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24 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

What on earth makes him qualified for that? He's 71 and hasn't been involved in football management in any role for coming on twenty years now.

I wouldn't want him here personally, but it's pretty obvious that a a 71 year old who has played and managed at the top level, and has stayed close to the game in the media, is qualified to be involved. 

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4 minutes ago, egg said:

I wouldn't want him here personally, but it's pretty obvious that a a 71 year old who has played and managed at the top level, and has stayed close to the game in the media, is qualified to be involved. 

As old as Bobby Robson, Roy Hodgson and Alex Ferguson when they were managing in the PL, and only a year or two more than several others.

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9 minutes ago, egg said:

I wouldn't want him here personally, but it's pretty obvious that a a 71 year old who has played and managed at the top level, and has stayed close to the game in the media, is qualified to be involved. 

He’s a decent pundit but why anyone thinks he’s qualified as a technical/sporting director/DoF in 2024 I’ve no idea. He has no experience of that kind of role and hasn’t managed a team at all since being sacked by Newcastle 18 years ago.

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5 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

As old as Bobby Robson, Roy Hodgson and Alex Ferguson when they were managing in the PL, and only a year or two more than several others.

He’s the age Fergie and Bobby were when they retired. Not exactly fresh ideas and building for the future.

7 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

As opposed to the twats we have running the asylum now you mean?

Who decided they were the only two options?

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4 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Who decided they were the only two options?

Don't think I said they were. I was putting the opinion across that Souness, despite his age and your self percieved judgement that he is not equipped for the role, would be much better than anyone SR have in situ at the moment. 

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3 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Don't think I said they were. I was putting the opinion across that Souness, despite his age and your self percieved judgement that he is not equipped for the role, would be much better than anyone SR have in situ at the moment. 

Complete conjecture, you’ve no reason to think Souness would be much better than anyone. We could be fighting Pompey for relegation this season, having finished mid-table in the Championship last year and been forced to sell anyone half decent in summer. SR are getting it wrong, no doubt, but this is far from the worst that things could possibly have been.

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2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Complete conjecture, you’ve no reason to think Souness would be much better than anyone. We could be fighting Pompey for relegation this season, having finished mid-table in the Championship last year and been forced to sell anyone half decent in summer. SR are getting it wrong, no doubt, but this is far from the worst that things could possibly have been.

We could be next season. Souness ain't the answer for us though. The wrong man, yep, unqualified, no. 

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It was a well written decent article, no way was it an “in my day’ hatchet job.
 

The article started with Souness speaking as a spectator, how he turned over from watching Champions league tippy tappy Lego type ball, to watch a championship game. He then explained how it was different in his day, but how they were told to get it into the “badge kissers” early. Saying that Ronnie Moran used to stop the game after too many sideways passes, saying “that’s old mans football, I could play that”. He then broadened this to Lego, saying only the best could play this way, before questioning why Lego announces he won’t change & how this helps our opponent because they’ll know how we’ll play. He ends it by saying Real Madrid changed against City, went long and beat them, saying “that’s management “. 
 

It added to the debate. So what if he’s in his 70’s, you wouldn’t dismiss Paul McCartneys views on modern music with “ what’s that old cunt know about writing songs, he hasn’t had a hit for 40 years”. 

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11 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Complete conjecture, you’ve no reason to think Souness would be much better than anyone. We could be fighting Pompey for relegation this season, having finished mid-table in the Championship last year and been forced to sell anyone half decent in summer. SR are getting it wrong, no doubt, but this is far from the worst that things could possibly have been.

I didn't say he would be the answer, but we need people of that ilk from a footballing background.

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14 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Complete conjecture, you’ve no reason to think Souness would be much better than anyone. We could be fighting Pompey for relegation this season, having finished mid-table in the Championship last year and been forced to sell anyone half decent in summer. SR are getting it wrong, no doubt, but this is far from the worst that things could possibly have been.

In the original post I was replying to LD’s comment on Souness and mentioned his character:

‘He’s just the type that sport republic need as Director of Football’ 

So ‘just the type’ not an option, that would be silly, and a non starter for GS by since  his second heart attack. Any conjecture or post conjecture berating of other posters seems to be based on your reaction. 

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2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

It was a well written decent article, no way was it an “in my day’ hatchet job.
 

The article started with Souness speaking as a spectator, how he turned over from watching Champions league tippy tappy Lego type ball, to watch a championship game. He then explained how it was different in his day, but how they were told to get it into the “badge kissers” early. Saying that Ronnie Moran used to stop the game after too many sideways passes, saying “that’s old mans football, I could play that”. He then broadened this to Lego, saying only the best could play this way, before questioning why Lego announces he won’t change & how this helps our opponent because they’ll know how we’ll play. He ends it by saying Real Madrid changed against City, went long and beat them, saying “that’s management “. 
 

It added to the debate. So what if he’s in his 70’s, you wouldn’t dismiss Paul McCartneys views on modern music with “ what’s that old cunt know about writing songs, he hasn’t had a hit for 40 years”. 

Nobody is dismissing Souness’ views on football, he’s a decent pundit who’s well worth listening to. However I wouldn’t want him as sporting director of my football club any more than I’d want Paul McCarthy as director of my record label.

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7 hours ago, Miltonaggro said:

More likely Steve ‘gene pool’ Cooper to be honest, Potter possibly knocking on farmhouse door on a hiking holiday looking to buy some fudge. 

???

Have I missed something or are we already stockpiling the insults, just in case he is appointed? 

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I realise I feel sorry for Martin. Yes, he could resign but I think he's actually being paid to twist in the wind till the end of the season. There's really no point in getting someone else in to take all the shit whilst we get relegated. So, he cops it for a few months, gets paid out while sr do what they're doing, whatever that is 

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40 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

7 points and 8 worse GD than Ipswich before Xmas. Shocking performance, just shows how poor a job Lego is doing. Beggars belief that anyone can defend this fraud anymore. 

Indeed. Out of interest is anyone still defending him? 

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7 minutes ago, tpbury said:

I realise I feel sorry for Martin. Yes, he could resign but I think he's actually being paid to twist in the wind till the end of the season. There's really no point in getting someone else in to take all the shit whilst we get relegated. So, he cops it for a few months, gets paid out while sr do what they're doing, whatever that is 

I don't. He's raking in more money than most make in a lifetime for being absolutely shit at his job. I don't hate him though, my vitriol is 100% aimed at the person responsible for this mess, Rasmus F*cking Ankersen.

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11 minutes ago, tpbury said:

I realise I feel sorry for Martin. Yes, he could resign but I think he's actually being paid to twist in the wind till the end of the season. There's really no point in getting someone else in to take all the shit whilst we get relegated. So, he cops it for a few months, gets paid out while sr do what they're doing, whatever that is 

Wanking in the bath tub it would seem.

If not that, then the square root of fuck all. 

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20 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

Indeed. Out of interest is anyone still defending him? 

he’s a poor coach but he was given a pretty terrible hand in terms of our forward recruitment ( assuming that he didn’t target the shed united strike force) 

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6 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

What on earth makes him qualified for that? He's 71 and hasn't been involved in football management in any role for coming on twenty years now.

Has he won more than 1 game in PL history? If so, he’s more qualified than the current dickhead we have. 

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7 hours ago, OldNick said:

Morsy shot took a massive deflection and would not have gone in it hadnt

It looked on target from where I was sitting. 

Whatever, he should never have had the time and space to take it. We also have to consider the rest of the game. 

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21 minutes ago, Galway saint said:

he’s a poor coach but he was given a pretty terrible hand in terms of our forward recruitment ( assuming that he didn’t target the shed united strike force) 

It wouldn't matter who we had up front. Under Martin we never get up there quickly enough. 

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33 minutes ago, Galway saint said:

he’s a poor coach but he was given a pretty terrible hand in terms of our forward recruitment ( assuming that he didn’t target the shed united strike force) 

If we'd signed Delap as we tried to, it wouldn't have made an ounce of difference as he wouldn't see the ball ever in the positions he gets it at Ipswich.

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2 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

If we'd signed Delap as we tried to, it wouldn't have made an ounce of difference as he wouldn't see the ball ever in the positions he gets it at Ipswich.

We'd have made him look a carthorse, although possibly a better calibre of one  than BBD.

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21 minutes ago, LGTL said:

Has he won more than 1 game in PL history? If so, he’s more qualified than the current dickhead we have. 

That's an absolutely nonsense argument, so have Redknapp, Pellegrino and Selles. Say what you want about Martin and SR, there is no reason on Earth to think that Graeme bloody Souness would be a good DoF. Brighton, Bournemouth, Villa, Forest and all the other flavours of the month seem to agree on that unanimously.

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3 hours ago, Badger said:

???

Have I missed something or are we already stockpiling the insults, just in case he is appointed? 

Think we’ve been beaten there by the Swansea, forest and Leicester fanbases. Would still take him over Martin.  

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1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said:

Think we’ve been beaten there by the Swansea, forest and Leicester fanbases. Would still take him over Martin.  

I think he was popular and retained the support at both Swansea, and especially Forest. 

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5 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

That's an absolutely nonsense argument, so have Redknapp, Pellegrino and Selles. Say what you want about Martin and SR, there is no reason on Earth to think that Graeme bloody Souness would be a good DoF. Brighton, Bournemouth, Villa, Forest and all the other flavours of the month seem to agree on that unanimously.

I’d have a Redknapp, Pellegrino and Selles triple over fucking Russell Martin. You could even add mad Nate for a real dream team if you wanted to, and it would still be an improvement. 

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6 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

It wouldn't matter who we had up front. Under Martin we never get up there quickly enough. 

6th in the league in touches, 16th in the league in touches in the attacking penalty area. 3rd in the league in passes received, 15th in the league in progressive passes received (successful passes into the penalty area, or passes in the attacking 60% of the pitch which move the ball forward 10 yards or more from its furthest point in the prior six passes). 6th in the league in possession, 19th in the league in shot-creating actions, 20th in the league in shots.

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