goodymatt Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 (edited) Edited 4 July, 2023 by goodymatt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 (edited) "His job is to ensure the group is ready for that and to convince who he can to stay". The problem will be the money. Footballers are no different to the rest of us, who in general live to their means. Few could take a huge drop in salary and still maintain their current lifestyles. Despite their wealth they will have large mortgages and kids at expensive private schools and still the need to keep up with their particular set of Jones's. If they can get firm interest from a PL club they may have little choice but to accept whatever is on offer as it is bound to be more than we can pay them in the EFL Championship. A professional footballer's career is notoriously short so they are conditioned to think short term just to ensure that the gravy train keeps flowing and none of us would blame them. Edited 4 July, 2023 by Charlie Wayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 im pretty sure RM done a no look pass in this… and once again, while it’s not overtly technical stuff… they’re starting to look far more engaged (as previous). Maybe because they’re doing proper professional football training .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 Important questions need to be asked: wtf is going on with KWPs hair?! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 58 minutes ago, Suhari said: Important questions need to be asked: wtf is going on with KWPs hair?! Pride month has just finished…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 1 hour ago, Crab Lungs said: im pretty sure RM done a no look pass in this… and once again, while it’s not overtly technical stuff… they’re starting to look far more engaged (as previous). Maybe because they’re doing proper professional football training .. Embarrassing pull ups from Charlie, didn’t lock out on his only rep struggled to get the second out, really poor. Needs to get that sorted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 2 hours ago, Suhari said: Important questions need to be asked: wtf is going on with KWPs hair?! His head’s already been turned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 4 hours ago, Crab Lungs said: im pretty sure RM done a no look pass in this… and once again, while it’s not overtly technical stuff… they’re starting to look far more engaged (as previous). Maybe because they’re doing proper professional football training .. Tbh I saw alot of players just clowning around in the gym. Can imagine the uproar on here if this was happening under Jones... In all seriousness though, if they arent engaged in the first few days of pre season, after delivering the most pitiful season in living memory, then they really should find a new occupation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 5 July, 2023 Share Posted 5 July, 2023 10 hours ago, Turkish said: Embarrassing pull ups from Charlie, didn’t lock out on his only rep struggled to get the second out, really poor. Needs to get that sorted Scarily the gaffer is the best passer of a football there…. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 5 July, 2023 Share Posted 5 July, 2023 11 hours ago, Suhari said: Important questions need to be asked: wtf is going on with KWPs hair?! He's off to Man City - gauranteed ☺️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 5 July, 2023 Share Posted 5 July, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: Scarily the gaffer is the best passer of a football there…. I thought this. I don’t remember him being that good when we played against him, but his passing is crisp. Edited 5 July, 2023 by SotonianWill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 5 July, 2023 Share Posted 5 July, 2023 12 hours ago, Turkish said: Embarrassing pull ups from Charlie, didn’t lock out on his only rep struggled to get the second out, really poor. Needs to get that sorted Man give him a break, judging by the episodes I watched this morning he set the record for the amount of handshakes he had to give to everyone this pre-season so far, surprised his arm is still on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 5 July, 2023 Share Posted 5 July, 2023 On 03/07/2023 at 21:58, goodymatt said: With Farke set to be named Leeds manager tomorrow, who out the relegated clubs has appointed the best manager do we think? I think it might be us. Leeds with Farke, clearly. The bloke has 2 championship promotions under his belt. The other 2 are huge risks who've achieved very little in the past. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 5 July, 2023 Share Posted 5 July, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dman said: Leeds with Farke, clearly. The bloke has 2 championship promotions under his belt. The other 2 are huge risks who've achieved very little in the past. Promotion experience is a very fair point. Farke does also have 2 relegations (pretty much) on his CV, a weird 6 week spell at Krasnodar and a year at Monchengladbach where he maintained their 10th place from the season before. They had finished top 4 not long ago. Call me optimistic but I think we are still yet to see Martin’s ceiling with better resources at his disposal. It would have been nice to have past experience of completing this season objective though, that doesn’t appear to be our way. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 July, 2023 Share Posted 5 July, 2023 2 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said: Scarily the gaffer is the best passer of a football there…. We had Hoddle, Bally & Souness who probably were as well. I remember reading that the players used to fire the ball into Lawrie to try & embarrass him when he joined in training. Had he been managing last season, he’d probably have had one of the better touches though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 5 July, 2023 Share Posted 5 July, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, goodymatt said: Promotion experience is a very fair point. Farke does also have 2 relegations (pretty much) on his CV, a weird 6 week spell at Krasnodar and a year at Monchengladbach where he maintained their 10th place from the season before. They had finished top 4 not long ago. Call me optimistic but I think we are still yet to see Martin’s ceiling with better resources at his disposal. It would have been nice to have past experience of completing this season objective though, that doesn’t appear to be our way. He has the experience of promotion within a dressing room, and perhaps even more importantly, of relegation - and the moods, warning signs, and required motivations to optimise the dressing room. As stated before, i think we've got a good manager and will have a very strong season. The simple fact that he isn't Selles or Nathan Jones, and the fact that we're dropping down to be a dominant team will all provide a fresh start and refresh to the entire atmosphere around the club. Edited 5 July, 2023 by Saint86 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 5 July, 2023 Share Posted 5 July, 2023 8 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: We had Hoddle, Bally & Souness who probably were as well. I remember reading that the players used to fire the ball into Lawrie to try & embarrass him when he joined in training. Had he been managing last season, he’d probably have had one of the better touches though. ...and Strachan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 5 July, 2023 Share Posted 5 July, 2023 On 03/07/2023 at 21:58, goodymatt said: With Farke set to be named Leeds manager tomorrow, who out the relegated clubs has appointed the best manager do we think? I think it might be us. Farke spent his time at Norwich playing put from the back, regardless of outcomes. In the Championship, with decent attacking full backs, and when it was new, it went well. When they went up, teams shut down that space and he...played them in exactly the same way. It was infuriating to watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 6 July, 2023 Share Posted 6 July, 2023 11 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Farke spent his time at Norwich playing put from the back, regardless of outcomes. In the Championship, with decent attacking full backs, and when it was new, it went well. When they went up, teams shut down that space and he...played them in exactly the same way. It was infuriating to watch. By all accounts Martin is just as stubborn in his philosophy.. He's just not been good enough to get tested in the PL yet, but if he does, it could easily get just as messy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribtickler Posted 6 July, 2023 Share Posted 6 July, 2023 As a man he is a true gent, once held the door open for me at the Harvester in Norwich. As a manager he is a monster, ask Darren Huckerby. That's all i will say 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chuckle Posted 6 July, 2023 Share Posted 6 July, 2023 8 hours ago, Ribtickler said: As a man he is a true gent, once held the door open for me at the Harvester in Norwich. As a manager he is a monster, ask Darren Huckerby. That's all i will say Lovely stuff pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 July, 2023 Share Posted 6 July, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Ribtickler said: As a man he is a true gent, once held the door open for me at the Harvester in Norwich. As a manager he is a monster, ask Darren Huckerby. That's all i will say Darren huckerby who retired from playing 10 years before Martin's first managerial job and has never coached at a club managed by him? Edited 6 July, 2023 by Saint_clark 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 6 July, 2023 Share Posted 6 July, 2023 23 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Darren huckerby who retired from playing 10 years before Martin's first managerial job and has never coached at a club managed by him? I think he meant Farke, could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 (edited) Darren Huckerby stopped playing about a decade before Farke took over at Norwich so I am not sure he is an authority on how Farke is as a manager of players. Looking at Wikipedia let's guess that Huckerby was in the academy coaching staff and then he wasn't, and Farke was part of that decision. But he's never got a coaching job anywhere else since ,so maybe whatever Farke did wasn't so wrong. I think the main takeout that @Ribtickler wants to get across to us here is that he has met Darren Huckerby. Edited 7 July, 2023 by CB Fry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 17 hours ago, Ribtickler said: As a man he is a true gent, once held the door open for me at the Harvester in Norwich. As a manager he is a monster, ask Darren Huckerby. That's all i will say I suppose that Harvester does offer a good salad bar but it is not the sort of restaurant where you would expect to find a vegan. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 1 hour ago, CB Fry said: Darren Huckerby stopped playing about a decade before Farke took over at Norwich so I am not sure he is an authority on how Farke is as a manager of players. Looking at Wikipedia let's guess that Huckerby was in the academy coaching staff and then he wasn't, and Farke was part of that decision. But he's never got a coaching job anywhere else since ,so maybe whatever Farke did wasn't so wrong. I think the main takeout that @Ribtickler wants to get across to us here is that he has met Darren Huckerby. My lad reffed a game at Staplewood when Huckerby and Murty ran Norwich academy I think u16s. Huckerby was a complete twat and Murty often told him to be quiet. Good side Norwich won 3-1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 9 hours ago, SaintsFan86 said: I think he meant Farke, could be wrong though. My bad, I didn't read the whole thread and he didn't quote anyone so naturally I assumed he was talking about the person the thread is about. Carry on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 1 hour ago, Give it to Ron said: My lad reffed a game at Staplewood when Huckerby and Murty ran Norwich academy I think u16s. Huckerby was a complete twat and Murty often told him to be quiet. Good side Norwich won 3-1. Always liked Graeme Murty. Wasn't he a part of our coaching set up for a while? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 (edited) Wrong thread……….. Edited 7 July, 2023 by M271 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 19 hours ago, Ribtickler said: As a man he is a true gent, once held the door open for me at the Harvester in Norwich. As a manager he is a monster, ask Darren Huckerby. That's all i will say I also remember when he was working as meeter and greeter at Harvester. His dish of the day patter and bread roll work was something to behold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santolijador Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 2 hours ago, Give it to Ron said: My lad reffed a game at Staplewood when Huckerby and Murty ran Norwich academy I think u16s. Huckerby was a complete twat and Murty often told him to be quiet. Good side Norwich won 3-1. His kids went to my school and they were similar. The youngest ended in in prison for assault or drugs or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 7 July, 2023 Share Posted 7 July, 2023 3 hours ago, Tamesaint said: I suppose that Harvester does offer a good salad bar but it is not the sort of restaurant where you would expect to find a vegan. 😁 Harvester has a pretty decent selection of vegan options tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 At Ageas last night happy to have pictures taken with fans and chat. He told mate we could look forward to some good football and season this year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 48 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: He told mate we could look forward to some good football and season this year. Was he drunk? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 I know it could all be for nothing, but I have to say I'm absolutely loving the clips of him being involved in training. It's beautiful. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 I think we have a really good egg, We are in for a very good season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 6 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: I think we have a really good egg, We are in for a very good season. We seem to have a feel good factor around the club, like we’re on the up not down. Even from the clips, you could say it’s been put out to look positive, but then look at the Nathan Jones clips. I think we’ll walk this league and im here for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: We seem to have a feel good factor around the club, like we’re on the up not down. Even from the clips, you could say it’s been put out to look positive, but then look at the Nathan Jones clips. I think we’ll walk this league and im here for it. The Nathan Jones videos were a car crash, Can't get his horrible voice out of my head. It just feels for now from the snippets that The gaffer is someone that will inspire. Edited 8 July, 2023 by SaintsFan86 . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 47 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I know it could all be for nothing, but I have to say I'm absolutely loving the clips of him being involved in training. It's beautiful. It is. And his relative youth and great touch and skill on the training track are promising assets. Perhaps a Scottish version of Mauricio P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 16 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: The Nathan Jones videos were a car crash, Can't get his horrible voice out of my head. It just feels for now from the snippets that The gaffer is someone that will inspire. This really. The Russell Martin clips look positive..because they are. Saints thought the Nathan Jones ones were but in fact I thought I was back at school watching an over-enthusiastic PE teacher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 58 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I know it could all be for nothing, but I have to say I'm absolutely loving the clips of him being involved in training. It's beautiful. I totally agree. He doesn’t seem to stand on the sidelines barking instructions to the players and his coaches during the drills. he seems fully committed into physically joining in. 🤷🏻♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 10 minutes ago, austsaint said: It is. And his relative youth and great touch and skill on the training track are promising assets. Perhaps a Scottish version of Mauricio P. You can just tell that the players are really going to respect him more when he can actually do what he is asking them to do (and by the looks of things be one of the best at doing it!) it's a really great start to changing the mentality of the team. I quite like him and hope he is a success. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 We've got Russell Martin, I just dont think you understand.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 50 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: it's a really great start to changing the mentality of the team. This. He does seem to be the right sort of character to bring a bit of positivity and passion to the place. So far so good. I still have my reservations but there is potential for a really good season if the players buy into his style of play and the squad is managed right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 8 July, 2023 Share Posted 8 July, 2023 Tend to agree, seems to have a confident aura from the videos. Am sure the positivity will disappear once Goztepe dick us next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 9 July, 2023 Share Posted 9 July, 2023 On 08/07/2023 at 09:35, austsaint said: It is. And his relative youth and great touch and skill on the training track are promising assets. Perhaps a Scottish version of Mauricio P. Scottish!? Have a look at a map and check where Brighton is - somewhere in the middle at the bottom if you're holding the map the right way up ( a clue: the arrow with an 'N' by it is pointing to the top). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 9 July, 2023 Share Posted 9 July, 2023 3 minutes ago, Victor said: Scottish!? Have a look at a map and check where Brighton is - somewhere in the middle at the bottom if you're holding the map the right way up ( a clue: the arrow with an 'N' by it is pointing to the top). Presumably he identifies as Scottish given he played for Scotland.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 9 July, 2023 Share Posted 9 July, 2023 10 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Presumably he identifies as Scottish given he played for Scotland.... Doesn't make him Scottish. My son played Aussie Rules for Ireland (amongst others!); he'd never been anywhere near Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 9 July, 2023 Share Posted 9 July, 2023 6 minutes ago, Victor said: Doesn't make him Scottish. My son played Aussie Rules for Ireland (amongst others!); he'd never been anywhere near Ireland. In a world where school kids can identify as a fucking cactus, a grown man choosing to identify as Scottish doesn't really cut it anymore in the "things that are weird" stakes. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 July, 2023 Share Posted 9 July, 2023 As Scottish as Che, presumably through parents or grandparents. Don’t see why there is such surprise. Presumably even as a vegan he can still eat a battered mars bar when he feels like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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