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bangkoksaint

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16 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

There will be a % of nods still clapping him down the tunnel.

Jones got “your football is shit”, he should have had this weeks ago. Fuck me people moaned about Claude Puel’s tactics, he was the great entertainer compared to this fucking cock. Last year was bad enough, boring winning football, but boring losing football is fucking tedious. 

Remember how we broke with pace to beat Liverpool at Anfield in the cup semi? Not in a million years would we do that under Martin

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Harry_SFC

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🚨⚪️ Postecoglou: “Inconsistency this season is down to me. That's my responsibility”.

“The inconsistency we're having this year, ultimately it comes down to me and my approach”.

“It’s something I need to try and fix and see if I can help the players in that area”.

That's what Ange Postecoglou said after their loss today. Shows strong leadership and awareness that he may have to adapt as a manager.

The total opposite of RM. 

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18 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

🚨⚪️ Postecoglou: “Inconsistency this season is down to me. That's my responsibility”.

“The inconsistency we're having this year, ultimately it comes down to me and my approach”.

“It’s something I need to try and fix and see if I can help the players in that area”.

That's what Ange Postecoglou said after their loss today. Shows strong leadership and awareness that he may have to adapt as a manager.

The total opposite of RM. 

That's because he's not winning the % stats like our Russ.

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34 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

🚨⚪️ Postecoglou: “Inconsistency this season is down to me. That's my responsibility”.

“The inconsistency we're having this year, ultimately it comes down to me and my approach”.

“It’s something I need to try and fix and see if I can help the players in that area”.

That's what Ange Postecoglou said after their loss today. Shows strong leadership and awareness that he may have to adapt as a manager.

The total opposite of RM. 

Yes but RM has got a beard Ange can only dream of. 

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saintant

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56 minutes ago, aintforever said:

This place tends to be more negative than St Mary’s - it’s a magnet for miserable fuckers who have nothing better to do than moan.

That said, everyone I go to the games with wanted shot of him ages ago.

The moaning tends to mirror the level of performances and results. Give us something to be positive about and we'll respond. Fans forums are the same the world over.

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Fitzhugh Fella

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3 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Russell Martin is deluded and has not helped himself at the best of times, but has he been backed with transfers. Not really.

Are they his signings? I doubt.

Has he got support in the transfer and scouting department? Again, I doubt very much.

It doesn’t mean to say his tactics so far this season have been poor, but questions need to be asked of Sport Republic and fingers need to start pointing.

It’s difficult to have a go at a manager when you don’t properly back him.

If the summer signings weren't his pray tell us whose they were?

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Lord Duckhunter

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It’s funny how one of the criticisms of Tall Paul is he was bought for Jones football. Yet we’re supposed to believe we didn’t buy any players for RussBall and Lego head had absolutely no input in the players that came in. 
 

Hes involved in transfers, no fucking doubt about it. If the players were imposed on him without his input, he’d have gone all Scott Parker and hidden behind that to cover his arse. 

 

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Mr X

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Serious question do the players really like playing Russball? Surely they'd love to play in a more attack minded team that sees the final third more than once a game?

I struggle to see how an entire team of so called professional footballers is fully behind such a dire and suicidal style of play?

Or are they all just happy just to be mates with Russ and swap tips on beard manicures?

I know they say one thing to the media but surely there's got to be some kind of unrest now in the dressing room? 

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Farmer Saint

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6 minutes ago, Mr X said:

Serious question do the players really like playing Russball? Surely they'd love to play in a more attack minded team that sees the final third more than once a game?

I struggle to see how an entire team of so called professional footballers is fully behind such a dire and suicidal style of play?

Or are they all just happy just to be mates with Russ and swap tips on beard manicures?

I know they say one thing to the media but surely there's got to be some kind of unrest now in the dressing room? 

I think most of them just feel lucky to be in the Premier League, as players of their ability probably shouldn't have got there.

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Football Special

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46 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

It’s funny how one of the criticisms of Tall Paul is he was bought for Jones football. Yet we’re supposed to believe we didn’t buy any players for RussBall and Lego head had absolutely no input in the players that came in. 
 

Hes involved in transfers, no fucking doubt about it. If the players were imposed on him without his input, he’d have gone all Scott Parker and hidden behind that to cover his arse. 

 

Not all but can see Martin's input in several signings where they used to play for him elsewhere 

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Forester

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44 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Now that was Les Miserables...

8th, having sold Mane, Pelle and VVD going on strike, then injured before being sold mid-season.  Took us to Wembley not even conceding a single goal en route, including Emirates and Anfield.  And asked to manage a 50 plus game season with three home games in a dead month in MY, which will never happen again I suspect.

Removed as some fans said “not entertaining enough”.  

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Farmer Saint

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3 minutes ago, Forester said:

8th, having sold Mane, Pelle and VVD going on strike, then injured before being sold mid-season.  Took us to Wembley not even conceding a single goal en route, including Emirates and Anfield.  And asked to manage a 50 plus game season with three home games in a dead month in MY, which will never happen again I suspect.

Removed as some fans said “not entertaining enough”.  

Absolutely - I was joking. It was a play on:

- Bring him home

- Puel being French 

- The fact the fans hated him for not being entertaining enough.

 

I thought it was quite clever, but unfortunately I seem to be 'on my own' 😕 

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1 hour ago, Football Special said:

Bring him home , we have unfinished business 

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Ha!! I'd take Puel's "boring" 0-0 and 1-0 wins over RM's boring weekly defeats every day of the week. 

And his hair looked better. 

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Badger

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4 minutes ago, Tommy said:

The right appointment is Moyes, I’d like to see RVN based on how he’s held himself and changed United so quickly into an attacking team before worrying about possession stats. 

RVN has an abundance of attacking players at Old Trafford to select from. Don’t think you can take anything from his brief time there.

If you go back a few pages one of the posters who follows Dutch football (may even be Dutch) makes a good summary of his time at PSV. Nothing special (even if he would be an upgrade on RM) 

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Whitey Grandad

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1 hour ago, Forester said:

8th, having sold Mane, Pelle and VVD going on strike, then injured before being sold mid-season.  Took us to Wembley not even conceding a single goal en route, including Emirates and Anfield.  And asked to manage a 50 plus game season with three home games in a dead month in MY, which will never happen again I suspect.

Removed as some fans said “not entertaining enough”.  

And failed miserably in Europe.

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SaintNewForest

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7 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Oh look!

Another several posters saying he’ll be gone by 15:00. He’ll be gone by 18:00. He’ll be gone by 21:00.

It’s almost like they’re talking absolute bollocks. 😂

Its all over Twitter ffs ... "oh look at me, I'm an attention seeking prick" 

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Bob60

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27 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Oh look!

Another several posters saying he’ll be gone by 15:00. He’ll be gone by 18:00. He’ll be gone by 21:00.

It’s almost like they’re talking absolute bollocks. 😂

Would fit in very well on here, automatic entry into COT.

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Forkbeard

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3 hours ago, Mr X said:

Serious question do the players really like playing Russball? Surely they'd love to play in a more attack minded team that sees the final third more than once a game?

I struggle to see how an entire team of so called professional footballers is fully behind such a dire and suicidal style of play?

Or are they all just happy just to be mates with Russ and swap tips on beard manicures?

I know they say one thing to the media but surely there's got to be some kind of unrest now in the dressing room? 


One of the excuses his defenders made for us is that he clearly "had the dressing room". Now, that ignores the significant number of players he fell out with whilst Swans manager, but if you're the sneaky, suspicious type you begin to wonder just how it is that so many stories make the press about how popular within the club he is despite results and performances being absolutely shite.

The conclusion is that the stories are originating with Martin himself. Either directly or via his buddies. Some managers make a habit of getting the local hacks onside by being a reliable source of stories, and Russy is quite good at it. Many, many times here we were told things via the local press that made him look good but clanged completely against reality. I'd be asking for the ultimate source of these stories if I was you.

We had the same thing with Roberto Martinez in the past. Another pretty shite manager who journalists loved to big up because he was a good source of copy.

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OwenTheSaints

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Can anyone say what we are trying to achieve as a club? All this talk of being on track and a 10 year plan - what kind of plan includes a second relegation in 3 seasons? Where’s the motivation for the players, and the fans, to get promoted to the Premier League next season, if we don’t even TRY to be competitive when we get there? Like what are we doing here? Martin *might* be well placed to bring us back up next year but to what end? We’ll just be in the same position as now (but minus ramsdale, harwood-bellis, downes etc) and potentially breaking our own lowest points record. To then just repeat the cycle? 
 
For what it’s worth, I don’t believe we were ready for promotion. We were dire at the beginning and end of the season (pre-playoffs) and our coveted unbeaten run came at a time when the top teams had pulled away and we didn’t have the pressure (and it included plentiful draws against Huddersfield, Watford…) 
 
We know the squad has weaknesses and the stubborn/dull tactics are easily countered in the Prem, but why the blind acceptance that this is our level and just part of the process? If no shots on target against a team that hasn’t kept a clean sheet since February and no wins this season doesn’t cause any concern, then there’s no reason for anyone to bother, be it manager, players, fans…
 
Please, can someone explain what our thinking is as a club? 
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verlaine1979

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Ten year plan talk is guff. SR didn't buy the club with the intention of us getting relegated. They thought they'd bought a small but sturdy established PL club that had diced with peril for a few seasons because of underinvestment and poor scouting. They assumed that they could bring in slightly better adminstrators and infrastructure and we'd be up with the likes of Brighton and Brentford again. The fact that they didn't manage it should give caution to anyone imagining that the same approach can be taken to getting promoted reliably from the Championship. Best laid plans n'all that.

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Convict Colony

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Current thinking from leaders would be.

Who is available currently ?

What about so and so at that club could we get him mid season ?

How much would it cost to get rid of martin ?

Is there a gurantee any new manager does better ?

Why did we think we could do this ?

Where the fuck is my money ?

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Toussaint

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12 hours ago, Harry_SFC said:

🚨⚪️ Postecoglou: “Inconsistency this season is down to me. That's my responsibility”.

“The inconsistency we're having this year, ultimately it comes down to me and my approach”.

“It’s something I need to try and fix and see if I can help the players in that area”.

That's what Ange Postecoglou said after their loss today. Shows strong leadership and awareness that he may have to adapt as a manager.

The total opposite of RM. 

I’m not sure what point you are trying to make, Russ is the most consistent manager ever. He had one blip, we were fortunate to beat Everton, and you can’t pin that on him! 

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1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

Current thinking from leaders would be.

Who is available currently ?

What about so and so at that club could we get him mid season ?

How much would it cost to get rid of martin ?

Is there a gurantee any new manager does better ?

Why did we think we could do this ?

Where the fuck is my money ?

Problem with this thesis is that we don't seem to have any leaders...

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Gloucester Saint

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13 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

If the summer signings weren't his pray tell us whose they were?

Rasmus - see Christophe’s post on the SR thread. Still doesn’t excuse the dreadful tactics but bear in mind that ‘Mr Football’ will have almost certainly have had a major hand in selecting him in the first place even if Wilcox sealed the deal.

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tdmickey3

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If we carry on with this clueless fool we will become the worst ever team to be in the premier league, a complete laughing stock

Every commentator will remind us how low our points total was, the 9 nil`s and our stupid obsession with a style that doesn't work.

The will have to extend Monday night football to get all of the unwanted records in.

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obelisk

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Decision time for SR. If they want even a glimmer of a chance of saving Saints from relegation then the time to make the change is now (in reality it was after the Bournemouth shambles but we are where we are). If they're happy to accept relegation and a scrap to make the play-offs next season without the likes of THB, Ramsdale & Fernandes then they'll let Martin try and beat the Derby points total.

I suspect it'll be the latter. The equivalent of sideways, backwards and no shot on target.

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Gloucester Saint

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1 minute ago, Saint NL said:

It feels like if he doesn't go by lunchtime today, then he's here to stay....

I’m long past being bothered this season, didn’t even bother to watch the highlights this weekend, but he needs to go by the festive period just to try and salvage some momentum for next season. Sheff Utd’s little revival under Wilder, although brief, has helped them.

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Mr X

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7 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

It feels like if he doesn't go by lunchtime today, then he's here to stay....

He's said numerous times he doesn't worry about his job, that's either 

1) Russ being the in denial and arrogant Russ we all know plus he knows there's a substantial compensation clause  

2) Sports republic really are going all the way with the Martin philosophy and are going to stick with him to the bitter end to try and save face with yet another manager appointed by them that's turned out to not be a good fit 

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beatlesaint

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Another issue with Russball is, just watching it, sucks the life out of you....well it does me.

Looking at our next 5 home games up to and inc Boxing Day - Liverpool x 2, Chelsea, Spurs & West Ham - all of those are live on Sky/BT/Prime so where is the desire for us out of towners to actually not just put our tickets on the Exchange thing and stay home? Its not fun anymore and the entertainment value is almost nil. 

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