Kieran Mckenna

[Mr X]

What's the verdict on this guy, suitable?

 

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/forget-mowbray-and-martin-southampton-must-make-37-year-old-top-target-opinion/

[Maggie May]

Mowbray???

[Pilchards]

I like Mckenna as Ipswich do play good football.

My problem with taking an unknown like we did with Mad Nat is the more established players don’t respond to them very well.

Its either we kick out the big billybolloxs players like Stu Armstrong, Bednarek, KWP, Adams etc and start afresh like we did with Adkins many years ago.

[waylander]

  On 19/05/2023 at 08:01, Pilchards said:

I like Mckenna as Ipswich do play good football.

My problem with taking an unknown like we did with Mad Nat is the more established players don’t respond to them very well.

Its either we kick out the big billybolloxs players like Stu Armstrong, Bednarek, KWP, Adams etc and start afresh like we did with Adkins many years ago.

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What established players are we going to have left?

[Pilchards]

  On 19/05/2023 at 08:10, waylander said:

What established players are we going to have left?

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None I hope as they are shit with the wrong mind set.

Fresh faces with some youngsters promoted and regroup to come back up in two years time. Then we will hold our own in the premiership.

 

[Jimbo]

after this season, any "established player" who thinks they deserve influence in how the team is run can do one

[Christophenburg]

Really rate McKenna. Might not be exciting but as an up-and-comer there's much worse choices out there

[Fan The Flames]

Figures of 101 goals for 35 against, is very good, pushed Plymouth all the way. Second best GD in Europes top leagues, and he won't mention that in interviews.

[SW5 SAINT]

Not quite sure why any of these managers at well run Championship clubs such as Ipswich and Swansea, would see Championship Southampton as a more attractive proposition..!

[Fan The Flames]

  On 19/05/2023 at 09:18, SW5 SAINT said:

Not quite sure why any of these managers at well run Championship clubs such as Ipswich and Swansea, would see Championship Southampton as a more attractive proposition..!

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Parachute payments

[CB Fry]

  On 19/05/2023 at 09:18, SW5 SAINT said:

Not quite sure why any of these managers at well run Championship clubs such as Ipswich and Swansea, would see Championship Southampton as a more attractive proposition..!

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Course they would, we’ve got loads more money than they will have. A very obvious step up for anyone currently managing Ipswich or Swansea.

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

  On 19/05/2023 at 09:18, SW5 SAINT said:

Not quite sure why any of these managers at well run Championship clubs such as Ipswich and Swansea, would see Championship Southampton as a more attractive proposition..!

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You can hardly call Ipswich a well run championship club

[Dman]

  On 19/05/2023 at 09:28, CB Fry said:

Course they would, we’ve got loads more money than they will have. A very obvious step up for anyone currently managing Ipswich or Swansea.

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Exactly. Other than perhaps Leicester and Everton / Leeds, we’d have to be one of the most attractive options in that league. 

A ton of cash and a chance to literally build a squad to push for promotion this year or next. It’s a pretty exciting project imo. 

[the saint in winchester]

I would have thought he was happy at Ipswich, and the club must be happy with him, being as he got them promoted?

[Doctoroncall]

  On 19/05/2023 at 10:45, the saint in winchester said:

I would have thought he was happy at Ipswich, and the club must be happy with him, being as he got them promoted?

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Seems happy with the project and Ipswich have backers wanting PL football

[Miltonaggro]

I like what I've seen of McKenna, team plays good attacking football, and comes over as a serious and studious football manager.  Better than the other 'up and coming' prospects mentioned IMO and In many ways reminds me of David Moyes when he was breaking through, and we (Rampart Lowe that is) should have got him.

[Badger]

Of all the ‘outside’ long shots mentioned McKenna does seem to have bit more in his CV.

Certainly has one more promotion than Martin anyway. 

[CB Fry]

  On 19/05/2023 at 20:51, Badger said:

Of all the ‘outside’ long shots mentioned McKenna does seem to have bit more in his CV.

Certainly has one more promotion than Martin anyway. 

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100%. If we aregoung to go "clever" / "up and coming" then this guy is clearly better - dragging a dormant Ipswich up from L1 is comparable to what we need (obviously at a higher level). No Championship experience but at least he is a winner already.

 

Or....uneventful mid table bimbling around for multiple seasons at two clubs? Yeah great thanks

[CSA96]

If we had appointed a manager who had never played professionally and only managed U23 and U18 sides until 12 months ago, as well as working alongside a derided United manager like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, this place would ordinarily be in open revolt. You just need to have seen the Brian Barry-Murphy references in recent months. Now apparently McKenna would've been a good pick because he managed to get out of League 1 after blowing their rivals out of the water by spending more money than any other side and watching Sheffield Wednesday inexplicably explode down the final straight.

He's definitely an interesting manager to keep an eye on in the next few years - and perhaps, just perhaps he would've been a decent pick for us now - but next season is going to be the real barometer for him in terms of how his stock sits in the English pyramid.

Personally, I think there's more merit in direct experience in the division we're going to be in and a track record of overachieving with limited resources. Not that it guarantees a sure bet, but then neither would a single promotion from League One.

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[Toussaint]

  On 19/05/2023 at 08:01, Pilchards said:

 

Its either we kick out the big billybolloxs players like Stu Armstrong, Bednarek, KWP, Adams etc and start afresh like we did with Adkins many years ago.

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Are they billybigbollexes or just senior players? I’ve never heard anything adverse about them before? It’s natural when you are more experienced in any field you will rebel against stupid leadership. My impression is it’s the younger / newer players that have made the mischief.

As an aside, I’m pretty sure it’s Arteta that only allows English to be spoken in the dressing room to avoid fractionalisation, something he must have experienced before.

[Badger]

  On 21/05/2023 at 00:13, CSA96 said:

 

Personally, I think there's more merit in direct experience in the division we're going to be in and a track record of overachieving with limited resources. Not that it guarantees a sure bet, but then neither would a single promotion from League One.

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Agree, but didn’t we try that with NJ, or perhaps the timing was wrong.
 

I wonder what the reaction would be if we were appointing him now, having been relegated. A lot more enthusiastic I suspect. 

[Convict Colony]

  On 21/05/2023 at 00:13, CSA96 said:

If we had appointed a manager who had never played professionally and only managed U23 and U18 sides until 12 months ago, as well as working alongside a derided United manager like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, this place would ordinarily be in open revolt. You just need to have seen the Brian Barry-Murphy references in recent months. Now apparently McKenna would've been a good pick because he managed to get out of League 1 after blowing their rivals out of the water by spending more money than any other side and watching Sheffield Wednesday inexplicably explode down the final straight.

He's definitely an interesting manager to keep an eye on in the next few years - and perhaps, just perhaps he would've been a decent pick for us now - but next season is going to be the real barometer for him in terms of how his stock sits in the English pyramid.

Personally, I think there's more merit in direct experience in the division we're going to be in and a track record of overachieving with limited resources. Not that it guarantees a sure bet, but then neither would a single promotion from League One.

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I think it's a Norfolk thing, Norwich started the trend by getting Dortmund B team manager.