S-Clarke Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 Just now, hypochondriac said: You can't convince me we had the level of fitness last year that we had under Poch. Oh no probably not, but we weren't massively unfit - it was a combination of a confused style, and not being clever enough in conserving energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Oh no probably not, but we weren't massively unfit - it was a combination of a confused style, and not being clever enough in conserving energy. You don’t think Perraud for example was unfit? Christ have never seen anyone so knackered after one run. That not conserving energy it’s no stamina. At least yesterday they changed rules and we will have 5 subs in Championship that will help us if we have strong squad 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: Oh no probably not, but we weren't massively unfit - it was a combination of a confused style, and not being clever enough in conserving energy. A team needs to be clever(er) in conserving energy and thats a factor in why we went down? Ive heard it all now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 2 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Oh no probably not, but we weren't massively unfit - it was a combination of a confused style, and not being clever enough in conserving energy. I believe Russell Martin is an advocate of conserving energy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 6 hours ago, S-Clarke said: As soon as Jones kept shooting ''Gooooood'' and then 'Romeo Done'', i think we all formed the exact same opinion pretty sharpish. Didn't need anything longer than a min to know he was an idiot. "Loveeeelllllyyyyy.....Niceeeee...If we can now start enjoying ourselves and communicating what a morning we'll have" 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 Watching those pre-season vids, I spotted the following 1st team players: 1. Alex McCarthy 2. Kyle Walker-Peters 4. Lyanco Vojnovic 5. Jack Stephens 8. James Ward-Prowse 9. Adam Armstrong 10. Ché Adams 12. Paul Ounachu 14. James Bree 18. Sékou Mara 19. Moussa Djénépo 21. Tino Livramento 22. Mohammed Salisu 23. Samuel Edozie 26. Carlos Alcaraz Nathan Tella But, didn't see these. Unless I'm mistaken? 13. Willy Caballero 6. Duje Ćaleta-Car 7. Joe Aribo 15. Romain Perraud 17. Stuart Armstrong 20. Kamaldeen Sulemana 27. Ibrahima Diallo 28. Juan Larios 30. Mateusz Lis 31. Gavin Bazunu 35. Jan Bednarek 37. Armel Bella-Kotchap 45. Roméo Lavia Will Smallbone Plus there were some kids like Dom Ballard involved. Quite a few missing though, or just not shown on the vids? Looks like there were more the 2nd day, so likely more will join each day. After a week or so, it will fuel speculation on who's leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 3 minutes ago, Saint Mikey said: Watching those pre-season vids, I spotted the following 1st team players: 1. Alex McCarthy 2. Kyle Walker-Peters 4. Lyanco Vojnovic 5. Jack Stephens 8. James Ward-Prowse 9. Adam Armstrong 10. Ché Adams 12. Paul Ounachu 14. James Bree 18. Sékou Mara 19. Moussa Djénépo 21. Tino Livramento 22. Mohammed Salisu 23. Samuel Edozie 26. Carlos Alcaraz Nathan Tella But, didn't see these. Unless I'm mistaken? 13. Willy Caballero 6. Duje Ćaleta-Car 7. Joe Aribo 15. Romain Perraud 17. Stuart Armstrong 20. Kamaldeen Sulemana 27. Ibrahima Diallo 28. Juan Larios 30. Mateusz Lis 31. Gavin Bazunu 35. Jan Bednarek 37. Armel Bella-Kotchap 45. Roméo Lavia Will Smallbone Plus there were some kids like Dom Ballard involved. Quite a few missing though, or just not shown on the vids? Looks like there were more the 2nd day, so likely more will join each day. After a week or so, it will fuel speculation on who's leaving. Pretty sure I saw Diallo in one of the videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 7 minutes ago, Saint Mikey said: Watching those pre-season vids, I spotted the following 1st team players: 1. Alex McCarthy 2. Kyle Walker-Peters 4. Lyanco Vojnovic 5. Jack Stephens 8. James Ward-Prowse 9. Adam Armstrong 10. Ché Adams 12. Paul Ounachu 14. James Bree 18. Sékou Mara 19. Moussa Djénépo 21. Tino Livramento 22. Mohammed Salisu 23. Samuel Edozie 26. Carlos Alcaraz Nathan Tella But, didn't see these. Unless I'm mistaken? 13. Willy Caballero 6. Duje Ćaleta-Car 7. Joe Aribo 15. Romain Perraud 17. Stuart Armstrong 20. Kamaldeen Sulemana 27. Ibrahima Diallo 28. Juan Larios 30. Mateusz Lis 31. Gavin Bazunu 35. Jan Bednarek 37. Armel Bella-Kotchap 45. Roméo Lavia Will Smallbone Plus there were some kids like Dom Ballard involved. Quite a few missing though, or just not shown on the vids? Looks like there were more the 2nd day, so likely more will join each day. After a week or so, it will fuel speculation on who's leaving. Dialli and Caleta Car are there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 Some of the players missing are due to international commitments (obviously not all). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 12 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: Some of the players missing are due to international commitments (obviously not all). Yes, Diallo is artexing a ceiling for his uncle in Nantes. 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 1 July, 2023 Share Posted 1 July, 2023 Joe Aribo didn't make it past the first beep in the bleep test. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 1 July, 2023 Share Posted 1 July, 2023 14 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: Joe Aribo didn't make it past the first beep in the bleep test. Still making his way out of the dressing room, days after they packed it all away. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashnats Posted 1 July, 2023 Share Posted 1 July, 2023 35 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: Joe Aribo didn't make it past the first beep in the bleep test. https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/joe-aribo-rangers-endurance-test-24228446 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curse of St Mary's Posted 1 July, 2023 Share Posted 1 July, 2023 18 hours ago, Saint Mikey said: Watching those pre-season vids, I spotted the following 1st team players: 1. Alex McCarthy 2. Kyle Walker-Peters 4. Lyanco Vojnovic 5. Jack Stephens 8. James Ward-Prowse 9. Adam Armstrong 10. Ché Adams 12. Paul Ounachu 14. James Bree 18. Sékou Mara 19. Moussa Djénépo 21. Tino Livramento 22. Mohammed Salisu 23. Samuel Edozie 26. Carlos Alcaraz Nathan Tella But, didn't see these. Unless I'm mistaken? 13. Willy Caballero 6. Duje Ćaleta-Car 7. Joe Aribo 15. Romain Perraud 17. Stuart Armstrong 20. Kamaldeen Sulemana 27. Ibrahima Diallo 28. Juan Larios 30. Mateusz Lis 31. Gavin Bazunu 35. Jan Bednarek 37. Armel Bella-Kotchap 45. Roméo Lavia Will Smallbone Plus there were some kids like Dom Ballard involved. Quite a few missing though, or just not shown on the vids? Looks like there were more the 2nd day, so likely more will join each day. After a week or so, it will fuel speculation on who's leaving. Lavia there - https://www.facebook.com/100044283376917/posts/830336945119077/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v Diallo and DCC there. Sulemana, Small one, Stu, bednarek and Aribo were on Int duty so back later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 1 July, 2023 Share Posted 1 July, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Curse of St Mary's said: Lavia there - https://www.facebook.com/100044283376917/posts/830336945119077/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v Diallo and DCC there. Sulemana, Small one, Stu, bednarek and Aribo were on Int duty so back later. Lavia isn't there, Salisu is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curse of St Mary's Posted 1 July, 2023 Share Posted 1 July, 2023 2 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: Lavia isn't there, Salisu is? Zooming in it seems you are right it's Salisu. My bad. Easy mistake judging by comments on Facebook 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 1 July, 2023 Share Posted 1 July, 2023 1 hour ago, The Curse of St Mary's said: Zooming in it seems you are right it's Salisu. My bad. Easy mistake judging by comments on Facebook 😁 1 hour ago, The Curse of St Mary's said: Lavia there - https://www.facebook.com/100044283376917/posts/830336945119077/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v Diallo and DCC there. Sulemana, Small one, Stu, bednarek and Aribo were on Int duty so back later. Lavia isaway with Belgium for euro under 21s tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 1 July, 2023 Share Posted 1 July, 2023 57 minutes ago, stevy777_x said: Lavia isaway with Belgium for euro under 21s tournament I'm pretty sure he wasn't in their squad. They have also been knocked out of the tournament now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 1 July, 2023 Share Posted 1 July, 2023 1 hour ago, stevy777_x said: Lavia isaway with Belgium for euro under 21s tournament Is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 1 July, 2023 Share Posted 1 July, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Fabrice29 said: I'm pretty sure he wasn't in their squad. They have also been knocked out of the tournament now. You are correct - he withdrew due to injury according to this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_UEFA_European_Under-21_Championship_squads Edited 1 July, 2023 by waylander typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 July, 2023 Share Posted 1 July, 2023 3 hours ago, waylander said: You are correct - he withdrew due to injury accroding to this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_UEFA_European_Under-21_Championship_squads Ah, one of those injuries that mean you MUST attend a contract signing??? 😜 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 2 July, 2023 Share Posted 2 July, 2023 On 29/06/2023 at 13:20, notnowcato said: If you haven’t done so already I’d recommend watching Russell’s Coaches Voice video on YouTube; where he talks about a win v Cardiff. I genuinely don’t think his style is “possession for possession sake” not that I think any coach genuinely intends that to happen, but it is a much trotted out phrase to undermine teams that dominate the ball. I’m hoping the first thing he sorts out is the huge gap we constantly showed between our pivots and the attacking midfielders. I’m looking forward to seeing the team develop this season and like all fans want us to be successful. Precisely. The huge issue for us since and during Ralph was that the gap between defence and midfield was impossibly large. There was no route out from the back and hence invariably the ball ended up back to our goalkeeper or we were losing possession altogether. In possession we had everyone 50 yards in front of the ball, a ridiculous tactic that also left us completely open to counter attacks on the occasions we did manage to move forward. To defend JWP slightly, he had no outlet to pass to forwards which is why ( to some extent) he constantly ended up passing backwards. It was like writing in block capitals rather than joined up writing…. No cohesion or structure could be built. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 2 July, 2023 Share Posted 2 July, 2023 20 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Ah, one of those injuries that mean you MUST attend a contract signing??? 😜 North London knee! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 2 July, 2023 Share Posted 2 July, 2023 3 hours ago, captainchris said: Precisely. The huge issue for us since and during Ralph was that the gap between defence and midfield was impossibly large. There was no route out from the back and hence invariably the ball ended up back to our goalkeeper or we were losing possession altogether. In possession we had everyone 50 yards in front of the ball, a ridiculous tactic that also left us completely open to counter attacks on the occasions we did manage to move forward. To defend JWP slightly, he had no outlet to pass to forwards which is why ( to some extent) he constantly ended up passing backwards. It was like writing in block capitals rather than joined up writing…. No cohesion or structure could be built. With the shackles removed in our last game of the season, JWP was imperious. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 15 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: With the shackles removed in our last game of the season, JWP was imperious. To be fair to JWP, he was. I cannot see a situation where he stays at SFC in the Championship, but Martin's approach and technical gaps in opposition would likely suit him down to the ground. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegalEagle Posted 3 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 3 July, 2023 Martin will be desperate to keep JWP for this season. It makes RM's job far easier to have him in the side. I suspect that RM will be trying to pull out all of the stops and use all of his charm to convince him to stay. I think there's a reasonable chance he will stay - certainly for one season and at least possibly to convince him to stay until Christmas to see how we are doing and if we're off the pace at the turn of the year he can go in January. That's the card I would try and play with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 (edited) Edited 3 July, 2023 by SuperSAINT 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 Smallbone could do with putting on a few pounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 22 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: They look so much more engaged with Martins drills than Nathan’s 😂 for all his alleged amazing coaching skills, did they dare ever do one of these while Selles in charge? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 Finnigan and Bragg (both midfielders) joining the other youth Ballard, Dibling, Doyle, Meghoma and Amo-Ameyaw. Good to see the manager getting them involved. Think Finnigan was well regarded by the Crewe supporters during his loan last season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 26 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said: They look so much more engaged with Martins drills than Nathan’s 😂 for all his alleged amazing coaching skills, did they dare ever do one of these while Selles in charge? Different planet, engaged is spot on. Encouraging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 46 minutes ago, qwertyell said: Finnigan and Bragg (both midfielders) joining the other youth Ballard, Dibling, Doyle, Meghoma and Amo-Ameyaw. Good to see the manager getting them involved. Think Finnigan was well regarded by the Crewe supporters during his loan last season. I'd love to see Finnigan in around thr first team this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 5 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: I'd love to see Finnigan in around thr first team this year. I saw him play for Crewe last season and from what I saw he won’t be, although Crewe were dreadful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Carries himself with a nice sense of authority while coming across calm and in control. A bit different to Nathan fucking Jones who was like a drunk in a bar, desperately saying things to make an impression. No guarantee it translates to results, but at least he's not unbearable straight out the gate. Edited 3 July, 2023 by CSA96 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 Just now, CSA96 said: Carries himself with a nice sense of authority while coming across calm and in control. A bit different to Nathan fucking Jones who was like a drunk in a bar, desperately saying things to make an impression. "I BUILT LUTON BEFORE LUTON WERE COOL WITH THE GREATEST RESPECT" 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekelund Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 Very good! 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 With Farke set to be named Leeds manager tomorrow, who out the relegated clubs has appointed the best manager do we think? I think it might be us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 Obviously its just interviews but liking what he is saying so far. Nothing OTT, just clear, genuine, leader-like and easy to warm to. One of the biggest challenges this season is to really win back the fans and a manager who people trust and like will help a lot, assuming results and performances follow. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 22 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Carries himself with a nice sense of authority while coming across calm and in control. A bit different to Nathan fucking Jones who was like a drunk in a bar, desperately saying things to make an impression. No guarantee it translates to results, but at least he's not unbearable straight out the gate. Good 15 minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 29 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Carries himself with a nice sense of authority while coming across calm and in control. A bit different to Nathan fucking Jones who was like a drunk in a bar, desperately saying things to make an impression. No guarantee it translates to results, but at least he's not unbearable straight out the gate. Yep that's where I'm at. I've been a fan too long to get suckered in by someone who can talk a good game without backing it up on the pitch but at the very least I can listen to him without wanting to smash my phone in anger. Nathan Jones was just so wrong for the club and it was immediately obvious a couple of weeks in. I have confidence that that will not be the case this time even if he's ultimately unsuccessful. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 Really hope we are not utter shite again this upcoming season…you know… like the last couple. 🤷🏻♂️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 10 minutes ago, Dusic said: Obviously its just interviews but liking what he is saying so far. Nothing OTT, just clear, genuine, leader-like and easy to warm to. One of the biggest challenges this season is to really win back the fans and a manager who people trust and like will help a lot, assuming results and performances follow. Yes, the manager is the Club's frontman, spokesman and representative. We've had some who were good at it--Lawrie Mac and Koeman best I can think of. Mad Nat the worst. Lets hope this guy gives us and the football world in general, the feel good factor. it helps 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 July, 2023 Share Posted 3 July, 2023 5 minutes ago, saint lard said: Really hope we are not utter shite again this upcoming season…you know… like the last couple. 🤷🏻♂️ Agreed. Even if we dint go up, it woukd be nice to be competitive in every game and watch some nice football with the chance of some goals. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 10 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Agreed. Even if we dint go up, it woukd be nice to be competitive in every game and watch some nice football with the chance of some goals. Agreed again. Like others I was sceptical he was the man and there’s clearly a long way to demonstrate he’s the right fit, but so far he’s coming across very well and I like the way the club are once again giving us a small insight into life at Staplewood. The first big test for the Board is replacing our best leaving players with as good or better rather than diluting the quality even further…that’s going to be as key to Martins success as his managerial ability. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 17 hours ago, saint lard said: Really hope we are not utter shite again this upcoming season…you know… like the last couple. 🤷🏻♂️ We're going to get promoted don't worry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 18 hours ago, saint lard said: Really hope we are not utter shite again this upcoming season…you know… like the last couple. 🤷🏻♂️ Would you take second and a point off top, with better GD, if offered it now? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 33 minutes ago, Saint86 said: We're going to get promoted don't worry. cant we win the league and decline promotion? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 12 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Would you take second and a point off top, with better GD, if offered it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 4 July, 2023 Share Posted 4 July, 2023 16 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Would you take second and a point off top, with better GD, if offered it now? Course he wouldn’t, would be abject failure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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