Israel

[hypochondriac]

Everyone with an interest in the conflict should listen to this. If you ignore the disgraceful people who can't listen to people talk who they disagree with, this speaker is 100% correct. 

https://x.com/jonsac/status/1865355843740344393?t=kY-UmxHcbZcHROTeXBuaNQ&s=19

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4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Everyone with an interest in the conflict should listen to this. If you ignore the disgraceful people who can't listen to people talk who they disagree with, this speaker is 100% correct. 

https://x.com/jonsac/status/1865355843740344393?t=kY-UmxHcbZcHROTeXBuaNQ&s=19

What's objective about the opinion piece of the son of a holocaust survivor and the grandfather of a Rabbi? Do you listen to or read stuff from biased people with a contrary view to you? 

[hypochondriac]

9 minutes ago, egg said:

What's objective about the opinion piece of the son of a holocaust survivor and the grandfather of a Rabbi? Do you listen to or read stuff from biased people with a contrary view to you? 

If I attend or consume content from the Oxford Union then yes. That's the reason for it's existence. Where did I claim the view in the video was unbiased? Like the speaker himself says, it's one side of an argument. He's also correct. 

Edited 7 December, 2024 by hypochondriac

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

If I attend or consume content from the Oxford debating society then yes. That's the reason for it's existence. Where did I claim the view in the video was unbiased? Like the speaker himself says, it's one side of an argument. He's also correct. 

What irks is your suggestion that people who take the opposite view to you "should" watch something that you acknowledge is biased. I don't have to do that and won', in the same way I'm in little doubt that you wouldn't take any interest in any a biased pro Palestinian opinion piece. 

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, egg said:

What irks is your suggestion that people who take the opposite view to you "should" watch something that you acknowledge is biased. I don't have to do that and won', in the same way I'm in little doubt that you wouldn't take any interest in any a biased pro Palestinian opinion piece. 

It's literally one side of the argument from the Oxford Union. I'd post the link to both side of the argument and suggest you watch that video, except that the Oxford Union edited parts out so it's not a true reflection of the argument. I'd still suggest you watch it and grapple with what is being said but as you've already said you won't I suspect that's a futile effort which is a shame really. 

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

It's literally one side of the argument from the Oxford Union. I'd post the link to both side of the argument and suggest you watch that video, except that the Oxford Union edited parts out so it's not a true reflection of the argument. I'd still suggest you watch it and grapple with what is being said but as you've already said you won't I suspect that's a futile effort which is a shame really. 

The debate has been done to death mate and I won't spend time listening to biased people expressing their opinions. You're correct though that nothing will persuade me that Israel are ok to grab land in the west bank, settle, abuse Palestinians, smash Gaza to pieces, oppose a Palestinian state, etc. 

[hypochondriac]

6 minutes ago, egg said:

The debate has been done to death mate and I won't spend time listening to biased people expressing their opinions. You're correct though that nothing will persuade me that Israel are ok to grab land in the west bank, settle, abuse Palestinians, smash Gaza to pieces, oppose a Palestinian state, etc. 

Lol. None so blind as those who cannot see. I suggest you steer clear of anything from the Oxford Union or indeed debates in general, lest you encounter an opposing argument. 

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

Lol. None so blind as those who cannot see. I suggest you steer clear of anything from the Oxford Union or indeed debates in general, lest you encounter an opposing argument. 

Ha!! I'll await your analysis of how you've carefully considered the case for the Palestinians. 

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, egg said:

Ha!! I'll await your analysis of how you've carefully considered the case for the Palestinians. 

Unlike you I've actually listened to it. 

[sadoldgit]

Apparently he is going to tell the truth, as he “remembers it”.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/10/benjamin-netanyahu-court-corruption-trial

[sadoldgit]

And still it goes on…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz9g4yl8j17o.amp