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31 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

Corrected.

Yep. 

I think the flattened Gaza is now some massive carpet to sweep all the Israeli government/IDF (lighthouse friendly description) war crimes under. 

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The IDF attacked and shot dead unarmed emergency staff driving in marked vehicles with full lights on, then buried the dead in their uniforms, including some with close up wounds associated with execution. They even buried the vehicles.

The IDF told the world that there were no emergency lights on, no emergency workers, the vehicles were unmarked and their soldiers had in fact wiped out a terrorist convoy.....then the evidence appeared from the mass grave, the lies were exposed, so they said they made 15 mistakes.

Serious question Hypo, which bit of that whole shooting do you not consider to be a war crime, and why has it confused you? 

 

 

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2 hours ago, rallyboy said:

The IDF attacked and shot dead unarmed emergency staff driving in marked vehicles with full lights on, then buried the dead in their uniforms, including some with close up wounds associated with execution. They even buried the vehicles.

The IDF told the world that there were no emergency lights on, no emergency workers, the vehicles were unmarked and their soldiers had in fact wiped out a terrorist convoy.....then the evidence appeared from the mass grave, the lies were exposed, so they said they made 15 mistakes.

Serious question Hypo, which bit of that whole shooting do you not consider to be a war crime, and why has it confused you? 

 

 

Looks like the troops involved gave a false account of what happened, conflicting evidence then emerged and the IDF subsequently admitted fault and promised a thorough investigation. I'd be expecting that sort of response from any nation involved in a conflict of this sort. 

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19 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Looks like the troops involved gave a false account of what happened, conflicting evidence then emerged and the IDF subsequently admitted fault and promised a thorough investigation. I'd be expecting that sort of response from any nation involved in a conflict of this sort. 

I'll repeat rallyboy's question -

"Serious question Hypo, which bit of that whole shooting do you not consider to be a war crime, and why has it confused you?"

And add to it -

Are there any circumstances in which you'd condemn the IDF/Israeli government? 

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1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

conflicting evidence then emerged and the IDF subsequently admitted fault and promised a thorough investigation. I'd be expecting that sort of response from any nation involved in a conflict of this sort. 

What actually emerged are the facts.

I understand who you mean when you describe the IDF/Israel as a nation, though I believe there are others who don't.

Does it concern you that the IDF/Israeli government has a very long history of misinformation along these lines and it's only when facts emerge that a half-apology is issued, and do you think the soldiers responsible who were clearly following orders, have anything to fear from their own internal war crime investigation?

Other than quiet reprimands for failing to check properly that all witnesses and evidence had been destroyed.

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58 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

What actually emerged are the facts.

I understand who you mean when you describe the IDF/Israel as a nation, though I believe there are others who don't.

Does it concern you that the IDF/Israeli government has a very long history of misinformation along these lines and it's only when facts emerge that a half-apology is issued, and do you think the soldiers responsible who were clearly following orders, have anything to fear from their own internal war crime investigation?

Other than quiet reprimands for failing to check properly that all witnesses and evidence had been destroyed.

I'm comfortable with waiting until the investigation has concluded before steaming in with criticism. Otherwise I'd just be criticising the IDF for some imagined future crime of being unduly lenient towards the perpetrator of a crime before they have actually done it. Any member of the IDF who is judged to have committed a crime should be properly dealt with the same as any other army during a war. 

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sadoldgit

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There have been countless claims of “alleged” war crimes but you won’t find hypochondriac criticising the IDF for any of them. In fact he thinks that it is appropriate to post laughing emojis instead.

Back to the IDF who, apparently, take great care in choosing their targets.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2025/4/7/live-israel-kills-43-in-gaza-orders-palestinians-in-deir-el-balah-to-flee

If the IDF want a kill zone why can’t they use their own land rather than encroaching further into Gaza and Palestinian land?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/07/israel-military-gaza-perimeter-land-testimony-report

 

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"At least 37 people have been killed in a series of Israeli strikes, most in areas where displaced civilians have set up tents, Gaza's Hamas-run civil defence agency says."

"Witnesses in al-Mawasi told the BBC that tents were engulfed in flames following a "powerful" explosion, causing the deaths of dozens of Palestinians including children. One man said he woke to "screaming and panic" and watched as "the flames spread rapidly from one tent to another".

Israel has previously told Palestinians to evacuate from other parts of Gaza to al-Mawasi."

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yrl891j23o

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The IDF now saying the emergency workers were massacred due to an "operational misunderstanding", and that " poor nighttime visibility" was a contributing factor.

Those flashing blue and red lights must have made it really difficult to identify the vehicles as ambulances.

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Weston Super Saint

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Maybe, just maybe, the tide is turning?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c175z14r8pro

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The voice in the Telegram video is insistent. Loud. Sometimes musical.

And the message unambiguous.

"All of Hamas, out!"

On the streets of Gaza, more and more Palestinians are expressing open defiance against the armed group that's ruled the strip for almost 20 years.

Many hold Hamas responsible for plunging the tiny, impoverished territory into the worst crisis faced by Palestinians in more than 70 years.

 

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On 20/04/2025 at 16:43, badgerx16 said:

The IDF now saying the emergency workers were massacred due to an "operational misunderstanding", and that " poor nighttime visibility" was a contributing factor.

Those flashing blue and red lights must have made it really difficult to identify the vehicles as ambulances.

The world's most advanced army, scuppered by something as simple as light. Can't have taken them by surprise, could it? Fucking genocidal pricks.

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