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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

You can't convince me we had the level of fitness last year that we had under Poch. 

Oh no probably not, but we weren't massively unfit - it was a combination of a confused style, and not being clever enough in conserving energy.

Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Oh no probably not, but we weren't massively unfit - it was a combination of a confused style, and not being clever enough in conserving energy.

You don’t think Perraud for example was unfit? Christ have never seen anyone so knackered after one run. That not conserving energy it’s no stamina.

At least yesterday they changed rules and we will have 5 subs in Championship that will help us if we have strong squad 

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wild-saint

wild-saint

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1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

Oh no probably not, but we weren't massively unfit - it was a combination of a confused style, and not being clever enough in conserving energy.

A team needs to be clever(er) in conserving energy and thats a factor in why we went down? Ive heard it all now.  

Badger

Badger

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2 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

Oh no probably not, but we weren't massively unfit - it was a combination of a confused style, and not being clever enough in conserving energy.

I believe Russell Martin is an advocate of conserving energy.

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Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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6 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

As soon as Jones kept shooting ''Gooooood'' and then 'Romeo Done'', i think we all formed the exact same opinion pretty sharpish. Didn't need anything longer than a min to know he was an idiot.

"Loveeeelllllyyyyy.....Niceeeee...If we can now start enjoying ourselves and communicating what a morning we'll have"

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Saint Mikey

Saint Mikey

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Watching those pre-season vids, I spotted the following 1st team players:

  • 1. Alex McCarthy 
  • 2. Kyle Walker-Peters 
  • 4. Lyanco Vojnovic
  • 5. Jack Stephens 
  • 8. James Ward-Prowse
  • 9. Adam Armstrong 
  • 10. Ché Adams 
  • 12. Paul Ounachu
  • 14. James Bree 
  • 18. Sékou Mara 
  • 19. Moussa Djénépo 
  • 21. Tino Livramento 
  • 22. Mohammed Salisu 
  • 23. Samuel Edozie 
  • 26. Carlos Alcaraz 
  • Nathan Tella

But, didn't see these. Unless I'm mistaken?

  • 13. Willy Caballero 
  • 6. Duje Ćaleta-Car 
  • 7. Joe Aribo 
  • 15. Romain Perraud 
  • 17. Stuart Armstrong 
  • 20. Kamaldeen Sulemana 
  • 27. Ibrahima Diallo 
  • 28. Juan Larios 
  • 30. Mateusz Lis 
  • 31. Gavin Bazunu 
  • 35. Jan Bednarek 
  • 37. Armel Bella-Kotchap 
  • 45. Roméo Lavia 
  • Will Smallbone 

Plus there were some kids like Dom Ballard involved. Quite a few missing though, or just not shown on the vids? Looks like there were more the 2nd day, so likely more will join each day. After a week or so, it will fuel speculation on who's leaving.

 

 

Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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3 minutes ago, Saint Mikey said:

Watching those pre-season vids, I spotted the following 1st team players:

  • 1. Alex McCarthy 
  • 2. Kyle Walker-Peters 
  • 4. Lyanco Vojnovic
  • 5. Jack Stephens 
  • 8. James Ward-Prowse
  • 9. Adam Armstrong 
  • 10. Ché Adams 
  • 12. Paul Ounachu
  • 14. James Bree 
  • 18. Sékou Mara 
  • 19. Moussa Djénépo 
  • 21. Tino Livramento 
  • 22. Mohammed Salisu 
  • 23. Samuel Edozie 
  • 26. Carlos Alcaraz 
  • Nathan Tella

But, didn't see these. Unless I'm mistaken?

  • 13. Willy Caballero 
  • 6. Duje Ćaleta-Car 
  • 7. Joe Aribo 
  • 15. Romain Perraud 
  • 17. Stuart Armstrong 
  • 20. Kamaldeen Sulemana 
  • 27. Ibrahima Diallo 
  • 28. Juan Larios 
  • 30. Mateusz Lis 
  • 31. Gavin Bazunu 
  • 35. Jan Bednarek 
  • 37. Armel Bella-Kotchap 
  • 45. Roméo Lavia 
  • Will Smallbone 

Plus there were some kids like Dom Ballard involved. Quite a few missing though, or just not shown on the vids? Looks like there were more the 2nd day, so likely more will join each day. After a week or so, it will fuel speculation on who's leaving.

 

 

Pretty sure I saw Diallo in one of the videos.

Nolan

Nolan

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7 minutes ago, Saint Mikey said:

Watching those pre-season vids, I spotted the following 1st team players:

  • 1. Alex McCarthy 
  • 2. Kyle Walker-Peters 
  • 4. Lyanco Vojnovic
  • 5. Jack Stephens 
  • 8. James Ward-Prowse
  • 9. Adam Armstrong 
  • 10. Ché Adams 
  • 12. Paul Ounachu
  • 14. James Bree 
  • 18. Sékou Mara 
  • 19. Moussa Djénépo 
  • 21. Tino Livramento 
  • 22. Mohammed Salisu 
  • 23. Samuel Edozie 
  • 26. Carlos Alcaraz 
  • Nathan Tella

But, didn't see these. Unless I'm mistaken?

  • 13. Willy Caballero 
  • 6. Duje Ćaleta-Car 
  • 7. Joe Aribo 
  • 15. Romain Perraud 
  • 17. Stuart Armstrong 
  • 20. Kamaldeen Sulemana 
  • 27. Ibrahima Diallo 
  • 28. Juan Larios 
  • 30. Mateusz Lis 
  • 31. Gavin Bazunu 
  • 35. Jan Bednarek 
  • 37. Armel Bella-Kotchap 
  • 45. Roméo Lavia 
  • Will Smallbone 

Plus there were some kids like Dom Ballard involved. Quite a few missing though, or just not shown on the vids? Looks like there were more the 2nd day, so likely more will join each day. After a week or so, it will fuel speculation on who's leaving.

 

 

Dialli and Caleta Car are there.

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Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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12 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

Some of the players missing are due to international commitments (obviously not all).

Yes, Diallo is artexing a ceiling for his uncle in Nantes. 

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The Curse of St Mary's

The Curse of St Mary's

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18 hours ago, Saint Mikey said:

Watching those pre-season vids, I spotted the following 1st team players:

  • 1. Alex McCarthy 
  • 2. Kyle Walker-Peters 
  • 4. Lyanco Vojnovic
  • 5. Jack Stephens 
  • 8. James Ward-Prowse
  • 9. Adam Armstrong 
  • 10. Ché Adams 
  • 12. Paul Ounachu
  • 14. James Bree 
  • 18. Sékou Mara 
  • 19. Moussa Djénépo 
  • 21. Tino Livramento 
  • 22. Mohammed Salisu 
  • 23. Samuel Edozie 
  • 26. Carlos Alcaraz 
  • Nathan Tella

But, didn't see these. Unless I'm mistaken?

  • 13. Willy Caballero 
  • 6. Duje Ćaleta-Car 
  • 7. Joe Aribo 
  • 15. Romain Perraud 
  • 17. Stuart Armstrong 
  • 20. Kamaldeen Sulemana 
  • 27. Ibrahima Diallo 
  • 28. Juan Larios 
  • 30. Mateusz Lis 
  • 31. Gavin Bazunu 
  • 35. Jan Bednarek 
  • 37. Armel Bella-Kotchap 
  • 45. Roméo Lavia 
  • Will Smallbone 

Plus there were some kids like Dom Ballard involved. Quite a few missing though, or just not shown on the vids? Looks like there were more the 2nd day, so likely more will join each day. After a week or so, it will fuel speculation on who's leaving.

 

 

Lavia there - https://www.facebook.com/100044283376917/posts/830336945119077/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

Diallo and DCC there. Sulemana, Small one, Stu, bednarek and Aribo were on Int duty so back later. 

stevy777_x

stevy777_x

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1 hour ago, The Curse of St Mary's said:

Zooming in it seems you are right it's Salisu. My bad. Easy mistake judging by comments on Facebook 😁

 

1 hour ago, The Curse of St Mary's said:

Lavia there - https://www.facebook.com/100044283376917/posts/830336945119077/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

Diallo and DCC there. Sulemana, Small one, Stu, bednarek and Aribo were on Int duty so back later. 

Lavia isaway with Belgium for euro under 21s tournament 

Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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57 minutes ago, stevy777_x said:

 

Lavia isaway with Belgium for euro under 21s tournament 

I'm pretty sure he wasn't in their squad. They have also been knocked out of the tournament now.

captainchris

captainchris

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On 29/06/2023 at 13:20, notnowcato said:

If you haven’t done so already I’d recommend watching Russell’s Coaches Voice video on YouTube; where he talks about a win v Cardiff. 
 

I genuinely don’t think his style is “possession for possession sake” not that I think any coach genuinely intends that to happen, but it is a much trotted out phrase to undermine teams that dominate the ball. I’m hoping the first thing he sorts out is the huge gap we constantly showed between our pivots and the attacking midfielders. 
 

I’m looking forward to seeing the team develop this season and like all fans want us to be successful. 

Precisely. The huge issue for us since and during Ralph was that the gap between defence and midfield was impossibly large. There was no route out from the back and hence invariably the ball ended up back to our goalkeeper or we were losing possession altogether.

In possession we had everyone 50 yards in front of the ball, a ridiculous tactic that also left us completely open to counter attacks on the occasions we did manage to move forward.

To defend JWP slightly, he had no outlet to pass to forwards which is why ( to some extent) he constantly ended up passing backwards. 
 

It was like writing in block capitals rather than joined up writing…. No cohesion or structure could be built.
 

 

 

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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3 hours ago, captainchris said:

Precisely. The huge issue for us since and during Ralph was that the gap between defence and midfield was impossibly large. There was no route out from the back and hence invariably the ball ended up back to our goalkeeper or we were losing possession altogether.

In possession we had everyone 50 yards in front of the ball, a ridiculous tactic that also left us completely open to counter attacks on the occasions we did manage to move forward.

To defend JWP slightly, he had no outlet to pass to forwards which is why ( to some extent) he constantly ended up passing backwards. 
 

It was like writing in block capitals rather than joined up writing…. No cohesion or structure could be built.
 

 

 

With the shackles removed in our last game of the season, JWP was imperious.

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Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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15 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

With the shackles removed in our last game of the season, JWP was imperious.

To be fair to JWP, he was.  I cannot see a situation where he stays at SFC in the Championship, but Martin's approach and technical gaps in opposition would likely suit him down to the ground.

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LegalEagle

LegalEagle

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Martin will be desperate to keep JWP for this season. It makes RM's job far easier to have him in the side. I suspect that RM will be trying to pull out all of the stops and use all of his charm to convince him to stay. I think there's a reasonable chance he will stay - certainly for one season and at least possibly to convince him to stay until Christmas to see how we are doing and if we're off the pace at the turn of the year he can go in January. That's the card I would try and play with him.

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Crab Lungs

Crab Lungs

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22 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

 

They look so much more engaged with Martins drills than Nathan’s 😂

for all his alleged amazing coaching skills, did they dare ever do one of these while Selles in charge?

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qwertyell

qwertyell

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Finnigan and Bragg (both midfielders) joining the other youth Ballard, Dibling, Doyle, Meghoma and Amo-Ameyaw. Good to see the manager getting them involved.

Think Finnigan was well regarded by the Crewe supporters during his loan last season.

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Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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26 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said:

They look so much more engaged with Martins drills than Nathan’s 😂

for all his alleged amazing coaching skills, did they dare ever do one of these while Selles in charge?

Different planet, engaged is spot on. Encouraging.

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SaintsFan86

SaintsFan86

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46 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Finnigan and Bragg (both midfielders) joining the other youth Ballard, Dibling, Doyle, Meghoma and Amo-Ameyaw. Good to see the manager getting them involved.

Think Finnigan was well regarded by the Crewe supporters during his loan last season.

I'd love to see Finnigan in around thr first team this year.

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Turkish

Turkish

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5 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said:

I'd love to see Finnigan in around thr first team this year.

I saw him play for Crewe last season and from what I saw he won’t be, although Crewe were dreadful. 

CSA96

CSA96

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2 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

Carries himself with a nice sense of authority while coming across calm and in control. A bit different to Nathan fucking Jones who was like a drunk in a bar, desperately saying things to make an impression. No guarantee it translates to results, but at least he's not unbearable straight out the gate.

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SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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Just now, CSA96 said:

Carries himself with a nice sense of authority while coming across calm and in control. A bit different to Nathan fucking Jones who was like a drunk in a bar, desperately saying things to make an impression.

Photo of woman bored to death by male clubber is 'world's ...

"I BUILT LUTON BEFORE LUTON WERE COOL WITH THE GREATEST RESPECT"

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goodymatt

goodymatt

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With Farke set to be named Leeds manager tomorrow, who out the relegated clubs has appointed the best manager do we think? I think it might be us.

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Dusic

Dusic

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Obviously its just interviews but liking what he is saying so far.

Nothing OTT, just clear, genuine, leader-like and easy to warm to.

One of the biggest challenges this season is to really win back the fans and a manager who people trust and like will help a lot, assuming results and performances follow.

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Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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22 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

Carries himself with a nice sense of authority while coming across calm and in control. A bit different to Nathan fucking Jones who was like a drunk in a bar, desperately saying things to make an impression. No guarantee it translates to results, but at least he's not unbearable straight out the gate.

Good 15 minutes.

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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29 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

Carries himself with a nice sense of authority while coming across calm and in control. A bit different to Nathan fucking Jones who was like a drunk in a bar, desperately saying things to make an impression. No guarantee it translates to results, but at least he's not unbearable straight out the gate.

Yep that's where I'm at. I've been a fan too long to get suckered in by someone who can talk a good game without backing it up on the pitch but at the very least I can listen to him without wanting to smash my phone in anger. Nathan Jones was just so wrong for the club and it was immediately obvious a couple of weeks in. I have confidence that that will not be the case this time even if he's ultimately unsuccessful. 

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Dellman

Dellman

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10 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Obviously its just interviews but liking what he is saying so far.

Nothing OTT, just clear, genuine, leader-like and easy to warm to.

One of the biggest challenges this season is to really win back the fans and a manager who people trust and like will help a lot, assuming results and performances follow.

Yes, the manager is the Club's frontman, spokesman and representative. We've had some who were good at it--Lawrie Mac and Koeman best I can think of. Mad Nat the worst. Lets hope this guy gives us and the football world in general, the feel good factor. it helps

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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5 minutes ago, saint lard said:

Really hope we are not utter shite again this  upcoming season…you know… like the last couple. 
🤷🏻‍♂️

Agreed. Even if we dint go up, it woukd be nice to be competitive in every game and watch some nice football with the chance of some goals. 

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Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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10 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Agreed. Even if we dint go up, it woukd be nice to be competitive in every game and watch some nice football with the chance of some goals. 

Agreed again. Like others I was sceptical he was the man and there’s clearly a long way to demonstrate he’s the right fit, but so far he’s coming across very well and I like the way the club are once again giving us a small insight into life at Staplewood. The first big test for the Board is replacing our best leaving players with as good or better rather than diluting the quality even further…that’s going to be as key to Martins success as his managerial ability.

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Saint86

Saint86

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17 hours ago, saint lard said:

Really hope we are not utter shite again this  upcoming season…you know… like the last couple. 
🤷🏻‍♂️

We're going to get promoted don't worry.

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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18 hours ago, saint lard said:

Really hope we are not utter shite again this  upcoming season…you know… like the last couple. 
🤷🏻‍♂️

Would you take second and a point off top, with better GD, if offered it now?

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Mr X

Mr X

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12 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Would you take second and a point off top, with better GD, if offered it now?

 

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ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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16 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Would you take second and a point off top, with better GD, if offered it now?

Course he wouldn’t, would be abject failure. 

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