Gavin Bazunu

[SambaMaverick]

1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

Unless we get lucky and Spurs or someone want to sign Bazunu already this won't be happening. Bazunu is the golden child of the management. 

All we can hope for is for Wilcox's replacement to start clacking some fucking heads together and put a stop to the pig-headedness

[losgigantes]

Useless keeper!

[aintforever]

This bloke can’t save for shit.

[Disco Stu]

He doesn't get into any of the top 6 in this league. And he was signed as a Premier League starter. Absolute embarrassment for our recruitment.

[Block41 Saint]

He's stuck in the mud whenever he has to dive. Shite, cut our losses in the summer and find a goalkeeper who will occasionally make a fucking save. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

Is it too much to ask for a keeper that makes good saves once in a while. Makes the occasional save that you’re convinced is a goal. This chump makes routine saves & lets decent efforts in, nothing else.  I can not recall another keeper who has made less good saves than this bloke. If you get a decent shot away, it’s a goal. Every fucking time. 

[S-Clarke]

Shit show from him for a while now, he had a good spell this season and he didn't deserve any criticism, but at the moment it seems as if every shot on target is a goal by default.

The game was summed up by the keepers tonight. At 2-1 their keeper made a decent save from Bednarek, not a worldie, but a good save he had to work/move his feet to get to.

Our keeper let in their only 3 shots they had on target and didn't look capable of getting to either, where you'd think most keepers would have got something on it. The 2nd goal to make it 2-2 was an absolute howler by him and that killed us.

Edited 1 April, 2024 by S-Clarke

[Ekelund]

3 hours ago, SambaMaverick said:

Getting Rotherham's goalkeeper in is a must if we don't go up. Biggest no-brainer deal you'll ever see, will gain us 10+ points immediately

I actually agree mate, just don’t go looking for the Coventry highlights (away)

[HarvSFC]

He doesn't save anything that's not routinely right at him. Anything that's struck well, or hit with a bit of swerve and it goes in the net. Anything he has to dive for and it goes in the net. It's so poor. 

Like playing with an outfield player in goal for the entire season, well two seasons now.

[Weston Super Saint]

Lumley must be fucking useless not to get picked week in week out.

[AlexLaw76]

LOL, Martin had a pop at the supporter during the Fans Forum for daring to suggest Baz could be better....

[inspectorfrost]

He didn't really do too much wrong today but he's simply continually playing at a level that is above him.

Friends of mine on the dark side were genuinely baffled when we signed him, they didn't think him good enough for league one

[Give it to Ron]

2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

LOL, Martin had a pop at the supporter during the Fans Forum for daring to suggest Baz could be better....

Why is that funny?

[SambaMaverick]

 

 

[Hodgey]

Our policy of signing City youth players has been a poor one. Edozie, Bazuna, Larios, Charles all at best average championship players. Yes we struck gold with Lavia - but he looks highly injury prone. 
When you think about it, buying expensive youngsters who have barely played professional football and asking them to succeed in high pressure environments straight away is silly. 

[Weston Super Saint]

2 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

 

 

Whilst that is damning evidence, we can't even compare Lumley as he's never played a league game.

[SambaMaverick]

Just now, Weston Super Saint said:

Whilst that is damning evidence, we can't even compare Lumley as he's never played a league game.

No better time than now to give him a go! Sweet fuck all to play for for the last eight games.

[Weston Super Saint]

1 minute ago, SambaMaverick said:

No better time than now to give him a go! Sweet fuck all to play for for the last eight games.

Not gonna happen though. Imagine if we find out he's actually better and could have saved us 10 points?

[RedArmy]

6 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

 

 

There it is in black and white (and red) 

 

He couldn’t save a word document. 

[LGTL]

If there’s a worse keeper in this league I’ve yet to see him. 

[Wade Garrett]

He is the worst keeper I’ve ever seen wearing a Saints shirt, and I remember Ian Andrews, yet gets picked every week.

[Saint Matty 76]

12 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

 

 

He was the worst in Premier League history within this stat last season too

Was met with a bunch of idiotic “stats 😂“ comments on here, as if you don’t come to the same conclusion that he’s fucking useless when using your eyes

People legitimately believe these numbers are made up from nowhere because they’re too stupid to understand 

[SambaMaverick]

Just now, Saint Matty 76 said:

He was the worst in Premier League history within this stat last season too

Was met with a bunch of idiotic “stats 😂“ comments on here, as if you don’t come to the same conclusion that he’s fucking useless when using your eyes

People legitimately believe these numbers are made up from nowhere because they’re too stupid to understand 

I understand some people are sceptical and I would never just go off stats alone - but when you're seeing with your eyes that he lets everything in, and the numbers say he lets everything in... that's because he's letting everything in.

It's crazy 

[SambaMaverick]

Last one from me

[hypochondriac]

Bazunu is shit. He hasn't been good enough for the vast majority of the season. I would love it if we replaced him next year. 

[BILLYDO]

I’ve held the position that we should persist with Gavin as he is a young keeper with the potential to be a really good asset. However, when ever he dives he doesn’t seem to get further than if he just fell over.  Shot stopping is too weak for him to be in a winning side. He needs to go out on loan for a season or two a la Lis. 

[Wade Garrett]

9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Bazunu is shit. He hasn't been good enough for the vast majority of the season. I would love it if we replaced him next year. 

I was thinking more next match.

[Yorkshire Saint]

Perhaps we start Stephens in goal. Win win.... RM gets his wish to keep JS in the team at all costs, GB is dropped and the back 4 which was so strong in the 25 unbeaten run gets picked...

[saintant]

Leicester fans absolutely slating Baz tonight and saying he saves nothing.  He's been given a fair crack of the whip but it's clear he is very poor at shot stopping and rarely pulls off saves that keep us in matches. RM was wrong to give him such unequivocal backing at the Fan's Forum. I'm afraid he is a liability and seems to lack any kind of sharp reflexes or the ability to explode off either foot and make saves.

[hypochondriac]

19 minutes ago, saintant said:

Leicester fans absolutely slating Baz tonight and saying he saves nothing.  He's been given a fair crack of the whip but it's clear he is very poor at shot stopping and rarely pulls off saves that keep us in matches. RM was wrong to give him such unequivocal backing at the Fan's Forum. I'm afraid he is a liability and seems to lack any kind of sharp reflexes or the ability to explode off either foot and make saves.

Martin's managerial style is to back the players to the hilt but there's a time for that and a time for realism and a touch of ruthlessness in the pursuit of success. I would hope at the very least that Martin would be looking to make a change next year whatever league we happen to be in because it's plain to everyone that Bazunu at this age and with this experience is not currently cut out for a top championship club. 

[The Kraken]

Southampton head coach Russell Martin told BBC Radio Solent: 

"Their (winning) goal came out of nothing. It shouldn't go in and Gavin (Bazunu) should do better. He'll know that.

 

[Saint Matty 76]

8 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Southampton head coach Russell Martin told BBC Radio Solent: 

"Their (winning) goal came out of nothing. It shouldn't go in and Gavin (Bazunu) should do better. He'll know that.

 

Feel like that has to be a mistranslation because that was the only goal I wouldn't blame him for

[The Kraken]

1 minute ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

Feel like that has to be a mistranslation because that was the only goal I wouldn't blame him for

Same. The defending was shocking for that goal, ok Bazunu wasn’t brilliant but he certainly wouldn’t have been the first one I’d have blamed for it.

[Galway saint]

2 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Southampton head coach Russell Martin told BBC Radio Solent: 

"Their (winning) goal came out of nothing. It shouldn't go in and Gavin (Bazunu) should do better. He'll know that.

 

That’s unusual to single him out. The second was as bad in my view. Can’t make my mind up for the first. You shouldn’t be beaten from there from that angle unless its a wonder strike. Not sure it was but will give him the benefit of the doubt.

Think the club need to honest with itself that this isn’t working and it’s hasn’t worked for the best part of nearly two seasons now.

The rest of the regular season should be used to bed in Lumley and get him used to the way Martin wants to play ahead of the play offs. 

There is no point agonising over the defence and working on defensive drills when any half decent shot is going in. I accept the defence is at fault for the third and one of them should have blocked it but if I was a defender in that team I’d be looking at my keeper and saying he needs to do better when i’ve ran my legs off for 97 minutes and we’re down to ten men. 

If we can play that well and still lose that’s crushing for any side and we need to replace him as with a decent keeper we would have won that 

[Saint_clark]

The veil has lifted. Martin has defended him to the hilt for much worse mistakes than he's made today. Lose such a critical game though and he tries to deflect blame away from his poor management by throwing Bazunu under the bus. 

I really don't like Martin, his management style or him as a person.

[benali-shorts]

He has the agility of a dead prostitute. 

[maysie]

If you listen to the post match on Solent, he criticises Baz for 2 goals the first one I think and one other, not sure which one.

 

 

[saintant]

25 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

Feel like that has to be a mistranslation because that was the only goal I wouldn't blame him for

Any keeper worth his salt should be comfortably stopping their first goal tonight. It was a real howler.

[The Kraken]

First goal. Poor quality photo but you can see that Bazunu hasn’t jumped, if anything he’s crouched down making himself smaller. Ok it was a great strike but I think the keeper has to do better.

Second goal, went through the defenders legs and not too far from the far post. I think a better keeper than Bazunu reacts quicker to it but in general I find it hard to totally blame him for this one given it went through the defender. Although it’s another one low down on his left side which we know he struggles with.

Third goal, I definitely blame Brooks, Rothwell and Smallbone for ball watching. But seeing this angle, Bazunu’s starting position is terrible, there’s only one place the ball can go from there where it’s a danger and Bazunu is nowhere near it.

 

 

Edited 1 April, 2024 by The Kraken

[AlexLaw76]

Worst keeper in the league (again)

https://x.com/thestatssaint/status/1774888833345097977?s=46

[Lord Duckhunter]

34 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

The veil has lifted. Martin has defended him to the hilt for much worse mistakes than he's made today. Lose such a critical game though and he tries to deflect blame away from his poor management by throwing Bazunu under the bus. 

 

That’s a bit unfair. He tried to throw him under a bus earlier in the season, but Baz dived too late and missed it. 

[Miltonaggro]

Start of the season I felt that the best way for the Board to protect Bazunu, if they felt he was a genuine prospect would be to have him as number two to an experienced keeper as a mentor, and / or send him out on loan.  Like we did with Flowers and Burridge, a similar situation.  I would have got Kasper Schmeichel in at the start of September when he left Nice. For me, it's not just his shot stopping, it's positioning, lack of physical strength and presence, rather like having a youth keeper in goal. 

This is clearly Sport Republic protecting their investment, same with Sulemana and to an extent Edozie and Mara, making sure these youngsters are in the shop window, and given the reaction at the fans forum last year, Martin had been told who his first choice keeper would be on joining.  To be honest Lumley on a free looks no worse than £12m Baz, and if we miss out in the play offs and McCarthy goes I'd be straight in for Johanssen at Rotherham over the summer.  

[saintant]

17 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

First goal. Poor quality photo but you can see that Bazunu hasn’t jumped, if anything he’s crouched down making himself smaller. Ok it was a great strike but I think the keeper has to do better.

Second goal, went through the defenders legs and not too far from the far post. I think a better keeper than Bazunu reacts quicker to it but in general I find it hard to totally blame him for this one given it went through the defender. Although it’s another one low down on his left side which we know he struggles with.

Third goal, I definitely blame Brooks, Rothwell and Smallbone for ball watching. But seeing this angle, Bazunu’s starting position is terrible, there’s only one place the ball can go from there where it’s a danger and Bazunu is nowhere near it.

 

 

Yes, these photos for the third goal are quite damning. The route to the right side of the goal is blocked by a cluster of players so clearly he needs to be anticipating and moving left much earlier and quicker than he does.  Had he used his instincts and gambled he'd surely save the shot. He just seems to lack many of the basic requisites needed to play in goal including awareness, agility, smelling danger and the ability to push hard off one foot when diving. He's only really good with the ball at his feet.

[Patches O Houlihan]

2 hours ago, BILLYDO said:

I’ve held the position that we should persist with Gavin as he is a young keeper with the potential to be a really good asset. However, when ever he dives he doesn’t seem to get further than if he just fell over.  Shot stopping is too weak for him to be in a winning side. He needs to go out on loan for a season or two a la Lis. 

This is where I am too. I want him to come good, but there's just no sign of his traditional keeping skills improving right now.

[pimpin4rizeal]

7 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

The veil has lifted. Martin has defended him to the hilt for much worse mistakes than he's made today. Lose such a critical game though and he tries to deflect blame away from his poor management by throwing Bazunu under the bus. 

I really don't like Martin, his management style or him as a person.

Hopefully it’s more a case of russ starting to get fucked off with the soft goals we concede  with baz..  if he acts on it and puts lumley in now I’m all for it to be honest 

[chiknsmack]

Give De Gea £1m for ten games with a £15m bonus if we get promoted. "But he's no good with his feet and so wouldn't fit Martin's system". Ok, give Mourinho (or any of the other myriad unemployed managers) £2m for ten games and a £30m bonus if we get promoted.

Bazunu and his skillset are at their best when we dominate possession. We're more likely to dominate possession against inferior opposition. The important games in our future (the playoffs, and hopefully the battle to avoid relegation from the PL next year and the runs at Europe in the years after that) won't be against inferior opposition very often. Therefore, he's not the keeper we need.

He might end up being very, very good at some point in the future. It's unlikely to be (and shouldn't be) here.

[coalman]

10 hours ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

This is where I am too. I want him to come good, but there's just no sign of his traditional keeping skills improving right now.

I felt he should've stopped at least 2 of the goals yesterday. His lateral movement seems more like he drops to the ground and sticks out a hand rather than dives sideways. It's rare he stops anything not hit directly at him.

Contrast that with the ground the Ipswich keeper made up to stop Bednarek's flicked header.

Throw in the two shocking handling errors on Friday and it ain't pretty.

We dropped 2 points on Friday because strikers. We dropped 3 last night because keeper.

[Galway saint]

11 minutes ago, coalman said:

I felt he should've stopped at least 2 of the goals yesterday. His lateral movement seems more like he drops to the ground and sticks out a hand rather than dives sideways. It's rare he stops anything not hit directly at him.

Contrast that with the ground the Ipswich keeper made up to stop Bednarek's flicked header.

Throw in the two shocking handling errors on Friday and it ain't pretty.

We dropped 2 points on Friday because strikers. We dropped 3 last night because keeper.

he’s ok if it’s close to him ( the save at preston was a good one) because he can rely on his reflexes but anything low to his left is a real problem. it’s been like that for a while now and doesn’t seem to be getting any better really. 

the position he took for the first was also odd as he seems to be crouching down rather than extending his frame.

 

[Badger]

11 hours ago, benali-shorts said:

He has the agility of a dead prostitute. 

The Jeremy Clarkson theory 

[Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan]

1 hour ago, Galway saint said:

he’s ok if it’s close to him ( the save at preston was a good one) because he can rely on his reflexes but anything low to his left is a real problem. it’s been like that for a while now and doesn’t seem to be getting any better really. 

the position he took for the first was also odd as he seems to be crouching down rather than extending his frame.

 

And if we can spot that, opposing teams can easily try and exploit it. We can't have a keeper with an obvious weakness and expect to succeed. When you get to a certain level it will be exposed, as we saw with Kelvin and his near post when we got promoted