AlexLaw76 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: If Cameron & Biden are critical of Israel, then surely their record in Iraq & Libya are legitimate subjects to discuss. the USA are still annihilating parts of Syria - not that you would know on the news (or anyone gives a shit). But I am sure all the civilians displaced or killed have just been caught up in "friendly fire" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 6 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: “No skin in the game”. Apart from Hamas trying to blow me & Mrs Duck to high heaven you mean? You're lucky you weren't in Gaza mate, the Israeli's have proper weapons and clearly don't give a fuck who they kill to get at the Hamas cake boy. Anyways, you previously said that killing innocent people as collateral damage is ok, when Muslim are being killed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Just now, egg said: You're lucky you weren't in Gaza mate, the Israeli's have proper weapons and clearly don't give a fuck who they kill to get at the Hamas cake boy. Anyways, you previously said that killing innocent people as collateral damage is ok, when Muslim are being killed. seems that way for the significant majority of the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Just now, AlexLaw76 said: seems that way for the significant majority of the time... Most Muslims killed in conflict are killed by other Muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 Just now, badgerx16 said: Most Muslims killed in conflict are killed by other Muslims. Or Israeli's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 8 minutes ago, egg said: I appreciate it's easier to change the subject than to try to justify your views on the murderous Israeli regime, but I ain't playing that game. If you want to discuss past conflicts, start another thread. I’ve made my views very clear. Isreal need to wipe out Hamas, innocents will get killed in that process. Just like they did in every other frigging conflict since time began. Pointing out that innocent people died at weddings in aid convoys and in during previous conflicts is relevant to this thread, especially when the people responsible for those accidents are now piling in on Israel. I believe they call it “Friendly fire” when the yanks or NATO do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 Just now, Lord Duckhunter said: I’ve made my views very clear. Isreal need to wipe out Hamas, innocents will get killed in that process. Just like they did in every other frigging conflict since time began. Pointing out that innocent people died at weddings in aid convoys and in during previous conflicts is relevant to this thread, especially when the people responsible for those accidents are now piling in on Israel. I believe they call it “Friendly fire” when the yanks or NATO do it. If you want to look back in time, should we have wiped out the IRA? Given that you feel that what Israel are doing to Gaza is ok, presumably you would have been ok seeing Dublin, Derry etc, flattened? The infrastructure and churches destroyed? Loads of innocent people taken out in the process? Ask yourself why we didn't do that. Ask yourself if we now have relative peace on Ireland. Then ask yourself whether Israeli actions will achieve peace or something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 21 minutes ago, egg said: Anyways, you previously said that killing innocent people as collateral damage is ok, when Muslim are being killed. Perhaps you’d be kind enough to re post where I said it was ok when they were Muslims. I doubt I even mentioned religion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Perhaps you’d be kind enough to re post where I said it was ok when they were Muslims. I doubt I even mentioned religion . Stop avoiding questions. Would you have been ok with Britain doing to Ireland what Israel have done to Gaza? Yes or no. Would you have been ok with Britain regularly killing 20 innocent Irish people to kill one alleged low level IRA operative? Yes or no. Edited April 6 by egg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, egg said: Stop avoiding questions. Would you have been ok with Britain doing to Ireland what Israel have done to Gaza? Yes or no. Would you have been ok with Britain killing 20 innocent Irish people to kill one alleged low level IRA operative? Yes or no. Sod 20, the "people" voted for more of a UK government that was a major player in this...some people on here would vote for this lot again... Quote A study by the Iraqi Government in collaboration with the WHO estimates that there have been at least 150,000 “indirect deaths” during the five years spanning 2003-08. But a 2013 survey carried out by a group of American, Canadian, and Iraqi researchers states that there have been 461,000 “excess deaths” between 2003 and 2011. Edited April 6 by AlexLaw76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 hour ago, Fan The Flames said: But you haven't explained why this hamas islamic fatwa extends to the Israelis jewish armed forces. You're seeing the word innocent and running with it, into a bit of a dead end. WTF are you talking about? No Fatwa extends to Jews. Different religions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 Just now, Weston Super Saint said: WTF are you talking about? No Fatwa extends to Jews. Different religions. That's the point. Your point seemed to be that the Israeli killing of Palestinians was ok cos the Palestinians had issued a Fatwa. If that wasn't your point, wtf was your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 42 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: the USA are still annihilating parts of Syria - not that you would know on the news (or anyone gives a shit). But I am sure all the civilians displaced or killed have just been caught up in "friendly fire" Aintclever gives a shit. He's been all over this one, surely you can't have missed it? You know, what with his self proclaimed war against all innocent people being killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 15 minutes ago, egg said: Stop avoiding questions. Would you have been ok with Britain doing to Ireland what Israel have done to Gaza? Yes or no. Would you have been ok with Britain regularly killing 20 innocent Irish people to kill one alleged low level IRA operative? Yes or no. @Lord Duckhunter what's the answer? Were Irish lives as expendable as Muslim lives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, egg said: That's the point. Your point seemed to be that the Israeli killing of Palestinians was ok cos the Palestinians had issued a Fatwa. If that wasn't your point, wtf was your point? Re-read my posts. At no point have I said Israelis killing anyone is fine. I specifically said I don't condone it. You've created some straw man argument. All I've done is point out that according to Hamas and their extreme interpretation of Shari'a law, THEY don't even consider their own citizens to be "innocent". You seem to be fixated on judging this conflict with your Western interpretation of what is good and wholesome and just, but don't want to understand that religion is contrary to your western beliefs. Some might call that racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 Just now, Weston Super Saint said: Re-read my posts. At no point have I said Israelis killing anyone is fine. I specifically said I don't condone it. You've created some straw man argument. All I've done is point out that according to Hamas and their extreme interpretation of Shari'a law, THEY don't even consider their own citizens to be "innocent". You seem to be fixated on judging this conflict with your Western interpretation of what is good and wholesome and just, but don't want to understand that religion is contrary to your western beliefs. Some might call that racism. It's not just me who interpreted your words in the way that I did. If you want to make a point, perhaps be clearer and less flippant. You're better than throwing around daft allegations of racism Weston. In any event, Israel are an apparently civilised western nation and should be judged accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 12 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: WTF are you talking about? No Fatwa extends to Jews. Different religions. Too much coffee this morning Weston? A question was asked whether it was ok to kill innocent Palestinians. You said it was ok because no one is deemed innocent under a fatwa. And that you've pointed this out countless times but no one is listening. That bit's not important, just funny. So I asked how does that work, seeing as they are different sides, different religions etc To which you replied WTF are you talking about? 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Have we solved peace in the Middle East yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 7 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said: Too much coffee this morning Weston? A question was asked whether it was ok to kill innocent Palestinians. You said it was ok because no one is deemed innocent under a fatwa. And that you've pointed this out countless times but no one is listening. That bit's not important, just funny. So I asked how does that work, seeing as they are different sides, different religions etc To which you replied WTF are you talking about? 😆 Please quote the post where I said it was OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Have we solved peace in the Middle East yet? About as much as the tens of thousands of people who have marched on town halls up and down the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 1 minute ago, Weston Super Saint said: Please quote the post where I said it was OK. Question - Does war justify killing 20 innocent people for 1 low level target? Your - According to Shari'a law, there are no "innocent" people once a fatwah has been declared. FTF and I both interpreted that the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) 46 minutes ago, egg said: Stop avoiding questions. You’ve accused me of posting that I’m ok with innocent people dying because they were Muslim. That’s a pretty big accusation to make, and should be backed up with a link to the said post. Edited April 6 by Lord Duckhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, egg said: Question - Does war justify killing 20 innocent people for 1 low level target? Your - According to Shari'a law, there are no "innocent" people once a fatwah has been declared. FTF and I both interpreted that the same way. You interpreted it incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 20 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Have we solved peace in the Middle East yet? We should now have clear demarcation between the good guys and the baddies. it’s all ‘well documented’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said: You’ve accused me of posting that I’m ok with innocent people dying because they were Muslim. That’s a pretty big accusation to make, and should be backed up with a link to the said post. You said that killing 20 people in Gaza to kill one alleged low level alleged Hamas operative was acceptable. Those are Muslim deaths. It's a fact. There's no accusation - it's you and now Weston who've thrown the slurs around. What you are continually refusing to do is answer my hypothetical Ireland question. Those would have been non Muslim deaths. If you would have been ok with innocent Irish people being slayed to kill alleged low level IRA operatives then we've established that you're equally opportunities in your acceptance of innocent deaths. Only you can clarify your position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 25 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Have we solved peace in the Middle East yet? Whilst three of the World's major religions view it as Holy land, gifted to them by God, ( ironically, in effect the same God ), there won't be peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 15 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: You interpreted it incorrectly. Nah, you're rowing backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 hours ago, egg said: I ain't playing that game. If you want to discuss past conflicts, start another thread. 1 hour ago, egg said: should we have wiped out the IRA? Given that you feel that what Israel are doing to Gaza is ok, presumably you would have been ok seeing Dublin, Derry etc, flattened? The infrastructure and churches destroyed? Loads of innocent people taken out in the process? You’re all over the place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 57 minutes ago, egg said: Nah, you're rowing backwards. All rowing is backwards isn’t it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 18 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: You’re all over the place. There's only one interpretation of your refusal to say that you're an equal opportunities supporter of the mass killings of innocent civilians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 2 minutes ago, The Kraken said: All rowing is backwards isn’t it? Fair point 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 8 minutes ago, The Kraken said: All rowing is backwards isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Well that’s just bloody silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 50 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Well that’s just bloody silly. But at least you can see where you are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 3 hours ago, The Kraken said: Well that’s just bloody silly. Surely that's how you row around a boating lake. Boating lake row forwards; racing, commuting or smuggling row backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 5 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Have we solved peace in the Middle East yet? Not yet, but we will once we solve how to get Southampton to consistently score more than they let in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 21 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said: Not yet, but we will once we solve how to get Southampton to consistently score more than they let in. I reckon Miss Teen America should get the former sorted fairly soon. No hope for saints though, dream on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 05/04/2024 at 17:40, whelk said: I have no pretence on my views and comical how someone as dim as you thinks they understand. Clear where your antisemitic views lie and bet your little dinky gets a tingle at how you can now post and get likes from fellow saps who think you are someone who seeks peace. Mask slipped along time ago. Mask? Little Dinky? The more you post the more you sound like Duckhunter. From the start I have made it clear that I want both sides to stop the senseless slaughter and for the international community to put pressure on both to work towards a solution that is acceptable to all and will bring long term peace to the region. I expect that would involve the removal of Netanyahu’s extremist ultra nationalistic government along with the extremist Hamas government. That is not an antisemitic statement. Criticising Netanyahu, Ben-Gvir and the other far right cronies is not anti-semitism. Criticising the IDF for their tactics and indiscriminate killing of civilians, including Israeli Jews, is not anti- semitism. Saying that being pro-Palestinian doesn’t make you an antisemite is not antisemitism. Saying that being on the receiving end of genocide does not give you the right to do that to someone else is not antisemitism. This notion that you cannot criticise the Jewish government or its military without it being antisemitism is utter nonsense. I criticise our government all the time and not once do you call me anti British - the same with the American and Russian governments - not a peep. Why should the Israeli government be treated any differently? You go back and read my post over the years and you will only find criticism of extremists, be they factions like ISIS or state extremists like Putin and Netanyahu. The Russian people and the Jewish people deserve better. That is not an antisemitic statement. You and Duckhunter clearly do not have a problem with the indiscriminate killing of innocent Muslims and you constantly use the antisemitic slur to deflect from your basically inhuman views. 7 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Wonder who Soggy and co voted for in 2005, after the UK unleashed hell on the civilian population of entire cities in Iraq... LibDem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 What makes you an anti semite is writing but given the way that Jewish people have been discriminated against through the ages their treatment of the Palestinians does them no credit. You don’t get a free pass to crush someone or displace them just because it has happened to you in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 15 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Criticising Netanyahu, Ben-Gvir and the other far right cronies is not anti-semitism. Criticising the IDF for their tactics and indiscriminate killing of civilians, including Israeli Jews, is not anti- semitism. .......Israelis....... It is quite likely that non-Jewish Israelis were killed at the music festival. Do they not deserve to be acknowledged ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 9 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: Aintclever gives a shit. He's been all over this one, surely you can't have missed it? You know, what with his self proclaimed war against all innocent people being killed. Fuck me you are obsessed. I haven’t posted on here in over a day and you are name dropping me. PM me and I will put a signed photo in the post if you want? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 hours ago, sadoldgit said: You and Duckhunter clearly do not have a problem with the indiscriminate killing of innocent Muslims Always about religion with you isn’t it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Mask? Little Dinky? The more you post the more you sound like Duckhunter. From the start I have made it clear that I want both sides to stop the senseless slaughter and for the international community to put pressure on both to work towards a solution that is acceptable to all and will bring long term peace to the region. I expect that would involve the removal of Netanyahu’s extremist ultra nationalistic government along with the extremist Hamas government. That is not an antisemitic statement. Criticising Netanyahu, Ben-Gvir and the other far right cronies is not anti-semitism. Criticising the IDF for their tactics and indiscriminate killing of civilians, including Israeli Jews, is not anti- semitism. Saying that being pro-Palestinian doesn’t make you an antisemite is not antisemitism. Saying that being on the receiving end of genocide does not give you the right to do that to someone else is not antisemitism. This notion that you cannot criticise the Jewish government or its military without it being antisemitism is utter nonsense. I criticise our government all the time and not once do you call me anti British - the same with the American and Russian governments - not a peep. Why should the Israeli government be treated any differently? You go back and read my post over the years and you will only find criticism of extremists, be they factions like ISIS or state extremists like Putin and Netanyahu. The Russian people and the Jewish people deserve better. That is not an antisemitic statement. You and Duckhunter clearly do not have a problem with the indiscriminate killing of innocent Muslims and you constantly use the antisemitic slur to deflect from your basically inhuman views. LibDem. I know it pains you not to be seen as ‘the good guy’ but you are not. Suits you to think you are arguing with the bogeyman but easy to see where your loyalties lie and that is not covered with a token ‘I don’t condone what Hamas did on 7/10’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 10 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Wonder who Soggy and co voted for in 2005, after the UK unleashed hell on the civilian population of entire cities in Iraq... Lib Dem for me. I would happily see Blair and Bush in The Hague for the Iraq war. I thought that war was wrong just like I think what Israel is doing now is. It’s not just about the collateral damage, it’s the collective punishment - destroying homes and infrastructure and denying innocent people water, food and medical supplies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) On 05/04/2024 at 11:13, Lord Duckhunter said: Unlike you, I was there that day. I can tell you it wasn’t The IDF testing out their iron dome whilst I sat in a bomb shelter at Ben Gurion Airport. It was those “freedom fighters” from Hamas trying to blow me & Mrs Duck up. Innocent people trying to enjoy a well deserved holiday. A deliberate targeting of innocent civilians cheered on and celebrated by their supporters in Gaza. There’s absolutely no doubt who perpetrated those atrocities that day and it’s only anti semites who “doubt” who it was. Okay Ducky, it is time to put this nonsense to bed once and for all. 1. Aren’t you lucky that despite Hamas deliberately trying to kill you and the Snapdragon, you had the Iron Dome to protect you. 33,000 plus Palestinians weren’t quite so fortunate nor the tens of thousands who have been maimed. They will never get to enjoy another holiday if they ever had one before, but I am sure that doesn’t bother you at all, they are only Muslims after all. 2. Not once have I suggested that there is any “doubt” about who committed atrocities on 7th October. It was quite clearly Hamas and some other Islamic terrorist factions. What I did post was the report from the Israeli police that stated that the IDF were also responsible for the death of some Israelis and others due to their indiscriminate firing. This, note, was the finding of the Israeli police. Me posting their findings does not make me antisemitic to any normal, rational person. The actions of the IDF since 7th October have proved that they show absolutely no concern for innocent civilians when choosing targets. 3. This strange rationale that you have that everyone on the planet is open to criticism apart from Jewish people really is bizarre. By your logic a large majority of the planet are now antisemites because more and more people every day are calling out the actions of Netanyahu and his ultra nationalist government for what they are. Get your head around this. Jewish people are just as accountable for their actions as everyone else. 4. The people you so blindly defend are already under investigation for “plausible genocide”. Their staunchest allies tell them that they have gone too far. At some point even you are going to have to realise that by supporting monsters like Netanyahu and Ben-Gvir, it shows you up as having no moral compass and being just as bad as they are. 5. Most normal, rational people are sick to death of the way that the antisemetic card is played at every opportunity and is used as a get out of jail free card for actions that are just as heinous as those carried out on 7th October. There is no way that the actions of the IDF are proportionate and your constant defence of what has happened over the last 6 months displays a lack of humanity that is quite frankly disturbing. These people are human beings and no matter what you think of Muslims, they have exactly the same rights to life as the people you defend for committing what are clearly war crimes. 6. Netanyahu has managed to lose decades of goodwill that many had for Israel by his actions in Gaza and the West Bank. This has absolutely nothing to do with antisemitism and everything to do with people seeing this situation for what it is, an opportunity for the current Israeli government to crush the Palestinian people. 7. Go back and read what you said again. If you had been taken hostage while on holiday in Israel, the IDF would have had absolutely no problem in blasting you and your Snapdragon to bits. No more jolly holidays for two innocent holiday makers. (P.S. when the Islamic extremists were planning their attack on 7th October I doubt very much if they included deliberately targeting Lord Duckhunter and Lady Snapdragon. And if by some weird chance they did deliberately target you and your wife, why is that not okay when it is clearly ok to you that innocent Muslims are targeted?) 8. If there is a discussion about whether Jewish people are a race as well as followers of a religion, googling “are the Jews a race” does not make you antisemitic. It makes you inquisitive. 9. Because you have a basic hatred of certain parts of humanity along with a small number of other posters on here, it doesn’t follow that everybody else does. Not everyone is a bigot. 10. You and the small band here who clearly have issues with anything that you/they deem as remotely “woke” have been digging out people you see as “woke” for years. That includes me. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know that “woke” people do not spend their time hating on minority groups, quite the opposite in fact. I think that you would be very hard pushed to find anyone you label as being “woke” as being an antisemite (in any normal, rational definition of the word, not by your skewed definition). To spell it out for you, you can’t be “woke” and a religious/racial bigot too. To spell it out even further, no one would describe you and the people with the same opinions as you as remotely “woke”. No one having read my posts over the years would describe me as being remotely like you and the small band of people who post like you. I will say this for one last time, it is entirely possible to hold a government to account for crimes and policies against humanity whilst not hating the people of that country as a whole, or their religion. It is entirely possible to be sickened by the activities of the IDF and also by the activities of Islamic extremists. It doesn’t make anyone an antisemite. It makes them human. It doesn’t make someone a hippy to want to see peace and stability in the Middle East, or anywhere else for that matter. It is called basic humanity and you should try and extend it to all of the victims of this conflict, not just those with whom you spent your jolly holiday with. Edited April 8 by sadoldgit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 23 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Okay Ducky, it is time to put this nonsense to bed once and for all. 1. Aren’t you lucky that despite Hamas deliberately trying to kill you and the Snapdragon, you had the Iron Dome to protect you. 33,000 plus Palestinians weren’t quite so fortunate nor the tens of thousands who have been maimed. They will never get to enjoy another holiday if they ever had one before, but I am sure that doesn’t bother you at all, they are only Muslims after all. 2. Not once have I suggested that there is any “doubt” about who committed atrocities on 7th October. It was quite clearly Hamas and some other Islamic terrorist factions. What I did post was the report from the Israeli police that stated that the IDF were also responsible for the death of some Israelis and others due to their indiscriminate firing. This, note, was the finding of the Israeli police. Me posting their findings does not make me antisemitic to any normal, rational person. The actions of the IDF since 7th October have proved that they show absolutely no concern for innocent civilians when choosing targets. 3. This strange rationale that you have that everyone on the planet is open to criticism apart from Jewish people really is bizarre. By your logic a large majority of the planet are now antisemites because more and more people every day are calling out the actions of Netanyahu and his ultra nationalist government for what they are. Get your head around this. Jewish people are just as accountable for their actions as everyone else. 4. The people you so blindly defend are already under investigation for “plausible genocide”. Their staunchest allies tell them that they have gone too far. At some point even you are going to have to realise that by supporting monsters like Netanyahu and Ben-Gvir, it shows you up as having no moral compass and being just as bad as they are. 5. Most normal, rational people are sick to death of the way that the antisemetic card is played at every opportunity and is used as a get out of jail free card for actions that are just as heinous as those carried out on 7th October. There is no way that the actions of the IDF are proportionate and your constant defence of what has happened over the last 6 months displays a lack of humanity that is quite frankly disturbing. These people are human beings and no matter what you think of Muslims, they have exactly the same rights to life as the people you defend for committing what are clearly war crimes. 6. Netanyahu has managed to lose decades of goodwill that many had for Israel by his actions in Gaza and the West Bank. This has absolutely nothing to do with antisemitism and everything to do with people seeing this situation for what it is, an opportunity for the current Israeli government to crush the Palestinian people. 7. Go back and read what you said again. If you had been taken hostage while on holiday in Israel, the IDF would have had absolutely no problem in blasting you and your Snapdragon to bits. No more jolly holidays for two innocent holiday makers. (P.S. when the Islamic extremists were planning their attack on 7th October I doubt very much if they included deliberately targeting Lord Duckhunter and Lady Snapdragon. And if by some weird chance they did deliberately target you and your wife, why is that not okay when it is clearly ok to you that innocent Muslims are targeted?) What is it about Palestinians that make you care so much more than the plight of god knows how many other communities/parts of the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Starting to really worry about SOG’s mental health. Having conversations with imaginary people. Fair effort though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 16 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Jewish people are just as accountable for their actions as everyone else The mask slips again. Bit of advice. It would have been better to have written “Israelis are just as accountable for their actions as everyone else”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) 16 hours ago, sadoldgit said: googling “are the Jews a race” does not make you antisemitic. It makes you inquisitive. No, it makes you a fucking weirdo. Edited April 8 by Lord Duckhunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 3 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: The mask slips again. Bit of advice. It would have been better to have written “Israelis are just as accountable for their actions as everyone else”. It is not so much an everyday occurrence than an every post one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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