skintsaint Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 Just reading about it and it sounds horrific to be stuck in that. Found this clip of it, can't imagine being stuck in that thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 (edited) 7 ways to return to the surface on the sub. Was watching one news coverage of a reporter who had previously gone on it. He was told getting back up really wasn’t a problem, the only two worries were getting stuck in netting or a leakage. On his dive they were stuck on the surface for 3 hours and didn’t even ask for assistance so it must have been bad this time around. Edited 20 June, 2023 by SotonianWill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 Just seen on GMB that they now think there is a less than 1% chance of survival, oxygen will run out thursday morning, the lost signal 1 1/2 hours into the descent. Even if they found it huge difficulty bringing it back above water. It's not looking good. But honestly having seen the video above you have to wonder why anyone is mad enough to get it in. $200k to get in that thing built from parts from a camping shop, not regulated by any industry, they said it's only been approved to descend to 3000 metres, Titanic is nearly 4,000. No chance i'd be getting in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 (edited) rescuing people at that depth is near-on impossible. I guess a rescue submersible would need to tether it back up to a safer depth? That is even if it can be located. Miracles do happen though, but I should imagine they will either suffocate or freeze to death, if they have not been crushed by the atmospheric pressure Edited 20 June, 2023 by AlexLaw76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: rescuing people at that depth is near-on impossible. I guess a rescue submersible would need to tether it back up to a safer depth? That is even if it can be located. Miracles do happen though, but I should imagine they will either suffocate or freeze to death, if they have not been crushed by the atmospheric pressure the last thing they would want is someone burning them with chip fat then #topbantz #oldonesarethebest #originalityismymiddlename #i'venoideawhypeoplethinkiamacock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashnats Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 I keep reading they have x hours of oxygen left, but surely that is based on 5 souls? If there was only one of them alive, they could last 5 times longer than the estimates. There is a clear way forward to make that oxygen go further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 Just now, ashnats said: I keep reading they have x hours of oxygen left, but surely that is based on 5 souls? If there was only one of them alive, they could last 5 times longer than the estimates. There is a clear way forward to make that oxygen go further. If there are mechanical/electrical failures, they may have lost the ability to clean and/or get rid of CO2....which means they are all dead regardless Looking at the vessel, why the fuck would you get in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 While we all hold out some hope, I was reminded of an older incident I'd heard about a while back on a podcast. https://www.npr.org/2023/06/20/1183249112/missing-titanic-submarine-rescue-pisces-iii So, even if it's looking bleak, there can be successful outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 20 June, 2023 Author Share Posted 20 June, 2023 'Simon Platts, who directed a BBC documentary episode about the Titan sub last year, said if the vessel was on the water surface it would be really hard to spot. He said normally the sub comes to the surface and gets in touch with the mother vessel, before they both travel towards each other. It is a "very small thing in a big ocean" because only the top of the sub floats above the sea level, he said. The director of the BBC's Travel Show said he couldn't even spot the sub when they were right next to it and somebody had to point it out.' That would be even worse physiologically for them bobbing on the surface and suffocating than being on the ocean floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 June, 2023 Share Posted 21 June, 2023 You couldn’t have paid me $250,000 to get in that thing and dive to the bottom of the Atlantic, let alone the other way round. This isn’t MH370, it disappeared right under their noses, and a planned dive to a known location. Obviously they didn’t have a special offer on an ELT, redundant radio capability or an emergency flotation device when they were buying components from Best Buy. Smacks of a complete cowboy operation and a rather sad case of Darwinism for those onboard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 21 June, 2023 Share Posted 21 June, 2023 BANGING sounds have been heard underwater in the search for the missing Titan submarine, sparking new hope that crew members could be signaling for help. Searchers said they heard banging in 30-minute intervals while looking for the vessel, which disappeared on Sunday during an underwater trip to see The Titanic wreckage. One other major problem is even if the submersible gets to the surface the crew cannot open the hatch from the inside, it can only be opened from the outside. I hope the outcome is as good as the Chilean miners was but I am not confident. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 It could have been a good news story had they not hired 'white guys' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashnats Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 10 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: It could have been a good news story had they not hired 'white guys' Clearly. https://oceangate.com/about/leadership.html Their staff is more than 90% White. I think it is more that they didn't want old military experience, and instead wanted fresh and innovative kids with their raspberry pi and xbox skills. Sorry if that doesn't fit with your faux racial outrage though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 13 minutes ago, ashnats said: Clearly. https://oceangate.com/about/leadership.html Their staff is more than 90% White. I think it is more that they didn't want old military experience, and instead wanted fresh and innovative kids with their raspberry pi and xbox skills. Sorry if that doesn't fit with your faux racial outrage though. Have you listened to the clip? They clearly state they did not want 50 year old white guys........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashnats Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 26 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Have you listened to the clip? They clearly state they did not want 50 year old white guys........ Have you looked at their actions? They're full of white guys. The video is full of white people. Their website is full of white people. They can say what they like but their actions suggest they do not have any problem hiring white people whatsoever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 The conspiracy theorists are at work on this - saw this nonsense this morning. Posted by a successful/academically intelligent bloke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 2 hours ago, ashnats said: Clearly. https://oceangate.com/about/leadership.html Their staff is more than 90% White. I think it is more that they didn't want old military experience, and instead wanted fresh and innovative kids with their raspberry pi and xbox skills. Sorry if that doesn't fit with your faux racial outrage though. They wanted inexperienced people who wouldn't ask questions. They sacked the experienced engineer who raised red flags about the safety. The more you read about it the more cowboy operation it seems to have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 The porthole is only warranted to 1300 metres, usually these vessels are built around a titanium sphere but this is a largely carbon fibre tube, and they didn't get it certified as certification "stifles innovation". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 Everybody's dead, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 4 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Everybody's dead, Dave. What about Peterson? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Have you listened to the clip? They clearly state they did not want 50 year old white guys........ I have to take my cap off to you, managing to shoe horn your anti-woke agenda into a thread about a search for a missing submersible. Years of practice I suppose. Perhaps show a bit of respect for those 5 lives in the balance at the moment and hold off until we know their fate at least? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Have you listened to the clip? They clearly state they did not want 50 year old white guys........ It's a trope : they didn't want experienced engineers who knew what they were doing and would ask awkward questions when the Scrapheap Challenge team started their design and build. It is not a statement to be taken literally - except by the gullible and easily swayed. Strange how it is probably a load of "50 year old white guys" that are now trying to rescue the submersible. Edited 22 June, 2023 by badgerx16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 2 hours ago, egg said: The conspiracy theorists are at work on this - saw this nonsense this morning. Posted by a successful/academically intelligent bloke. Fuck me. Where do you even start with this? 🤦 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said: Fuck me. Where do you even start with this? 🤦 Ask what Matt thinks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 I’m confused, are Hes and Nett Zero two Israeli blokes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 It is impossible to imagine how the father could look his son in the eye as the 'adventure' turned sour and both had to watch each other die. They had everything but nothing. I dont see why you want to go and see a wreck, but the Titanic has an aura. Only have to see items that have somehow 'survived' being sold for £10'sk to underline that. Being cynical , how violins were saved in the disaster does seem odd, easy thing to fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 Debris found on the sea bed in the search area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 1 minute ago, badgerx16 said: Debris found on the sea bed in the search area. From the Titanic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 51 minutes ago, OldNick said: It is impossible to imagine how the father could look his son in the eye as the 'adventure' turned sour and both had to watch each other die. Thankfully, it looks like they didn’t have to. Appears that it happened in mili seconds & they’d have known nothing about it. Tragic, but at least it was quick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, whelk said: Ask what Matt thinks. Everyone in that submarine was vaccinated just like Shane Warne. Coincidence? I fucking think not. Do your research Edited 22 June, 2023 by CB Fry 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 18 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: From the Titanic? Presumably not. Why would the USCG announce this and set a press conference for 20:00 GMT ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 38 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Thankfully, it looks like they didn’t have to. Appears that it happened in mili seconds & they’d have known nothing about it. Tragic, but at least it was quick. Yep, seems that way. If the structure failed and the sub imploded at that depth, they would have been crushed instantly. Much better way to go than suffocating to death one by one slowly in total darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 42 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Everyone in that submarine was vaccinated just like Shane Warne. Coincidence? I fucking think not. Do your research A submarine and a cross channel swimmer both vanish without trace in the same body of water in the space of 24 hours and all the sheeple think it’s just a coincidence. 😆 There’s clearly a genetically engineered megalodon out there and the mainstream meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeja are keeping it quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 22 June, 2023 Author Share Posted 22 June, 2023 55 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Presumably not. Why would the USCG announce this and set a press conference for 20:00 GMT ? Pretty much confirms it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 11 hours ago, egg said: The conspiracy theorists are at work on this - saw this nonsense this morning. Posted by a successful/academically intelligent bloke. Blimey, didn't know you had MLT on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 2 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Blimey, didn't know you had MLT on Facebook Ha!! It's an old mate of mine. Strong anti vaxer who thinks he'll make another fortune from his unvaxed sperm, bangs on about 5 minute cities, chem trails, now this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 The coastguard has confirmed at a press conference that they discovered the tail cone 1,600ft from the base of the Titanic. This then led them to a debris field which had a broken end of the pressure chamber, which then led them to a smaller debris field that contained other parts of the pressure chamber. The pattern/nature of the debris is consistent with having an explosion mid-journey caused by an implosion of the internal pressure chamber on the descent. They're continuing to search for debris/remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 Just now, CSA96 said: The coastguard has confirmed at a press conference that they discovered the tail cone 1,600ft from the base of the Titanic. This then led them to a debris field which had a broken end of the pressure chamber, which then led them to a smaller debris field that contained other parts of the pressure chamber. The pattern/nature of the debris is consistent with having an explosion mid-journey caused by an implosion of the internal pressure chamber on the descent. They're continuing to search for debris/remains. Just heard someone try and ask if they can recover the bodies. FML! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 22 June, 2023 Share Posted 22 June, 2023 Pretty tragic all round. Sounds like this must have happened soon after the dive started. I guess there’s some small solace in that it would have been almost instant, and for the people that have been involved in the search that there’s absolutely nothing they could have done differently. RIP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 29 June, 2023 Author Share Posted 29 June, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66049789 'Presumed remains'. Grisly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 29 June, 2023 Share Posted 29 June, 2023 38 minutes ago, skintsaint said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66049789 'Presumed remains'. Grisly. Down at that depth scavengers arrive very quickly and in surprising numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 June, 2023 Share Posted 29 June, 2023 11 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Down at that depth scavengers arrive very quickly and in surprising numbers. No, you’re thinking of sand people. In all seriousness though, they found some fairly well preserved remains in the wreckage of Air France 447, two years after it crashed in the mid Atlantic, so I’d imagine it’s a similar story here. I’d imagine they’re quite badly crushed and possibly burned, depending on the severity of the air pressure change.as skint says, grim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 June, 2023 Share Posted 29 June, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66045177 Who's feeling brave then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 29 June, 2023 Author Share Posted 29 June, 2023 10 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66045177 Who's feeling brave then? Is it operated by a joypad as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 29 June, 2023 Share Posted 29 June, 2023 Im absolutely baffled at the sheer amount of evidence coming out that this was effectively doomed from the start, and that there were significant safety concerns from experts etc And yet it was just allowed to continue ? Presumably it was framed as a commercial operation ? So waivers or not it is at best criminal negligence surely Its truly awful that somebody could effectively ignore and completely disregard any engineering advice and sign offs yet still push on this without a government body halting the operation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 29 June, 2023 Share Posted 29 June, 2023 8 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: Im absolutely baffled at the sheer amount of evidence coming out that this was effectively doomed from the start, and that there were significant safety concerns from experts etc And yet it was just allowed to continue ? Presumably it was framed as a commercial operation ? So waivers or not it is at best criminal negligence surely Its truly awful that somebody could effectively ignore and completely disregard any engineering advice and sign offs yet still push on this without a government body halting the operation Operating in international waters - nobody had jurisdiction. It would not have been allowed to operate in US / Canadian / UK / French etc waters without certification. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 29 June, 2023 Share Posted 29 June, 2023 30 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Operating in international waters - nobody had jurisdiction. It would not have been allowed to operate in US / Canadian / UK / French etc waters without certification. For fuck's sake! Where are those "international cabals" when there is serious bizznezz to attend to? Off planning the next world destroying virus no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 29 June, 2023 Share Posted 29 June, 2023 39 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Operating in international waters - nobody had jurisdiction. It would not have been allowed to operate in US / Canadian / UK / French etc waters without certification. Yeah… I still find it crazy how anyone is able to carry out, effectively a paid euthanasia operation and nobody can oppose it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 29 June, 2023 Share Posted 29 June, 2023 3 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: For fuck's sake! Where are those "international cabals" when there is serious bizznezz to attend to? Off planning the next world destroying virus no doubt. You know they can morph into mosquitos at any point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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