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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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1 hour ago, Oldandtired said:


I can see why he’s your inspiration. 
 

Same level of nonsense.

Anyone is inspirational if you’re paid good money to defend them by arguing with supporters. Not the first time the club has done it either. 

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LGTL

LGTL

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2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Shall we have a look at that quote in full context so at least when people get angry about it, they do it knowing the point he was making. 

 

Does their run of one win in nine matches represent an opportunity?

RM: I think every game is an opportunity. Every game is one we have to try and win because of the position we're in.

We're not here to try and grind results out or try and grab a draw away from home because it's not enough for us. We need to try and win games and quickly.

Every game presents opportunity, however that looks. It's an opportunity for us to win a game of football and put in a performance that we are happy with.

I know the point he was making and he’s still a massive cunt. 

Your PR isn’t working, time to head back to base and rethink your strategy. 

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lambtiss

lambtiss

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5 hours ago, Sergei Gotsmanov said:

Unless we change managers we are doomed, in fact it is probably too late! Unfortunately, having made a mess of the Nathan Jones appointment Ankerson is reluctant to lose face on admitting that his new prodigy, while having many positives is fundamentally flawed. 

The problem is that when faced with appointing a new manager Ankersen will never go down the 'safe pair' of hands route and go for a wily old manager he will insist on gambling to unearth some new pioneering manager to raise his own profile.

Well, he is a self pronounced genius who knows better than anyone else.

As he said, 

"if it ain't broke, break it'

And he has been true to his word. 

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Badger

Badger

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4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

“We’re not here to try and grind out results”

Todays pony from the  deluded twat. 

What an arrogant cock. 

Wasn’t it Semmens who said results didn’t matter ?

Thought we’d got over that sort of bollocks when he left but Rasmus &Co have taken it to another level. 
 

It seems the Semmens philosophy - and the cretins in charge do like a philosophy- is flourishing whilst results fall apart. 

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lambtiss

lambtiss

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2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

I know you all hate the bloke and that won’t stop but if you’re at the stage of life where someone saying they want to win a game of football is a load of bollocks then you might need to look inwards. 

Unsurprisingly you are being simplistic, we don't all hate Martin. We hate being at the bottom of the league, making the same mistakes week in, week out, with Martin unable and seemingly unwilling to fix it. 

 

Still, really glad that he's said he is enjoying this shitshow. 

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Badger

Badger

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4 hours ago, bpsaint said:

How the fuck is this charlatan still here? Honestly!

Just watching Sky Sports news as they report on the West Ham board having a very public meeting to discuss their managers future with the agreement if they lost to Wolves and he’s gone, with they club currently sat in 14th. There’s Sports Republic however, with their heads in the sand blindly allowing this shit show to continue as we sit rock bottom, already cut adrift with things only to get worse.

Despite our predicament I wouldn’t want us to run our club publicly, like a soap opera. Leave that to West Ham.

Just wish I could be a bit more confident that things were being discussed “behind closed doors”. 

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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Still, when he gives up coaching, Martin has his career in Hot Chip (formerly The Legoheads) to fall back on.

Passed back
Passed back
Passed back, I'll give you passed back
Passed back
Passed back
Passed back, I'll give you passed back

Over and over and over and over and over
Like a player coached out of natural talent
The grind of repetition really gets to you
Error and error and error and error and error
The fear in repetition really keeps you in step
And when I feel this way I really feel like I'm Pep

Passed back
Passed back
Passed back, I'll give you passed back
Passed back
Passed back
Passed back, I'll give you passed back

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Greenridge

Greenridge

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43 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said:

How exactly did we go "toe to toe" with Chelsea?? The man is utterly deluded. We were properly schooled and if it was for slightly better finishing we would have lost by 10+

It was like watching a cat playing with a mouse. 

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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5 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Shall we have a look at that quote in full context so at least when people get angry about it, they do it knowing the point he was making. 

 

Does their run of one win in nine matches represent an opportunity?

RM: I think every game is an opportunity. Every game is one we have to try and win because of the position we're in.

We're not here to try and grind results out or try and grab a draw away from home because it's not enough for us. We need to try and win games and quickly.

Every game presents opportunity, however that looks. It's an opportunity for us to win a game of football and put in a performance that we are happy with.

In "full context" it reads like he is an arrogant, deluded cunt.

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Turkish

Turkish

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"I played in teams who were dominant with the ball and loved it. I also played in teams who didn't have much of the ball and hated it. My style is probably shaped by that and the teams I've enjoyed watching play football like Barcelona, Manchester City and Spain. I've tried to replicate that at the level I'm at and with the players I've had. If I didn't do that, I probably wouldn't have gone into coaching or management."

—Martin on his style of play, 2021.[76]
 
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Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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47 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said:

How exactly did we go "toe to toe" with Chelsea?? The man is utterly deluded. We were properly schooled and if it was for slightly better finishing we would have lost by 10+

Toe to toe in the same way as Bigfoot and Wayne fucking Sleep!

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Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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4 minutes ago, Greenridge said:

It was like watching a cat playing with a mouse. 

Indeed. Here's my exchange with my Chelsea supporting mate. Sums it up pretty well. 

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Osvaldorama

Osvaldorama

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Martin is very very good at trying to subtley deflect the blame in the media.


He’s a master of pretending to be accountable, whilst redirecting the blame elsewhere. It’s clear he’s trying to paint a picture in the media that he is a genius and then players are letting him down. 
 

 

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StrangelyBrown

StrangelyBrown

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9 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Martin is very very good at trying to subtley deflect the blame in the media.


He’s a master of pretending to be accountable, whilst redirecting the blame elsewhere. It’s clear he’s trying to paint a picture in the media that he is a genius and then players are letting him down. 
 

 

But he is a genius... he has discovered that if we "try to win" we will be ahead of everyone else who apparently are simply going through the motions. And he's so brave to be the first to try this revolutionary approach.

Saint in Paradise

Saint in Paradise

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I have just seen this in The Echo  "SAINTS defender Taylor Harwood-Bellis launched a passionate defence

of Russell Martin's playstyle, insisting: "It's what we want as footballers."

I know RM's dwindling numbers of fan boys on here will lap that up but I DON"T in fact I find it very provocative

and indeed dangerous*.

*( I nearly smashed my computer monitor after only reading the first couple of lines, I couldn't stomach

going further )

I am very skeptical about how many truly believe that and also how many will stay after the upcoming relegation

and so stay and "play" such crap next season. I suspect THB will be one of the first to eff off quickly followed by

lots of others.

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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9 minutes ago, Saint in Paradise said:

I have just seen this in The Echo  "SAINTS defender Taylor Harwood-Bellis launched a passionate defence

of Russell Martin's playstyle, insisting: "It's what we want as footballers."

I know RM's dwindling numbers of fan boys on here will lap that up but I DON"T in fact I find it very provocative

and indeed dangerous*.

*( I nearly smashed my computer monitor after only reading the first couple of lines, I couldn't stomach

going further )

I am very skeptical about how many truly believe that and also how many will stay after the upcoming relegation

and so stay and "play" such crap next season. I suspect THB will be one of the first to eff off quickly followed by

lots of others.

That makes sense of his comments on his England debut.

"Other kids dream of representing their country. I'm honoured too. Even though it's not as good as being part of the least successful club in league history. Being cut adrift at the bottom of the table, as quickly as possible, is where my true passion lies. It's what we want as footballers."

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SambaMaverick

SambaMaverick

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3 hours ago, Saint in Paradise said:

I have just seen this in The Echo  "SAINTS defender Taylor Harwood-Bellis launched a passionate defence

of Russell Martin's playstyle, insisting: "It's what we want as footballers."

I know RM's dwindling numbers of fan boys on here will lap that up but I DON"T in fact I find it very provocative

and indeed dangerous*.

*( I nearly smashed my computer monitor after only reading the first couple of lines, I couldn't stomach

going further )

I am very skeptical about how many truly believe that and also how many will stay after the upcoming relegation

and so stay and "play" such crap next season. I suspect THB will be one of the first to eff off quickly followed by

lots of others.

I just don't know where the players get the idea that anyone gives a fuck if they like it - at least while we aren't getting results.

They aren't paid to have fun and lose, they are paid to win games of football - in part by us, the fans. They should be doing that, by hook or by crook.

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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11 hours ago, Turkish said:

 

"I played in teams who were dominant with the ball and loved it. I also played in teams who didn't have much of the ball and hated it. My style is probably shaped by that and the teams I've enjoyed watching play football like Barcelona, Manchester City and Spain. I've tried to replicate that at the level I'm at and with the players I've had. If I didn't do that, I probably wouldn't have gone into coaching or management."

—Martin on his style of play, 2021.[76]
 

I actually remember watching us beat Farke’s Norwich in a midweek game at St Mary’s where they played suicide footbal for the whole game.  I recall how ridiculous I thought it was at the time.

We obviously won and I think Martin was playing.  To take that ineffectual shite into his management career because he enjoyed it (it wasn’t successful) is plain fucking stupid.

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ant

ant

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"It's not just about the results" applies to under 9s football, not the top end of the game - where 'elite' athletes (allegedly) go toe to toe.

If we humour for a second that it's not about getting points on the board, then our matches must surely be judged as entertainment rather than sport.

And given my first thought as we lined up for the second half against Chelsea was "fucking hell, is there really 45+ more minutes of this?"

Well...

 

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Midfield_General

Midfield_General

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12 hours ago, Turkish said:

 

"I played in teams who were dominant with the ball and loved it. I also played in teams who didn't have much of the ball and hated it."

—Martin on his style of play, 2021.[76]
 

Bearing in mind he only had significant playing spells for Wycombe, Peterborough, Norwich and Scotland, presumably he can only be talking about Norwich as this team who were dominant with the ball? 

They were relegated twice while he was playing for them, much of which was as captain. So that’s apparently the experience he ‘loved’. 

He’s a loser. It’s baked into his DNA. 

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Galway saint

Galway saint

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I’m all for not winning football matches and with 2 wins in 28 or so in the PL we are adept at that but I would like to know from the club what the plan is for the next few seasons. It’s great to be a part of this footballing experiment but I’d like to win a game or two along the way. 

I hear a lot about the players liking this style of football and why wouldn’t they ? It’s a style which likely means you will have been part of one of the worst sides in PL history and who wouldn’t want that on their CV.

No doubt we will sell all our decent players at the end of the season and buy Patrick Bamford to join Ross on the injury list ( we miss his goals) so that’s  something to look forward to and Baz will be back so that’s another positive.

However I can’t help feeling that a couple more wins this season would give us some real momentum for the boys to take into next season, so hopefully Russ and the board recognise it’s not all about playing great football, making defensive gaffs and not scoring many goals - us fans do like the odd win.

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StrangelyBrown

StrangelyBrown

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8 hours ago, SambaMaverick said:

I just don't know where the players get the idea that anyone gives a fuck if they like it - at least while we aren't getting results.

They aren't paid to have fun and lose, they are paid to win games of football - in part by us, the fans. They should be doing that, by hook or by crook.

It sickens me that the players seem unaware that it isnt about whether they enjoy it but whether paying punters enjoy it?

We don't exist for them - they exist for us.

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Mr X

Mr X

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Martin must think he's struck gold with us, owners that literally don't care about the results on the pitch! don't care about communicating to the fanbase and he's allowed free reign both in training and to the media add in the new contract and pinder it's a win win 

The man's living the dream!.... At our expense! 😂

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Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

I actually remember watching us beat Farke’s Norwich in a midweek game at St Mary’s where they played suicide footbal for the whole game.  I recall how ridiculous I thought it was at the time.

We obviously won and I think Martin was playing.  To take that ineffectual shite into his management career because he enjoyed it (it wasn’t successful) is plain fucking stupid.

We never played Norwich when both Farke and Martin were there. Farke joined in the summer of 2017 and Martin left the following January, and they were in the Championship that season.

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Baird of the land

Baird of the land

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29 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Bearing in mind he only had significant playing spells for Wycombe, Peterborough, Norwich and Scotland, presumably he can only be talking about Norwich as this team who were dominant with the ball? 

They were relegated twice while he was playing for them, much of which was as captain. So that’s apparently the experience he ‘loved’. 

He’s a loser. It’s baked into his DNA. 

Says something about him that he didn't care about winning at all even as a player. Just as long as they had plenty of the ball, losing was great.

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coalman

coalman

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32 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Bearing in mind he only had significant playing spells for Wycombe, Peterborough, Norwich and Scotland, presumably he can only be talking about Norwich as this team who were dominant with the ball? 

They were relegated twice while he was playing for them, much of which was as captain. So that’s apparently the experience he ‘loved’. 

He’s a loser. It’s baked into his DNA. 

And now he's baking that mentality into our fucking club.

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Oldandtired

Oldandtired

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14 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I bet he'll love this from Emery:

"I appreciate a lot some teams and young coaches and how they are being brave and showing different ways. One of them is Russell Martin."

Cue losing streak for Villa

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coalman

coalman

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15 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I bet he'll love this from Emery:

"I appreciate a lot some teams and young coaches and how they are being brave and showing different ways. One of them is Russell Martin."

Translation: "It's great that there are teams playing losing football because it makes my job easier."

I'm not sure Emery was being complimentary by saying that. He just needed something positive sounding yet ambiguous.

 

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Jack

Jack

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43 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I bet he'll love this from Emery:

"I appreciate a lot some teams and young coaches and how they are being brave and showing different ways. One of them is Russell Martin."

It’s become part of the blueprint of beating us. Blow smoke up the manager’s arse in the hope he doubles down on the lunatic tactics, gifts them a couple of goals, and walk away with three easy points. 
 

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Midfield_General

Midfield_General

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9 minutes ago, Jack said:

It’s become part of the blueprint of beating us. Blow smoke up the manager’s arse in the hope he doubles down on the lunatic tactics, gifts them a couple of goals, and walk away with three easy points. 
 

Opposing managers coming out with these identikit statements each week before we obligingly let them beat us without breaking sweat is just another part of the running joke that he has turned us into this season. 

That's what really hurts to be honest. I can take losing football matches every week, but he's turned us into a fucking punchline, and I can't forgive him for that. 

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stknowle

stknowle

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19 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Shall we have a look at that quote in full context so at least when people get angry about it, they do it knowing the point he was making. 

 

Does their run of one win in nine matches represent an opportunity?

RM: I think every game is an opportunity. Every game is one we have to try and win because of the position we're in.

We're not here to try and grind results out or try and grab a draw away from home because it's not enough for us. We need to try and win games and quickly.

Every game presents opportunity, however that looks. It's an opportunity for us to win a game of football and put in a performance that we are happy with.

All that tells me is he’s going to try to win by playing in the same fucking way that’s gifted 9 goals to opponents through ridiculous unnecessary errors and lost us 11 out of 14 games this season. 

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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 I have spent nearly 6 decades being used to watching Saints play as the perennial under dogs, battling away against the odds, surviving by the skin of our teeth, but on occasion smashing one of the "Big Boys". Those teams didn't have superstars, ( well other than the obvious one ), but they played together, fought for each other, and left the fans proud of their efforts even if they lost more often than they won.

 Then for a while we had Adkins, Pochetinno, and Koeman and we were treated to some of the best and most exciting times as fans, even dreaming of joining the ranks of those Big Boys.

 How things have changed. Now I no longer have any illusions over what the result of our next match will be, and any joy I had in watching Saints has been completely drained away. Now I watch them to see just how much worse things can get, like some truly appalling yet somehow unavoidable bad TV comedy show, or those slow motion videos of crash tests.

 I can never stop supporting my team, but by God these muppets, ( SR and RM ), are making each match a test of my patience.

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coalman

coalman

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22 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said:

Headline in this mornings newspaper. Sound familiar? I wonder where he got this idea from?20241207_113901.thumb.jpg.299c1294054712767cca63977c3badec.jpg

He's got to play us next weekend which will buy him some time to turn things around and play his team into form.

SaintsBarry74

SaintsBarry74

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2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

I bet he'll love this from Emery:

"I appreciate a lot some teams and young coaches and how they are being brave and showing different ways. One of them is Russell Martin."

The patronising continues, at this point I doubt anyone is falling for that nonsense other than RM.

What is it now Pep (I bet he regrets those comments), Arne Slot, Madueke, Emery?

saintant

saintant

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2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

I bet he'll love this from Emery:

"I appreciate a lot some teams and young coaches and how they are being brave and showing different ways. One of them is Russell Martin."

Another one blowing smoke up his arse so he thinks he's something special and will never change. These oppo managers aren't mugs.

saintant

saintant

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26 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

 I have spent nearly 6 decades being used to watching Saints play as the perennial under dogs, battling away against the odds, surviving by the skin of our teeth, but on occasion smashing one of the "Big Boys". Those teams didn't have superstars, ( well other than the obvious one ), but they played together, fought for each other, and left the fans proud of their efforts even if they lost more often than they won.

 Then for a while we had Adkins, Pochetinno, and Koeman and we were treated to some of the best and most exciting times as fans, even dreaming of joining the ranks of those Big Boys.

 How things have changed. Now I no longer have any illusions over what the result of our next match will be, and any joy I had in watching Saints has been completely drained away. Now I watch them to see just how much worse things can get, like some truly appalling yet somehow unavoidable bad TV comedy show, or those slow motion videos of crash tests.

 I can never stop supporting my team, but by God these muppets, ( SR and RM ), are making each match a test of my patience.

You missed out Ralph. It ended badly for him but he had some decent seasons and we played some very good football under him. Ok, he's got the two 9-0 matches to his name but I enjoyed lots of games when he was our manager. I'd take him over the current clown that's for sure.

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trousers

trousers

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8 minutes ago, saintant said:

You missed out Ralph. It ended badly for him but he had some decent seasons and we played some very good football under him. Ok, he's got the two 9-0 matches to his name but I enjoyed lots of games when he was our manager. I'd take him over the current clown that's for sure.

Ralph coupled with Dragan's cash would have been a success story IMO...

#rightmanagerwrongtime

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