the 2nd goal when right through him, from an angle Yes, that’s how you score a goal from an angle at close range. If he keeps his legs together there’s just loads of space either side of the, to tuck it past. He can’t grow an extra couple of legs, there is always going to be a space, which any decent striker will find. I know that sounds like witchcraft when you’ve been watching Che Adams for this long but trust me, it’s true. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DellBoys Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 Might as well play another outfielder and forget about picking a goalie 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 some absolute bloody tools on here blaming Baz for either goal 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 Booooooosh! You can all suck my f**king dong! 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 fucking get in Bazzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 hahahahaha fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 5 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said: some absolute bloody tools on here blaming Baz for either goal I definitely blame him for our equaliser! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 Decent keeper saves the first. second straight through him. Still not good enough 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 11 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Booooooosh! You can all suck my f**king dong! Yep, the mark of a truly great keeper is whether or not he can nearly get his head on a last minute corner that then goes in via own goal. Consider me proven wrong. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Yep, the mark of a truly great keeper is whether or not he can nearly get his head on a last minute corner that then goes in via own goal. Consider me proven wrong. His head is very similar to his hands, the ball skimmed off it. He caused confusion, which resulted in an OG. It was hardly Ron Davies territory and certainly not worthy of a blow job for lighthouse. God knows what he’ll want if Baz saves a penalty. Edited 25 October, 2023 by Lord Duckhunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 14 minutes ago, Jimbo said: Decent keeper saves the first. second straight through him. Still not good enough Yet he caused more panic in their defence when he got into their penalty area than our timid so called strikers. Sums up a lot wrong at SFC at both ends of the pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 16 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said: I definitely blame him for our equaliser! And me. More or less straight at him. Ok players in between, that might excuse a pub league keeper. At this level you need and expect better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 October, 2023 Share Posted 25 October, 2023 27 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: His head is very similar to his hands, the ball skimmed off it. He caused confusion, which resulted in an OG. It was hardly Ron Davies territory and certainly not worthy of a blow job for lighthouse. God knows what he’ll want if Baz saves a penalty. He went up for a set piece and got his head on it, which clearly deflected it in off Evans. Christ, if a Saints fan can’t just enjoy a moment like that in the last minute of injury time, I can’t help you. I’ll take that over our outfield players spooning it into the car park any night. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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