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badgerx16

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1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

But no one had to die. Get the cease fire sorted and negotiate a deal for the release. No danger to the IDF. No danger to the hostages. No danger to the civilians.

Not a chance whilst Netanyahu is in charge unless the US get serious.

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whelk

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2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

But no one had to die. Get the cease fire sorted and negotiate a deal for the release. No danger to the IDF. No danger to the hostages. No danger to the civilians.

You’re such a simpleton 

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Turkish

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8 minutes ago, whelk said:

No one needs to commit crimes. I have no idea why we have prisons or a police force. 

Just tell criminals to stop, job done. 

Lighthouse

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Fucking hell, can’t Granty put the subscription up to £20..

For £50 we offer the deluxe membership - You can limit a poster of your choosing to one post per week.

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Holmes_and_Watson

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I popped the Village Idiot Society's Village Idiot of the Decade on ignore for the day yesterday. Going by the responses, I've missed another day of jaw dropping whataboutery, deflection and ignorance.

When I saw hostages were freed, I remembered Soggy telling us that they were much safer with Hamas. I guess they and their families are giving the IDF a real telling off.

Terrible to see the casualties. Sadly Soggy's master plan for conflict resolution doesn't translate into the real world. If only it were that simple, like he is.

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Lord Duckhunter

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7 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

When I saw hostages were freed, I remembered Soggy telling us that they were much safer with Hamas. I guess they and their families are giving the IDF a real telling off.

It was horrific watching the hostages struggling to stay in Gaza. Those Hsmas barbarians were chucking them back to the IDF. Horrific. There was also a demo in Tel Aviv today, “send them back” is the chant. The IDF are going to lose support at this rate 

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AlexLaw76

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2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

It was horrific watching the hostages struggling to stay in Gaza. Those Hsmas barbarians were chucking them back to the IDF. Horrific. There was also a demo in Tel Aviv today, “send them back” is the chant. The IDF are going to lose support at this rate 

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egg

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1 minute ago, Fan The Flames said:

Every hostage release is something to celebrate. 7 released through IDF actions, 109 through negotiations.

Regardless of the human cost, or likely impact on negotiating a settlement? As pleasing as it was to see 4 hostages freed, almost 300 Palestinians and 3 Israeli hostages killed, and 700 + Palestinians injured, in the process somewhat dilutes the celebration. 

Fan The Flames

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17 minutes ago, egg said:

Regardless of the human cost, or likely impact on negotiating a settlement? As pleasing as it was to see 4 hostages freed, almost 300 Palestinians and 3 Israeli hostages killed, and 700 + Palestinians injured, in the process somewhat dilutes the celebration. 

No you're right, wrong word. 

sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

:mcinnes:

If only they had acted on the intelligence they had the time, perhaps all of this death and destruction could have been avoided? Still, the Israeli government can do no wrong, eh Duckie?

🤦🏼‍♂️

badgerx16

badgerx16

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1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

If only they had acted on the intelligence they had the time, perhaps all of this death and destruction could have been avoided? Still, the Israeli government can do no wrong, eh Duckie?

🤦🏼‍♂️

If only these allegations hadn't already been raised and discussed earlier on the thread. There is a reason that the term 'Military Intelligence' is viewed as a classic example of a contradiction in terms.

Given that Gaza was, other than the Korean DMZ, the most heavily surveilled piece of land on Earth, it would have been almost impossible for the IDF monitoring staff not to notice. As was noted in the earlier discussion, many of the troops carrying out the intelligence gathering were female conscripts, and they were overlooked as much due to mysogeny as incompetence by their superiors.

 Ultimately the IDF simply did not believe that HAMAS was capable of launching an attack on that scale.

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egg

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On 20/06/2024 at 17:53, sadoldgit said:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/netanyahu-hits-out-at-military-after-spokesperson-says-hamas-cannot-be-eliminated/ar-BB1oACVV?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=b3936e6a76004939819c18defa9bdd0e&ei=12
 

This has been said for months, you can’t defeat an idea. At some point Netanyahu is going to have to accept that he can’t defeat Hamas

Bloody obvious from day 1. You can reduce a threat, but you cannot defeat an ideology. You just fuel it. 

Duck being a daft prick and laughing again I see. Bless him. 

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sadoldgit

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1 hour ago, egg said:

Bloody obvious from day 1. You can reduce a threat, but you cannot defeat an ideology. You just fuel it. 

Duck being a daft prick and laughing again I see. Bless him. 

You have to be a certain kind of “special” to find anything remotely funny about the situation in Gaza.

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egg

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43 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Little wonder the Palestinians are fighting back.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/24/israeli-far-right-minister-bezalel-smotrich-annex-west-bank

Yep. He is "establish[ing] facts on the ground in order to make Judea and Samaria [an Israeli term for the occupied West Bank] an integral part of the state of Israel”, and “We will establish sovereignty … first on the ground and then through legislation. I intend to legalise the young settlements [illegal outposts],” Smotrich said in comments reported by Haaretz. “My life’s mission is to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state.”

And several on here insist that this mess is down to just the Palestinians. 

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rallyboy

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What's funny about soldiers and settlers bulldozing family homes and dumping kids in the street?

An emoji that definitely wasn't thought through and looks horrendous in the cold light of day.

But, but, I meant something else....

No you didn't.

 

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sadoldgit

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9 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

What's funny about soldiers and settlers bulldozing family homes and dumping kids in the street?

An emoji that definitely wasn't thought through and looks horrendous in the cold light of day.

But, but, I meant something else....

No you didn't.

 

Oh but it was thought through, which makes it even more horrendous.

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sadoldgit

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Perhaps he would like to ask himself how many laughing emojis there were after 7th October. Perhaps that will help him put his behaviour into some kind of context?

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egg

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2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Not before time. Hopefully more pressure will be put on the Hamas leaders to seek a peaceful settlement.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0vewvp14zdo.amp

The same in Israel…

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/6/22/all-of-the-rats-in-the-knesset-mass-anti-war-protest-in-israel

I'm not sure there's enough anti government feeling in either Gaza or Israel yet to make the leaders feel compelled to do something. 

badgerx16

badgerx16

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18 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Did he announce it then? I must have missed that.

The proceedings of the ICC are published, so our objections would have been visible.

sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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24 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

The proceedings of the ICC are published, so our objections would have been visible.

A bit different to the government making an announcement though.

badgerx16

badgerx16

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2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

A bit different to the government making an announcement though.

No reason why the Fail, Mirror, or Grauniad couldn't print it though. Or perhaps SKY or the BBC TV news.

You can blame Rishi for a lot of things, but not EVERYTHING.

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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10 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

No reason why the Fail, Mirror, or Grauniad couldn't print it though. Or perhaps SKY or the BBC TV news.

You can blame Rishi for a lot of things, but not EVERYTHING.

Maybe they all missed it as they were focussed on the election, but they are not the PM and it is not their job to announce government decisions. I am not blaming him for EVERYTHING. I am blaming him for not announcing something that might well have caused him some problems electorally. It didn’t have to be a major announcement, but government briefings are sent out all the time.

You seem to be morphing into Weston.

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Maybe they all missed it as they were focussed on the election, but they are not the PM and it is not their job to announce government decisions. I am not blaming him for EVERYTHING. I am blaming him for not announcing something that might well have caused him some problems electorally. It didn’t have to be a major announcement, but government briefings are sent out all the time.

If it was going to cause problems then it is no wonder he didn't announce it. He had enough shit flying around already.

sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

If it was going to cause problems then it is no wonder he didn't announce it. He had enough shit flying around already.

Which was my point.

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