Gavin Bazunu

[The Kraken]

9 minutes ago, Block41 Saint said:

He got very lucky on Saturday when he parried a weak free kick straight to a Sunderland player, the Sunderland player missed the ball on the follow up. This has been a common trait during his time here, he rarely pushes the ball away from danger when he makes a save. Got away with one vs Norwich too for their debatable offside goal in the second half. 

Yep. At least once in the first half, I think maybe a couple of times, where the co-commentator specifically mentioned poor goalkeeping from Bazunu and how he failed to push the ball away as adequately he could have done. It’s unfortunately a bit of a recurring theme. The sad thing is that, when he did actually parry one away very well, it got returned in for Holgate to have an absolute swing and miss at it which led to a goal, so you’ve got to feel for him a bit with that one.

[sydney_saint]

17 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

A top level keeper could have saved goals 3 and 5 at Sunderland but they weren’t exactly howlers which trickled between his legs. I would have reasonably expected him to save one of those two, so I guess you could say he held us back from the awe-inspiring 4-0 defeat we were capable of. Or you could say he robbed us of a 3-0 defeat, if you weirdly expect him to make no mistakes whilst those in front of him are dreadful.

The defence was awful, the attackers didn’t trouble their goal and yet it seems to be Baz getting all the flack. It’s just weird, compared to someone like Alcaraz who’s been crap this season, as he was for many games last season, but gets off Scot-free and is hailed as being a class above.

A few major differences between Baz and Alcaraz. Alcaraz has moved to the other side of the world, has lived in this country for less than 12 months, with a completely different style and language. Baz has spent his entire career in UK and Ireland. Alzaraz also cost less comparative to the going rate in his position. And whilst he's had some poor games, he's probably churned out more 7/10 or higher matches than Baz despite less appearances. So not really weird, the fans want something to cling onto which Alcaraz has done with a handful of excellent appearances even if he has been poor this season. Baz has given very little to cling on. He doesn't seem to be any better than 12 months, and remains statistically one of the worst keepers going around. 

[BotleySaint]

I'd feel a lot better if we had an experience goalkeeper who could step in if this continues. It's not just over critical fans noticing these errors, there are articles in the press. 

But I guess that's what we've got Lumley for? He's been a Championship regular in recent years.

[Le Timmier]

33 minutes ago, BotleySaint said:

I'd feel a lot better if we had an experience goalkeeper who could step in if this continues. It's not just over critical fans noticing these errors, there are articles in the press. 

We have two experienced back up goalkeepers. I don’t think it’s experience we’re lacking in our back up goalkeepers, it’s talent.

[Whitey Grandad]

Once again, it’s not the keepers that are the problem. It’s the poor and disorganised rabble in front of them. Sort that out first, then the keepers after.

[Barsiem]

2 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Once again, it’s not the keepers that are the problem. It’s the poor and disorganised rabble in front of them. Sort that out first, then the keepers after.

It's clearly not one or the other.  Part of a keepers job is to help keep his defence organised.  The whole defensive unit needs to improve, keeper and all

[Whitey Grandad]

10 minutes ago, Barsiem said:

It's clearly not one or the other.  Part of a keepers job is to help keep his defence organised.  The whole defensive unit needs to improve, keeper and all

There’s only a limited amount that a keeper can do in that respect. He might be able to prompt the odd player or two but when there are six or seven who aren’t concentrating and are out of position he will end up not doing his own job properly.

[sydney_saint]

36 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

There’s only a limited amount that a keeper can do in that respect. He might be able to prompt the odd player or two but when there are six or seven who aren’t concentrating and are out of position he will end up not doing his own job properly.

I think you are severely understating the role a keeper plays in this. Why are nearly all top flight goalkeepers 28 or older, with many well above 35? Sure, they may have a bit less wear and tear than outfield players, but a 40 year old keeper isn't gonna be any more athletic or springy than a 21 year old, or with as sharp reflexes, so they must have a lot more influence than just shot stopping. A big part on why keepers are older is how they organise what is in front of them. It's not the only factor, but it is still a significant one. Then you add in how many goals we let in from set pieces. Yes- training plays a role here. But keepers are taking charge of these situations. Baz is simply not.

We have defenders that have played in tighter defences than this. Baz has played behind Bednarek, Salisu, KWP, and DCC. All defenders that have proven they can play with much better organisation. Coaching plays a huge role, but regardless of who is in charge and their approach, our organisation has remained calamitous since Baz was called up. It's not totally his fault and the primary responsibility is still on the coaching and the defenders. But let's not say that if we had a better more experienced keeper that things could not be alot better. 

[Whitey Grandad]

11 minutes ago, sydney_saint said:

I think you are severely understating the role a keeper plays in this. Why are nearly all top flight goalkeepers 28 or older, with many well above 35? Sure, they may have a bit less wear and tear than outfield players, but a 40 year old keeper isn't gonna be any more athletic or springy than a 21 year old, or with as sharp reflexes, so they must have a lot more influence than just shot stopping. A big part on why keepers are older is how they organise what is in front of them. It's not the only factor, but it is still a significant one. Then you add in how many goals we let in from set pieces. Yes- training plays a role here. But keepers are taking charge of these situations. Baz is simply not.

We have defenders that have played in tighter defences than this. Baz has played behind Bednarek, Salisu, KWP, and DCC. All defenders that have proven they can play with much better organisation. Coaching plays a huge role, but regardless of who is in charge and their approach, our organisation has remained calamitous since Baz was called up. It's not totally his fault and the primary responsibility is still on the coaching and the defenders. But let's not say that if we had a better more experienced keeper that things could not be alot better. 

And I think you are overstating the importance of the goalkeeper in organising the defence. Our organisation has been woeful no matter who is in goal and if anything McCarthy was worse. The defence and midfield should be cohesive and organised no matter who is behind them. True, a more experienced goalkeeper can help but only a little.

You may not like Bazunu and I don't particularly care either way but to start blaming him for all our defensive mess is stretching your case too far.

I repeat. last Saturday it would not have made any difference to the thrashing whoever we had in goal.

[benali-shorts]

1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said:

And I think you are overstating the importance of the goalkeeper in organising the defence. Our organisation has been woeful no matter who is in goal and if anything McCarthy was worse. The defence and midfield should be cohesive and organised no matter who is behind them. True, a more experienced goalkeeper can help but only a little.

You may not like Bazunu and I don't particularly care either way but to start blaming him for all our defensive mess is stretching your case too far.

I repeat. last Saturday it would not have made any difference to the thrashing whoever we had in goal.

I think this highlights one of the major flaws of both Bazunu and McCarthy - they're both silent keepers and seem quite diffident personalities. I'm sure our defensive organisation would improve with a more vocal and aggressive keeper. I'm sure Bazunu will continue to improve but he doesn't strike me (nor AMcC) as being the type to organise, nor to impose any sense of fear on the back 4 - which is definitely what we need in the short term given the inexperience and/or incompetence of our CBs. 

[The Kraken]

1 hour ago, sydney_saint said:

It's not totally his fault and the primary responsibility is still on the coaching and the defenders. But let's not say that if we had a better more experienced keeper that things could not be alot better. 

 

1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said:

You may not like Bazunu and I don't particularly care either way but to start blaming him for all our defensive mess is stretching your case too far.

Gramps, how about letting go of your straw man argument? Literally nobody is saying that all of the defensive mess is down to Bazunu.  Not even the guy you quoted then accused him of it. Making arguments up to suit your own narrative is pretty poor form.

[notnowcato]

5 minutes ago, benali-shorts said:

I think this highlights one of the major flaws of both Bazunu and McCarthy - they're both silent keepers and seem quite diffident personalities. I'm sure our defensive organisation would improve with a more vocal and aggressive keeper. I'm sure Bazunu will continue to improve but he doesn't strike me (nor AMcC) as being the type to organise, nor to impose any sense of fear on the back 4 - which is definitely what we need in the short term given the inexperience and/or incompetence of our CBs. 

Top flight shouty aggressive keepers list:

Pickford

Martinelli

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Top flight nobhead keepers list:

Pickford

Martinelli

<end>

Top flight shouty aggressive keepers AND top 6 finish 2022-23 list:

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[sydney_saint]

1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said:

And I think you are overstating the importance of the goalkeeper in organising the defence. Our organisation has been woeful no matter who is in goal and if anything McCarthy was worse. The defence and midfield should be cohesive and organised no matter who is behind them. True, a more experienced goalkeeper can help but only a little.

You may not like Bazunu and I don't particularly care either way but to start blaming him for all our defensive mess is stretching your case too far.

I repeat. last Saturday it would not have made any difference to the thrashing whoever we had in goal.

Which point did I blame 'all' of our defensive mess on him, or even say that the result would have been different against Sunderland? I didn't and it's pretty strawman from you as that isn't my point.

My concern has been the long term trend. He was the worst performing goalkeeper in Europe's top 5 leagues last season. That has nothing to do with the defenders in front of him. Often when a team is at the bottom with a shambles defence, the keepers can actually look pretty good as they have more opportunities to make saves. Think Marshall at Cardiff a few years ago when everyone thought he was the ducks nuts. Even if you think keepers have little role on what's happening in front (where I do disagree with you), you can't disagree he is underperforming by a long way even considering the defence. I think everyone can only point to 1, maybe 2 matches where her performed well. We probably would have gone down anyway but he certainly didn't help our cause. We gambled on him and it backfired. 

Now we are trying to do the same thing again. He is once performing poorly. We can sit here and analyse the goals one by one and have differences of opinion but that's pretty pointless. He has let in more goals he was expected to save, compared to savings shots he wasn't expected to save. And we are risking our promotion by backing him again. Whhhyyyyy

[FarehamSaintJames]

We aren’t changing him now, even bringing in a free transfer isn’t going to happen.

Ask yourself, Gavin Bazunu or Alex McCarthy?

Then stop whining and back him. 😂

[Whitey Grandad]

44 minutes ago, sydney_saint said:

Which point did I blame 'all' of our defensive mess on him, or even say that the result would have been different against Sunderland? I didn't and it's pretty strawman from you as that isn't my point.

My concern has been the long term trend. He was the worst performing goalkeeper in Europe's top 5 leagues last season. That has nothing to do with the defenders in front of him. Often when a team is at the bottom with a shambles defence, the keepers can actually look pretty good as they have more opportunities to make saves. Think Marshall at Cardiff a few years ago when everyone thought he was the ducks nuts. Even if you think keepers have little role on what's happening in front (where I do disagree with you), you can't disagree he is underperforming by a long way even considering the defence. I think everyone can only point to 1, maybe 2 matches where her performed well. We probably would have gone down anyway but he certainly didn't help our cause. We gambled on him and it backfired. 

Now we are trying to do the same thing again. He is once performing poorly. We can sit here and analyse the goals one by one and have differences of opinion but that's pretty pointless. He has let in more goals he was expected to save, compared to savings shots he wasn't expected to save. And we are risking our promotion by backing him again. Whhhyyyyy

There you go with your meaningless statistics again. 

And your strong implication was that he was responsible at least in part for our defensive mess, otherwise why bring it up?

[Baird of the land]

While it would nice to have a keeper that would organise the defence, I'd prefer bazanu focus on sorting his own deficiencies. If he gets himself in better positions to make saves he'll resuscitate his stats imo.

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, notnowcato said:

Top flight shouty aggressive keepers list:

Pickford

Martinelli

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Top flight nobhead keepers list:

Pickford

Martinelli

<end>

Top flight shouty aggressive keepers AND top 6 finish 2022-23 list:

<end>

Who the fuck is Martinelli?

[disconnect]

7 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Who the fuck is Martinelli?

A terrible goalkeeper, but pretty damn good going forward

[JRM]

Will be interesting watching France v Rep of Ireland tomorrow night, could see three of our players in the side and no doubt plenty of shots for Baz to save, see how he compares with a different defence 

[notnowcato]

2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Who the fuck is Martinelli?

Great contribution as ever

[Jonnyboy]

On 05/09/2023 at 19:45, Crab Lungs said:

We will still concede from regulation shots even if we became Tony Pulis miserly.
 

Whilst he’s not been at fault for much so far this season (our chaotic lack of organisation is the main culprit) he’s definitely  not got this imagined ceiling everyone keeps talking about. He’s just bad. That’s it. 

I'd rather have Forster these last 5 years. All his replacements have been dire.

[Whitey Grandad]

5 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

I'd rather have Forster these last 5 years. All his replacements have been dire.

So would I, but even he had his moments. That free kick at the Wembley final comes to mind.

[Crab Lungs]

15 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

I'd rather have Forster these last 5 years. All his replacements have been dire.

100% not going to bite!

[woksaintly]

Watching Bazunu I have observed some basics that he is not doing which explains why so many longer range shots are going in. Good postioning is essential for any keeper and movement to narrow angles is key as well as havving a clear site of any potential shot. If your reactions are good you stand more chance of saving/diverting a goal bound effort if you are off your line. The skill is determining how far. There will be very few occasions where you will be chipped unless a player is clean through. Bazunu's position for the long range shots he has conceded, is  in my opinion too near the goaline and his balance and stature is too high. By this I mean if you are in a crouching and weight forward position it is easier to dive and react to any shot than if you are static and too far back. This is a coaching issue which has not been addressed or he has not learnt this skill.

Edited 6 September, 2023 by woksaintly

[Behind Enemy Lines]

1 minute ago, woksaintly said:

Watching Bazuma I have observed some basics that he is not doing which explains why so many longer range shots are going in. Good postioning is essential for any keeper and movement to narrow angles is key as well as havving a clear site of any potential shot. If your reactions are good you stand more chance of saving/diverting a goal bound effort if you off your line. The skill is determining how far. There will be very few occasions where you will be chipped unless a player is claen through Bazumas position for the long range shots he has conceded, is  in my opinion to near the guideline and his balance and stature is too high. By this I mean if you are in a crouching and weight forward position it is easier to dive and react to any shot than if you are static and too far back. This is a coaching issue which has not been addressed or he has not learnt this skill.

All very interesting, but who is this keeper, Bazuma? 😂 

[woksaintly]

3 minutes ago, Behind Enemy Lines said:

All very interesting, but who is this keeper, Bazuma? 😂 

Corrected even if your point is pedantic and not about the technical issue I highlighted

[Behind Enemy Lines]

1 minute ago, woksaintly said:

Corrected even if your point is pedantic and not about the technical issue I highlighted

I wasn’t being pedantic. I was having a laugh, hence the 😂 

If I was being pedantic, I would have pointed at you are talking about Bazuma again in your post after your first edit. 
 

But I wasn’t being pedantic. 
 

Just trying to have a laugh after a long day. 

[woksaintly]

11 minutes ago, Behind Enemy Lines said:

I wasn’t being pedantic. I was having a laugh, hence the 😂 

If I was being pedantic, I would have pointed at you are talking about Bazuma again in your post after your first edit. 
 

But I wasn’t being pedantic. 
 

Just trying to have a laugh after a long day. 

Do you have a view on our first choice goalkeeper or are your comments only on those who do?😄

Edited 6 September, 2023 by woksaintly

[Behind Enemy Lines]

1 minute ago, woksaintly said:

Do you have a view on our first choice goalkeeper or are your comments only on those how do?😄

I do. 
 

I believe there is a goalkeeper in him who plays the modern way most managers want. 
 

However, I feel he should have been dropped last year and we should have brought in a (much) better first choice. Give him time as understudy and take the pressure off of him. 
 

AMC clearly isn’t good enough. Put him on gardening leave after getting a new first choice in. I expect his agent would have advised AMC to move on, but if not, well, it would be better than having him as second choice. 
 

I do believe he has improved this year, but the defence (team) in front of him has let him and the team, fans etc down. He faces too many close shots and far shots with our players blocking his site. 
 

It looks to me like his confidence is low in himself and the team and that a shot is imminent every time the ball is close so he hops a lot, like it’s a nervous twitch, and this means his feet are slow to respond to shots in time. I’m not an expert, far from it. Just a fan hoping he can come good as he looks a lot better when playing for Ireland. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 hours ago, notnowcato said:

Great contribution as ever

You posted about this top flight goal keeper called Martinelli. Who is he & who does he play for? 

[notnowcato]

20 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

You posted about this top flight goal keeper called Martinelli. Who is he & who does he play for? 

Yeah yeah, pick me up on a mistype rather than contribute to a discussion. Prick. 

Edited 6 September, 2023 by notnowcato

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

5 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

There you go with your meaningless statistics again. 

And your strong implication was that he was responsible at least in part for our defensive mess, otherwise why bring it up?

But he is  responsible at least in part for our defensive mess? Are you denying that's the case?

[ashnats]

https://theathletic.com/4257447/2023/03/15/gavin-bazunu-season-reviewed/

Interesting that the only 2 clubs with fewer saves were man city and Brighton, the other two possession obsessed teams. Also interesting that bazunu's save percentage is very similar to ederson's, but I assume a lot of people think ederson is a decent keeper.

[Whitey Grandad]

4 minutes ago, Golac&#x27;s Cunning Stunts said:

But he is  responsible at least in part for our defensive mess? Are you denying that's the case?

Yes I am. Our mess is beyond the capabilities of any one player standing thirty yards behind them. What’s he supposed to do? Run around pulling them into shape?

You can blame him for many things but an incohesive team is not one of them. Nor should it be.

[Lord Duckhunter]

9 hours ago, notnowcato said:

Yeah yeah, pick me up on a mistype rather than contribute to a discussion. Prick. 

I’m genuinely intrigued who this keeper is that you’re criticising for being vocal. The nearest to Martinelli I can see is Martínez, but surely you can’t mean him. The bloke who made a world class save in the dying seconds of a World Cup final, who saved 2 penalties in the quarter final, one in the final and won the golden gloves? You’re criticising him for not finishing in the top 6, as if that somehow means Baz’s silence is a good thing. It can’t be him, because that would make you a bit of a prick, so who did you mean by Martinelli?

[Saint Fan CaM]

I feel sorry for Baz. Young guy without the physical capacity to improve beyond where he is. Must be very frustrating for him and some what embarrassing that the Manager doesn’t take him out of the firing line. 😉

[sydney_saint]

1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

I feel sorry for Baz. Young guy without the physical capacity to improve beyond where he is. Must be very frustrating for him and some what embarrassing that the Manager doesn’t take him out of the firing line. 😉

Yeah my issue isn't with him at all. i don't doubt he works hard and wants to improve. He's just been put in a position most keepers are not put in (for a reason). 

I'm annoyed that we just so regularly screw up the keeper position. Honestly not since Niemi have I felt total reliance in our goalkeepers. There have been moments of exception. Davis was great in league 1, and okay in the Championship (that amazing leeds performance glosses over that season slightly). Boruc I loved and great but boy oh boy was he unhinged. Forster generally relied on the ball hitting his enormous frame rather than making saves himself. Otherwise we've generally had some of the poorer keepers every season, unless there is a name I've forgotten

[notnowcato]

4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I’m genuinely intrigued who this keeper is that you’re criticising for being vocal. The nearest to Martinelli I can see is Martínez, but surely you can’t mean him. The bloke who made a world class save in the dying seconds of a World Cup final, who saved 2 penalties in the quarter final, one in the final and won the golden gloves? You’re criticising him for not finishing in the top 6, as if that somehow means Baz’s silence is a good thing. It can’t be him, because that would make you a bit of a prick, so who did you mean by Martinelli?

Oh please, save me from your "genuinely intrigued" bullshit.

If you're unable to see that Martinez isn't a top 6 keeper, is shouty and aggressive, is a nobhead then it would seem you're incapable of following a discussion.

The original point that I was responding to was that all top keepers were shouty and aggressive, that's obviously not the case.

[Lord Duckhunter]

If Baz was in nets for Everton, they’d have been relegated, and despite Messi I doubt The Argies would have won the World Cup with Baz & his putty hands. I’d rather have a decent knob head in nets than suffer anymore Baz ball. 

Martinez is one of the 6 best keepers in the league anyway. 

 

Edited 7 September, 2023 by Lord Duckhunter

[sydney_saint]

23 minutes ago, notnowcato said:

Oh please, save me from your "genuinely intrigued" bullshit.

If you're unable to see that Martinez isn't a top 6 keeper, is shouty and aggressive, is a nobhead then it would seem you're incapable of following a discussion.

The original point that I was responding to was that all top keepers were shouty and aggressive, that's obviously not the case.

Lol Martinez has literally just been nominated for the Ballon d'Or. I might be going against the grain here, but I would probably take him over even Baz

Edited 7 September, 2023 by sydney_saint

[saintscottofthenortham]

On 06/09/2023 at 10:18, Block41 Saint said:

He got very lucky on Saturday when he parried a weak free kick straight to a Sunderland player, the Sunderland player missed the ball on the follow up. This has been a common trait during his time here, he rarely pushes the ball away from danger when he makes a save. Got away with one vs Norwich too for their debatable offside goal in the second half. 

I was blowing my top over this at the time. He got away with it, but it was totally unnecessary. This is stuff you learn when you're 8 years old... It's not something you should ever see a professional do, at any level.

Whilst most of our goals this season haven't been able to be pointed at Baz for, he hasn't kept many out. You expect a GK to pull off some saves they just shouldn't, but Baz just doesn't seem to.

He does at least appear to have learnt not to stand on his post when a ball is squared into the box, which is a vast improvement on last year. Now he just needs to learn to actually save them, but he is gibing himself a chance at least.

[notnowcato]

25 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

If Baz was in nets for Everton, they’d have been relegated, and despite Messi I doubt The Argies would have won the World Cup with Baz & his putty hands. I’d rather have a decent knob head in nets than suffer anymore Baz ball. 

Martinez is one of the 6 best keepers in the league anyway. 

 

Remind me how the other world cup final keeper is getting on.  It really isn't an argument against all the best keepers are shouty and aggressive.

[saintant]

14 minutes ago, saintscottofthenortham said:

I was blowing my top over this at the time. He got away with it, but it was totally unnecessary. This is stuff you learn when you're 8 years old... It's not something you should ever see a professional do, at any level.

Whilst most of our goals this season haven't been able to be pointed at Baz for, he hasn't kept many out. You expect a GK to pull off some saves they just shouldn't, but Baz just doesn't seem to.

He does at least appear to have learnt not to stand on his post when a ball is squared into the box, which is a vast improvement on last year. Now he just needs to learn to actually save them, but he is gibing himself a chance at least.

Didn't seem to have learned much from what I saw of the headed goal by Sergeant for Norwich. Stranded at his front post as the ball sailed over his head to the back post.

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, saintant said:

Didn't seem to have learned much from what I saw of the headed goal by Sergeant for Norwich. Stranded at his front post as the ball sailed over his head to the back post.

Now you’re being ridiculous. Have a look at it again and admit you’re wrong.

[Crab Lungs]

2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

If Baz was in nets for Everton, they’d have been relegated, and despite Messi I doubt The Argies would have won the World Cup with Baz & his putty hands. I’d rather have a decent knob head in nets than suffer anymore Baz ball. 

Martinez is one of the 6 best keepers in the league anyway. 

 

Best comparison yet. Pickford for Baz, Everton lose about 10-12 points straight off the bat.

[Crab Lungs]

There is this mythical assumption that Bazunu has some sort of huge ceiling and if we stick with him, he’ll reach it.

Even if he does, we do not have the time to wait around for someone to make mistakes which could cost us promotion.

And if he doesn’t, which I believe to be the case, then we’re onto a sure fire loser anyway.

it’s all moot though sadly as RM is as resolute and pugnacious of Baz as he is about his style of play. We’re lumbered, whether we like it or not.

[IFHP]

You don’t become a good goalie by only letting in goals that arnt your fault.

you become a good goalie by saving the ones you shouldn’t have . 
 

Bazunu makes mistakes , he lets in goals that are not directly his fault . 
He doesn’t save any shots he shouldn’t have . 
 

He contributed to our relegation and he’ll contribute to us finishing mid table . 

[Osvaldorama]

5 hours ago, notnowcato said:

Oh please, save me from your "genuinely intrigued" bullshit.

If you're unable to see that Martinez isn't a top 6 keeper, is shouty and aggressive, is a nobhead then it would seem you're incapable of following a discussion.

The original point that I was responding to was that all top keepers were shouty and aggressive, that's obviously not the case.

This an absolute shambles of a post 😂

 

Martinez is easily one of the best goalkeepers in the world.
 

He instantly improved villa’s backline when he went there by being aggressive and commanding so you’re literally undermining your own point 

[Lighthouse]

55 minutes ago, IFHP said:

You don’t become a good goalie by only letting in goals that arnt your fault.

you become a good goalie by saving the ones you shouldn’t have . 
 

Bazunu makes mistakes , he lets in goals that are not directly his fault . 
He doesn’t save any shots he shouldn’t have . 
 

He contributed to our relegation and he’ll contribute to us finishing mid table . 

Well, he’s cost us zero points so far this season. If we finish mid table then a lot more than just Baz will have gone wrong.

[Challenger]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

Well, he’s cost us zero points so far this season. If we finish mid table then a lot more than just Baz will have gone wrong.

Indeed, however the wrongs in that case will be similar to last season.