The Great Summer Exodus

[SNSUN]

I was initially Evolution over Revolution with our squad but now I'm thinking it should be vice versa or this losing mentality is going to follow us into next season.

Russell Martin has a fucker of job on his hands.

 

Edited 21 May, 2023 by SNSUN

[EBS1980]

  On 21/05/2023 at 19:39, SNSUN said:

I was initially Evolution over Revolution with our squad but now I'm thinking it should be vice versa or this losing mentality is going to follow us into next season.

Russell Martin has a fucker of job on his hands.

 

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I thibk that’s the biggest challenge tbh, this mentality we have developed, the soft underbelly to our team. We need some leaders and a bit of grit in the squad. 

[Miltonaggro]

Wondering if Stu Armstrong might have a role to play under Martin, tend to think he’s one player the possession game might suit and he’d get space in that league. Amongst the ‘senior’ players would not be averse to SA staying on after the incoming cull. 

[stevy777_x]

  On 22/05/2023 at 08:47, Miltonaggro said:

Wondering if Stu Armstrong might have a role to play under Martin, tend to think he’s one player the possession game might suit and he’d get space in that league. Amongst the ‘senior’ players would not be averse to SA staying on after the incoming cull. 

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I d keep theo too

[Dellman]

  On 22/05/2023 at 08:51, stevy777_x said:

I d keep theo too

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yep, I really hope Theo stays he is the sort of experienced professional and disciplined trainer that is a model for the reshaping we need.

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

  On 21/05/2023 at 19:44, EBS1980 said:

I thibk that’s the biggest challenge tbh, this mentality we have developed, the soft underbelly to our team. We need some leaders and a bit of grit in the squad. 

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And are there any leaders in the squad at present? Quoting S-Clarke: " I look back to 2011 and we had Kelvin, Fonte, Morgan, Hammond, Lambo down the spine. Now that's a spine, experience, leadership, guts and quality." Who have we got today? Yes, i'd like to keep Alcaraz, Sulemana, Tino, Edozie but that's not a leadership spine.

My concern is we have 2 months before the next season starts. That's hardly any time to find a completely new spine and get them to gel together, so then it goes back to what SNsun says about evolution or revolution. I can see the club taking the former approach and with our losing mentality, we slip in to mid Championship table mediocrity or worse very quickly. It's a real catch-22. I'd be looking for a striker (perhaps from the lower leagues), a forward thinking midfielder and given the centre backs seem to be imploding (wouldn't be surprised if ABK, Salisu, Bednerek, DCC & Lyanco all leave), another experienced centre back (Jack S. possibly?).

[Jimbo]

  On 21/05/2023 at 06:33, Jimbo said:

Call me cynical, but all this talk of £150m sales meaning good budgets for this level…

I suspect the first £140m goes to recouping this season’s losses.

the next £50m or so to cover the delta in loss of tv income vs parachute payment receipts.

I don’t see us having a mega budget for players next season - more like make do with a lot of this squads dross and three or four key purchases.

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Just bumping this for all those who question on various threads where the money has gone / talk of ‘asset stripping’ etc.

 

it was pretty obvious what was going to happen

[Patches O Houlihan]

  On 22/08/2023 at 14:00, Jimbo said:

Just bumping this for all those who question on various threads where the money has gone / talk of ‘asset stripping’ etc.

 

it was pretty obvious what was going to happen

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Yes, I agree - when I said we were one of the top seven wealthiest Championship sides in history I was taking account of the fact we would have to spend a huge chunk settling up.

All sides relegated from the PL would find themselves in this situation, with very few exceptions. My suggestion was based on the huge size of our squad, their low average age, and huge potential (which had not been realised due to no striker & crap management decisions). Selling a good chunk of the squad, as nearly all relegated sides have to do would raise far more money than is usually the case.

This year is our best chance for a reset. Every later year will be more costly, more compromised, or have a smaller purse to buy players with.

[skintsaint]

  On 22/08/2023 at 14:00, Jimbo said:

Just bumping this for all those who question on various threads where the money has gone / talk of ‘asset stripping’ etc.

 

it was pretty obvious what was going to happen

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Lets see once the window has SLAMMED shut.

[CB Fry]

  On 22/08/2023 at 14:00, Jimbo said:

Just bumping this for all those who question on various threads where the money has gone / talk of ‘asset stripping’ etc.

 

it was pretty obvious what was going to happen

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Yes it was obvious so not sure why you are positioning yourself as some kind of visionary.

I don't remember anyone thinking or saying we would be spending something like a hundred million pounds on players this season.

[Jimbo]

  On 22/08/2023 at 16:17, CB Fry said:

Yes it was obvious so not sure why you are positioning yourself as some kind of visionary.

I don't remember anyone thinking or saying we would be spending something like a hundred million pounds on players this season.

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There’s plenty on this thread and the transfers thread.

not least the hysterical “where’s the money gone?” posts

[S-Clarke]

  On 22/08/2023 at 17:26, Jimbo said:

not least the hysterical “where’s the money gone?” posts

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Eric Black has stolen all our money.

[CB Fry]

  On 22/08/2023 at 17:26, Jimbo said:

There’s plenty on this thread and the transfers thread.

not least the hysterical “where’s the money gone?” posts

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Just flicked through this thread and honestly no idea what you're talking about.

A few nutcases talked about asset stripping but written off as nut jobs at the time. 

Still bewildered why you are requoting your own obvious posts to give yourself an open top bus celebration over a loads of stuff no one disagreed with in the first place.

@trousers give him a medal

[Guest]

  On 22/08/2023 at 14:00, Jimbo said:

Just bumping this for all those who question on various threads where the money has gone / talk of ‘asset stripping’ etc.

 

it was pretty obvious what was going to happen

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Ridiculous bump. 🤣

[Jimbo]

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Edited 24 August, 2023 by Jimbo
wrong thread