coalman Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 7 minutes ago, trousers said: Ralph coupled with Dragan's cash would have been a success story IMO... #rightmanagerwrongtime Only if he got Dragan's cash without Rasmus's dumbfuckery 8
Wade Garrett Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 2 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said: We never played Norwich when both Farke and Martin were there. Farke joined in the summer of 2017 and Martin left the following January, and they were in the Championship that season. It was Farke’s side at St Mary’s I was watching. As the ridiculous football they played that night is so similar to us now, I assumed it was Farke’s influence on Martin that shaped his philosophy. I suppose there were loads of div 1 sides back in the day playing PepBall . Maybe Guardiola discovered it himself on a rainy night in Scunthorpe.
Turkish Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 16 minutes ago, trousers said: Ralph coupled with Dragan's cash would have been a success story IMO... #rightmanagerwrongtime Ralph has Dragons cash for the August window before he left. We ended up with Larios, Edozie, Bazunu, Caleta-Carr, Maitland-Niles and Mara 1 3
egg Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 Just now, Turkish said: Ralph has Dragons cash for the August window before he left. We ended up with Larios, Edozie, Bazunu, Caleta-Carr, Maitland-Niles and Mara Jeez. That's a real tale of quantity over quality, and hope over proven ability. 1
Turkish Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 6 minutes ago, egg said: Jeez. That's a real tale of quantity over quality, and hope over proven ability. We got Lavia, Bella-Kotchap and Aribo too but really only one of those has proven to be a decent signing. One of nine
hypochondriac Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: We got Lavia, Bella-Kotchap and Aribo too but really only one of those has proven to be a decent signing. One of nine Not sure about that. Aribo has been alright and Lavia was superb business. 1
egg Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: We got Lavia, Bella-Kotchap and Aribo too but really only one of those has proven to be a decent signing. One of nine I'd argue a case for Aribo being a reasonable squad player, and I'm not sure how much of the ABK debacle is down to the player or bad man management. But yep, shocking business and a monumental waste of money. 1
Turkish Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Not sure about that. Aribo has been alright and Lavia was superb business. 2 minutes ago, egg said: I'd argue a case for Aribo being a reasonable squad player, and I'm not sure how much of the ABK debacle is down to the player or bad man management. But yep, shocking business and a monumental waste of money. Yeah Aribos been okay to be fair for £7m. Bella-Kotchap obviously a good player but not been good for us for whatever reason. Overall truly awful business though and January was even worse. Orsic, Tall Paul, Sulemana, Alvarez and Bree 3
egg Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 Just now, Turkish said: Yeah Aribos been okay to be fair for £7m. Bella-Kotchap obviously a good player but not been good for us for whatever reason. Overall truly awful business though and January was even worse. Orsic, Tall Paul, Sulemana, Alvarez and Bree Blimey. Horrific. I feel for Dragan, he's been properly tucked up by people he's put his trust in.
spyinthesky Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 7 minutes ago, Turkish said: Yeah Aribos been okay to be fair for £7m. Bella-Kotchap obviously a good player but not been good for us for whatever reason. Overall truly awful business though and January was even worse. Orsic, Tall Paul, Sulemana, Alvarez and Bree To be fair didnt Bree come to us on a Free or a minimal payment? A decent Championship player who has been relatively value for money compared with the majority of players including other full backs such as Larios and Small who cost upwards of £10m in total and have done absolutely nothing. 2
miserableoldgit Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 8 minutes ago, egg said: Blimey. Horrific. I feel for Dragan, he's been properly tucked up by people he's put his trust in. It makes you wonder who made all the decisions on signings when JW left and never properly replaced.
Oldandtired Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 9 minutes ago, egg said: Blimey. Horrific. I feel for Dragan, he's been properly tucked up by people he's put his trust in. Makes me wonder how he got to be so rich if he demonstrates the same lack of judgement, susceptibility to bullshit and lack of ruthlessness or balls he seems to show at Saints in his other businesses . 3 1
Turkish Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 5 minutes ago, spyinthesky said: To be fair didnt Bree come to us on a Free or a minimal payment? A decent Championship player who has been relatively value for money compared with the majority of players including other full backs such as Larios and Small who cost upwards of £10m in total and have done absolutely nothing. Yeah Bree was cheap maybe even free. Jones mate from Luton. Decent championship player but hardly played for us 26 times in nearly 2 years according to wiki
trousers Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 50 minutes ago, coalman said: Only if he got Dragan's cash without Rasmus's dumbfuckery Goes without saying... 👍 2
trousers Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 59 minutes ago, trousers said: Ralph coupled with Dragan's cash would have been a success story IMO... #rightmanagerwrongtime 41 minutes ago, Turkish said: Ralph has Dragons cash for the August window before he left. We ended up with Larios, Edozie, Bazunu, Caleta-Carr, Maitland-Niles and Mara 52 minutes ago, coalman said: Only if he got Dragan's cash without Rasmus's dumbfuckery Indeed... Ralph + Dragan - Rasmus is the equation I was intimating... 3
saintant Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 25 minutes ago, egg said: Blimey. Horrific. I feel for Dragan, he's been properly tucked up by people he's put his trust in. But he takes no action to rectify the situation. It's as though he enjoys putting his money down the drain. As a successful businessman he comes across as a mug when it comes to the way he allows the football club to be run. 6
Osvaldorama Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 44 minutes ago, Turkish said: Yeah Aribos been okay to be fair for £7m. Bella-Kotchap obviously a good player but not been good for us for whatever reason. Overall truly awful business though and January was even worse. Orsic, Tall Paul, Sulemana, Alvarez and Bree Im not exaggerating at all when I say that every single person in the Southampton hierarchy that was responsible for recruitment in those two windows should be fired directly into the sun 6
Harry_SFC Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 Surely it's time for some sort of reaction from the fans at the Spurs game? 7
Saint Scott Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 (edited) Sports Republic must act now, but we know they won't. The fans need to make their feelings known in a stronger manner, if he isn't gone by the Spurs game. Time to get out the banners, protest and make SMS as uncomfortable as possible for the ownership group and RM. Thanks for Wembley Martin but you are so far out of your depth now Edited 7 December, 2024 by Saint Scott 4
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 3 hours ago, Turkish said: Yeah Aribos been okay to be fair for £7m. Bella-Kotchap obviously a good player but not been good for us for whatever reason. Overall truly awful business though and January was even worse. Orsic, Tall Paul, Sulemana, Alvarez and Bree This is how a good manager handles a player like Bella Kotcha....
Miltonaggro Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 Rumour has it Rasmus and de rock steady crew are at st Mary’s interviewing the unexpectedly available unity candidate they’ve shortlisted:
Harry_SFC Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 1 minute ago, Saint Scott said: Sports Republic must act now, but we know they won't. The fans need to make their feelings known in a stronger manner, if he isn't gone by the Spurs game. Time to get out the banners, protest and make SMS as uncomfortable as possible for the ownership group and RM. Thanks for Wembley Martin but you are so far out of your depth now It feels like we really need someone more ruthless running the show. Yes Martin got us up (just) but all his credit has well and truly gone. As much as Cortese was a twat behind the scenes, he made some very BRAVE decisions that benefitted us massively. SR are a laughing stock right now. 2
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said: It feels like we really need someone more ruthless running the show. Yes Martin got us up (just) but all his credit has well and truly gone. As much as Cortese was a twat behind the scenes, he made some very BRAVE decisions that benefitted us massively. SR are a laughing stock right now. Please don't use the word 'brave', it triggers me. Edited 7 December, 2024 by Sergei Gotsmanov
Hemp Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 For the love of god this just needs ending now. Sack him tonight please. What are they waiting for, nothing will change till he is gone. We are an absolute joke of a football club at the moment, how can they not see what literally everybody else can. This was all so avoidable SR, its on you🤷 5
Harry_SFC Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 (edited) Apparently there's a bit of money to spend in January. How about we don't sign anyone and sack Martin? Given we are down - I'd imagine most of the fans would take that scenario. Edited 7 December, 2024 by Harry_SFC 12
saintant Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 Please just get out of our club and take your vanity project somewhere else. We've had enough of you now. 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 There’s absolutely no doubt he’s the worst top flight manager in anyone alive lifetime. That’s some fucking statement when we’ve had the likes of Jones, Branfoot, Wigley, Grey & Pelligrino. 11
spyinthesky Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 I have to say that I am generally against sacking a Manager, unless he has lost the Dressing Room, which it seems he hasnt, at the moment. However this awful style of play, allied to some woeful expenditure on players, is really causing some significant issues with results and fans feel good factor (which is basically below zero at the moment) The only aim, from most of us, is to get more points than the pathetic low number Derby achieved to herald their return to the lower levels. Russell Martin said that he had to sort out the mess the previous Managers left him and, to be fair he made a decent stab at it in the Championship. Heaven knows what shit show Martin's replacement will have to deal with next season.
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 2 minutes ago, spyinthesky said: Heaven knows what shit show Martin's replacement will have to deal with next season. 1
CB Fry Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 3 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: There’s absolutely no doubt he’s the worst top flight manager in anyone alive lifetime. That’s some fucking statement when we’ve had the likes of Jones, Branfoot, Wigley, Grey & Pelligrino. Some genius will be along in a minute to pretend that no manager alive or dead from Pep to Ferguson in his peak could do any better with this squad than one win and 5 points from 15 games. Russell Martin is the absolute best available manager on the planet. 2 3
Suhari Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 Russell: go away. Leave. We don't want or like you anymore. 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 He’s blaming the players again. Martin: “We pressed high and well. It was a fairly even game in terms of that but we need a bit more belief and conviction. 1
Lighthouse Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 We’re not going to sack him now. We’re going to spend £15m on a cultured, ball playing, 5’6" CB in January, THEN sack Martin on February 12th and replace him with a lower league long ball merchant. It’s the sport republic way. 1
Harry_SFC Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 He just blamed the fans for the goal, saying we made Lumley go long and give the ball away 😂 also claimed the pitch got too dry and impacted how we pass the ball. Jesus fucking Christ. 10
tdmickey3 Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said: He just blamed the fans for the goal, saying we made Lumley go long and give the ball away 😂 also claimed the pitch got too dry and impacted how we pass the ball. Jesus fucking Christ. Hahahaha it was pissing down for a lot of it
Lord Duckhunter Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 2 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: He just blamed the fans for the goal, saying we made Lumley go long and give the ball away 😂 Shame THB listened to Lego instead of the fans. Had he hoofed it away, we wouldn’t have given the goal away…. 2
saintant Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 4 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: He just blamed the fans for the goal, saying we made Lumley go long and give the ball away 😂 also claimed the pitch got too dry and impacted how we pass the ball. Jesus fucking Christ. Clutching at more straws than a scarecrow having a hand shandy. 3
Andrew Watson Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 No points,no goals and no shots on target again. We are way beyond laughing stock,how much longer have the fans got to put up with Martin and the owners ? The silence is deafening from the club. 4
saintant Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 1 minute ago, Barsiem said: What an arrogant pr*ck.... He's clearly getting rattled. How dare the fans express disapproval at Lumley kicking long - can't they see all the success we have from playing it short to feet from the back? Arrogance personified but he's beginning to show more and more signs that he knows he's way out of his depth. He just can't help himself because of his ego. 5
Harry_SFC Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 Just now, saintant said: He's clearly getting rattled. How dare the fans express disapproval at Lumley kicking long - can't they see all the success we have from playing it short to feet from the back? Arrogance personified but he's beginning to show more and more signs that he knows he's way out of his depth. He just can't help himself because of his ego. Yep - absolutely no need to bring the fans into it but he can't help himself. Just does it to make himself feel better. Absolute joker. 4
Lord Duckhunter Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 The bloke is a grade A cock “I don't know what more I can give the players to make them really believe” “It's been interesting, to say the least, and difficult to deal with so I don't know what, other than stop the game and tell the players how good they are.” 1
Greenridge Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 24 minutes ago, saintant said: He's clearly getting rattled. How dare the fans express disapproval at Lumley kicking long - can't they see all the success we have from playing it short to feet from the back? Arrogance personified but he's beginning to show more and more signs that he knows he's way out of his depth. He just can't help himself because of his ego. He’s been increasingly fractious in recent weeks when pressed on tactics and results. The dynamic is changing in that respect and there’s no doubt he’s feeling the pressure. 1
Saint_clark Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 31 minutes ago, Barsiem said: What an arrogant pr*ck.... This for me more than anything else is what will get him sacked. His attitude is disgusting. 1
Nieldy Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 He is really winding me up now.Im usually a mild mannered person but he so far up his own backside.He doesn't care about the club and the fans.Its all about himself and thinks he is bigger than the club, believing all the hype he hears off Pep and other managers about his style of football.Thinks he should be at a bigger club.Supported saints since early 80s and he is top of my list of the most disliked manager and we have had a few bad managers.Rant over where are my blood pressure tablets. 1
bugenhagen Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 5 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: The bloke is a grade A cock “I don't know what more I can give the players to make them really believe” “It's been interesting, to say the least, and difficult to deal with so I don't know what, other than stop the game and tell the players how good they are.” Have some sympathy with the man... No other manager has had to continously make interviews and pressers over such a long and poor period. To come up with shit to say, every week after the same horrible mistakes and toothless displays, must take its toll. He is very brave. Out of his league, out of depht, out of ideas - he takes a beating every week and has to talk about it...
sfc4prem Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 56 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: He’s blaming the players again. Martin: “We pressed high and well. It was a fairly even game in terms of that but we need a bit more belief and conviction. 'Belief'... so vague, so fucking hard to evidence. Very easy for Russell to talk about. Cop out.
Behind Enemy Lines Posted 7 December, 2024 Posted 7 December, 2024 22 hours ago, Turkish said: "I played in teams who were dominant with the ball and loved it. I also played in teams who didn't have much of the ball and hated it. My style is probably shaped by that and the teams I've enjoyed watching play football like Barcelona, Manchester City and Spain. I've tried to replicate that at the level I'm at and with the players I've had. If I didn't do that, I probably wouldn't have gone into coaching or management." —Martin on his style of play, 2021.[76] This will be a similar quote in the year 2031. Martin, Manager of Shirley Boys Under 15 Tryo League. No wins since 2024, but brave, and often wins the possession stats. Assistant, Jack Stephens unavailable for comment as he was serving a pitch side ban since pulling the hair of an opposition kids dad running the line two games ago.
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