Russell Martin

[whelk]

5 hours ago, egg said:

I'd argue a case for Aribo being a reasonable squad player, and I'm not sure how much of the ABK debacle is down to the player or bad man management.  But yep, shocking business and a monumental waste of money. 

Heard direct from a Saints first team player that ABK is the worst professional he has ever played with. Martin is completely useless but by sounds of it not many managers would tolerate him

[Miltonaggro]

3 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

'Belief'... so vague, so fucking hard to evidence. Very easy for Russell to talk about. Cop out.

Yep, such a blatant fraud.

[SWLondon Saint]

4 minutes ago, Nieldy said:

He is really winding me up now.Im usually a mild mannered person but he so far up his own backside.He doesn't care about the club and the fans.Its all about himself and thinks he is bigger than the club, believing all the hype he hears off Pep and other managers about his style of football.Thinks he should be at a bigger club.Supported saints since early 80s and he is top of my list of the most disliked manager and we have had a few bad managers.Rant over where are my blood pressure tablets.

If he somehow got a job at a bigger club, the players would see through him as a total fraud in about 5 minutes I reckon. But let's face it, no club other than us is gonna be stupid enough to give him another chance after this shitshow.

[spyinthesky]

Just now, whelk said:

Heard direct from a Saints first team player that ABK is the worst professional he has ever played with. Martin is completely useless but by sounds of it not many managers would tolerate him

I wonder if that is why we cant get any offers in for him?
Conversely why didnt the club check out his background when signing him?
The personalities of players are a big factor as well as their playing ability.
 

[Badger]

10 minutes ago, bugenhagen said:

Have some sympathy with the man...

No other manager has had to continously make interviews and pressers over such a long and poor period. To come up with shit to say, every week after the same horrible mistakes and toothless displays, must take its toll.

He is very brave. Out of his league, out of depht, out of ideas - he takes a beating every week and has to talk about it...

Simple solution: bugger off then …

[badgerx16]

Replacing him will not keep us up, but it might stop us being a complete joke.

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

2 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Replacing him will not keep us up, but it might stop us being a complete joke.

It won't keep us up - that chance is gone. We are now just hoping we can get past the worst ever record in the PL. Please get rid of this bearded fraud who is now blaming our away fans for losing at villa. Arrogant useless twat

[Whitey Grandad]

19 minutes ago, bugenhagen said:

Have some sympathy with the man...

No other manager has had to continously make interviews and pressers over such a long and poor period. To come up with shit to say, every week after the same horrible mistakes and toothless displays, must take its toll.

He is very brave. Out of his league, out of depht, out of ideas - he takes a beating every week and has to talk about it...

That's what he's paid for 

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Barsiem said:

What an arrogant pr*ck....

Yeah, right. So kick it short instead and have it come back within 5 seconds.

[Saint Gifford]

3 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That's what he's paid for 

💯 % right. It’s within his gift to change it. 

It’s down to him why he is having to repeat the same boring crap.

At least if you change direction catch a few teams out, and still lose. You will at least have something different to talk about in the end of game interview. 

I can’t remember who the quote comes from but “if you continue to do the same thing, you will continue to get the same results”

Its some better yourself, coaching for success book I’ve got somewhere. Maybe I should lend it to RM.
 

 

[bugenhagen]

19 minutes ago, Badger said:

Simple solution: bugger off then …

It was a joke, I thought it was "clear and obvious" so didn't bother with emotes.

But on a serious note, no manager is ever going to quit and walk away from a hefty comp...

[Toussaint]

1 hour ago, Harry_SFC said:

Yep - absolutely no need to bring the fans into it but he can't help himself. Just does it to make himself feel better. Absolute joker. 

Because, as several posters have suggested, he is a classic narcissist. It’s a very common trait, they cannot accept responsibility for something going wrong, it has to be the fault of others. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

27 minutes ago, whelk said:

Heard direct from a Saints first team player that ABK is the worst professional he has ever played with. Martin is completely useless but by sounds of it not many managers would tolerate him

Can you ask him what he thinks of Martin and if he loves the way we play?

[benali-shorts]

30 minutes ago, whelk said:

Heard direct from a Saints first team player that ABK is the worst professional he has ever played with. Martin is completely useless but by sounds of it not many managers would tolerate him

To clarify - was the first team player also stating that Martin is completely useless? 

[Oldandtired]

32 minutes ago, whelk said:

Heard direct from a Saints first team player that ABK is the worst professional he has ever played with. Martin is completely useless but by sounds of it not many managers would tolerate him

Surely should fit in well at SFC then. How many clubs would tolerate our manager?

Edited 7 December, 2024 by Oldandtired

[bugenhagen]

12 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That's what he's paid for 

Not intended to be taken seriously. Thought it was clear and obvious...😉

 

[BarberSaint]

2 minutes ago, bugenhagen said:

Not intended to be taken seriously. Thought it was clear and obvious...😉

 

I got it.

 

On another note I think we have to accept that they'll keep RM and do want us to go down.

[LGTL]

He was 10/1 to be sacked earlier today. That’s now come in to 1/4 on. Hopefully they know something. 

[bugenhagen]

3 minutes ago, BarberSaint said:

I got it.

 

On another note I think we have to accept that they'll keep RM and do want us to go down.

But he must be losing the dressing room soon... some of the things he is saying now...

That is my only hope. Once he does that, he will lose his job. 

I don't think you can lose as many games and then bounce back next year. Something breaks...

[Sheaf Saint]

6 minutes ago, LGTL said:

He was 10/1 to be sacked earlier today. That’s now come in to 1/4 on. Hopefully they know something. 

[Wade Garrett]

43 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Replacing him will not keep us up, but it might stop us being a complete joke.

Get rid so I’ll actually enjoy going to games.

[St. Ciervo]

5 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Get rid so I’ll actually enjoy going to games.

It seriously feels like a chore now. I think I only support the team each week out of habit, at this point.

[saintant]

Thanks for turning our club into a laughing stock Russell. Glad you're enjoying it because 99% of the fan base are hating it. 

[Pamplemousse]

It's time up now unfortunately. I really wanted him to succeed, and I expected us to be in a relegation battle anyway, but it's time to roll the dice. And now is the time to do it because we have a nice period before our next game; zero point in doing it afterwards when we have three games a week.

However, we should only sack him if we have someone ready immediately. I've seen some people suggest Lallana as caretaker which is just absolutely fucking ludicrous.

[Wsaint]

2 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

It's time up now unfortunately. I really wanted him to succeed, and I expected us to be in a relegation battle anyway, but it's time to roll the dice. And now is the time to do it because we have a nice period before our next game; zero point in doing it afterwards when we have three games a week.

However, we should only sack him if we have someone ready immediately. I've seen some people suggest Lallana as caretaker which is just absolutely fucking ludicrous.

Think I agree with this, was very much wanting it to work after last season, but it's time. We've got to try something different, even if it doesn't work out, this clearly isn't going to end well.

[FarehamSaintJames]

24 minutes ago, LGTL said:

He was 10/1 to be sacked earlier today. That’s now come in to 1/4 on. Hopefully they know something. 

Odds mean absolute jack shit.

He was those kind of odds over a month ago.

A few on social media are saying he’s gone. Somehow I doubt it.

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

The bloke is a grade A cock

 

“I don't know what more I can give the players to make them really believe”

 

“It's been interesting, to say the least, and difficult to deal with so I don't know what, other than stop the game and tell the players how good they are.”

His resignation? 

[Weston Super Saint]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

His resignation? 

That's the only way he will be gone.

Resign and walk away from a £12m contract.

The option to sack him isn't viable because PSR innit.

Not sure he's the type of person to walk away from £12m though so we're stuck with him.

[Badger]

41 minutes ago, bugenhagen said:

It was a joke, I thought it was "clear and obvious" so didn't bother with emotes.

But on a serious note, no manager is ever going to quit and walk away from a hefty comp...

Sadly that is the case.

Just have to question the wisdom of extending his contract. Accept the point that some have previously made that it might possibly been triggered by promotion but really it seems a bloody stupid move and sums up the ineptitude of those running the club. 

[Fabrice29]

Interesting debate whether the club should be run to appease fans or whether the day to day people at the club should be appeased. Think there’s no doubt sacking Martin now would appease fans and make vibes in the stands better but by all accounts the people at the club and training ground quite clearly like the man and his work.

[Weston Super Saint]

1 minute ago, Badger said:

Sadly that is the case.

Just have to question the wisdom of extending his contract. Accept the point that some have previously made that it might possibly been triggered by promotion but really it seems a bloody stupid move and sums up the ineptitude of those running the club. 

It's not ineptitude to give a contract to a Championship manager with a clause stating the money will go up if we get promoted. Completely the opposite and is good business sense.

It would be inept to pay a PL wage to a Championship manager.

[Weston Super Saint]

2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Interesting debate whether the club should be run to appease fans or whether the day to day people at the club should be appeased. Think there’s no doubt sacking Martin now would appease fans and make vibes in the stands better but by all accounts the people at the club and training ground quite clearly like the man and his work.

They 'like' 5 points from 45?

Morons if so.

[Badger]

1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

Interesting debate …..   by all accounts the people at the club and training ground quite clearly like the man and his work.

Do they like the results from his work as well, or is that irrelevant?  

[Pamplemousse]

3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Interesting debate whether the club should be run to appease fans or whether the day to day people at the club should be appeased. Think there’s no doubt sacking Martin now would appease fans and make vibes in the stands better but by all accounts the people at the club and training ground quite clearly like the man and his work.

If they do like him, then they should support him better

 

Our recruitment has been shit and it has been for ages.

[saintant]

4 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Interesting debate whether the club should be run to appease fans or whether the day to day people at the club should be appeased. Think there’s no doubt sacking Martin now would appease fans and make vibes in the stands better but by all accounts the people at the club and training ground quite clearly like the man and his work.

Quite clearly results and performances prove they are deluded - and I care not whether they are players, part of the SR set-up or his fellow coaches.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

4 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Interesting debate whether the club should be run to appease fans or whether the day to day people at the club should be appeased. Think there’s no doubt sacking Martin now would appease fans and make vibes in the stands better but by all accounts the people at the club and training ground quite clearly like the man and his work.

I'm fuckin sure you just post on here to get a reaction. As a supposed Saints fan are you happy to see the club being run like a Carry On film?

[Galway saint]

2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Interesting debate whether the club should be run to appease fans or whether the day to day people at the club should be appeased. Think there’s no doubt sacking Martin now would appease fans and make vibes in the stands better but by all accounts the people at the club and training ground quite clearly like the man and his work.

What’s not to like…

The recruitment has been poor and so the players aren’t great but we are so uncompetitive it’s untrue. We have had teams in the past with ordinary players but I cannot recall another season where we have looked so far out of our depth. 

[GDog07]

The board finally getting rid? The stable is already empty, the horse bolted many games ago.

Allowed us to embarrass our way to 5pts from 15 and then expect to attract someone half decent.

Doesn’t even give the new guy a fighting chance. Just all too f’ing slow to act.

 

[RedArmy]

11 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Interesting debate whether the club should be run to appease fans or whether the day to day people at the club should be appeased. Think there’s no doubt sacking Martin now would appease fans and make vibes in the stands better but by all accounts the people at the club and training ground quite clearly like the man and his work.

Nobody cares what you and your work mates think of him, you can be replaced. 
 

This is the fans club, and we’ve had enough. 

[Fabrice29]

5 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

I'm fuckin sure you just post on here to get a reaction. As a supposed Saints fan are you happy to see the club being run like a Carry On film?

I post on here because I’m paid too and I’m Lucy Pinder, I think. 

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

I post on here because I’m paid too and I’m Lucy Pinder, I think. 

You got that bit right. First time for everything.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

I post on here because I’m paid too and I’m Lucy Pinder, I think. 

Whatever. I don't even think you believe this bollocks you post anymore.

[tdmickey3]

1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

I post on here because I’m paid too and I’m Lucy Pinder, I think. 

You are definitely here as a club plant and have changed your tact because you know something is up.

And you are not Pinder but you are a cunt

[Wade Garrett]

19 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Interesting debate whether the club should be run to appease fans or whether the day to day people at the club should be appeased. Think there’s no doubt sacking Martin now would appease fans and make vibes in the stands better but by all accounts the people at the club and training ground quite clearly like the man and his work.

Fuck off you trolling cunt.

[The Kraken]

4 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

I post on here because I’m paid too and I’m Lucy Pinder, I think. 

You do seem to adore the attention you’re generating of late. If it’s deliberate (and it sure seems to be) then well done you, big 👍 

[bangkoksaint]

45 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Get rid so I’ll actually enjoy going to games.

This……..absolutely this. The season has gone but I am desperate to just enjoy watching us play and compete. Yes winning would be great but for the love of god let’s make ourselves competitive.

[Fabrice29]

5 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

Nobody cares what you and your work mates think of him, you can be replaced. 
 

This is the fans club, and we’ve had enough. 

😂 Other than working for the club or post on here for a reaction is it not just possible that I think the guy has done a good job and that sacking him might be a bit short sighted and not be the immediate answer to bad results? 

[Fabrice29]

5 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

You are definitely here as a club plant and have changed your tact because you know something is up.

And you are not Pinder but you are a cunt

Talking of things that are definite would you like me to drag up the posts from you stating we definitely wouldn’t get promoted last season again? You’re not exactly the greatest of minds fella.

Edited 7 December, 2024 by Fabrice29

[lambtiss]

2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

😂 Other than working for the club or post on here for a reaction is it not just possible that I think the guy has done a good job and that sacking him might be a bit short sighted and not be the immediate answer to bad results? 

Impossible, no. Stupid, certainly. 

[RedArmy]

2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

😂 Other than working for the club or post on here for a reaction is it not just possible that I think the guy has done a good job and that sacking him might be a bit short sighted and not be the immediate answer to bad results? 

No. You’d have to be a mong to think that.