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Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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  On 10/02/2025 at 09:48, badgerx16 said:

The whatabout response might be to say that if Israel hadn't illegally occupied parts of the West Bank the Hamas attack might not have happened. There is a circular argument over cause and effect that can be dragged back to before WW2, but neither side of it can hide the fact that it is a shit show with no obvious solution, and hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent people will continue to die whilst arrogant, power hungry politicians, elected or self-appointed, play their ego games.

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Equally there is a circular argument that each side claims their deity gave them explicit permission to occupy the land, which reaches back hundreds of years.

badgerx16

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  On 10/02/2025 at 19:16, whelk said:

Not so

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Christianity and Islam are firmly rooted in Judaism, they all share prophets across their history, and the Torah is considered to be a Holy book in Islam..

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whelk

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  On 10/02/2025 at 21:05, badgerx16 said:

Christianity and Islam are firmly rooted in Judaism, they all share prophets across their history, and the Torah is considered to be a Holy book in Islam..

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I know that but the Christian god is not the same as Muslim’s. Muslim’s clearly don’t believe in Christ’s deity which is the fundamental of the gospel and the whole faith.

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badgerx16

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  On 10/02/2025 at 21:50, whelk said:

I know that but the Christian god is not the same as Muslim’s. Muslim’s clearly don’t believe in Christ’s deity which is the fundamental of the gospel and the whole faith.

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2 faces of the same coin, just as Protestants don't belive in transsubstantiation.

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"Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who says that Israel has "failed to keep its promises" regarding the ceasefire deal.

Speaking to press afterwards, Erdogan adds "the Israeli occupation should end once and for all". Their occupation "remains the core problem", he adds.

Erdogan says Turkey is sending aid to Gaza, and will continue to do so, while also calling for the establishment of an independent Palestinian state".

Some sense at last. 

hypochondriac

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Israel currently demanding that Hamas release their hostages as agreed by Saturday or they will resume fighting. As usual, the ball is in Hamas' court regarding what happens next. 

aintforever

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  On 11/02/2025 at 18:25, hypochondriac said:

Israel currently demanding that Hamas release their hostages as agreed by Saturday or they will resume fighting. As usual, the ball is in Hamas' court regarding what happens next. 

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Assuming Israel has kept their side of the deal.

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  On 11/02/2025 at 19:20, aintforever said:

Assuming Israel has kept their side of the deal.

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Which they seemingly haven't. I'm not sure Israel are saying that the Palestinian captives will be released on Saturday in exchange as per the original deal. Both sides need to do the right thing but it won't stop dinlo's like Hypo struggling to see that. 

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  On 15/02/2025 at 09:29, Turkish said:

Anyone else looking forward to planning a trip to the Gaza Riveria?

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The sad thing is that people will happily do so without batting an eyelid. I'm imagining something Vegas esque, but with marinas, promenades and a predominately Jewish population. 

Turkish

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  On 15/02/2025 at 12:11, egg said:

The sad thing is that people will happily do so without batting an eyelid. I'm imagining something Vegas esque, but with marinas, promenades and a predominately Jewish population. 

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A cross between vegas and Jewish version of Dubai, casinos everywhere, plus hotels. The type of people they love Dubai will lap it up. 

egg

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  On 15/02/2025 at 12:17, Turkish said:

A cross between vegas and Jewish version of Dubai, casinos everywhere, plus hotels. The type of people they love Dubai will lap it up. 

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Pretty much it, yep. Dubai plus a drinking/gambling/club culture will do well. Sadly. 

egg

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  On 15/02/2025 at 12:44, Weston Super Saint said:

Will it be warm enough though? I've only ever seen pictures of people wearing scarves. Must be cold all the time.

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There won't be any people wearing scarves there Weston as well you know. 

Turkish

Turkish

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  On 15/02/2025 at 13:14, egg said:

There won't be any people wearing scarves there Weston as well you know. 

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not even some half and half star of david/Palastine flag scarves to knock out to tourists given the ceasefire?

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rallyboy

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Murderous terrorists turn out to be bastards shock! Yeah, quite a surprise that. 

Not sure what point Hamas are trying to make by turning a solemn handover into a parade, thankfully they have zero support on here.

Another crap day for innocent Israelis and Palestinians.

 

spyinthesky

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  On 20/02/2025 at 18:14, badgerx16 said:

Same old, same old.....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing

"People drink, snack and pose for selfies against a background of explosions as Palestinian death toll mounts in ongoing offensive"

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Of course this is disgraceful and my heart goes out to the many innocent individuals in Gaza who have suffered terribly from Israel's retort to the Hamas attack.
All that said, I wonder what my sympathetic response would have been in WW2, after experiencing bombing here, if I knew what Dresden and other German cities were experiencing.
There also appears to be a 'fact' circulating on Social Media that the Israeli Govt knew about the impending Hamas attack and allowed it to proceed to give the green light to mass bombing in Gaza.

badgerx16

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  On 20/02/2025 at 18:57, spyinthesky said:

Of course this is disgraceful and my heart goes out to the many innocent individuals in Gaza who have suffered terribly from Israel's retort to the Hamas attack.
All that said, I wonder what my sympathetic response would have been in WW2, after experiencing bombing here, if I knew what Dresden and other German cities were experiencing.
There also appears to be a 'fact' circulating on Social Media that the Israeli Govt knew about the impending Hamas attack and allowed it to proceed to give the green light to mass bombing in Gaza.

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There is a lot of evidence that suggests they had enough 'intelligence' from the observation posts and drone surveillance that HAMAS were planning something, but some Israeli media has claimed that this was down-rated as the military observers were female.

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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  On 20/02/2025 at 19:18, Farmer Saint said:

In unsurprising news, it turns out both Hamas and Israelis are utter cunts.

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It’s not just Hamas though is it, it’s thousands of  Gazans who were celebrating. Celebrating. 

And most Israeli  are not “utter cunts”. 
 

 

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Farmer Saint

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  On 20/02/2025 at 20:37, Lord Duckhunter said:

It’s not just Hamas though is it, it’s thousands of  Gazans who were celebrating. Celebrating. 

And most Israeli  are not “utter cunts”. 
 

 

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Not all Gazan's are either though. So I guess the headline is "Some Gazan's and some Israelis are utter cunts, but one lot has killed far more of the other lot."

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Lord Duckhunter

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  On 20/02/2025 at 20:53, Farmer Saint said:

Not all Gazan's are either

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Most are, you wouldn’t see scenes like that in Tel Aviv if the IDF were handing over 2 dead babies taken hostage and killed. Music, dancing, bringing their kids along. Dear god…There is no equivalence today. Even the Red Cross are said to hebe been sickened by the behaviour and Saudi Arabia's Grand Mufti, didn’t come come out the  whataboutery, like some English cunts have…

"What we saw today in Gaza is a disgrace to Islam, an act of blasphemy against Allah, and a sin that does not represent the followers of the Prophet, peace be upon him, or the honorable religion of Islam.”

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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  On 20/02/2025 at 21:07, Lord Duckhunter said:

Most are, you wouldn’t see scenes like that in Tel Aviv if the IDF were handing over 2 dead babies taken hostage and killed. Music, dancing, bringing their kids along. Dear god…There is no equivalence today.

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Probably killing 50k of your children, friends and relatives, and destroying everything you own Vs a bit of cheering.

I know which I'd prefer to be on the end of.

whelk

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  On 20/02/2025 at 21:10, Farmer Saint said:

Probably killing 50k of your children, friends and relatives, and destroying everything you own Vs a bit of cheering.

I know which I'd prefer to be on the end of.

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They were cheering raping and butchering innocent people and boasting in WhatsApp on Oct 7th. But ignore that eh

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Farmer Saint

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  On 20/02/2025 at 21:26, whelk said:

They were cheering raping and butchering innocent people and boasting in WhatsApp on Oct 7th. But ignore that eh

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I'm not ignoring that. Don't ignore that the Israelis have also killed 14k children.

Just because one side are baddies doesn't mean the other side has to be goodies.

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egg

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  On 20/02/2025 at 17:56, Lord Duckhunter said:

Dear God…

 

 

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Disgraceful 

  On 20/02/2025 at 18:14, badgerx16 said:

Same old, same old.....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing

"People drink, snack and pose for selfies against a background of explosions as Palestinian death toll mounts in ongoing offensive"

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Disgraceful 

I'm still amazed that people refuse to acknowledge that the behaviour of both sides is appalling. They don't have to be equally bad to do that. That said, Hamas behaviour today was a disgrace, but there's no denying that watching the bombing of Gaza as if it's a spectator sport is appalling. Nobody should be celebrating the deaths of innocent people. 

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sadoldgit

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Exactly this. You would have to have a heart of stone not to be appalled at the butchery inflicted by both sides against the other on innocent people and the pictures of the desolate remains of the Gaza Strip which stands as yet more testimony against man’s inhumanity against his fellow man. As has been said many times on this thread, there are no goodies and baddies here, just a bloodlust from the extremists on both sides of the divide and piles of innocent dead bodies of the people who have paid the price for the warped ideologies of others.

Neither side can claim any moral high ground.

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Turkish

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  On 21/02/2025 at 09:51, sadoldgit said:

Exactly this. You would have to have a heart of stone not to be appalled at the butchery inflicted by both sides against the other on innocent people and the pictures of the desolate remains of the Gaza Strip which stands as yet more testimony against man’s inhumanity against his fellow man. As has been said many times on this thread, there are no goodies and baddies here, just a bloodlust from the extremists on both sides of the divide and piles of innocent dead bodies of the people who have paid the price for the warped ideologies of others.

Neither side can claim any moral high ground.

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Why do you only call one side out though?

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Gloucester Saint

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  On 21/02/2025 at 09:57, Turkish said:

Why do you only call one side out though?

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You could say exactly the same about other posters on here though.

Simple for me - behaviour of the extremists in both movements is wholly unacceptable and unlikely to lead any solutions either of the populations can get behind. Hamas and Zionism are not doing them any favours. 

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sadoldgit

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  On 21/02/2025 at 09:57, Turkish said:

Why do you only call one side out though?

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Here we go again. If you ever bothered to pay attention you would know that I called Hamas out after the attack on 7th October. If you hadn’t noticed, it has been pretty much one way traffic the other way since then. Or am I supposed to mention 7th October after every one of the attacks by the IDF since then? 
 


As with the other but more important  narcissist, you live in a disinformation bubble.
Shouldn't you be delivering for your boss? How are things at Dominoes by the way?

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Turkish

Turkish

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  On 21/02/2025 at 13:06, sadoldgit said:

Here we go again. If you ever bothered to pay attention you would know that I called Hamas out after the attack on 7th October. If you hadn’t noticed, it has been pretty much one way traffic the other way since then. Or am I supposed to mention 7th October after every one of the attacks by the IDF since then? 
 


As with the other but more important  narcissist, you live in a disinformation bubble.
Shouldn't you be delivering for your boss? How are things at Dominoes by the way?

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Oh look, SOG gets all defensive and starts name calling and on the attack as usual, tragic

As for "delivering for my boss" this isn't how the modern world is SOG i told you think before i dont deliver for my boss, i deliver solutions to my customers challenges and needs. You know like if someone wants a pizza that's not on the main menu, or they want to add an additional topping. Bit like the days when you used to make sure your team had enough paperclips. 

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Holmes_and_Watson

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  On 21/02/2025 at 13:11, Turkish said:

Oh look, SOG gets all defensive and starts name calling and on the attack as usual, tragic

As for "delivering for my boss" this isn't how the modern world is SOG i told you think before i dont deliver for my boss, i deliver solutions to my customers challenges and needs. You know like if someone wants a pizza that's not on the main menu, or they want to add an additional topping. Bit like the days when you used to make sure your team had enough paperclips. 

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Just picking up on the work/life balance changes since the days of SOG doing nothing to stop bosses mimicking squirting breast milk in front of employees.

Our current raft of mandatory training modules not only includes the safe/confidential use of social media. But it's also included as part of everyone's day and promotes that as a way of using balance to be productive and better at both. So, hardly frowned upon.

Right, back to SOG pretending the hostages were safer with Hamas.

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Turkish

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  On 21/02/2025 at 15:13, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Just picking up on the work/life balance changes since the days of SOG doing nothing to stop bosses mimicking squirting breast milk in front of employees.

Our current raft of mandatory training modules not only includes the safe/confidential use of social media. But it's also included as part of everyone's day and promotes that as a way of using balance to be productive and better at both. So, hardly frowned upon.

Right, back to SOG pretending the hostages were safer with Hamas.

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It's quite sweet how he thinks him catching me on here during the working day is some sort of gotcha, i can imagine him prowling the typing office floor like an angry corporal ready to bollock anyone who wasn't toeing the line, asking his favourite young ladies to "go and make me a coffee love" and making quips to the other managers about how he'll be hanging out the back of her at the Christmas party. 

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