Russell Martin

[Mboto Gorge]

1 minute ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Is Jordan Sibley still at the club? Thought he left years ago.

More importantly, on a scale of 1-10 how believable are people taking the rumours that Russ has gone/going?

Oh he’s still there alright. 

[Fabrice29]

4 minutes ago, HedgeEnder said:

Are you actually a Saints fan? Serious question.

No , I'm Jordan Sibley, head of PR and comms at the club . Have a read of the last page. Or 2 pages ago I was Lucy Pinder I think. Whichever suits.

[Gloucester Saint]

Martin’s outbursts at the fans are being noted across the profession as well as the repeat fuck ups from trying to repetitively slow play out from the back. He’s verging on unemployable now in management, might be able to forge a media career perhaps?

[Turkish]

40 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

About 3 days ago I was agreeing with you that Cortese was a knob, now I collected his suits? No idea what people were sold at St Marys either. You lot are unhinged but I cant promise I won't revel in it.  

You  now agree he’s a knob as for one you realise how he mugged you off and for two we all know how you’ll stab anyone in the back to get what you want. 

[Fabrice29]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

You  now agree he’s a knob as for one you realise how he mugged you off and for two we all know how you’ll stab anyone in the back to get what you want. 

Cheers for clarifying. Now who is it you accused me of being before, can you remember? I went looking but couldn't find it.

[Gloucester Saint]

9 minutes ago, Turkish said:

You  now agree he’s a knob as for one you realise how he mugged you off and for two we all know how you’ll stab anyone in the back to get what you want. 

SaintsFan86 is one of his other logins.

[SaintsFan86]

Just now, Gloucester Saint said:

SaintsFan86 is one of his other logins.

No I'm not.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

I'm Spartacus!

[hypochondriac]

11 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

SaintsFan86 is one of his other logins.

No it's original Bournemouth Saint and deppo. 

[AlexLaw76]

He will end up bumming around 8-14th place in the championship, with the likes of Stoke, Bristol City, QPR or Cardiff… playing good stuff but conceding shed load of goals.

Edited 8 December, 2024 by AlexLaw76

[Miltonaggro]

6 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Martin’s outbursts at the fans are being noted across the profession as well as the repeat fuck ups from trying to repetitively slow play out from the back. He’s verging on unemployable now in management, might be able to forge a media career perhaps?

Or in dry cleaning.

[tdmickey3]

15 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

Or in dry cleaning.

Hair and beard studio 

[Charlie Wayman]

9 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

There's a difference. The people at the club get paid to be there. The fans have to pay to be there.

In other words people at the cub have no choice whereas the fans do. I wish fans would use their choice more often. Many say but few do.

[Charlie Wayman]

9 hours ago, Dr Who? said:

22:43? It’s only 22:25 now! 🤔 

spoiler!

[Strangely Brown]

6 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

No , I'm Jordan Sibley, head of PR and comms at the club . Have a read of the last page. Or 2 pages ago I was Lucy Pinder I think. Whichever suits.

Great either way, so can you tell the club that their 10 year plan is not convincing the fans at all and that if they persist with the Ankersen vanity project that includes Russell Martin, that an empty stadium will look extremely embarrassing on TV. 

if you are Lucy Pinder, can you just tell Russell that he stays in the spare bedroom until he comes to his senses or leaves Southampton Football Club

Thank you

 

[tdmickey3]

7 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

No , I'm Jordan Sibley, head of PR and comms at the club . Have a read of the last page. Or 2 pages ago I was Lucy Pinder I think. Whichever suits.

We all know what you really are 

[austsaint]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

He will end up bumming around 8-14th place in the championship, with the likes of Stoke, Bristol City, QPR or Cardiff… playing good stuff but conceding shed load of goals.

Which effectively is where our Nigel (Adkins) ended up. The difference being he is a Club legend after the two promotions and a reasonable showing in the Prem prior to Cortese’s intervention.   He was also a genuinely good bloke - very few on this site would have a bad word to say.    When Martin is shown the door, he has a massive job to rebuild any reputation.   QPR could be his destination Club.

[Toussaint]

1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said:

Or in dry cleaning.

The injustice is, if he chooses, he would never have to lift a finger again having been rewarded so handsomely for his unprecedented failure. 

[SaintsBarry74]

We are projected to finish on 12/13 points based on our current points per game ratio. Should be just enough to avoid snatching the record from Derby.

[Harry_SFC]

1 minute ago, Toussaint said:

The injustice is, if he chooses, he would never have to lift a finger again having been rewarded so handsomely for his unprecedented failure. 

The process will have worked for Russ.

Just now, SaintsBarry74 said:

We are projected to finish on 12/13 points based on our current points per game ratio. Should be just enough to avoid snatching the record from Derby.

That's great news, he's overachieving!

[Viking Saint]

7 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I'm Spartacus!

I'm Brian and so is my wife

[egg]

7 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

No it's original Bournemouth Saint and deppo. 

I'm not convinced, but he ain't Sibley. I'm more interested in this Mboto character - clearly an alt username for another poster. 

[egg]

10 minutes ago, Viking Saint said:

I'm Brian and so is my wife

I've met your missus. Nice lad. 

[Chewy]

4 minutes ago, egg said:

I'm not convinced, but he ain't Sibley. I'm more interested in this Mboto character - clearly an alt username for another poster. 

There’s a poster who’s made blackadder jokes on here for a while, the mboto gorge username is also from blackadder. I don’t think it’s especially well disguised.

Never understand having multiple usernames but whatever.

As for Fabrice, he’s clearly not thick, but he never responds to well-structured ripostes because he can’t win those arguments so slinks off.

As for RM … either he knows he’s going or he’s utterly lost the plot with his post-match comments. You can not attack the fans and survive. That’s on a tactical level. On a moral/behavioral level it’s simply disgusting. They pay your wages, follow the club passionately their entire lives, and many of them know a good deal about football. It’s contemptuous, arrogant and fucking rude. Which is increasingly what I find to be RMs most common personality traits.

And I don’t care if the players and staff still like him.
A) his job is to win games first and make friends second. It can be easier to achieve part 1 with part 2 in place but justifying failure with part 1 - your fucking job - on the basis that part 2 is fine, is the definition of cart before the horse. 

B) I couldn’t actually care anyway. Too many of the players and staff are used to being rewarded and praised for … not even mediocrity but downright sub-standard performances. I don’t want Jack Stephen’s ‘happy’ with his lot. Or anyone in the recruitment team. Or the marketing department. I don’t care if RM smiles at them and politely says hello, and tells them he thinks they’re wonderful. 
They’ve almost all been utterly crap since SR took over.  This is a business and is one in elite sport where performance is the one metric that defines success. In no other business is it targeted quite so uniquely, on one final league table per year. Anything else literally doesn’t matter.  Some of it is ‘nice’ and can help achieve that target, but the target is literally everything in football.

Score a goal, don’t let in a goal, win a game, climb the table.

And at all of those things, RM is an abject failure. Nice? Fuck off. Players like him? Fuck off. Philosophy and identity? Fuck off.

Score a goal, don’t let in a goal, win a game, climb the table. And if you can’t do it, then go.

[sfc4prem]

Surely Rusty has to go. Even last season, in the Championship, there were doubts at times about his intransigence and ability to organise his defence. He's doubled down and we will now surely be one of the earliest confirmed relegation the PL has seen.

See you later, Rusty.

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said:

In other words people at the cub have no choice whereas the fans do. I wish fans would use their choice more often. Many say but few do.

It's difficult when you've forked out for a whole season.

[FarehamSaintJames]

Dan Ashworth has just been let go by Man United.
After initially waiting six months for his gardening leave and paying £5M they’ve released him. At least we aren’t the only comedy club in the land.

Didn’t he and Graham Potter work together at Brighton?

Just saying.

[Chewy]

3 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Dan Ashworth has just been let go by Man United.
After initially waiting six months for his gardening leave and paying £5M they’ve released him. At least we aren’t the only comedy club in the land.

Didn’t he and Graham Potter work together at Brighton?

Just saying.

It’s probably not a coincidence, but unfortunately for us I suspect they’ll be teaming up elsewhere. I hope I’m wrong.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 minutes ago, Chewy said:

It’s probably not a coincidence, but unfortunately for us I suspect they’ll be teaming up elsewhere. I hope I’m wrong.

West Ham or Wolves most likely 

[Lord Duckhunter]

I’ve never liked the twat, didn’t last season and haven’t this season. He’s an arrogant cock. The one thing I’ve noticed is most people who criticise him used to say, “he’s a nice guy”, or “I like him as a bloke”. There’s none of that now. People seem to dislike his football, dislike his results, and now dislike him. There’s no coming back from that. 

[whelk]

9 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I’ve never liked the twat, didn’t last season and haven’t this season. He’s an arrogant cock. The one thing I’ve noticed is most people who criticise him used to say, “he’s a nice guy”, or “I like him as a bloke”. There’s none of that now. People seem to dislike his football, dislike his results, and now dislike him. There’s no coming back from that. 

Have you noticed no one calls him Lego?

[Mr X]

11 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I’ve never liked the twat, didn’t last season and haven’t this season. He’s an arrogant cock. The one thing I’ve noticed is most people who criticise him used to say, “he’s a nice guy”, or “I like him as a bloke”. There’s none of that now. People seem to dislike his football, dislike his results, and now dislike him. There’s no coming back from that. 

Yet hes still here so SR obviously see something in him that we don't unfortunately 😭

Edited 8 December, 2024 by Mr X

[RedWillie]

16 minutes ago, Mr X said:

Yet hes still here so SR obviously see something in him that we don't unfortunately 😭

Costing them £12m if the rumours are true 😁

[Sarnia Cherie]

10 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Martin’s outbursts at the fans are being noted across the profession as well as the repeat fuck ups from trying to repetitively slow play out from the back. He’s verging on unemployable now in management, might be able to forge a media career perhaps?

Southampton FC must be a laughing stock across all levels in football. The only ones who can't see the joke are us long suffering fans. 

[AlexLaw76]

Never thought he was all that last season. Came in and did the minimum required

 

[FarehamSaintJames]

The sad thing is I don’t think the rumours are true.

We've heard this “imminent sacking” rumour maybe three times now in the last six weeks. It’s boring now.

If they were going to do it at a sensible time it was a month ago.

[westmidlandsaint]

Living up here in the West Midlands I obviously know a lot of Villa, Birmingham, Wolves, West Brom fans etc

I've never really bought into this "we're a laughing stock" mainly because I don't think other fans really give too hoots. When we were relegated last time no-one up here cared. However, more and more recently I have these fans asking "why do you keep on playing out from the back when you keep making so many mistakes you're asking to be relegated" and "why is Martin so pig-headed"

 

 

[Badger]

10 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Martin’s outbursts at the fans are being noted across the profession as well as the repeat fuck ups from trying to repetitively slow play out from the back. He’s verging on unemployable now in management, might be able to forge a media career perhaps?

Are they though ? I think this goes under the radar of national media, and is glossed over by the local press( Who should make it more of an issue in my view).

RM is a lot more measured in his delivery than Nathan Jones who of course went into public meltdown mode after the Brentford game. The press couldn’t miss that. 

[Weston Super Saint]

50 minutes ago, RedWillie said:

Costing them £12m if the rumours are true 😁

Maybe they're waiting until we are mathematically relegated before sacking him as the relegation clause would kick in and it'll be cheaper  

[Wsaint]

You people really like discussing people being other people, this thread has turned in to a really shit episode of scooby doo.

 

41 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

The sad thing is I don’t think the rumours are true.

We've heard this “imminent sacking” rumour maybe three times now in the last six weeks. It’s boring now.

If they were going to do it at a sensible time it was a month ago.

Of course it's not true it's a bunch of cunts on twitter desperate for attention, to appear like they know things others don't. Come on your normally the first on here to go off about the dorks on there 😂

[Gloucester Saint]

2 hours ago, Chewy said:

There’s a poster who’s made blackadder jokes on here for a while, the mboto gorge username is also from blackadder. I don’t think it’s especially well disguised.

Never understand having multiple usernames but whatever.

As for Fabrice, he’s clearly not thick, but he never responds to well-structured ripostes because he can’t win those arguments so slinks off.

As for RM … either he knows he’s going or he’s utterly lost the plot with his post-match comments. You can not attack the fans and survive. That’s on a tactical level. On a moral/behavioral level it’s simply disgusting. They pay your wages, follow the club passionately their entire lives, and many of them know a good deal about football. It’s contemptuous, arrogant and fucking rude. Which is increasingly what I find to be RMs most common personality traits.

And I don’t care if the players and staff still like him.
A) his job is to win games first and make friends second. It can be easier to achieve part 1 with part 2 in place but justifying failure with part 1 - your fucking job - on the basis that part 2 is fine, is the definition of cart before the horse. 

B) I couldn’t actually care anyway. Too many of the players and staff are used to being rewarded and praised for … not even mediocrity but downright sub-standard performances. I don’t want Jack Stephen’s ‘happy’ with his lot. Or anyone in the recruitment team. Or the marketing department. I don’t care if RM smiles at them and politely says hello, and tells them he thinks they’re wonderful. 
They’ve almost all been utterly crap since SR took over.  This is a business and is one in elite sport where performance is the one metric that defines success. In no other business is it targeted quite so uniquely, on one final league table per year. Anything else literally doesn’t matter.  Some of it is ‘nice’ and can help achieve that target, but the target is literally everything in football.

Score a goal, don’t let in a goal, win a game, climb the table.

And at all of those things, RM is an abject failure. Nice? Fuck off. Players like him? Fuck off. Philosophy and identity? Fuck off.

Score a goal, don’t let in a goal, win a game, climb the table. And if you can’t do it, then go.

☝️ 

[pimpin4rizeal]

If he’s not gone by tomorrow I suggest voting with your feet and wallets .. and boycott the game .. they wanna act like they can do what they want and ignore 90 percent of the fan base fine but we ain’t gotta turn up and sit through this shit 

[SaintsBarry74]

1 hour ago, westmidlandsaint said:

Living up here in the West Midlands I obviously know a lot of Villa, Birmingham, Wolves, West Brom fans etc

I've never really bought into this "we're a laughing stock" mainly because I don't think other fans really give too hoots. When we were relegated last time no-one up here cared. However, more and more recently I have these fans asking "why do you keep on playing out from the back when you keep making so many mistakes you're asking to be relegated" and "why is Martin so pig-headed"

 

 

Same experience here, my mates and colleagues have also started taking the piss about our suicidal tactics. I think other fans started noticing after Pep’s comments about wanting to learn from RM, followed by their unprecedented losing streak that came after. 

The commentators and media have also definitely caught on. Over the past week, they’ve highlighted how meaningless and one-dimensional our approach to the game is, or, as we all know by now, high-risk, low(no)-reward football. We’re clearly not as bad as Derby if you actually watch us play, but we gift so many goals due to RM’s dreadful tactics that, results-wise, we’re currently on par with their record-low season.

I feel like, unlike our previous relegation, this time we’re undeniably the laughing stock of the league.

[Mr X]

1 hour ago, RedWillie said:

Costing them £12m if the rumours are true 😁

And what had they seen to warrant offering him a new contract? Promotion was the bare minimum and we finished fourth still conceding lots of goals along the way and putting in some questionable performances! They had no evidence that his style would work in the premier league with our players and lots of evidence to the contrary yet still they extended his contract...... Lunacy! the man is going to pocket a small fortune for being a premier league failure 

[Miltonaggro]

Rather typical of Sport Republic that they can't even manage a fucking sacking competently.

[Badger]

19 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

If he’s not gone by tomorrow I suggest voting with your feet and wallets .. and boycott the game .. they wanna act like they can do what they want and ignore 90 percent of the fan base fine but we ain’t gotta turn up and sit through this shit 

Probably isn’t 90% of the fanbase so much as 90% of the Internet forums.

It may change but at the moment the natives have yet to really stir (as we did with Branfoot and Lowe many years ago). 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

4 hours ago, Viking Saint said:

I'm Brian and so is my wife

Bweaking news...

Wussell weweased!

[Lord Duckhunter]

15 minutes ago, Mr X said:

And what had they seen to warrant offering him a new contract? Promotion was the bare minimum and we finished fourth still conceding lots of goals along the way and putting in some questionable performances! They had no evidence that his style would work in the premier league with our players and lots of evidence to the contrary yet still they extended his contract...... Lunacy! the man is going to pocket a small fortune for being a premier league failure 

I think every single manager that walked through the door would have demanded a clause which triggered a new contract after promotion. Anyone that didn’t should probably consider getting a new agent. 
 

Length of contracts shouldn’t really matter at this early stage, there should be a break clause so we don’t have to pay the whole lot up. He could sign a 10 year contract but if they only have to pay 2 years in the event of sacking him, it’s basically a 2 year deal. You’d hope the contract had the same settlement length even if the actual amount would rise because of the pay increase. I can’t see the difference in salary breaking the bank, but you never know with these chumps. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Radio discussing a manager's response to fans. They all feel it was unacceptable, could have been avoided and their results tell their own story.

It's Spurs they are talking about. Then moved onto Chelsea, then Arsenal...

They couldn't care less about us, as they consider us to be one of the fodder clubs for the big 6 they obsessed over. And their obsession is so lacking in insight as to be worthless anyway.

[Miltonaggro]

1 minute ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Radio discussing a manager's response to fans. They all feel it was unacceptable, could have been avoided and their results tell their own story.

It's Spurs they are talking about. Then moved onto Chelsea, then Arsenal...

They couldn't care less about us, as they consider us to be one of the fodder clubs for the big 6 they obsessed over. And their obsession is so lacking in insight as to be worthless anyway.

Think the clueless mainstream media are happy to see our club as a punchbag and whipping boys for the franchises - easy pickings and easy points, most Saints supporters aren't!