Russell Martin

[Football Special]

10 minutes ago, Badger said:

I felt genuinely sorry and embarrassed for Nathan Jones. He was clearly out of his depth and struggling with it. For that reason I was reluctant to join the abuse towards him in the stadium.

Martin on the other hand has in my view enjoyed a charmed life at Saints, on the back of more articulate interviews and promotion. But he has brought the failures on himself with style of play, and deserves all the abuse coming his way for his refusal to adapt. 
 

Rasmus also - on par with Lowe when it comes to deserving the flak. Just a shame we don’t have the fan base to deliver it nowadays. 

Have to agree with you, had small itk info and Saints/ sports Republic really persued Nathan Jones at Luton and made it clear to him and the Luton board he was our man and we were prepared to pay up his contract to get him, he wasn't convinced about joining us, Luton were quite pleased to make some ££££ out of the deal. 

[saintant]

12 minutes ago, Badger said:

I felt genuinely sorry and embarrassed for Nathan Jones. He was clearly out of his depth and struggling with it. For that reason I was reluctant to join the abuse towards him in the stadium.

Martin on the other hand has in my view enjoyed a charmed life at Saints, on the back of more articulate interviews and promotion. But he has brought the failures on himself with style of play, and deserves all the abuse coming his way for his refusal to adapt. 
 

Rasmus also - on par with Lowe when it comes to deserving the flak. Just a shame we don’t have the fan base to deliver it nowadays. 

Let me know when he conducts an articulate interview cos I've not heard one yet.

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, LGTL said:

Yep. He also applauded the fans sarcastically when McCarthy knocked it out of play. He really is a bellend. 

I still think he's had an easy time of it at St Mary's, no Martin out chants, or Russell Martin your football is shit, surely just a matter of time though. 

I remember his having verbals with fans a few times last season, might have been Rotherham home someone in Itchen Centre let him know what they thought and Martin allowed himself to get drawn into a row, sensitive to be criticism aka negative energy that he assumes relate to scar tissue before he joined 

[Harry_SFC]

2 minutes ago, Football Special said:

I still think he's had an easy time of it at St Mary's, no Martin out chants, or Russell Martin your football is shit, surely just a matter of time though. 

I remember his having verbals with fans a few times last season, might have been Rotherham home someone in Itchen Centre let him know what they thought and Martin allowed himself to get drawn into a row, sensitive to be criticism aka negative energy that he assumes relate to scar tissue before he joined 

Yes he is an incredibly sensitive/insecure soul.

[OttawaSaint]

1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

He also had another pop at the fans. Saying we had to defend for 6 mins after whacking a long ball that everyone cheered. He’s such a classless arrogant twat. His record is there for all to see, how on Earth he can’t be humble with that record is unbelievable…

What a petty little penis he is. Cherry picking that one instance while ignoring how his shitty, boring, pointless tactics have cost us a shed load of points this season and last. 

He needs to have been fired months ago.

[Turkish]

30 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Honestly think it's more down to financial consequences more than anything why Martin isn't sacked, I'd guess we would be looking at a decent payout + new manager salary which when we were already at the psr limit before the season began means the board are hamstrung.

Didn’t they estimate £13m with pay offs, signing on fees etc. we must be on our arses financially as I don’t remember a manager surviving a worse start than this. One was sacked today who has been doing considerably better and has a better pedigree too. Even Sheffield United were one point better off than us at the same stage last season 

[beatlesaint]

I couldn’t face going today so watched on Sky. I’m no fan of Carragher but he was absolutely right in what he said about us, and that is basically there are times when you have to be sensible and knock the ball long to get it away from trouble. He went on to say “that doesn’t make Southampton a long ball team all of a sudden” 

If only RM would understand that, it baffles me that as a central defender he still refuses to acknowledge it…..and to take a pop at fans…..unbelievable 

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said:

Weren’t you pissed off all last season too? And pre season you spent pissed off because you had convinced yourself you wouldn’t be able to get into the ground? With all due respect nobody should take you seriously. 

Eh? I guess English is not your first language.

[Badger]

23 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

What a petty little penis he is. Cherry picking that one instance while ignoring how his shitty, boring, pointless tactics have cost us a shed load of points this season and last. 

He needs to have been fired months ago.

He's escaped the abuse and wrath of the fans to date. A little bit of booing after a poor performance at home to Rotherham last season, and a few cheers when McCartthy 'goes long'., then he gets prickly in interviews. Compare that to Jones who was subject to 'Nathan Jones, your football is shit' after about four games. 

Agree with the second part, should have gone after any of our earlier failings, Leicester, Bournemouth, Wolves. 

Edited 24 November, 2024 by Badger

[ally_uk]

Why we didn't get rid of him during  international break is beyond me...

- Style of football is shit

- Tactics are crap 

I'm bored to tears watching Saints currently..... 

[saintant]

3 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Why we didn't get rid of him during  international break is beyond me...

- Style of football is shit

- Tactics are crap 

I'm bored to tears watching Saints currently..... 

Yeah...the first international break.

[EssEffCee]

Brighton needs to be the match where those of us going make our feelings known inside the ground. His comments and actions at the game today are a whole new level of arrogance which says a lot in itself.

[Football Special]

10 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

Brighton needs to be the match where those of us going make our feelings known inside the ground. His comments and actions at the game today are a whole new level of arrogance which says a lot in itself.

Has anyone got a clip of his post match interview they can post on here? Travelling back from the game everyone seemed to be moaning about his tactics, think as a fanbase we're reluctant to get into a toxic manager out campaign having gone through those before, we've all been hoping something will turn it around and I do thank him for that day at Wembley in May. But if he wants to start getting sarcy about ironically cheering then fuck it let's show him how disliked he is now. Brighton will hurt him as well back in his home town 

[Football Special]

Also, any compliments from the Liverpool manager yet? 

[Morse]

There are many things I don't understand. One of those things is why SR extended RM's contract in the summer. Promoted via the backdoor so to speak, unproven in the top flight and little chance of a better offer from another club! Why tie the club to someone we might want to off load if we're struggling?

[Turkish]

10 minutes ago, Morse said:

There are many things I don't understand. One of those things is why SR extended RM's contract in the summer. Promoted via the backdoor so to speak, unproven in the top flight and little chance of a better offer from another club! Why tie the club to someone we might want to off load if we're struggling?

He’s such a genius that only Bochum in the bundesliga have made a worse start to us out of all 4 leagues in England and every other league in Europe 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Wade Garrett]

No way in the world should he be in charge for the Brighton game.

Time for the circus that are running the club to do something right for a change.

[Gloucester Saint]

4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

He’s such a genius that only Bochum in the bundesliga have made a worse start to us out of all 4 leagues in England and every other league in Europe 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Rasmus is preparing a compensation package to the Bochum board of directors as I type.

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Rasmus is preparing a compensation package to the Bochum board of directors as I type.

Snap him up, he’s failed there which means he’s guaranteed to succeed with us 

[Saint Gifford]

I would love to know why the fuck we haven’t picked up the phone to Mark Robins.

 

[Harry_SFC]

1 minute ago, Saint Gifford said:

I would love to know why the fuck we haven’t picked up the phone to Mark Robins.

 

Russ won't be sacked but if he was we'd basically be making an appointment with the Championship in mind next season - different from last time we were in the prem as we very much still had a chance then. 

[CB Fry]

Basically mission accomplished for the worst owners in football and the likely the worst manager in top flight history.

10 defeats in 12. Relegation in the bag before the advert calendars are opened.

Still, chopping and changing never works so well done the club on all that wonderful continuity and stability. It's absolutely paying dividends and no mistake.

[Patrick Bateman]

5 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Basically mission accomplished for the worst owners in football and the likely the worst manager in top flight history.

10 defeats in 12. Relegation in the bag before the advert calendars are opened.

Still, chopping and changing never works so well done the club on all that wonderful continuity and stability. It's absolutely paying dividends and no mistake.

This.  

The leadership of the club is appalling.

The staff/player recruitment is appalling.

The lack of action to remove the worst manager we've had is appalling.

Fking wake up Saints! 

 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, EssEffCee said:

Brighton needs to be the match where those of us going make our feelings known inside the ground. His comments and actions at the game today are a whole new level of arrogance which says a lot in itself.

He will hate that being a Brighton lad and all.

Bring it on I say, he is no more likely to change or become self-aware than Branfoot was 30 years ago. Both stuck in ‘their way’. 

Once a manager decides to criticise/sneer at the fanbase as he is doing, there is only ever one winner. He can be as friendly with Rasmus as he wants, and Ankerson is very much in the fans firing lines now as the Blackmore BBC piece last week underlined as well, but it counts for shit when you are losing games at that rate. Even worse is the goals conceded, approaching 2 a game even at the level below, and it’s approaching 3 this year. Which when your defence has THB, JB and KWP is criminal at that level last year so being back in the top flight is not the outlier.

He is unable to organise and coach the basics and the players don’t look fit.

Edited 24 November, 2024 by Gloucester Saint

[SaintsBarry74]

7 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

Leicester sack Steve Cooper, maybe we can convince them to pay some money for Martin.

Leicester fans seem to really rate Martin.

Edited 24 November, 2024 by SaintsBarry74

[Mr X]

The really worrying thing is that in Russell Martin and sports republics head we are absolutely fantastic as we nearly beat the league leaders instead of our suicidal tactics and mistakes cost us three goals and we have chucked yet more points away! Yesterday would have just cemented their views that we are "heading in the right direction" and that Martin is our man 😞

[Badger]

9 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

He will hate that being a Brighton lad and all.

Bring it on I say, he is no more likely to change or become self-aware than Branfoot was 30 years ago. Both stuck in ‘their way’

 

On the contrary, he’ll revel in being the centre of attention, especially if it brings a bit more publicity to hype the ‘brand’. 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, Badger said:

On the contrary, he’ll revel in being the centre of attention, especially if it brings a bit more publicity to hype the ‘brand’. 

Probably so, although ‘Russell Martin you’re a wanker’ and ‘you’re football is shit’ from the away end won’t be what he had in mind and for his family and friends in the stadium to hear. 

[Badger]

Just now, Gloucester Saint said:

Probably so, although ‘Russell Martin you’re a wanker’ and ‘you’re football is shit’ from the away end won’t be what he had in mind and for his family and friends in the stadium to hear. 

True, but are you relying on our travelling support to provide that ? Probably a fair proportion of ‘noddy support’ in our allocation. 

[Gloucester Saint]

11 minutes ago, Badger said:

True, but are you relying on our travelling support to provide that ? Probably a fair proportion of ‘noddy support’ in our allocation. 

Not much other option, and comes down to how much they want to save the club. Did my stint with Branfoot and later on Rupert Lowe x2. It doesn’t need to be all 3000 doing it, but one third would quite audible after the bursts of noise from Brighton in the aftermath of their goals has died down. 

[Sheaf Saint]

Did anyone else clock the smug look he gave when, during his MOTD interview, he arrogantly dismissed the idea that the first goal yesterday encapsulated our season?

The answer you're looking for Russ is yes, it absolutely does. Because literally anybody with any understanding of football can see that it does, and the only person that can't is you.

Until recently, I was in the "don't dislike the bloke and want him to succeed" camp, but now I'm firmly in the "I despise this prick and want him out of our club immediately" category.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Did anyone else clock the smug look he gave when, during his MOTD interview, he arrogantly dismissed the idea that the first goal yesterday encapsulated our season?

The answer you're looking for Russ is yes, it absolutely does. Because literally anybody with any understanding of football can see that it does, and the only person that can't is you.

Until recently, I was in the "don't dislike the bloke and want him to succeed" camp, but now I'm firmly in the "I despise this prick and want him out of our club immediately" category.

Good, good. The media can increasingly see, the fans have finally cottoned on in numbers, just the owners and I reckon that’s down to finances and first choice replacements (or any frankly with a pulse) declining the poison chalice. 

Russ is a popular as a fart in a spacesuit. Once the fans protests get going from some clear signs yesterday, the players will quickly follow. 

[Dman]

9 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Good, good. The media can increasingly see, the fans have finally cottoned on in numbers, just the owners and I reckon that’s down to finances and first choice replacements (or any frankly with a pulse) declining the poison chalice. 

Russ is a popular as a fart in a spacesuit. Once the fans protests get going from some clear signs yesterday, the players will quickly follow. 

If hes as hughly rated as the club keep pumping out to the media, he wont be out of work long and thus wouldn't cost us much to sack him. 

The problem is, people will see that he's all fart no shit - I can't see any PL side taking a punt, so it would be down to him taking a pay cut and dropping down to the championship. 

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Good, good. The media can increasingly see, the fans have finally cottoned on in numbers, just the owners and I reckon that’s down to finances and first choice replacements (or any frankly with a pulse) declining the poison chalice. 

Russ is a popular as a fart in a spacesuit. Once the fans protests get going from some clear signs yesterday, the players will quickly follow. 

The players will be getting hacked off with it in private, make no mistake 

A manager making them look stupid over an over will be pissing them off, no amount of sickly cuddles will pacify 

Edited 25 November, 2024 by tdmickey3

[Dman]

16 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Did anyone else clock the smug look he gave when, during his MOTD interview, he arrogantly dismissed the idea that the first goal yesterday encapsulated our season?

The answer you're looking for Russ is yes, it absolutely does. Because literally anybody with any understanding of football can see that it does, and the only person that can't is you.

Until recently, I was in the "don't dislike the bloke and want him to succeed" camp, but now I'm firmly in the "I despise this prick and want him out of our club immediately" category.

It doesn't just encapsulate our season, but his whole time here. We were making these mistakes in the championship, but we simply had better players than everyone else, which dug us out of a hole more often than not. 

Its an easy excuse to say "what can he do about players making mistakes", but its litterally his job to coach and pick a side and system where they wont make these mistakes. 

The first goal, whilst is a mistake from McCarthy and poor from Downes, is down to noone but Russell Martin. Had we had Moyes in the dug out, we are not rolling the ball to an attacking midfilder on the edge of our own box with 3 players around him. McCarthy made that pass because that is what is being ingrained in him by the manager. 

[Badger]

24 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Did anyone else clock the smug look he gave when, during his MOTD interview, he arrogantly dismissed the idea that the first goal yesterday encapsulated our season?

The answer you're looking for Russ is yes, it absolutely does. Because literally anybody with any understanding of football can see that it does, and the only person that can't is you.

Until recently, I was in the "don't dislike the bloke and want him to succeed" camp, but now I'm firmly in the "I despise this prick and want him out of our club immediately" category.

Yes, commented on this on another thread. He did accept that the goal “was on him” , but no real humility in that. Interview got worse trotting out his usual mantra of being brave, and how if we continue to play like that “ they’ll be alright”.

 

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Did anyone else clock the smug look he gave when, during his MOTD interview, he arrogantly dismissed the idea that the first goal yesterday encapsulated our season?

The answer you're looking for Russ is yes, it absolutely does. Because literally anybody with any understanding of football can see that it does, and the only person that can't is you.

Until recently, I was in the "don't dislike the bloke and want him to succeed" camp, but now I'm firmly in the "I despise this prick and want him out of our club immediately" category.

Include me in.

[Oldandtired]

12 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

No way in the world should he be in charge for the Brighton game.

Time for the circus that are running the club to do something right for a change.

Pretty sure they won’t. Their bottom line is the amount of season tickets they sold, the 31 plus thousand of us suckers who turned up yesterday and the millions they got for winning the lottery of promotion. It’s apparent that they don’t care what happens on the pitch.

Edited 25 November, 2024 by Oldandtired

[Gloucester Saint]

4 minutes ago, Oldandtired said:

Pretty sure they won’t. Their bottom line is the amount of season tickets they sold, the 31 plus thousand of us suckers who turned up yesterday and the millions they got for winning the lottery of promotion. It’s apparent that they don’t care what happens on the pitch.

They will next season as gate income is much more important outside of the PL even with parachute payments. And the longer Russell is here without a more inspiring and obvious replacement for supporters and sponsors to identify with, the lower next season’s income will be, and Dragan will be writing some eye watering cheques. Plus FFP biting. 

Edited 25 November, 2024 by Gloucester Saint

[Oldandtired]

On another note I see this is coming back again after the shorter style…

Edited 25 November, 2024 by Oldandtired

[Miltonaggro]

12 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

No way in the world should he be in charge for the Brighton game.

Time for the circus that are running the club to do something right for a change.

The only time I can see this Board getting their collective heads out of their arses is when matchdays become fully toxic a la mad Nate, a situation that provides a fucking awful experience for the long-suffering fanbase.  Could feel the simmering yesterday but mitigated somewhat as 'it was Liverpool.'  Eventually Sport Republic will act, but reluctantly after blaming the long-suffering fanbase, just like they did with Jones.  Managing to cut their nose off to spite their face, incapable of learning from mistakes.  We then lose our Premier league status with a whimper followed by some really exciting young players out the door. Clown show.

[kitch]

On 14/11/2024 at 11:04, kitch said:

They'd expect to lose that game anyway. RM gets credit in the bank every time we 'compete' with a big club (Arsenal; City), play well and don't get thrashed. Ultimately we still lose, but it bangs the drum that there's a team in there.
Then we play someone like Wolves, Leicester or Bournemouth where we could actually have a chance of getting a result if we play well and we don't show up, or are tactically bullied by them.

Rinse & repeat.

I've never quoted myself before, but it's easier than writing it all out again.

[kitch]

15 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

We didn’t concede. We got the ball away from our goal area & defended properly. So what if we didn’t get the ball back for 6 mins, we didn’t fucking concede. 

Exactly what I thought. We defended for 6mins (against the league leaders, by the way) and DIDN'T concede.

How many goals have we conceded twatting around with it at the back in 6mins?

[ally_uk]

Weak leadership across the board 

Rudderless ship without direction. 

No director of football

A Manager who is deluded and plays shit football.... 

Coaches who can't instil basic defending principles... 

A Scouting setup that has been abysmal for a few seasons now.

Rasmus Wankerson another deluded charlatan....

Mass changes are needed! 

Dragan time to grow a set of bollocks lad! It's hammer time 

 

 

 

[Mr X]

Sports republic need an intervention 

Whose going to do that? 😂

[EssEffCee]

4 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Not much other option, and comes down to how much they want to save the club. Did my stint with Branfoot and later on Rupert Lowe x2. It doesn’t need to be all 3000 doing it, but one third would quite audible after the bursts of noise from Brighton in the aftermath of their goals has died down. 

Has to be done. Yesterday was the first game I've been to since he was here which didn't have anyone try and start "Russell Martin's red army" and the reaction to their first goal was very negative and noticeable.

The tide has turned and his behaviour yesterday will escalate that further. I'm confident we'll see a big reaction on Friday.

Needs to be regardless of how it's going on the pitch too. Don't care if we take the lead give him some stick.

[OttawaSaint]

Still our manager?

How bad does it need to get for SR to say enough is enough?

 

[OldNick]

10 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

Still our manager?

How bad does it need to get for SR to say enough is enough?

 

its a 10-12m pound decision, I'm not surprised they haven't pulled the plug. Yet again the club rolled out long extended contract extensions that end up hamstringing us.

Of course that was to protect us from him being poached by Barcelona and Real Madrid 

[tdmickey3]

21 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

Still our manager?

How bad does it need to get for SR to say enough is enough?

 

Who knows? But can it get any worse than losing every week? 

Obviously they don`t care about points, what do they care about?

[Gingeletiss]

1 hour ago, OldNick said:

its a 10-12m pound decision, I'm not surprised they haven't pulled the plug. Yet again the club rolled out long extended contract extensions that end up hamstringing us.

Of course that was to protect us from him being poached by Barcelona and Real Madrid 

Not really, he just needs to be told to change his approach to the game, if he doesn’t like it, he can resign.