bangkoksaint Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 16 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: There will be a % of nods still clapping him down the tunnel. Jones got “your football is shit”, he should have had this weeks ago. Fuck me people moaned about Claude Puel’s tactics, he was the great entertainer compared to this fucking cock. Last year was bad enough, boring winning football, but boring losing football is fucking tedious. Remember how we broke with pace to beat Liverpool at Anfield in the cup semi? Not in a million years would we do that under Martin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 🚨⚪️ Postecoglou: “Inconsistency this season is down to me. That's my responsibility”. “The inconsistency we're having this year, ultimately it comes down to me and my approach”. “It’s something I need to try and fix and see if I can help the players in that area”. That's what Ange Postecoglou said after their loss today. Shows strong leadership and awareness that he may have to adapt as a manager. The total opposite of RM. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 And has anyone else noticed that ever since Pep told everyone how much he admired Southampton FC and learned from RM, Man City have lost four on the bounce? 😀 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedyfly Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 18 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: 🚨⚪️ Postecoglou: “Inconsistency this season is down to me. That's my responsibility”. “The inconsistency we're having this year, ultimately it comes down to me and my approach”. “It’s something I need to try and fix and see if I can help the players in that area”. That's what Ange Postecoglou said after their loss today. Shows strong leadership and awareness that he may have to adapt as a manager. The total opposite of RM. That's because he's not winning the % stats like our Russ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 34 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: 🚨⚪️ Postecoglou: “Inconsistency this season is down to me. That's my responsibility”. “The inconsistency we're having this year, ultimately it comes down to me and my approach”. “It’s something I need to try and fix and see if I can help the players in that area”. That's what Ange Postecoglou said after their loss today. Shows strong leadership and awareness that he may have to adapt as a manager. The total opposite of RM. Yes but RM has got a beard Ange can only dream of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 8 minutes ago, Badger said: Yes but RM has got a beard Ange can only dream of. You obviously think it’s real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 56 minutes ago, aintforever said: This place tends to be more negative than St Mary’s - it’s a magnet for miserable fuckers who have nothing better to do than moan. That said, everyone I go to the games with wanted shot of him ages ago. The moaning tends to mirror the level of performances and results. Give us something to be positive about and we'll respond. Fans forums are the same the world over. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 3 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Russell Martin is deluded and has not helped himself at the best of times, but has he been backed with transfers. Not really. Are they his signings? I doubt. Has he got support in the transfer and scouting department? Again, I doubt very much. It doesn’t mean to say his tactics so far this season have been poor, but questions need to be asked of Sport Republic and fingers need to start pointing. It’s difficult to have a go at a manager when you don’t properly back him. If the summer signings weren't his pray tell us whose they were? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 (edited) It’s funny how one of the criticisms of Tall Paul is he was bought for Jones football. Yet we’re supposed to believe we didn’t buy any players for RussBall and Lego head had absolutely no input in the players that came in. Hes involved in transfers, no fucking doubt about it. If the players were imposed on him without his input, he’d have gone all Scott Parker and hidden behind that to cover his arse. Edited November 10 by Lord Duckhunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 1 hour ago, bangkoksaint said: Remember how we broke with pace to beat Liverpool at Anfield in the cup semi? Not in a million years would we do that under Martin Puel out!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 (edited) Serious question do the players really like playing Russball? Surely they'd love to play in a more attack minded team that sees the final third more than once a game? I struggle to see how an entire team of so called professional footballers is fully behind such a dire and suicidal style of play? Or are they all just happy just to be mates with Russ and swap tips on beard manicures? I know they say one thing to the media but surely there's got to be some kind of unrest now in the dressing room? Edited November 10 by Mr X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Special Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 1 hour ago, bangkoksaint said: Remember how we broke with pace to beat Liverpool at Anfield in the cup semi? Not in a million years would we do that under Martin Bring him home , we have unfinished business 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 6 minutes ago, Mr X said: Serious question do the players really like playing Russball? Surely they'd love to play in a more attack minded team that sees the final third more than once a game? I struggle to see how an entire team of so called professional footballers is fully behind such a dire and suicidal style of play? Or are they all just happy just to be mates with Russ and swap tips on beard manicures? I know they say one thing to the media but surely there's got to be some kind of unrest now in the dressing room? I think most of them just feel lucky to be in the Premier League, as players of their ability probably shouldn't have got there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 1 minute ago, Football Special said: Bring him home , we have unfinished business Now that was Les Miserables... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Special Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 46 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It’s funny how one of the criticisms of Tall Paul is he was bought for Jones football. Yet we’re supposed to believe we didn’t buy any players for RussBall and Lego head had absolutely no input in the players that came in. Hes involved in transfers, no fucking doubt about it. If the players were imposed on him without his input, he’d have gone all Scott Parker and hidden behind that to cover his arse. Not all but can see Martin's input in several signings where they used to play for him elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 44 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Now that was Les Miserables... 8th, having sold Mane, Pelle and VVD going on strike, then injured before being sold mid-season. Took us to Wembley not even conceding a single goal en route, including Emirates and Anfield. And asked to manage a 50 plus game season with three home games in a dead month in MY, which will never happen again I suspect. Removed as some fans said “not entertaining enough”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Forester said: 8th, having sold Mane, Pelle and VVD going on strike, then injured before being sold mid-season. Took us to Wembley not even conceding a single goal en route, including Emirates and Anfield. And asked to manage a 50 plus game season with three home games in a dead month in MY, which will never happen again I suspect. Removed as some fans said “not entertaining enough”. Absolutely - I was joking. It was a play on: - Bring him home - Puel being French - The fact the fans hated him for not being entertaining enough. I thought it was quite clever, but unfortunately I seem to be 'on my own' 😕 Edited November 10 by Farmer Saint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 The right appointment is Moyes, I’d like to see RVN based on how he’s held himself and changed United so quickly into an attacking team before worrying about possession stats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 6 hours ago, Football Special said: Guy Askham is putting together a consortium , plans to take us back to The Dell Count me in! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 1 hour ago, Football Special said: Bring him home , we have unfinished business Ha!! I'd take Puel's "boring" 0-0 and 1-0 wins over RM's boring weekly defeats every day of the week. And his hair looked better. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 4 minutes ago, Tommy said: The right appointment is Moyes, I’d like to see RVN based on how he’s held himself and changed United so quickly into an attacking team before worrying about possession stats. RVN has an abundance of attacking players at Old Trafford to select from. Don’t think you can take anything from his brief time there. If you go back a few pages one of the posters who follows Dutch football (may even be Dutch) makes a good summary of his time at PSV. Nothing special (even if he would be an upgrade on RM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 3 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Jones got “your football is shit”, he should have had this weeks ago. If you start singing it loudly yourself, others might join in...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 Oh look! Another several posters saying he’ll be gone by 15:00. He’ll be gone by 18:00. He’ll be gone by 21:00. It’s almost like they’re talking absolute bollocks. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 2 hours ago, Football Special said: Bring him home , we have unfinished business Ah. Can I change my vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 1 hour ago, Forester said: 8th, having sold Mane, Pelle and VVD going on strike, then injured before being sold mid-season. Took us to Wembley not even conceding a single goal en route, including Emirates and Anfield. And asked to manage a 50 plus game season with three home games in a dead month in MY, which will never happen again I suspect. Removed as some fans said “not entertaining enough”. And failed miserably in Europe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNewForest Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 7 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Oh look! Another several posters saying he’ll be gone by 15:00. He’ll be gone by 18:00. He’ll be gone by 21:00. It’s almost like they’re talking absolute bollocks. 😂 Its all over Twitter ffs ... "oh look at me, I'm an attention seeking prick" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob60 Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 27 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Oh look! Another several posters saying he’ll be gone by 15:00. He’ll be gone by 18:00. He’ll be gone by 21:00. It’s almost like they’re talking absolute bollocks. 😂 Would fit in very well on here, automatic entry into COT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 I’d be fascinated to see Sport Republic come out and say: “You have the choice, keep Russell Martin, or we can hire this manager or this manager - with these parameters in place, limited funds and largely sticking with what’s already here.” I wonder what response you’d suddenly get 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 Just now, Bob60 said: Would fit in very well on here, automatic entry into COT. I called Aaron Ramsdale and Ryan Fraser signing a month before they happened, I got slated, told I was incorrect, I was, I got no free pass 😢😂 Not bitter or anything 👀😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forkbeard Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mr X said: Serious question do the players really like playing Russball? Surely they'd love to play in a more attack minded team that sees the final third more than once a game? I struggle to see how an entire team of so called professional footballers is fully behind such a dire and suicidal style of play? Or are they all just happy just to be mates with Russ and swap tips on beard manicures? I know they say one thing to the media but surely there's got to be some kind of unrest now in the dressing room? One of the excuses his defenders made for us is that he clearly "had the dressing room". Now, that ignores the significant number of players he fell out with whilst Swans manager, but if you're the sneaky, suspicious type you begin to wonder just how it is that so many stories make the press about how popular within the club he is despite results and performances being absolutely shite. The conclusion is that the stories are originating with Martin himself. Either directly or via his buddies. Some managers make a habit of getting the local hacks onside by being a reliable source of stories, and Russy is quite good at it. Many, many times here we were told things via the local press that made him look good but clanged completely against reality. I'd be asking for the ultimate source of these stories if I was you. We had the same thing with Roberto Martinez in the past. Another pretty shite manager who journalists loved to big up because he was a good source of copy. Edited November 10 by Forkbeard Updating 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwenTheSaints Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 Can anyone say what we are trying to achieve as a club? All this talk of being on track and a 10 year plan - what kind of plan includes a second relegation in 3 seasons? Where’s the motivation for the players, and the fans, to get promoted to the Premier League next season, if we don’t even TRY to be competitive when we get there? Like what are we doing here? Martin *might* be well placed to bring us back up next year but to what end? We’ll just be in the same position as now (but minus ramsdale, harwood-bellis, downes etc) and potentially breaking our own lowest points record. To then just repeat the cycle? For what it’s worth, I don’t believe we were ready for promotion. We were dire at the beginning and end of the season (pre-playoffs) and our coveted unbeaten run came at a time when the top teams had pulled away and we didn’t have the pressure (and it included plentiful draws against Huddersfield, Watford…) We know the squad has weaknesses and the stubborn/dull tactics are easily countered in the Prem, but why the blind acceptance that this is our level and just part of the process? If no shots on target against a team that hasn’t kept a clean sheet since February and no wins this season doesn’t cause any concern, then there’s no reason for anyone to bother, be it manager, players, fans… Please, can someone explain what our thinking is as a club? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 11 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: I would really like to know who was in charge of football matters during the summer..... Wasn't it the vacuum cleaner salesman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 Has he fucking gone yet?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 Unfortunately he isn't going anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 I wont be shocked if he stays, but equally I won’t be shocked if he goes. That’s how weird this situation is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 Ten year plan talk is guff. SR didn't buy the club with the intention of us getting relegated. They thought they'd bought a small but sturdy established PL club that had diced with peril for a few seasons because of underinvestment and poor scouting. They assumed that they could bring in slightly better adminstrators and infrastructure and we'd be up with the likes of Brighton and Brentford again. The fact that they didn't manage it should give caution to anyone imagining that the same approach can be taken to getting promoted reliably from the Championship. Best laid plans n'all that. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 Current thinking from leaders would be. Who is available currently ? What about so and so at that club could we get him mid season ? How much would it cost to get rid of martin ? Is there a gurantee any new manager does better ? Why did we think we could do this ? Where the fuck is my money ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 12 hours ago, Harry_SFC said: 🚨⚪️ Postecoglou: “Inconsistency this season is down to me. That's my responsibility”. “The inconsistency we're having this year, ultimately it comes down to me and my approach”. “It’s something I need to try and fix and see if I can help the players in that area”. That's what Ange Postecoglou said after their loss today. Shows strong leadership and awareness that he may have to adapt as a manager. The total opposite of RM. I’m not sure what point you are trying to make, Russ is the most consistent manager ever. He had one blip, we were fortunate to beat Everton, and you can’t pin that on him! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 I expect he’ll limp on a couple of weeks more because of lucky 3 points he got. After losing to Liverpool and Brighton, I’ll be interested to see how things stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 16 hours ago, Disco Stu said: This is the kind of mentality he brought into the club... Fucking hell! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 1 hour ago, Convict Colony said: Current thinking from leaders would be. Who is available currently ? What about so and so at that club could we get him mid season ? How much would it cost to get rid of martin ? Is there a gurantee any new manager does better ? Why did we think we could do this ? Where the fuck is my money ? Problem with this thesis is that we don't seem to have any leaders... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 (edited) 13 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: If the summer signings weren't his pray tell us whose they were? Rasmus - see Christophe’s post on the SR thread. Still doesn’t excuse the dreadful tactics but bear in mind that ‘Mr Football’ will have almost certainly have had a major hand in selecting him in the first place even if Wilcox sealed the deal. Edited November 11 by Gloucester Saint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 If we carry on with this clueless fool we will become the worst ever team to be in the premier league, a complete laughing stock Every commentator will remind us how low our points total was, the 9 nil`s and our stupid obsession with a style that doesn't work. The will have to extend Monday night football to get all of the unwanted records in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 Decision time for SR. If they want even a glimmer of a chance of saving Saints from relegation then the time to make the change is now (in reality it was after the Bournemouth shambles but we are where we are). If they're happy to accept relegation and a scrap to make the play-offs next season without the likes of THB, Ramsdale & Fernandes then they'll let Martin try and beat the Derby points total. I suspect it'll be the latter. The equivalent of sideways, backwards and no shot on target. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 It feels like if he doesn't go by lunchtime today, then he's here to stay.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 1 minute ago, Saint NL said: It feels like if he doesn't go by lunchtime today, then he's here to stay.... I’m long past being bothered this season, didn’t even bother to watch the highlights this weekend, but he needs to go by the festive period just to try and salvage some momentum for next season. Sheff Utd’s little revival under Wilder, although brief, has helped them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 11 hours ago, egg said: Ha!! I'd take Puel's "boring" 0-0 and 1-0 wins over RM's boring weekly defeats every day of the week. And his hair looked better. He wouldn't lower his ambition to us now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 7 minutes ago, Saint NL said: It feels like if he doesn't go by lunchtime today, then he's here to stay.... He's said numerous times he doesn't worry about his job, that's either 1) Russ being the in denial and arrogant Russ we all know plus he knows there's a substantial compensation clause 2) Sports republic really are going all the way with the Martin philosophy and are going to stick with him to the bitter end to try and save face with yet another manager appointed by them that's turned out to not be a good fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 17 hours ago, Disco Stu said: This is the kind of mentality he brought into the club... All that tells me is that results don’t matter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 (edited) Another issue with Russball is, just watching it, sucks the life out of you....well it does me. Looking at our next 5 home games up to and inc Boxing Day - Liverpool x 2, Chelsea, Spurs & West Ham - all of those are live on Sky/BT/Prime so where is the desire for us out of towners to actually not just put our tickets on the Exchange thing and stay home? Its not fun anymore and the entertainment value is almost nil. Edited November 11 by beatlesaint 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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