Russell Martin

[Bad Wolf]

4 minutes ago, Dark Munster said:

Martin and his apologists claim we should be happy because we had enough chances to win 4-1. That's all well and good if they were spread out evenly throughout the match. But they ignore the 30-40 minutes of absolute dross in the middle, where almost half the match was wasted with propaganda Russball shite football. Keep up the quality of the first 20 or so minutes throughout the match, and still draw 1-1 due to good goalkeeping, yes even bad misses, is forgivable. But wasting half the match with crap football (against an appallingly bad side), and say that's ok because we outplayed them for the other half, isn't good enough. Martin especially (and Rasmus F*cking Ankersen if he was there) deserve all the boos they got. 

And the fans deserved the performance they got.

[notnowcato]

31 minutes ago, Dark Munster said:

Martin and his apologists claim we should be happy because we had enough chances to win 4-1. That's all well and good if they were spread out evenly throughout the match. But they ignore the 30-40 minutes of absolute dross in the middle, where almost half the match was wasted with propaganda Russball shite football. Keep up the quality of the first 20 or so minutes throughout the match, and still draw 1-1 due to good goalkeeping, yes even bad misses, is forgivable. But wasting half the match with crap football (against an appallingly bad side), and say that's ok because we outplayed them for the other half, isn't good enough. Martin especially (and Rasmus F*cking Ankersen if he was there) deserve all the boos they got. 

If one of the good chances had gone in I suspect all would be well, so I’m calling bullshit on this. 

[Dark Munster]

3 minutes ago, notnowcato said:

If one of the good chances had gone in I suspect all would be well, so I’m calling bullshit on this. 

How many good chances did they piss down the toilet by playing crab, propaganda, Russball shite for half the match? It's much easier to beat a crap team if you play for 90 minutes as opposed to only 45.

[notnowcato]

4 minutes ago, Dark Munster said:

How many good chances did they piss down the toilet by playing crab, propaganda, Russball shite for half the match? It's much easier to beat a crap team if you play for 90 minutes as opposed to only 45.

Given the stats from the game you expect 44 shots of which 20 to be on target - do you have any idea how unrealistic this is, even against teams like Rotherham. 
Stop digging, you’ve hit bullshit. 

[Dark Munster]

1 minute ago, notnowcato said:

Given the stats from the game you expect 44 shots of which 20 to be on target - do you have any idea how unrealistic this is, even against teams like Rotherham. 
Stop digging, you’ve hit bullshit. 

Nice strawman argument you have come up with there, making up numbers that no one claimed. If we hadn't played Russball crap for half the match we would've had more chances, and probably scored. It's quite a simple concept to understand.

[captainchris]

2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

It's pretty easy to me. 

A supporter should support the team - the clue is in the name. 

A customer can boo the team, as they can argue the quality of the product is not good enough for the money. 

People need to decide what they are. 

 

Watched the highlights, should have won easily. It was one of those games. 

Everyone remember in the Summer when a lot of posters on here were losing their mind at potentially selling Che? Makes me chuckle now. 

A supporter is a customer too, unless of course you get in for free…. Any customer/ supporter has a right to critical analysis or to show their dissatisfaction with the quality on offer. In addition they can clap if they they think the quality was excellent….

Of course if you think the players and manager should be applauded given any circumstance of questionable football then you are entitled to do that, however, that doesn’t turn you into a better or proper/superior supporter/customer. What it it does mean is you are willing to accept results that align with your nature of taking part is your ambition and winning is not as important as taking some kind of moral high ground and labelling yourself as a proper supporter and forgetting you are a customer too.

Russel Martin is slowly turning into a deflector of issues whilst he struggles to utilise the resources at his disposal. 
Martin continually concentrates focus on supporter opinion which he disagrees with and excuses relating to spurious exaggerated hangover psychology from last season. In fact you could say he was acting out the ‘superior supporter’ syndrome himself. It is precisely the lack of a winning mentality which Martin and some paying customers buy into which is holding us back. 
Expect to win and ask questions if we don’t. We should be thrashing Rotherham, no if’s not but’s and not making glib conceited comments about supporter opinions and match stats…. Martin is having you over if you buy into these distractions…. 



 

[Jonnyboy]

9 hours ago, notnowcato said:

We had enough good opportunities to bury Rotherham, even the most psychotic anti-Russell Southampton "fan" would recognise that and realise that not everything is the manager's fault (or maybe they wouldn't).  The game could've easily finished 3-1 to us, it didn't, booing the team was frankly pantomine and ridiculous... oh yes it was.

Come back to us when we've lost the next three in a row.

[Long Shot]

9 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

It's pretty easy to me. 

A supporter should support the team - the clue is in the name. 

A customer can boo the team, as they can argue the quality of the product is not good enough for the money. 

People need to decide what they are. 

 

Watched the highlights, should have won easily. It was one of those games. 

Everyone remember in the Summer when a lot of posters on here were losing their mind at potentially selling Che? Makes me chuckle now. 

It sounds like you didn’t go and you watched the highlights instead. It’s very easy to have a go at the fans who were actually there having to watch a very frustrating game who dared to then vent those frustrations at the final whistle.  Customers “support” the team by putting funds into the club so to differentiate between supporters and customers just plays into the toxic division that is growing at the club. RM and SR have successfully split the fan base. 

[notnowcato]

6 hours ago, Dark Munster said:

Nice strawman argument you have come up with there, making up numbers that no one claimed. If we hadn't played Russball crap for half the match we would've had more chances, and probably scored. It's quite a simple concept to understand.

Great demonstration of not knowing what a strawman argument is. 
 

You claimed we were ineffective for 45 minutes of the game, I won’t add the SaintsWeb bingo nonsense you quoted. Match stats had us with 22 shots and 10 on target in your “effective 45 minutes” so simple maths in play here. 
 

Your argument has more holes than a packet of polos. 

[Miltonaggro]

In the ground on Saturday as far as I could see and perceive the fans backed this dysfunctional ‘team’ until the final whistle. Deflated after their soft goal but you could see it coming all second half. There was no urgency or desire, no drive, to get the winner from the players. When the ref blew people were already on their feet flooding for the exits, the ‘boos’ which apparently upset Russ and Flynn were reactive as our supporters left the ground, it was fuck all. 

[Challenger]

Don't boo it's not pleasent, come to think of it neither is the football.

[Osvaldorama]

Yes guys, don’t you realise that as a customer of Southampton FC it is your duty to clap and smile no matter what happens on the pitch. 
 

How dare you show any displeasure at the fact we barely tried to win the game for 45 minutes against the worst side in the league. 
 

My spreadsheet here says that we were phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal and our new head coach has re-invented football. It’s not about scoring goals anymore, it’s about knocking it around aimlessly. 
 

Now clap and cheer or it’s YOUR fault if we don’t win, oh and also I am much cleverer than you because only I can see this. (Well me, Russell Martin and sports republic. We are geniuses you see). 

[Toadhall Saint]

2 hours ago, Miltonaggro said:

In the ground on Saturday as far as I could see and perceive the fans backed this dysfunctional ‘team’ until the final whistle. Deflated after their soft goal but you could see it coming all second half. There was no urgency or desire, no drive, to get the winner from the players. When the ref blew people were already on their feet flooding for the exits, the ‘boos’ which apparently upset Russ and Flynn were reactive as our supporters left the ground, it was fuck all. 

Spoke to a mate at half time and we both agreed that we needed the extra goal “as you know what will happen” guess what.  Play all the tippy tappy stuff all you want but do it after you have put the opposition away especially against one of the most mediocre sides I’ve seen at sms in a very long time.

[notnowcato]

1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Spoke to a mate at half time and we both agreed that we needed the extra goal “as you know what will happen” guess what.  Play all the tippy tappy stuff all you want but do it after you have put the opposition away especially against one of the most mediocre sides I’ve seen at sms in a very long time.

Had the same half time conversation, I expect many of us did.  

Football is a funny ol' game, the previous week we also performed really well and got the goals we deserved.

[Miltonaggro]

1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Spoke to a mate at half time and we both agreed that we needed the extra goal “as you know what will happen” guess what.  Play all the tippy tappy stuff all you want but do it after you have put the opposition away especially against one of the most mediocre sides I’ve seen at sms in a very long time.

Exactly the same with those around me, you could feel the slow ponderous build up to the sucker punch. If we are serious about creating momentum towards a promotion bid you can’t drop points to Rotherham at home. The board, manager and players must know this regardless of their positive spin and blame game in the media. 

[tdmickey3]

23 hours ago, Dman said:

A very well measured response as per from you, Always.

With that sort of tactical intelligence, its a surprise you're not in the dug out.

Do shut up you very silly little boy

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 hours ago, Miltonaggro said:

Exactly the same with those around me, you could feel the slow ponderous build up to the sucker punch. If we are serious about creating momentum towards a promotion bid you can’t drop points to Rotherham at home. The board, manager and players must know this regardless of their positive spin and blame game in the media. 

Said on another thread. Leicester and Leeds would absolutely wipe the floor with Rotherham at home. As will most sides that consider themselves promotion contenders. But it's ok that we didn't because we had 80 percent possession. 

[washsaint]

6 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Said on another thread. Leicester and Leeds would absolutely wipe the floor with Rotherham at home. As will most sides that consider themselves promotion contenders. But it's ok that we didn't because we had 80 percent possession. 

Oh, you mean like we wipes the floor with Leeds the week before.

Loads of self entitle numpties on here these days.  Totally disrespectful to Rotherham, especially their keeper who had a blinder and likely will never play that well again.

We will win some, lose some and draw some.  Yes, the style of walking football is baffling at times but the hatred - yes hatred - spewed at certain players and the manager is disgusting.

Face it, its a game of soccer, not life and death.

[Weston Super Saint]

45 minutes ago, washsaint said:

 

Face it, its a game of soccer,

It most certainly is not 😜

[pimpin4rizeal]

On 07/10/2023 at 20:13, Dusic said:

Personally find a lot of this OTT.

With ever so slightly better finishing and/or a GK not having one of those games and we are on 9pts from the week and sitting in the top 6 despite having lost 4 in a row recently.

In the Stoke game if we take one of the massive chances (Armstrong header, Sulemana, Mara) then we win comfortably.

For me its the same today.

I can see improvements in defence, a team that is dominating the opponent and now creating good chances. The last two games we have probably had 7 or 8 very decent chances that we havent scored. On Tuesday it didnt cost us, today it did.

Personally don't see why thebresult today has anything to do with the manager, it was the players not adding a second goal that was the issue.

We look like we will be well in the mix for the playoffs, I will be majorly suprised if we dont finish comfortably inside the top 6.

Leicester are clearly the best team, they have the best squad by a mile.

Ipswich currently on an incredible run and are a team with positve momentum who have been together for a while. If they win 9 of each 11 for the rest of the season then they fully deserve auto. If they don't (more likely) then we need to make sure we are there to capitalise.

Agree with much of this. We played well vs Rotherham just one of those days.

think over the last three games Martin has turned it round a bit can’t really call for the mans head after getting 7 points from the last 9, but it seems. Fragile situation with fans ready to turn after every bad result. 

[Dark Munster]

10 hours ago, notnowcato said:

Great demonstration of not knowing what a strawman argument is. 
 

You claimed we were ineffective for 45 minutes of the game, I won’t add the SaintsWeb bingo nonsense you quoted. Match stats had us with 22 shots and 10 on target in your “effective 45 minutes” so simple maths in play here. 
 

Your argument has more holes than a packet of polos. 

Mods, we have a like, laugh, sad and confused emojis. Any chance of adding a facepalm one?

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 hours ago, washsaint said:

Oh, you mean like we wipes the floor with Leeds the week before.

Loads of self entitle numpties on here these days.  Totally disrespectful to Rotherham, especially their keeper who had a blinder and likely will never play that well again.

We will win some, lose some and draw some.  Yes, the style of walking football is baffling at times but the hatred - yes hatred - spewed at certain players and the manager is disgusting.

Face it, its a game of soccer, not life and death.

Where have I said I have hatred for the players or Martin? I've expressed an opinion that if we are serious about automatic promotion then we should be beating Rotherham at home comfortably. Not really sure that's being disrespectful to Rotherham, they probably turned up not expecting to get much.

[gallaghert366@yahoo.com]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

It most certainly is not 😜

Bill Shankly agreed.

[lambtiss]

6 hours ago, notnowcato said:

Had the same half time conversation, I expect many of us did.  

Football is a funny ol' game, the previous week we also performed really well and got the goals we deserved.

You seem to have deliberately ignored many replies that have made the point that for a long period either side of half time we didn't try to get the extra goal, instead we passed the ball sideways and backwards without taking chances. The effect of this was that we created very few chances to get the second goal which would have rendered the Rotherham goal insignificant. This is why fans were despondent at the final whistle. 

[notnowcato]

1 hour ago, lambtiss said:

You seem to have deliberately ignored many replies that have made the point that for a long period either side of half time we didn't try to get the extra goal, instead we passed the ball sideways and backwards without taking chances. The effect of this was that we created very few chances to get the second goal which would have rendered the Rotherham goal insignificant. This is why fans were despondent at the final whistle. 

Taking chances also increases the opportunity for the other team to counter. Rotherham were low risk, patient and knew they didn’t need to chase the game, going into the last 3rd of the game 1 down was ok for them. We were 1 up so also didn’t need to chase the game. It did get dull in the middle patch but I can kind of understand why. Disappointing result but not a disappointing performance. 

[lambtiss]

5 minutes ago, notnowcato said:

Taking chances also increases the opportunity for the other team to counter. Rotherham were low risk, patient and knew they didn’t need to chase the game, going into the last 3rd of the game 1 down was ok for them. We were 1 up so also didn’t need to chase the game. It did get dull in the middle patch but I can kind of understand why. Disappointing result but not a disappointing performance. 

And how did that approach work out?

[notnowcato]

1 hour ago, lambtiss said:

And how did that approach work out?

Show me an approach that always works. 

[Whitey Grandad]

1 minute ago, notnowcato said:

Show me an approach that always works. 

We can show you one that rarely works. 

[pimpin4rizeal]

I think a lot of our opinions on russ are on a knife edge atm me included . But if we look the last 3 fixtures most thought Leeds would hammer us, stoke away also not a given so 7 points from these 3 is acceptable I think..  Too much being made of not beating Rotherham . Let’s guve him another 3 or 4 games and see how he goes 

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

Is there anyone that is disappointed with the way we played for most of the first half against Rotherham? I wouldn't think so, disappointed we couldn't score again and kill off the game, but the performance was better. What has pissed many off is that in the second half we reverted back to the slow impotent side that lost the 4 before our 3 match winning run (we did similar second half v Leeds and rode our luck at times at Stoke). Frustration boiled over for some after a real opportunity was missed at home against a side there for the taking.

Edited 11 October, 2023 by TheAlehouseBrawlers
Typo

[Gloucester Saint]

11 hours ago, notnowcato said:

Taking chances also increases the opportunity for the other team to counter. Rotherham were low risk, patient and knew they didn’t need to chase the game, going into the last 3rd of the game 1 down was ok for them. We were 1 up so also didn’t need to chase the game. It did get dull in the middle patch but I can kind of understand why. Disappointing result but not a disappointing performance. 

The opponents were Rotherham. Not won away in 12 months, 23rd and lowest scorers. It’s akin to arguing that City wouldn’t have chased a second against the Saints side who propped up the league last season because they were scared of Adam Armstrong catching them on the break (two goals all season). And it’s a valid comparison as Saints had players on the bench who earn more per week than Rotherham’s entire squad.

By all means play Devil’s Advocate but Martin got it wrong tactically. 

It’s the type of logic Pellegrino used and it got him the sack.

[notnowcato]

5 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

The opponents were Rotherham. Not won away in 12 months, 23rd and lowest scorers. It’s akin to arguing that City wouldn’t have chased a second against the Saints side who propped up the league last season because they were scared of Adam Armstrong catching them on the break (two goals all season). And it’s a valid comparison as Saints had players on the bench who earn more per week than Rotherham’s entire squad.

By all means play Devil’s Advocate but Martin got it wrong tactically. 

It’s the type of logic Pellegrino used and it got him the sack.

I get your point but it's not as though we took our foot off the gas after scoring in the 2nd minute. 

[Weston Super Saint]

15 hours ago, notnowcato said:

Show me an approach that always works. 

NJ had one that worked perfectly - not in our favour, granted, but worked none the less.

[Galway saint]

Just listened to the Guardian podcast and they have done an EFL special. When covering the championship, we didn’t even merit a mention !  Not a single word. 

The pundits were making the point that the gap between the Premier League and the championship is so great, and that is why Leicester have found it easy.

No such luck for Saints as we continue to make heavy weather of it treading water in mid table.

All of that said when Martin arrived, his record was as many losses as wins, and he is simply repeating that now, so at the moment it looks like another gamble that’s not paid off for the SR team.

[Long Shot]

11 minutes ago, Galway saint said:

Just listened to the Guardian podcast and they have done an EFL special. When covering the championship, we didn’t even merit a mention !  Not a single word. 

The pundits were making the point that the gap between the Premier League and the championship is so great, and that is why Leicester have found it easy.

No such luck for Saints as we continue to make heavy weather of it treading water in mid table.

All of that said when Martin arrived, his record was as many losses as wins, and he is simply repeating that now, so at the moment it looks like another gamble that’s not paid off for the SR team.

𝙳𝚎𝚙𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚜𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚒𝚜𝚗𝚝 𝚒𝚝? 𝙰𝚗𝚍 𝚢𝚎𝚝 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚊𝚛𝚎 𝚖𝚊𝚗𝚢 𝚠𝚑𝚘 𝚊𝚛𝚎 𝚜𝚊𝚝𝚒𝚜𝚏𝚒𝚎𝚍 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚙𝚑𝚘𝚗𝚢 𝚌𝚛𝚘𝚙 𝚌𝚒𝚛𝚌𝚕𝚎 𝚏𝚘𝚘𝚝𝚋𝚊𝚕𝚕. 

[gio1saints]

There are some interesting kind of divides happening here amongst some posters on this forum. 
 

There are some who feel Russell Martin should be given time to get the team playing and winning every game. And think there has been some progress and some improvement but it’s not been a linear process despite everyone wishing it were. And no, they are not all Russell’s fam or on the staff payroll.  I think it’s still a majority. 
 

Then there’s those who thought the same but now feel time is up after 12 games ( or so) and he’s got to change it up somehow to a less trendy more winning brand of football. ( a kind of middle ground that most would not disagree with too much I’m guessing, with the exception of - 

Then there are those who hate the style, feel it’s failed / failing and don’t want it - period. This is a small but vocal minority who mostly realise this means change the Manager, who they secretly or not so secretly despise - which in turn means change how we play for - guess what - whatever style is favoured by whatever new manager and his crew SR get in. But wait, it gets better Rasmussen SR and co are c un ts too . Either way they can’t wait to trash talk the next guy anyways unless he wins every game straight off cos that’s how they (t) roll. 
 

It’s all rather sad actually. Nobody has a problem with booing or criticism of Russell or team - least of all him. He’s big enough and ugly enough. Criticise his bollocks off here too. 
 

But when it gets personal and nasty - like it has done both at SMS and here online- and in turn to posters “ defending” him and team - well then it slides over into unacceptable abuse.
 

Some don't seem to know or care that there’s a difference between that criticism and that abuse. I’ve got an old MLT VHS tape somewhere and frankly it’s “unbelievable” how you’ve become blind apologists for out of order abusive behaviour . With these it’s pointless trying to discuss this distinction. 
 

Those will ( shamefully) carry on abusing RM and team if he & they don’t do what they want. And abusing normal supporters who just want to get behind the team on this forum and who are sick of the constant moaning and naysaying. 
 

Saintly regards.

[Miltonaggro]

8 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

NJ had one that worked perfectly - not in our favour, granted, but worked none the less.

Almost beginning to miss the frothing lunatic, almost. 😀

[Lee On Solent Saint]

13 hours ago, gio1saints said:

There are some interesting kind of divides happening here amongst some posters on this forum. 
 

There are some who feel Russell Martin should be given time to get the team playing and winning every game. And think there has been some progress and some improvement but it’s not been a linear process despite everyone wishing it were. And no, they are not all Russell’s fam or on the staff payroll.  I think it’s still a majority. 
 

Then there’s those who thought the same but now feel time is up after 12 games ( or so) and he’s got to change it up somehow to a less trendy more winning brand of football. ( a kind of middle ground that most would not disagree with too much I’m guessing, with the exception of - 

Then there are those who hate the style, feel it’s failed / failing and don’t want it - period. This is a small but vocal minority who mostly realise this means change the Manager, who they secretly or not so secretly despise - which in turn means change how we play for - guess what - whatever style is favoured by whatever new manager and his crew SR get in. But wait, it gets better Rasmussen SR and co are c un ts too . Either way they can’t wait to trash talk the next guy anyways unless he wins every game straight off cos that’s how they (t) roll. 
 

It’s all rather sad actually. Nobody has a problem with booing or criticism of Russell or team - least of all him. He’s big enough and ugly enough. Criticise his bollocks off here too. 
 

But when it gets personal and nasty - like it has done both at SMS and here online- and in turn to posters “ defending” him and team - well then it slides over into unacceptable abuse.
 

Some don't seem to know or care that there’s a difference between that criticism and that abuse. I’ve got an old MLT VHS tape somewhere and frankly it’s “unbelievable” how you’ve become blind apologists for out of order abusive behaviour . With these it’s pointless trying to discuss this distinction. 
 

Those will ( shamefully) carry on abusing RM and team if he & they don’t do what they want. And abusing normal supporters who just want to get behind the team on this forum and who are sick of the constant moaning and naysaying. 
 

Saintly regards.

Interested to know what's on the MLT video. The ones I have show the best player ever to play for Saints scoring some of the best goals I have ever had the privilege to see.

[Charlie Wayman]

34 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Interested to know what's on the MLT video. The ones I have show the best player ever to play for Saints scoring some of the best goals I have ever had the privilege to see.

Better than Mane? Better than Lambert? Better than Paine?

Just asking.

[Miltonaggro]

5 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Better than Mane? Better than Lambert? Better than Paine?

Just asking.

I think so. In terms of natural talent the best British footballer of his generation in my view. Incredible to think we had him at Southampton. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

35 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Better than Mane? Better than Lambert? Better than Paine?

Just asking.

Absolutely. Certainly from my generation anyway. 

[Saint_clark]

40 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Better than Mane? Better than Lambert? Better than Paine?

Just asking.

...yes?

[Badger]

42 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Better than Mane? Better than Lambert? Better than Paine?

Just asking.

Can't really comment on Paine as his best days were behind him when I started following Saints, late 60's.

For me MLT, the player, stands above Lambert, and certainly Mane. The only player to come close to him in terms of status for me is Channon. That is the real difficulty if you had to choose between those two. 

[lambtiss]

9 minutes ago, Badger said:

Can't really comment on Paine as his best days were behind him when I started following Saints, late 60's.

For me MLT, the player, stands above Lambert, and certainly Mane. The only player to come close to him in terms of status for me is Channon. That is the real difficulty if you had to choose between those two. 

Both deserved more England caps

[Osvaldorama]

3 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Better than Mane? Better than Lambert? Better than Paine?

Just asking.

Obviously and it’s not even close 

[ally_uk]

I don't think we are going up this season.....

 

 

[Miltonaggro]

14 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

I don't think we are going up this season.....

 

 

I’m not even sure we will be that close. Also think a high chance SR will stick with Martin for next season, even if we finish mid table this time around - all the just three points away from this and two wins away from that nonsense will come into play. There are similarities to the Lowe relegation in terms of naivety lurking behind arrogance. 

[Dark Munster]

16 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

I don't think we are going up this season.....

 

 

The odds are against it with the muppet manager and that deluded twat Ankersen and his puppet Wilcox keeping him in his job. If Cortese were to come back today he would’ve been sacked yesterday (and he wouldn’t have been remotely considered in the first place).

I reckon we have at best a 75% chance of scraping into the top 6, and 25% chance of winning the playoffs. So about a 19% chance of going up. With our squad that’s disgraceful.

 

[Miltonaggro]

50 minutes ago, Dark Munster said:

The odds are against it with the muppet manager and that deluded twat Ankersen and his puppet Wilcox keeping him in his job. If Cortese were to come back today he would’ve been sacked yesterday (and he wouldn’t have been remotely considered in the first place).

I reckon we have at best a 75% chance of scraping into the top 6, and 25% chance of winning the playoffs. So about a 19% chance of going up. With our squad that’s disgraceful.

 

And there’s the crux DM, we won’t retain our remaining ‘star players’ next season (Alcaraz, Suley, KWP), so diminishing returns unless we then recruit a charismatic manager who gets the rest playing out of their skins. Rare as rocking horse shit.  

[adrian lord]

By far the best predictor of a person's future performance and behaviour, is past performance and behaviour.

And so it is proving with Russell. I am shocked that the guru Rasmus didn't see this in his crystal ball.