saintant Posted Sunday at 12:26 Share Posted Sunday at 12:26 36 minutes ago, derry said: If that's a quote the man is a deluded idiot albeit on a rock star's salary. The club seems full of con men, can be the only conclusion. As he rightly says the guys at the back take all the risks. So stop taking the risks because as soon as they start rotating the ball opponents breathe a sigh of relief, form up and put the whole team in front of the ball making it incredibly difficult to pass through. If he wants to break the line, change the focus, pass the ball quickly forward thence to the breaking forwards maximum two or three passes into the space behind the defenders. Use the whole width and attack out to in. Equally in defence defend in to out instead of kamikaze wing backs leaving spaces for opponents to exploit. Never mind three centre backs defend with a back four. What we are currently doing will never work at this level unless we do it with the best players in the world and that can't happen. We have some good players that aren't being used to their natural strengths and are currently wasted. We need a manager that throws away the dogma and looks at the players and puts them into a framework that brings the best out of them, supports colleagues and provides the team with it's best chance. At the moment they are like actors reading from a script and daren't adlib. Sad to say they are getting the results their play deserves. Everything is so slow. High tempo, hard press, physical challenge and hard running is the way to go. It is long past the time for change. All good points but it feels like we are banging our collective heads against a brick wall. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted Sunday at 12:28 Share Posted Sunday at 12:28 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: He’s as much a Farmer as I’m a friggin astronaut. You must have taken it badly when you found out that there is no Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy or women who will have sex with you without being drunk or in exchange for cash. You seem to have grown up with the impression that everyone is lying to you. Strange that you think the people who actually do, like Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage, are the people you are prepared to believe. You need to re-calibrate your pony detector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted Sunday at 12:30 Share Posted Sunday at 12:30 1 minute ago, sadoldgit said: You must have taken it badly when you found out that there is no Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy or women who will have sex with you without being drunk or in exchange for cash. You seem to have grown up with the impression that everyone is lying to you. Strange that you think the people who actually do, like Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage, are the people you are prepared to believe. You need to re-calibrate your pony detector. Jesus wept. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsBarry74 Posted Sunday at 12:36 Share Posted Sunday at 12:36 Baffling how many Saints fans are still backing Martin. Check recent posts on youtube, twitter and reddit: We're fast becoming a meme team with all this pointless possession and little to no shots on target. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted Sunday at 12:48 Share Posted Sunday at 12:48 (edited) I am not normally one for demanding that Club owners issue statements to supporters every 5 minutes, but surely, now IS the time? They need to provide some sort of idea as to their thinking/planning. Just staying quiet in the background and letting things fall apart around them doesn't seem to make any sense, especially when you are dealing with/trying to keep paying customers. Edited Sunday at 12:54 by miserableoldgit 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted Sunday at 12:58 Share Posted Sunday at 12:58 27 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: You must have taken it badly when you found out that there is no Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy or women who will have sex with you without being drunk or in exchange for cash. You seem to have grown up with the impression that everyone is lying to you. Strange that you think the people who actually do, like Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage, are the people you are prepared to believe. You need to re-calibrate your pony detector. Go away you bitter old man. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted Sunday at 13:06 Share Posted Sunday at 13:06 1 hour ago, Suhari said: Has he visited Uranus? (Sorry, couldn't stop myself!) FFS. I quoted the wrong post and phone won't let me delete the post content. You get the gist though. His own regularly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted Sunday at 13:09 Share Posted Sunday at 13:09 18 minutes ago, SaintsBarry74 said: Baffling how many Saints fans are still backing Martin. Check recent posts on youtube, twitter and reddit: We're fast becoming a meme team with all this pointless possession and little to no shots on target. I am not exactly still backing him, but I am a bit torn. I actually like him (as I did Ralph) and in some ways will be sorry to see him go. As I have said before, his style of football is brilliant............when it works. A number of times last season when we were winning games, seeing the opposition get frustrated because they couldn't get the ball off us was great. Sadly, when it doesn't work, it is f*cking diabolical! I am not one for name-calling but it is not his fault. He has his way of playing and he is determined to stick with it.....principals.....I get it. He could get a job at a lower league club and be very successful with it. It is up to the owners to either stick with it and take the consequences or say it aint working, and then make a change. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted Sunday at 13:17 Share Posted Sunday at 13:17 2 hours ago, beatlesaint said: Russell Martin: "At the minute the balance is the guys at the back take all the risk and show all the courage. "The guys at the front have to do more. It's our job to free them up somehow and give them more moments where they are 1-vs-1." This twat really is on a wind up isnt he? FFS This thread should be renamed, The Incredible Bulshitting Martin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted Sunday at 13:23 Share Posted Sunday at 13:23 So the team is two separate parts , defence and possibly attack , not actually a team then . That explains it all . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted Sunday at 13:29 Share Posted Sunday at 13:29 Just now, East Kent Saint said: So the team is two separate parts , defence and possibly attack , not actually a team then . That explains it all . Yeah and I'm sure the forwards who hardly ever see the ball are really happy that Martin views them as not being brave like the defenders. It's strange that RM advocates possession football yet he's been here for 18 months and still not managed to coach many of our players how to pass the ball. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted Sunday at 13:31 Share Posted Sunday at 13:31 Russell Martin is fucking deluded and is talking utter shite again. Dragan must be an even bigger cunt though, for standing by and doing nothing. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouSaint Posted Sunday at 13:52 Share Posted Sunday at 13:52 He needed to go after the Bournemouth performance but it's to late now, the damage is done and we are down. The job won't be attractive and let's not forget that these idiot owners thought Nathan Jones and Ruben Selles were worth a shot in the Prem. Sport Republic are the big issue. We won't be a decent top flight outfit under these clowns. They got a free pass last time out in the Prem and I fear they'll get another one this season. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmore Saint Posted Sunday at 13:53 Share Posted Sunday at 13:53 I wish rid of the whole lot of them, RM, SR and Dragan and the clown car they all showed up in. I just want someone in charge who understands the city, the fans and possibly even the game. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Special Posted Sunday at 14:09 Share Posted Sunday at 14:09 14 minutes ago, Elmore Saint said: I wish rid of the whole lot of them, RM, SR and Dragan and the clown car they all showed up in. I just want someone in charge who understands the city, the fans and possibly even the game. Guy Askham is putting together a consortium , plans to take us back to The Dell 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted Sunday at 14:14 Share Posted Sunday at 14:14 (edited) 46 minutes ago, saintant said: Yeah and I'm sure the forwards who hardly ever see the ball are really happy that Martin views them as not being brave like the defenders. It's strange that RM advocates possession football yet he's been here for 18 months and still not managed to coach many of our players how to pass the ball. Also funny how Dibling is the only player who really tries to take the opposition on and he's been quickly dropped in favour of AA who who couldn't beat a snail. Edited Sunday at 14:15 by Harry_SFC 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted Sunday at 14:23 Share Posted Sunday at 14:23 Man United winning again, they look like a team reborn after sacking their manager..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted Sunday at 14:36 Share Posted Sunday at 14:36 26 minutes ago, Football Special said: Guy Askham is putting together a consortium , plans to take us back to The Dell Only until the Stoneham stadium is ready, I hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMrsWallace Posted Sunday at 15:06 Share Posted Sunday at 15:06 According to RM "We don't beat the opponent quite enough yet" - try 10 times out of 11 you muppet The guy is delusional. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted Sunday at 15:24 Share Posted Sunday at 15:24 Russell Martin is deluded and has not helped himself at the best of times, but has he been backed with transfers. Not really. Are they his signings? I doubt. Has he got support in the transfer and scouting department? Again, I doubt very much. It doesn’t mean to say his tactics so far this season have been poor, but questions need to be asked of Sport Republic and fingers need to start pointing. It’s difficult to have a go at a manager when you don’t properly back him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted Sunday at 15:27 Share Posted Sunday at 15:27 1 minute ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Russell Martin is deluded and has not helped himself at the best of times, but has he been backed with transfers. Not really. Are they his signings? I doubt. Has he got support in the transfer and scouting department? Again, I doubt very much. It doesn’t mean to say his tactics so far this season have been poor, but questions need to be asked of Sport Republic and fingers need to start pointing. It’s difficult to have a go at a manager when you don’t properly back him. Cough! Manning, Wood, I would say they are very much his signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted Sunday at 15:34 Share Posted Sunday at 15:34 6 minutes ago, Gingeletiss said: Cough! Manning, Wood, I would say they are very much his signings. This is the kind of mentality he brought into the club... 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted Sunday at 15:37 Share Posted Sunday at 15:37 (edited) 3 hours ago, sadoldgit said: You must have taken it badly when you found out that there is no Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy or women who will have sex with you without being drunk or in exchange for cash. You seem to have grown up with the impression that everyone is lying to you. Stop projecting. Edited Sunday at 15:42 by Disco Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted Sunday at 15:38 Share Posted Sunday at 15:38 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: This is the kind of mentality he brought into the club... That has to be fake 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted Sunday at 15:43 Share Posted Sunday at 15:43 16 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Russell Martin is deluded and has not helped himself at the best of times, but has he been backed with transfers. Not really. Are they his signings? I doubt. Has he got support in the transfer and scouting department? Again, I doubt very much. It doesn’t mean to say his tactics so far this season have been poor, but questions need to be asked of Sport Republic and fingers need to start pointing. It’s difficult to have a go at a manager when you don’t properly back him. He said a lot of times that we would only sign players who 'wanted to join'. Every player who has come in has mentioned speaking to RM. It's not unreasonable to think he has the sign-off on every transfer we make. Wood was an example of a signing who will have come 100% from him, and he's a League One player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted Sunday at 15:44 Share Posted Sunday at 15:44 3 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Definitely not mate...not in space at the moment, but you get the idea. When you do go up next time and take a picture make sure to hold up a piece of paper by that porthole with “farmer fuck” written on it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted Sunday at 15:45 Share Posted Sunday at 15:45 9 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: This is the kind of mentality he brought into the club... Don't players also fall out of love with the game when they get easily beaten every week? If a professional footballer isn't results driven then maybe they should be turning out for the local pub team instead. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted Sunday at 15:45 Share Posted Sunday at 15:45 Corner flag of doom incoming tomorrow? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted Sunday at 15:48 Share Posted Sunday at 15:48 2 minutes ago, Verbal said: Corner flag of doom incoming tomorrow? You'll be disappointed if you're waiting for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted Sunday at 15:50 Share Posted Sunday at 15:50 25 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Russell Martin is deluded and has not helped himself at the best of times, but has he been backed with transfers. Not really. Are they his signings? I doubt. Has he got support in the transfer and scouting department? Again, I doubt very much. It doesn’t mean to say his tactics so far this season have been poor, but questions need to be asked of Sport Republic and fingers need to start pointing. It’s difficult to have a go at a manager when you don’t properly back him. Of course they are his signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted Sunday at 15:52 Share Posted Sunday at 15:52 23 minutes ago, Gingeletiss said: Cough! Manning, Wood, I would say they are very much his signings. & Fraser is his buddy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted Sunday at 15:53 Share Posted Sunday at 15:53 7 minutes ago, Verbal said: Corner flag of doom incoming tomorrow? ITK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted Sunday at 15:56 Share Posted Sunday at 15:56 2 hours ago, SouSaint said: He needed to go after the Bournemouth performance but it's to late now, the damage is done and we are down. The job won't be attractive and let's not forget that these idiot owners thought Nathan Jones and Ruben Selles were worth a shot in the Prem. Sport Republic are the big issue. We won't be a decent top flight outfit under these clowns. They got a free pass last time out in the Prem and I fear they'll get another one this season. It’s never too late. The best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago. The second best time is now. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted Sunday at 16:01 Share Posted Sunday at 16:01 26 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: This is the kind of mentality he brought into the club... Fuck results. It’s all about how much possession we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted Sunday at 16:01 Share Posted Sunday at 16:01 16 minutes ago, Verbal said: Corner flag of doom incoming tomorrow? Doubt that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted Sunday at 16:05 Share Posted Sunday at 16:05 Think we can give up on the theory that they had someone else lined up to take over from Martin! If he's not going to get the sack after yesterdays all time low then he's here to stay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted Sunday at 16:10 Share Posted Sunday at 16:10 We are the only promoted team in bottom three, and all teams have now played more than half of their opponents 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegalEagle Posted Sunday at 16:16 Author Share Posted Sunday at 16:16 It is very clear that it doesn’t matter what the results are week in week out, as things stand the club won’t sack RM. They’re going to give him the season. The only thing that might change that mindset is either a stay away from the fans, a walk out during a game or demonstrations in the ground game after game. Essentially it’s up to the fans. You want him gone then instead of coming on here and bitching about it, take some action and get the fans on board. No guarantees it will work but on the pitch and in the boardroom nothing will change. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted Sunday at 16:21 Share Posted Sunday at 16:21 So no danger of a boot hitting you on the head or the tray of drinks hitting the wall after losing. Sod the love. Alex Ferguson wasn't successful with the love, they were bloody terrified of him. We need something different. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted Sunday at 16:45 Share Posted Sunday at 16:45 I don't understand how RM can honestly still believe his own hype when we're playing so badly and going down with barely a whimper. We are the worst performing team in the top 4 divisions. How does he still think he is right? Who does he blame, the players? The fans? I just don't get it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted Sunday at 16:52 Share Posted Sunday at 16:52 5 hours ago, Nordic Saint said: We'd probably be better off with Dark Munster, rather than Ankersen, choosing our next manager. 99% of fans could do a better job than the Danish Del Boy. Shit, a monkey with a tombola would be able to choose better managers than that charlatan. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted Sunday at 16:54 Share Posted Sunday at 16:54 (edited) 20 minutes ago, BotleySaint said: I don't understand how RM can honestly still believe his own hype when we're playing so badly and going down with barely a whimper. We are the worst performing team in the top 4 divisions. How does he still think he is right? Who does he blame, the players? The fans? I just don't get it. He's on a mega salary. And if press reports/rumours are correct he may get to knob Miss Pinder in his spare time. I can see why he thinks life is pretty good and doesn't let a little thing like football results get in the way of enjoying it. Who was it at our club who said something to the effect t of 'results aren't important' ? It might have been Semmens, who's now gone, but it seems that is another "philosophy" ( and we do seem to like those) which is pervasive through the club. Edited Sunday at 17:06 by Badger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted Sunday at 17:04 Share Posted Sunday at 17:04 (edited) 4 hours ago, SaintsBarry74 said: Baffling how many Saints fans are still backing Martin. Check recent posts on youtube, twitter and reddit: We're fast becoming a meme team with all this pointless possession and little to no shots on target. Are they though ? Or is it the internet forums that are out of step with the public mood ? Edited Sunday at 17:04 by Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted Sunday at 17:07 Share Posted Sunday at 17:07 (edited) . Edited Sunday at 17:35 by Disco Stu Wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted Sunday at 17:35 Share Posted Sunday at 17:35 23 minutes ago, Badger said: Are they though ? Or is it the internet forums that are out of step with the public mood ? There will be a % of nods still clapping him down the tunnel. Jones got “your football is shit”, he should have had this weeks ago. Fuck me people moaned about Claude Puel’s tactics, he was the great entertainer compared to this fucking cock. Last year was bad enough, boring winning football, but boring losing football is fucking tedious. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsBarry74 Posted Sunday at 17:36 Share Posted Sunday at 17:36 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: This is the kind of mentality he brought into the club... Even my son's nursery school are more competitive than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted Sunday at 17:43 Share Posted Sunday at 17:43 1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said: There will be a % of nods still clapping him down the tunnel. Jones got “your football is shit”, he should have had this weeks ago. Fuck me people moaned about Claude Puel’s tactics, he was the great entertainer compared to this fucking cock. Last year was bad enough, boring winning football, but boring losing football is fucking tedious. It was easy for the fans to voice their displeasure over Jones because some of the stuff he was coming out with in the media. Russell talks just as much shit but gets away with it as people think he's a "nice guy" when to me he actually seems very arrogant. I guess having a promotion under your belt helps too but that doesn't wash with me (we were very lucky to go up IMO). No doubt SR would've stuck with Jones for longer if the fans hadn't have turned. Sadly I just can't see this happening to Martin. As you say, a fair few still clap the bloke at the end of games as if he's the messiah. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted Sunday at 17:46 Share Posted Sunday at 17:46 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Badger said: Are they though ? Or is it the internet forums that are out of step with the public mood ? This place tends to be more negative than St Mary’s - it’s a magnet for miserable fuckers who have nothing better to do than moan. That said, everyone I go to the games with wanted shot of him ages ago. Edited Sunday at 17:46 by aintforever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted Sunday at 17:48 Share Posted Sunday at 17:48 1 minute ago, aintforever said: That said everyone I go to the games with wanted shot of him ages ago. So do you/they let this view be known at the match ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted Sunday at 17:52 Share Posted Sunday at 17:52 3 minutes ago, aintforever said: That said, everyone I go to the games with wanted shot of him ages ago. Then they really need to (very loudly) make themselves heard. If not, that smug bastard Ankersen will think everything’s hunky dory and carry on with his disastrous vanity project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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