Le Tissier and Simon Jordan

[AlexLaw76]

 

[SaintsLoyal]

A pair of sad idiots. 

[The Cat]

Noticed recently that Matty has been lured into promoting CBD on Twitter. 

Nothing against it as a pain treatment but he seems to have gone in hard and quick on it. 

[AlexLaw76]

10 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

A pair of sad idiots. 

🤣

[Saintscummer]

Great listen. He is not as whacko as I thought he was. He has a strong opinion and backs himself. 
 

I see nothing wrong with that. 
 

Simon Jordan was right up his arse though. Bit of a love in. 
 

well worth the listen imo. Killed about 90 mins of a long car journey 

[Farmer Saint]

26 minutes ago, The Cat said:

Noticed recently that Matty has been lured into promoting CBD on Twitter. 

Nothing against it as a pain treatment but he seems to have gone in hard and quick on it. 

I use CBD for anxiety - it's really quite good. 

[Toussaint]

57 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

A pair of sad idiots. 

How ironic 

[stevy777_x]

45 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I use CBD for anxiety - it's really quite good. 

What about going to a shrink to try and identify the root cause of it instead of relying on medecine?

[Toussaint]

52 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I use CBD for anxiety - it's really quite good. 

I bought some during lockdown, I can’t recall any benefit, unless I bought fake crap with fake reviews, from Amazon 

[Farmer Saint]

12 minutes ago, stevy777_x said:

What about going to a shrink to try and identify the root cause of it instead of relying on medecine?

Mainly because anxiety isn't a "root cause" form of depression.

Its not a "oh shit, I've just remembered I was touched as a kid" kind of thing. It's an "I'm wired slightly wrong" kinda thing, which relies on coping mechanisms to deal with it. This is one of those things that takes the edge off. 

Also, why would you automatically think I haven't? 

Edited 8 June, 2023 by Farmer Saint

[Farmer Saint]

3 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I bought some during lockdown, I can’t recall any benefit, unless I bought fake crap with fake reviews, from Amazon 

It depends what you're expecting out of it. For me it takes the edge off on a day to day basis. 

I wouldn't buy them off Amazon though tbf. I think I pay around £45 for 30 gummies (1 a day). 

[bangkoksaint]

1 hour ago, Saintscummer said:

Great listen. He is not as whacko as I thought he was. He has a strong opinion and backs himself. 
 

I see nothing wrong with that. 
 

Simon Jordan was right up his arse though. Bit of a love in. 
 

well worth the listen imo. Killed about 90 mins of a long car journey 

Similar to his career…had great ability and backed himself 

[Paul Chuckle]

Enjoyed watching that and listening to what they had to say. 

Didn't realise Simon Jordan tried to sign Le Tissier at Palace in 2001 on the recommendation of Glenn Cockerill. If he had wanted to sign him to prop up the bar at Croydon's Jumpin Jack's then he'd have been a great signing, however playing in the championship (div 1) at that stage of his career would have been a disaster for all involved.

[obelisk]

MLT a pretty good footballer but off his trolley on other matters.

[Lighthouse]

The absolute ludicrous irony of Tiss promoting medicine for mental health problems when less than 0.1% of people commit suicide every year.

[Raging Bull]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

The absolute ludicrous irony of Tiss promoting medicine for mental health problems when less than 0.1% of people commit suicide every year.

wow! 

You really are quite an unlikable person aren’t you…

[Saint_clark]

11 minutes ago, Raging Bull said:

wow! 

You really are quite an unlikable person aren’t you…

I think Lighthouse is a bit strong in his language from time to time but I think you may have misunderstood the point he's making here.

[Roo1976]

4 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

brilliant listen.........................

[Saintscummer]

6 hours ago, Raging Bull said:

wow! 

You really are quite an unlikable person aren’t you…

What’s 0.1 percent of 70 million people ? 

[Lighthouse]

6 hours ago, Raging Bull said:

wow! 

You really are quite an unlikable person aren’t you…

Well, you’ve correctly identified the callousness and ignorance of holding that particular viewpoint regarding other people’s health problems but as Clark said, you’ve missed the actual point of the post. So if you think I’m ‘quite an unlikable person’; fine but it’s not really me you’re talking about, it’s Tiss. He’s been tweeting his COVID conspiracy drivel for three years and strangely some still try and defend him.

[Raging Bull]

10 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

I think Lighthouse is a bit strong in his language from time to time but I think you may have misunderstood the point he's making here.

I understand perfectly the point he’s making 

3 hours ago, Saintscummer said:

What’s 0.1 percent of 70 million people ? 

70’000 people 

3 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Well, you’ve correctly identified the callousness and ignorance of holding that particular viewpoint regarding other people’s health problems but as Clark said, you’ve missed the actual point of the post. So if you think I’m ‘quite an unlikable person’; fine but it’s not really me you’re talking about, it’s Tiss. He’s been tweeting his COVID conspiracy drivel for three years and strangely some still try and defend him.

Ok, I know I’m going to regret this because it’s going to trigger a few people on here (like @SaintsLoyal), but I’ve spoken to Matt on this subject a few times. 

All he wants is an open debate on mainstream media on big issues like the continued excesses death rate that’s been running at between 15-20% (more than double that of covid times) since the middle of 2022 in this country alone. 
 

Why is it that country by country, the higher the vaccine take up, the higher the excess deaths. 
 

What’s causing those excesses deaths and why aren’t we hearing about it from the guys that were constantly on our screens telling us about the excess death rate day in day out during covid? 
 

We know that only a tiny percentage of it is attributed to covid and missed appointments, especially now, so what’s the cause? 
 

Why all of a sudden, after decades of religiously publishing vaccine injury data every 6-8 weeks did this information suddenly disappear in May 2022 and hasn’t been updated until recently. 
 

All that needs to happen is to have an open debate between people who are looking at the data and seeing major problems, and those that are saying it’s just a conspiracy. 
 

If those that are saying there’s a problem are wrong, then debate them openly and publicly and show them/us why it’s wrong. 
 

I don’t think that’s much to ask, but it’s never going to happen. 

Edited 9 June, 2023 by Raging Bull

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, Raging Bull said:

All he wants is an open debate on mainstream media on big issues like the continued excesses death rate that’s been running at between 15-20% (more than double that of covid times) since the middle of 2022 in this country alone. 

He wants absolutely nothing of the sort, what he wants is quite simple; attention. 30 years ago he was the maverick footballer, the icon, the contrarian who took the p*ss and was idolised by tens of thousands because of it. Now he’s desperately trying to recreate that feeling and it’s honestly just sad to watch. He had a respectable job as a talking head on a half decent panel show but it wasn’t enough for him, so now he spends his days endlessly posting this crap, stuck in an internet circle-jerk with Far-Right Said Fred, that lunatic Cornish nurse and a whole clique of struck off chiropractors and dieticians with ‘dr’ in their Twitter handle. The pandemic is over, nobody else cares any more, I’m not even going to bother looking at that bunch of no-context statistics because they’re all just turds, hooked out of the cesspool that is Twitter.

The supreme irony of all this is that when there were genuine concerns about the side effects of the Astra Zeneca vaccine, in a very small number of Scandinavian patients, they were publicised, reported in the mainstream media and that jab was pulled from use on all under 35s. So all the crap he keeps bleating about has actually happened, just not in a way which is as scary as he would like.

[sydney_saint]

1 hour ago, Raging Bull said:

I understand perfectly the point he’s making 

70’000 people 

Ok, I know I’m going to regret this because it’s going to trigger a few people on here (like @SaintsLoyal), but I’ve spoken to Matt on this subject a few times. 

All he wants is an open debate on mainstream media on big issues like the continued excesses death rate that’s been running at between 15-20% (more than double that of covid times) since the middle of 2022 in this country alone. 
 

Why is it that country by country, the higher the vaccine take up, the higher the excess deaths. 
 

What’s causing those excesses deaths and why aren’t we hearing about it from the guys that were constantly on our screens telling us about the excess death rate day in day out during covid? 
 

We know that only a tiny percentage of it is attributed to covid and missed appointments, especially now, so what’s the cause? 
 

Why all of a sudden, after decades of religiously publishing vaccine injury data every 6-8 weeks did this information suddenly disappear until recently. 
 

All that needs to happen is to have an open debate between people who are looking at the data and seeing major problems, and those that are saying it’s just a conspiracy. 
 

If those that are saying there’s a problem are wrong, then debate them openly and publicly and show them/us why it’s wrong. 
 

I don’t think that’s much to ask, but it’s never going to happen. 

I mean, in 60 seconds of research I found a huge number of articles from the 'MSM'' from across the political spectrum. I don't think it's this big hidden conspiracy you think it is. Though you don't help your case when you quote the wrong stats, or in some cases, simply make them up (like the 15-20% since mid 2022)

The guardian https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/15/britain-excess-death-rate-covid-nhs-cost-of-living

BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64209221

Research Professional News https://www.researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-uk-politics-2023-1-uk-s-pattern-of-excess-deaths-deserves-close-scrutiny/

Sky News https://news.sky.com/story/excess-deaths-reach-highest-level-since-pandemic-peak-how-much-are-nhs-failings-to-blame-12780446

The Spectator https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/sweden-covid-and-excess-deaths-a-look-at-the-data/

[sydney_saint]

4 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

He wants absolutely nothing of the sort, what he wants is quite simple; attention. 30 years ago he was the maverick footballer, the icon, the contrarian who took the p*ss and was idolised by tens of thousands because of it. Now he’s desperately trying to recreate that feeling and it’s honestly just sad to watch. He had a respectable job as a talking head on a half decent panel show but it wasn’t enough for him, so now he spends his days endlessly posting this crap, stuck in an internet circle-jerk with Far-Right Said Fred, that lunatic Cornish nurse and a whole clique of struck off chiropractors and dieticians with ‘dr’ in their Twitter handle. The pandemic is over, nobody else cares any more, I’m not even going to bother looking at that bunch of no-context statistics because they’re all just turds, hooked out of the cesspool that is Twitter.

The supreme irony of all this is that when there were genuine concerns about the side effects of the Astra Zeneca vaccine, in a very small number of Scandinavian patients, they were publicised, reported in the mainstream media and that jab was pulled from use on all under 35s. So all the crap he keeps bleating about has actually happened, just not in a way which is as scary as he would like.

Exactly this. The reason why he is 'not invited to the debate' is because he has nothing to add except cherry picked data, ignoring other data, and in some case including  utterly false statistics. He literally has no expertise or even wider understanding that can add anything. But it gives him the opportunity to scream that he is been cancelled, even though he literally had nothing to add except regurgitated information he discovered on the internet, usually from dodgy sources. But hey, it makes him the victim and centre of attention right

[JRM]

15 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

Thanks for sharing, enjoyed that, top man Le Tiss 

[Patrick Bateman]

15 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

That was interesting! Best thing I've watched on the internet for a while.

[AlexLaw76]

59 minutes ago, sydney_saint said:

Exactly this. The reason why he is 'not invited to the debate' is because he has nothing to add except cherry picked data, ignoring other data, and in some case including  utterly false statistics. He literally has no expertise or even wider understanding that can add anything. But it gives him the opportunity to scream that he is been cancelled, even though he literally had nothing to add except regurgitated information he discovered on the internet, usually from dodgy sources. But hey, it makes him the victim and centre of attention right

that was what everyone was doing though. The Government even had 'units' suppressing debate/disent. People even wanted more lockdowns ffs

[magnet]

3 hours ago, Raging Bull said:

I understand perfectly the point he’s making 

70’000 people 

Ok, I know I’m going to regret this because it’s going to trigger a few people on here (like @SaintsLoyal), but I’ve spoken to Matt on this subject a few times. 

All he wants is an open debate on mainstream media on big issues like the continued excesses death rate that’s been running at between 15-20% (more than double that of covid times) since the middle of 2022 in this country alone. 
 

Why is it that country by country, the higher the vaccine take up, the higher the excess deaths. 
 

What’s causing those excesses deaths and why aren’t we hearing about it from the guys that were constantly on our screens telling us about the excess death rate day in day out during covid? 
 

We know that only a tiny percentage of it is attributed to covid and missed appointments, especially now, so what’s the cause? 
 

Why all of a sudden, after decades of religiously publishing vaccine injury data every 6-8 weeks did this information suddenly disappear in May 2022 and hasn’t been updated until recently. 
 

All that needs to happen is to have an open debate between people who are looking at the data and seeing major problems, and those that are saying it’s just a conspiracy. 
 

If those that are saying there’s a problem are wrong, then debate them openly and publicly and show them/us why it’s wrong. 
 

I don’t think that’s much to ask, but it’s never going to happen. 

You're absolutely wasting your time on hear trying to debate this, even though excess deaths are about 2500 a week now as to 600 at the hight of the pandemic people will still ignore the facts.

Tiss said Vaccines aren't working and appear to have bad side effects in people and most called him a conspiracy loon and still are laughably!

[benjii]

16 hours ago, The Cat said:

Noticed recently that Matty has been lured into promoting CBD on Twitter. 

Nothing against it as a pain treatment but he seems to have gone in hard and quick on it. 

Sprinkles some into his malibu 

[aintforever]

3 hours ago, Raging Bull said:

I understand perfectly the point he’s making 

70’000 people 

Ok, I know I’m going to regret this because it’s going to trigger a few people on here (like @SaintsLoyal), but I’ve spoken to Matt on this subject a few times. 

All he wants is an open debate on mainstream media on big issues like the continued excesses death rate that’s been running at between 15-20% (more than double that of covid times) since the middle of 2022 in this country alone. 
 

Why is it that country by country, the higher the vaccine take up, the higher the excess deaths. 
 

What’s causing those excesses deaths and why aren’t we hearing about it from the guys that were constantly on our screens telling us about the excess death rate day in day out during covid? 
 

We know that only a tiny percentage of it is attributed to covid and missed appointments, especially now, so what’s the cause? 
 

Why all of a sudden, after decades of religiously publishing vaccine injury data every 6-8 weeks did this information suddenly disappear in May 2022 and hasn’t been updated until recently. 
 

All that needs to happen is to have an open debate between people who are looking at the data and seeing major problems, and those that are saying it’s just a conspiracy. 
 

If those that are saying there’s a problem are wrong, then debate them openly and publicly and show them/us why it’s wrong. 
 

I don’t think that’s much to ask, but it’s never going to happen. 

Do you not know how to use Google?

[Lighthouse]

31 minutes ago, magnet said:

You're absolutely wasting your time on hear trying to debate this, even though excess deaths are about 2500 a week now as to 600 at the hight of the pandemic people will still ignore the facts.

Tiss said Vaccines aren't working and appear to have bad side effects in people and most called him a conspiracy loon and still are laughably!

Perhaps, rather than doing that, you should all get together and sue them. By ‘them’ I mean anyone you like; big pharma, big government, whoever all this overwhelming evidence points to as the guilty party. You’ve got all the ingredients; information so solid it’s ‘laughable’ to discard it as a conspiracy theory. Tiss apparently has a petition signed by X thousand doctors worldwide, supporting his claims. Doctors all have malpractice insurance and are all very well connected to legal representation and not short of a quid or two to chip in.

 

An ex porn star has just successfully sued a billionaire former president, so this kind of thing will be an absolute walk in the park in comparison, the world’s top lawyers will be queueing up to represent you. It’ll be the most groundbreaking legal case in modern history, Tiss will be the hero of the free world, the man who brought down big pharma, with statues in every town. It couldn’t be more perfect, so what are you all waiting for?

[Marsdinho]

Le Tissier: "Im not having that vaccine, its my body and its my choice not to put anything in it that hasnt been fully safety tested"

Also Le Tissier: "Take this CBD oil, it will sort out your mental state"

[bpsaint]

15 hours ago, stevy777_x said:

What about going to a shrink to try and identify the root cause of it instead of relying on medecine?

What an incredibly moronic and ill informed post.

Back to Matt, it was a while ago now but it’s worth listening to his Undr The Cosh podcast episode, again he goes some way to explaining some of his Covid opinions and again hearing him explain his thought process did a lot to convince me he’s not as far down the rabbit hole as I thought he was.

 

[Fabrice29]

2 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

What an incredibly moronic and ill informed post.

Back to Matt, it was a while ago now but it’s worth listening to his Undr The Cosh podcast episode, again he goes some way to explaining some of his Covid opinions and again hearing him explain his thought process did a lot to convince me he’s not as far down the rabbit hole as I thought he was.

 

If you ever find yourself whoring yourself out to GB news and creating opinions and angles to appeal to them and their audience then yes, you’re far down a rabbit hole.

[bpsaint]

3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

If you ever find yourself whoring yourself out to GB news and creating opinions and angles to appeal to them and their audience then yes, you’re far down a rabbit hole.

Hey I didn’t disagree he’s down the rabbit hole, some of the excess death data he alludes to is concerning though.

[Maggie May]

I’ve listened to a few of these and Jordan lets Le Tiss off lightly compared to how he went in on Souness and Barnes.

[LeBizzier69]

Great listen. Fair play to having his own beliefs and living his own life. 
I don’t mind GB news….less lecturing and virtue signalling than most. Mind you, it’s not hard to compete with the other news channels. 

[Roo1976]

7 hours ago, Saintscummer said:

What’s 0.1 percent of 70 million people ? 

7000...........................................

[Smirking_Saint]

56 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

Great listen. Fair play to having his own beliefs and living his own life. 
I don’t mind GB news….less lecturing and virtue signalling than most. Mind you, it’s not hard to compete with the other news channels. 

I suppose it depends what you want sprinkled on your cornflakes in the morning but tbh I prefer my actual news channels to be news channels and not legislate themselves as ‘entertainment programmes’ so they don’t have to fact check the thinly veiled racism they serve

[Smirking_Saint]

2 hours ago, bpsaint said:

What an incredibly moronic and ill informed post.

Back to Matt, it was a while ago now but it’s worth listening to his Undr The Cosh podcast episode, again he goes some way to explaining some of his Covid opinions and again hearing him explain his thought process did a lot to convince me he’s not as far down the rabbit hole as I thought he was.

 

He’s an intelligent guy, but he is still down the rabit hole, he’s able to verbalise and explain his thought processes a lot better than a great many of the gullible that have been taken in by the conspirashit theories that sprung up all over the place but his arguments still fall apart when you look further behind the curtain 

[SaintsLoyal]

3 hours ago, Marsdinho said:

Le Tissier: "Im not having that vaccine, its my body and its my choice not to put anything in it that hasnt been fully safety tested"

Also Le Tissier: "Take this CBD oil, it will sort out your mental state"

And its not just about the covidv vaccine, hes questioned other vaccines and wont let this daughter take the HPV vaccine.

Where are his family and friends ?  all terribly sad.

[TheMidfieldGeneral]

20 hours ago, SaintsLoyal said:

A pair of sad idiots. 

Why?

[TheMidfieldGeneral]

9 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Well, you’ve correctly identified the callousness and ignorance of holding that particular viewpoint regarding other people’s health problems but as Clark said, you’ve missed the actual point of the post. So if you think I’m ‘quite an unlikable person’; fine but it’s not really me you’re talking about, it’s Tiss. He’s been tweeting his COVID conspiracy drivel for three years and strangely some still try and defend him.

Drivel? 
which comment, exactly, was drivel? 
 

I’ll wait 

[TheMidfieldGeneral]

15 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

And its not just about the covidv vaccine, hes questioned other vaccines and wont let this daughter take the HPV vaccine.

Where are his family and friends ?  all terribly sad.

What’s it got to do with you or his friends 

[Yozzman]

2 hours ago, Roo1976 said:

7000...........................................

I suggest you get your calculator out.😀

[egg]

6 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

He wants absolutely nothing of the sort, what he wants is quite simple; attention. 30 years ago he was the maverick footballer, the icon, the contrarian who took the p*ss and was idolised by tens of thousands because of it. Now he’s desperately trying to recreate that feeling and it’s honestly just sad to watch. He had a respectable job as a talking head on a half decent panel show but it wasn’t enough for him, so now he spends his days endlessly posting this crap, stuck in an internet circle-jerk with Far-Right Said Fred, that lunatic Cornish nurse and a whole clique of struck off chiropractors and dieticians with ‘dr’ in their Twitter handle. The pandemic is over, nobody else cares any more, I’m not even going to bother looking at that bunch of no-context statistics because they’re all just turds, hooked out of the cesspool that is Twitter.

The supreme irony of all this is that when there were genuine concerns about the side effects of the Astra Zeneca vaccine, in a very small number of Scandinavian patients, they were publicised, reported in the mainstream media and that jab was pulled from use on all under 35s. So all the crap he keeps bleating about has actually happened, just not in a way which is as scary as he would like.

You're in no position to tell us what Tiss wants. Raging Bull has explained it from the horses mouth, and it's a perfectly reasonable position. 

  

[JRM]

22 minutes ago, egg said:

You're in no position to tell us what Tiss wants. Raging Bull has explained it from the horses mouth, and it's a perfectly reasonable position. 

  

Lighthouse is definitely one of those people who grassed on their neighbours for having one to many people round during lock down,  just can't let it go. 

[SaintsLoyal]

8 hours ago, Raging Bull said:

I understand perfectly the point he’s making 

70’000 people 

Ok, I know I’m going to regret this because it’s going to trigger a few people on here (like @SaintsLoyal), but I’ve spoken to Matt on this subject a few times. 

All he wants is an open debate on mainstream media on big issues like the continued excesses death rate that’s been running at between 15-20% (more than double that of covid times) since the middle of 2022 in this country alone. 
 

Why is it that country by country, the higher the vaccine take up, the higher the excess deaths. 
 

What’s causing those excesses deaths and why aren’t we hearing about it from the guys that were constantly on our screens telling us about the excess death rate day in day out during covid? 
 

We know that only a tiny percentage of it is attributed to covid and missed appointments, especially now, so what’s the cause? 
 

Why all of a sudden, after decades of religiously publishing vaccine injury data every 6-8 weeks did this information suddenly disappear in May 2022 and hasn’t been updated until recently. 
 

All that needs to happen is to have an open debate between people who are looking at the data and seeing major problems, and those that are saying it’s just a conspiracy. 
 

If those that are saying there’s a problem are wrong, then debate them openly and publicly and show them/us why it’s wrong. 
 

I don’t think that’s much to ask, but it’s never going to happen. 

Where do youy get your information from ? 

What about Bill gates, the WEF, etc 

Why say the excess deaths are down to the vaccine ? More likely many underling issues causing it.

Data was no doubt stopped because its run its course and we want to get back to 'normal'

Im afraid there is no open debate with Le tissier, he blocks anyone who disagrees with him and thats well into three figure now for sure.

Hes a paranoid online conspirayc theorist and during past years shown himself to be as thick in the brain as they come.

It got to the point where you think hes autistic or something.

Reading his drivel in 2020/21 hes fruit and nut

Lets be clear he thinks there is some sort of  global elite that partakes in satanic rituals drinking the blood of sacrificed children. 

He cant hide what hes said and promoted for years on end.

 

[Lighthouse]

32 minutes ago, egg said:

You're in no position to tell us what Tiss wants. Raging Bull has explained it from the horses mouth, and it's a perfectly reasonable position. 

All he wants is a reasonable, well informed debate, where he blocks literary anybody who disagrees with him on Twitter. Anyone can do what he does; sit on the internet all day demanding investigations into things, whilst providing absolutely zero credible (pretty coloured graphs you find on Twitter don’t count) evidence of anything.

 

Say whatever you like. I look forward to Tiss putting his money where his mouth is and issuing legal proceedings against big pharma and big government, with all his real evidence. That’s definitely going to happen right? Because if he has all this concrete evidence and refuses to take them to task on it…. Well he’s part of the big cover up.

[CB Fry]

47 minutes ago, egg said:

You're in no position to tell us what Tiss wants. Raging Bull has explained it from the horses mouth, and it's a perfectly reasonable position. 

  

Hahahahahahahaha 

He's a thick cunt youtubing conspiracy horseshit.

Edited 9 June, 2023 by CB Fry