Gavin Bazunu

[tdmickey3]

2 hours ago, Suhari said:

Do we think he's improved in his time away?

His  possession stats are low

Edited January 10 by tdmickey3

[Football Special]

47 minutes ago, Chez said:

Good news for the lad. Despite him not being a fans favourite, it's better having him fit than not. It's now up to the manager to make the right choices in terms of keeper selection/retention.

Will be interesting to see how he's matured, Martin loved him for possession, will need to show more than that for other managers 

[Harry_SFC]

1 hour ago, Chez said:

Good news for the lad. Despite him not being a fans favourite, it's better having him fit than not. It's now up to the manager to make the right choices in terms of keeper selection/retention.

It'll be an interesting summer that's for sure. Lumley out of contract, Ramsdale will go. McCarthy not good enough. I'd imagine we'll have to sign another keeper to compete with Bazunu and McCarthy will be third choice. 

[Dark Munster]

4 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

I’ll take him over what McCarthy did against Liverpool and Newcastle any day.

There's a good chance we'd be playing the likes of Stoke and the skates instead of Liverpool and Newcastle if Baz had been in goal during the playoffs.

[Weston Super Saint]

9 hours ago, Harry_SFC said:

It'll be an interesting summer that's for sure. Lumley out of contract, Ramsdale will go. McCarthy not good enough. I'd imagine we'll have to sign another keeper to compete with Bazunu and McCarthy will be third choice. 

Mateusz Lis?

[Matthew Le God]

21 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Mateusz Lis?

Saints sold him last transfer window.

[Toussaint]

10 hours ago, Football Special said:

Will be interesting to see how he's matured, Martin loved him for possession, will need to show more than that for other managers 

Like saving a shot here and there?

[Toussaint]

McCarthy is ok, he’s no Ramsdale, but way  way better than Baz. He’s not the basket case some would have you believe.

[Weston Super Saint]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

Saints sold him last transfer window.

Good grief, it looks like we did.  Must have missed the pomp and circumstance around that!

Another quality signing then that played exactly zero mintues in the two years he was with us.

[Turkish]

20 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

McCarthy is ok, he’s no Ramsdale, but way  way better than Baz. He’s not the basket case some would have you believe.

Championship is his level he’s not and never has been a premier league keeper 

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, Toussaint said:

Like saving a shot here and there?

Yeah something along those lines. 

He's got 22 caps for Republic of Ireland, for a young lad that is impressive,  he'll be keen to get back. If he's fit enough hopefully we can get him a loan to play regularly 2nd half of this season 

[waylander]

1 hour ago, Toussaint said:

McCarthy is ok, he’s no Ramsdale, but way  way better than Baz. He’s not the basket case some would have you believe.

If he isn't having to play Russball then he will look better than he has previously this season

[IFHP]

1 hour ago, Toussaint said:

McCarthy is ok, he’s no Ramsdale, but way  way better than Baz. He’s not the basket case some would have you believe.

I agree, even more so now some loon is not expecting him to play as a virtual sweeper .

[Lighthouse]

9 hours ago, Dark Munster said:

There's a good chance we'd be playing the likes of Stoke and the skates instead of Liverpool and Newcastle if Baz had been in goal during the playoffs.

You've just made that up. Bazunu is a better keeper than McCarthy and whoever is in charge next season in the Championship will most likely agree with me (and Ralph, Jones and Martin).

[ErwinK1961]

Giving Mccarthy a new contract was one of the most brain dead decisions made in recent years, he’s crap (regardless of playing out from the back or not).

When Ramsdale goes, hopefully the club have realised the benefits of having a competent GK and replace him. Loan Baz out for the season, give Lumley another year as 3rd choice.

Previous target Michael Cooper joined Sheff Utd in summer and seems to be doing well, shame.

 

[Galway saint]

46 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

You've just made that up. Bazunu is a better keeper than McCarthy and whoever is in charge next season in the Championship will most likely agree with me (and Ralph, Jones and Martin).

bit like comparing hitler and stalin in a nice guy competition

for what it’s worth McCarthy any day of the week for me - he has the advantage of actually being a goalkeeper  

 

[S-Clarke]

1 hour ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Giving Mccarthy a new contract was one of the most brain dead decisions made in recent years, he’s crap (regardless of playing out from the back or not).

When Ramsdale goes, hopefully the club have realised the benefits of having a competent GK and replace him. Loan Baz out for the season, give Lumley another year as 3rd choice.

Previous target Michael Cooper joined Sheff Utd in summer and seems to be doing well, shame.

 

I think it's probably best we all fully prepare ourselves with Bazunu as number 1 next year.

[ErwinK1961]

18 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I think it's probably best we all fully prepare ourselves with Bazunu as number 1 next year.

I know.. but a man can dream right?

[Weston Super Saint]

26 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I think it's probably best we all fully prepare ourselves with Bazunu as number 1 next year.

Rid the house of sharp knives? Shred all pieces of rope? Put all medicines in a triple locked safe?

Those sorts of preparations?

[Gloucester Saint]

4 hours ago, Turkish said:

Championship is his level he’s not and never has been a premier league keeper 

Fair, and Baz is League one or two at best.

[Gloucester Saint]

43 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I think it's probably best we all fully prepare ourselves with Bazunu as number 1 next year.

League One here we come.

[Whitey Grandad]

3 hours ago, Galway saint said:

bit like comparing hitler and stalin in a nice guy competition

for what it’s worth McCarthy any day of the week for me - he has the advantage of actually being a goalkeeper  

 

Er...  Mo Salah?

[Dark Munster]

5 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

You've just made that up. Bazunu is a better keeper than McCarthy and whoever is in charge next season in the Championship will most likely agree with me (and Ralph, Jones and Martin).

You just made that up. Bazunu is consistently at the bottom of save percentages every season. Macca isn’t great but at least he can make routine saves and some very good ones too. His clanger against Liverpool was a direct result of having to play the lunatic Russball. 

[Whitey Grandad]

44 minutes ago, Dark Munster said:

You just made that up. Bazunu is consistently at the bottom of save percentages every season. Macca isn’t great but at least he can make routine saves and some very good ones too. His clanger against Liverpool was a direct result of having to play the lunatic Russball. 

Football isn't played on  spreadsheets. 

His clangef was against Salah was nothing to do with Russball.

[Badger]

6 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Giving Mccarthy a new contract was one of the most brain dead decisions made in recent years, he’s crap (regardless of playing out from the back or not).

When Ramsdale goes, hopefully the club have realised the benefits of having a competent GK and replace him. Loan Baz out for the season, give Lumley another year as 3rd choice.

Previous target Michael Cooper joined Sheff Utd in summer and seems to be doing well, shame.

 

If they get promoted perhaps Sheff Utd will use him as a makeweight if they come in for Ramsdale.

Would like to keep Ramsdale next season but unlikely, so the next best thing has to be someone more credible  than Bazunu.

Edited January 11 by Badger

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, Dark Munster said:

You just made that up. Bazunu is consistently at the bottom of save percentages every season. Macca isn’t great but at least he can make routine saves and some very good ones too. His clanger against Liverpool was a direct result of having to play the lunatic Russball. 

McCarthy has consistently made very poor mistakes throughout his career, regardless of who the manager has been. He had two clangers against Liverpool, the first was not 'Russball' it was him making a very poor, panicked decision and if he keeps playing he'll do it again. When you say Bazunu is at the bottom of the save percentages, you mean something like 64% when the average is something like 70%. It's not the horrendous failure that some people like to pretend.

Weirdly, Bazunu's errors all seem to get blamed on him, whereas everyone elses are because we're playing 'Russball'. I've no idea how this was decided but I don't subscribe to it.

[SouSaint]

I really hope we don't go into next season debating Bazunu or McCarthy because they are both crap. McCarthy is just more likely to make routine save. Bazunu's shot stopping is his clear weakness. 

Edited January 11 by SouSaint

[Galway saint]

5 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

I think it's probably best we all fully prepare ourselves with Bazunu as number 1 next year.

don’t count your chickens yet - one of the big boys might snap up irelands no 2.

[St. Ciervo]

Baz's weakness may be shot-stopping, but Macca seemingly has no strength. Passing... no. Shot stopping.... not if it is on the ground or towards his near post. 

The real problem is not any of our keepers. Our terrible defense has made even Ramsdale look shaky. 

Edited January 12 by St. Ciervo

[Gloucester Saint]

14 hours ago, Galway saint said:

don’t count your chickens yet - one of the big boys might snap up irelands no 2.

Shamrock Rovers or Cork City

Edited January 12 by Gloucester Saint

[Convict Colony]

I for one am happy to give Baz longer, he is still so young for a keeper and will keep learning for a while yet.  Will be interesting how he plays now in a different system and if potentially facing less shots gives him greater confidence.

Think he is more than adequate for the championship at present with upside still to come.

[Toussaint]

1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

I for one am happy to give Baz longer, he is still so young for a keeper and will keep learning for a while yet.  Will be interesting how he plays now in a different system and if potentially facing less shots gives him greater confidence.

Think he is more than adequate for the championship at present with upside still to come.

I’m not sure that’s an advantage, the justification for playing him seemed to be his ability with his feet, if he has to adapt to a more traditional role, ie commanding his area and saving shots he will be found wanting. I agree hi is still very young for a goalkeeper and may go on to good things, but I’d be nervous having him as number one next season. 

[Convict Colony]

1 hour ago, Toussaint said:

I’m not sure that’s an advantage, the justification for playing him seemed to be his ability with his feet, if he has to adapt to a more traditional role, e commanding his area and saving shots he will be found wanting. I agree hi is still very young for a goalkeeper and may go on to good things, but I’d be nervous having him as number one next season. 

yeah fairpoint but it maybe helpful if stepehns, bednerak arent getting dispossed in the area so his shots faced should come down in theory.

Lets see where we end up but i would suspect we have bigger issues to address than keeper next season but who knows.

[Osvaldorama]

3 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

I for one am happy to give Baz longer, he is still so young for a keeper and will keep learning for a while yet.  Will be interesting how he plays now in a different system and if potentially facing less shots gives him greater confidence.

Think he is more than adequate for the championship at present with upside still to come.

Based on what?

 

He was absolutely toilet in the championship. 

Horrific keeper. Now he’s fit we should get rid asap. 

[Convict Colony]

6 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Based on what?

 

He was absolutely toilet in the championship. 

Horrific keeper. Now he’s fit we should get rid asap. 

He cant get worse and our ability to play out from the back cant get worse.

[Lord Duckhunter]

If Baz is in nets next season we won’t get promoted, awful keeper….

[Lighthouse]

He's been injured that long, I'd forgotten how much his very presence actually upset some people. Hopefully he plays all of next season and we can get promoted 'in spite of him' again.

[Saint_clark]

7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

He's been injured that long, I'd forgotten how much his very presence actually upset some people. Hopefully he plays all of next season and we can get promoted 'in spite of him' again.

Same deal as last time, if he plays every game we won't get promoted. 

[Lighthouse]

10 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Same deal as last time, if he plays every game we won't get promoted. 

If you like. Come August it'll most likely be Bazunu in goal and McCarthy on the bench, which clearly upsets a lot of people but I'm absolutely fine with. Just for reference regarding his 'never saves any shots' problem; If you took 20 shots at every keeper in the Championship last season, on average they'd save 14 whilst Bazunu would save 13. That's it, that's the difference.

[Whitey Grandad]

51 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Based on what?

 

He was absolutely toilet in the championship. 

Horrific keeper. Now he’s fit we should get rid asap. 

Yet we achieved promotion with him in goal most of the time.

[Whitey Grandad]

27 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Same deal as last time, if he plays every game we won't get promoted. 

Or we might get automatic. There’s no way of knowing.

[Lord Duckhunter]

59 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

He's been injured that long, I'd forgotten how much his very presence actually upset some people. Hopefully he plays all of next season and we can get promoted 'in spite of him' again.

People are only upset because he’s shite, Some will  be upset if Jack Stephens is starting next year, and unlike Baz, Jack actually contributed towards our play off win. People want a better centre half in place for next season, and they want a better keeper than foam wrists Baz. 

You keep comparing him with AM, as if that makes him good enough to be number 1. He’s not, he wasn’t before he got injured, and he won’t be afterwards either. One of the worst shot stoppers I’ve ever seen in a Saints shirt.

Edited January 12 by Lord Duckhunter

[trousers]

52 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

If you like. Come August it'll most likely be Bazunu in goal and McCarthy on the bench, which clearly upsets a lot of people but I'm absolutely fine with. Just for reference regarding his 'never saves any shots' problem; If you took 20 shots at every keeper in the Championship last season, on average they'd save 14 whilst Bazunu would save 13. That's it, that's the difference.

And, given outcomes in football are often determined on fine margins, I applaud you for highlighting why we need someone better....

Edited January 12 by trousers

[Badger]

42 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

If you like. Come August it'll most likely be Bazunu in goal and McCarthy on the bench, which clearly upsets a lot of people but I'm absolutely fine with. Just for reference regarding his 'never saves any shots' problem; If you took 20 shots at every keeper in the Championship last season, on average they'd save 14 whilst Bazunu would save 13. That's it, that's the difference.

Don’t we want a GK to be competing with the top three or four ? 

[Lord Duckhunter]

3 minutes ago, Badger said:

If you took 20 shots at every keeper in the Championship last season, on average they'd save 14 whilst Bazunu would save 13. That's it, that's the difference.

That’s probably the worst defence of a player I’ve ever seen. 

Edited January 12 by Lord Duckhunter

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

Same deal as last time, if he plays every game we won't get promoted. 

We were 4th on the day of his injury and very much in the promotion race.

[Badger]

13 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

That’s probably the worst defence of a player I’ve ever seen. 

That was Lighthouse you were quoting , just in case anyone thinks I’m offering a defence of Bazunu. 

[Oldandtired]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

He's been injured that long, I'd forgotten how much his very presence actually upset some people. Hopefully he plays all of next season and we can get promoted 'in spite of him' again.

If he does we're bound to beat our championship goals against record of 63.

He is not a good goalkeeper. Full stop.

[Chez]

Baz is here until 2027. McCarthy to 2026. Assuming Ramsdale is sold, and Lumley departs, do we look to bring in another number 1? Wonder if we afford that in the championship?

[Saint_clark]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

If you like. Come August it'll most likely be Bazunu in goal and McCarthy on the bench, which clearly upsets a lot of people but I'm absolutely fine with. Just for reference regarding his 'never saves any shots' problem; If you took 20 shots at every keeper in the Championship last season, on average they'd save 14 whilst Bazunu would save 13. That's it, that's the difference.

So worse than the average for a team wanting to be top 2?