Zorba Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Kermitzasaint said: Keep persisting about comments about my wife, we all know the state of what sturdy lump you must have at home. Steady.. You don’t want to alienate yourself from half this forum now, do you? Edited October 10 by Zorba 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 2 hours ago, Kermitzasaint said: You really are desperate for attention aren't you. Each post is 'look at me, look at me'! Its tedious in the extreme. I also don't follow you. Considering how often you post, that would be a full time job. I ignore most of your posts because you have nothing to offer. Keep persisting about comments about my wife, we all know the state of what sturdy lump you must have at home. Bit awkward... 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 2 hours ago, Kermitzasaint said: You really are desperate for attention aren't you. Each post is 'look at me, look at me'! Its tedious in the extreme. I also don't follow you. Considering how often you post, that would be a full time job. I ignore most of your posts because you have nothing to offer. Keep persisting about comments about my wife, we all know the state of what sturdy lump you must have at home. He has to get his attention somehow as the transfer window is a way off so he has to get his fix away from the COT bollocks, for now 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 4 hours ago, Farmer Saint said: I get that, I'm not disagreeing, but come up with a solution - unless you're proposing having no manager for the remainder of the season. The club pay people to ‘come up with a solution’. There are managers out there, both in work and out of, that we could appoint. Also, experienced pros like Moyes and Potter play the game. They’ll make the club do the chasing and put themselves into a better bargaining position. You may be right, and neither are interested. But just because that’s the noise coming from the teaboy at the agency, doesn’t mean it’s the truth. Check this link of out of work managers: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik and take your pick. Plenty of choices there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermitzasaint Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 30 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Bit awkward... Laughing at your idiocy is not following. You need to try harder. I could put you on ignore but idiocy is amusing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 51 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: The club pay people to ‘come up with a solution’. There are managers out there, both in work and out of, that we could appoint. Also, experienced pros like Moyes and Potter play the game. They’ll make the club do the chasing and put themselves into a better bargaining position. You may be right, and neither are interested. But just because that’s the noise coming from the teaboy at the agency, doesn’t mean it’s the truth. Check this link of out of work managers: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik and take your pick. Plenty of choices there. Absolutely - he's not the teaboy by any stretch but agree, we may be able to buy our way into their thoughts. However, I think we'll be sacking too early if we sack now as both Moyes and Potter will bide their time. The issue is we do pay people to make those decisions, but those people have appointed Jones, Selles and Martin as the last 3 Managers. I was just asking outside of those two above who realistically you would want in to take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 50 minutes ago, Kermitzasaint said: Laughing at your idiocy is not following. You need to try harder. I could put you on ignore but idiocy is amusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 4 hours ago, Farmer Saint said: Who's this @tdmickey3 character? Seems to be following me around the forum like a bad smell? Is he the same person as @Kermitzasaint as they both seem to be following me, but we all know Kermit cos his wife's been shagging RM. Probably, Micky boy is a known serial accounter having been banned under a number of previous accounts. Odd character, seems to follow a few about... needs to get outside a bit more imo. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 I suggest Wolves have a better case for removing their manager more than us. Our squad is weak and I doubt a decent manager looking in from afar will be remotely interested in risking their reputation with the fare on offer. We seem to be relying on an 18 year old kid to save the clubs season, it is madness. IMO we should have used the Ramsdale money to buy a top grade forward, as much as I like him, he hasnt shored up the defence and has let in loads (not his fault) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Just spoke to my Brighton fan mate and he said Potter played exciting football getting them top 8. Their main problem was having someone to put the ball in the net, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 49 minutes ago, Dman said: Probably, Micky boy is a known serial accounter having been banned under a number of previous accounts. Odd character, seems to follow a few about... needs to get outside a bit more imo. Ah, so I should see it as a positive thing then - that I'm doing something right. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) 34 minutes ago, OldNick said: Just spoke to my Brighton fan mate and he said Potter played exciting football getting them top 8. Their main problem was having someone to put the ball in the net, The football was pretty poor Nick - people down here were glad to see him go and certainly didn't want him back when De Zerbi left. Edited October 10 by Farmer Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said: The football was pretty poor Nick - people down here were glad to see him go and certainly didn't want him back when De Zerbi left. Still trying too hard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 On 09/10/2024 at 13:43, gio1saints said: Long post. Turn away now if this is too much. The summary version is : sacking RM is expensive and I don’t think it will happen. Longer version: Not been mentioned, yet, but there is a significant financial reason why I don’t think he will be sacked. I’m sensing a bunch of “ staying in the EPL is worth £ xyz millions so if we have to blow £xx millions now it’s worth it “ type of thinking going on. Except blowing £xx millions has not got any guarantee of us staying in the EPL at all and the greatest betting probability at the bookies is that with RM - OR WITHOUT- we will still be relegated. But in the case of ditching him We’d not only be relegated - but in all probability both fucked financially AND relegated. How’s that? For a start it’s not just Russell but probably 7 or 8 other colleagues of his who also would likely leave or be replaced by the incoming new managers team of coaches, analysts, physios etc Paying up 2.5 years to those is going to cost multi millions. Buying a GOOD new manager will cost maybe £5-£10m. You get what you pay for. Getting a cheap one is surely not an option? If you gonna sack our existing cheap option and your track record with cheap options has been terrible are you just going to go all Groundhog Day again by putting in Nathan Jones mk2? You’d hope not…maybe there is a GOOD unemployed Manager perfect for Saints out there - But of the two most likely that spring to mind neither Moyes nor Potter are interested. If they are any good, like Zlatan once famously said -( paraphrased) - SFC really? they are not going to drop to Saints level. Next: Vincent kompany got sold by Burnley to Munich for £10.2m ~after relegating them.😂. Not saying Russell is worth £10.2m to some other team but paying up those contracts AND foregoing his sale end of season is a double hit. And seems utterly bonkers. if the likelihood is you are going down either way why would you not keep the financial cushion of at least being able to flog the gaffer like Burnley did? So the itinerary goes something like this for you Russell out guys : (1) Buy top new Manager ( not some unemployed c&nt who is unemployed for good reason) : c. £10m. Does that include his team ? If so add extra. (2) Pay Top new Manager Top New Manager wages and Top New Manager contract to his mates : this is obvs higher than what RM and outgoing team are being paid. God knows how much more but it will be more. And we are desperate so our hand is weak. (3) Pay off RM and his team - I’m totally guessing it’s £6m -£8m. Could be more. Maybe a bit less. (4) Do NOT collect £10M by selling him to Al Hillal or Inter Miami or some such in seven months time when we are relegated. Bonkers move paying someone to take your motor away when Webuyanycar will give you up to £10m for it in 7mths time… Thats costing well north of £20m - which is, incidentally what we did not appear to have to buy a real CF a few weeks ago…. And after all that cost and we still get relegated how about do it again - knock Top New Manager on the head ( at ludicrously high cost) but this time go with a really cheap option. OR Have fun with Top new Manager in the Championship but spend all season moaning because with Top New Manager we ought to be top of the league from match day one, leave out maybe we don’t have 75% of our better players anymore. At least we have Top New Manager and who knows, Top New way to win matches we can all enjoy. And Top New Manager is on easily highest wages in Championship even if we go down btw. That’s part of the deal. It’s really super messy fraught with extra costs we do not appear to have and with a slim chance of success ( defined as staying up) ~ about as slim as staying with RM and him turning it around but with much less drama. Anyways, thanks for reading. Hope you’ve now all changed your mind and all want to get behind RM team and squad and support them to victory. But I know that I am in a tiny minority here so no need to tell me how misguided I am etc. I think not only is it bad for saints ££ but I happen to believe RM can turn this baby around. 😂 That thought makes even me laugh!🤭 there really isn't need for this warning, everyone of your posts is. 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 On 29/05/2024 at 09:07, tdmickey3 said: Not posted in ages about those attention seekers and can only do 3 a day so wont waste my time on that garbage anymore. Thanks for the mention anyway😉 4 hours ago, tdmickey3 said: He has to get his attention somehow as the transfer window is a way off so he has to get his fix away from the COT bollocks, for now Great to see you're still absolutely honestly not obsessed with the COT "mickey" 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambtiss Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 2 hours ago, OldNick said: Just spoke to my Brighton fan mate and he said Potter played exciting football getting them top 8. Their main problem was having someone to put the ball in the net, I would be very happy with Graham Potter as a manager; I just think he will be aiming higher now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Can we not mention Graham Potter? It's embarrassing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 42 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Can we not mention Graham Potter? It's embarrassing. That David Moyes is a fucking good manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 56 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: That David Moyes is a fucking good manager. He will be in great demand in the near future as relegation candidates start firing managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 40 minutes ago, gurru991 said: He will be in great demand in the near future as relegation candidates start firing managers. Feel like we’ll be the last to that party 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Grim Reaper spotted in the Southampton area i hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 See Carsley thinks you can play the game without a centre-forward as well. With similar results. Coaches trying to reinvent the game. Clever fuckers aren’t they. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) 33 minutes ago, wild-saint said: Grim Reaper spotted in the Southampton area i hear. 👍 Edited October 10 by Farmer Saint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) 51 minutes ago, wild-saint said: Grim Reaper spotted in the Southampton area i hear. Does he play possession-based football? Edited October 10 by Wade Garrett 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Carsley will be available soon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 13 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: 👍 Is this another game of 3-2-1. I see rustling leaves. Is Russell leaving or have I won Dusty Bin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 42 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: See Carsley thinks you can play the game without a centre-forward as well. With similar results. Coaches trying to reinvent the game. Clever fuckers aren’t they. Playing without a recognised 9 isn’t anything new. Playing it with 20 minutes practice is just stupid. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 43 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Does he play possession-based football? He's more of a scythe straight through defences merchant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said: See Carsley thinks you can play the game without a centre-forward as well. With similar results. Coaches trying to reinvent the game. Clever fuckers aren’t they. I should qualify my comment by saying that I am 72 but I really don't understand why you would play without a striker when you don't need to. All this talk about overloading the mid-field is bull shit !! 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, gurru991 said: I should qualify my comment by saying that I am 72 but I really don't understand why you would play without a striker when you don't need to. All this talk about overloading the mid-field is bull shit !! You’re speaking my language. It’s as if players from yesteryear like Moore, Charlton, Greaves, Peters, Keegan, Robson and Gazza were nothing but long-ball merchants. Overload the midfield, low block, high block, recycle, transition - what a load of fucking shite. I’m 54 and preferred the game 25 years ago to the tactical bore fest it is now. Edited October 10 by Wade Garrett 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 After last night's England shambles, I'd imagine the odds on Potter getting the England job will have got a lot shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 9 hours ago, notnowcato said: Playing without a recognised 9 isn’t anything new. Playing it with 20 minutes practice is just stupid. I really could not believe he came out with that, thought I must have misheard him. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambtiss Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 10 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: See Carsley thinks you can play the game without a centre-forward as well. With similar results. Coaches trying to reinvent the game. Clever fuckers aren’t they. He obviously saw how well it worked for Saints against Bournemouth 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 Never mind the striker free formation. I was particularly impressed by England's tendency to play suicidal football out from the back aided by a keeper flapping around like some kind of demented fish. Very Saints-y. Like a home away from home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 59 minutes ago, coalman said: Never mind the striker free formation. I was particularly impressed by England's tendency to play suicidal football out from the back aided by a keeper flapping around like some kind of demented fish. Very Saints-y. Like a home away from home. I’ll be very disappointed if we go into the World Cup with Pickford as number 1. The Trent love in before the game was particularly nauseating, we then went on to see why he’s never played in a knockout match at a major tournament. Still no solution to the left back issue. Pile of arse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 There is a good article about RM and Saints posted on The Ugly Inside under the thread titled Inverted Full Backs and False Nines. It includes the statistic that, for goal kicks, we are the joint highest with Spurs of teams who play the ball within their own six yard box 84% of the time. It also states that our opening set of fixtures were the 4th easiest out of all teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 38 minutes ago, notnowcato said: I’ll be very disappointed if we go into the World Cup with Pickford as number 1. The Trent love in before the game was particularly nauseating, we then went on to see why he’s never played in a knockout match at a major tournament. Still no solution to the left back issue. Pile of arse. I don’t get the Trent love-in. He does knock a decent ball in time for time granted, but he gives it away a hell of a lot and can’t defend for toffee. Him and Bellingham were getting on my tits yesterday, trying loads of fancy flicks as if they were the Harlem Globetrotters. None of them came off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 13 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: I don’t get the Trent love-in. He does knock a decent ball in time for time granted, but he gives it away a hell of a lot and can’t defend for toffee. Him and Bellingham were getting on my tits yesterday, trying loads of fancy flicks as if they were the Harlem Globetrotters. None of them came off. He is over rated beyond belief and i dont really understand why. He was utter shite in midfield during the Euros. He's a decent but not great right back but frequently gets exposed defensively against decent teams. He's got quality on the ball but they are frothing at the gash about him every time he does anything with it. He is a rich mans Jack Stephens, some people seem to think he has to play somewhere but no one can tell you where that should be or what he actually brings to that role. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 On 09/10/2024 at 13:43, gio1saints said: Long post. Turn away now if this is too much. The summary version is : sacking RM is expensive and I don’t think it will happen. Longer version: Not been mentioned, yet, but there is a significant financial reason why I don’t think he will be sacked. I’m sensing a bunch of “ staying in the EPL is worth £ xyz millions so if we have to blow £xx millions now it’s worth it “ type of thinking going on. Except blowing £xx millions has not got any guarantee of us staying in the EPL at all and the greatest betting probability at the bookies is that with RM - OR WITHOUT- we will still be relegated. But in the case of ditching him We’d not only be relegated - but in all probability both fucked financially AND relegated. How’s that? For a start it’s not just Russell but probably 7 or 8 other colleagues of his who also would likely leave or be replaced by the incoming new managers team of coaches, analysts, physios etc Paying up 2.5 years to those is going to cost multi millions. Buying a GOOD new manager will cost maybe £5-£10m. You get what you pay for. Getting a cheap one is surely not an option? If you gonna sack our existing cheap option and your track record with cheap options has been terrible are you just going to go all Groundhog Day again by putting in Nathan Jones mk2? You’d hope not…maybe there is a GOOD unemployed Manager perfect for Saints out there - But of the two most likely that spring to mind neither Moyes nor Potter are interested. If they are any good, like Zlatan once famously said -( paraphrased) - SFC really? they are not going to drop to Saints level. Next: Vincent kompany got sold by Burnley to Munich for £10.2m ~after relegating them.😂. Not saying Russell is worth £10.2m to some other team but paying up those contracts AND foregoing his sale end of season is a double hit. And seems utterly bonkers. if the likelihood is you are going down either way why would you not keep the financial cushion of at least being able to flog the gaffer like Burnley did? So the itinerary goes something like this for you Russell out guys : (1) Buy top new Manager ( not some unemployed c&nt who is unemployed for good reason) : c. £10m. Does that include his team ? If so add extra. (2) Pay Top new Manager Top New Manager wages and Top New Manager contract to his mates : this is obvs higher than what RM and outgoing team are being paid. God knows how much more but it will be more. And we are desperate so our hand is weak. (3) Pay off RM and his team - I’m totally guessing it’s £6m -£8m. Could be more. Maybe a bit less. (4) Do NOT collect £10M by selling him to Al Hillal or Inter Miami or some such in seven months time when we are relegated. Bonkers move paying someone to take your motor away when Webuyanycar will give you up to £10m for it in 7mths time… Thats costing well north of £20m - which is, incidentally what we did not appear to have to buy a real CF a few weeks ago…. And after all that cost and we still get relegated how about do it again - knock Top New Manager on the head ( at ludicrously high cost) but this time go with a really cheap option. OR Have fun with Top new Manager in the Championship but spend all season moaning because with Top New Manager we ought to be top of the league from match day one, leave out maybe we don’t have 75% of our better players anymore. At least we have Top New Manager and who knows, Top New way to win matches we can all enjoy. And Top New Manager is on easily highest wages in Championship even if we go down btw. That’s part of the deal. It’s really super messy fraught with extra costs we do not appear to have and with a slim chance of success ( defined as staying up) ~ about as slim as staying with RM and him turning it around but with much less drama. Anyways, thanks for reading. Hope you’ve now all changed your mind and all want to get behind RM team and squad and support them to victory. But I know that I am in a tiny minority here so no need to tell me how misguided I am etc. I think not only is it bad for saints ££ but I happen to believe RM can turn this baby around. 😂 That thought makes even me laugh!🤭 Nice to know that Leo Tolstoy is still alive and posting on this message board. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 Shades of Martin last night with Carsley. Smartarse coaches are the graveyard of football. The astute manager has a basic concept how to play based on the players available and never picks a framework to try and accommodate players as Carsley did last night. The defence was hopeless, two full backs who didn't defend, Rice doing what Rice does and five midfielders with no idea how to adapt all playing their own game. Shades of years wasted trying to put Gerrard and Lampard in the same team when totally incompatible. Bellingham and Foden were a clusterfuck, Palmer was lost and wasted, Saka was the only one who held his position. Gordon looked like a fish out of water. The probability of Carsley getting the England job fell through the floor last night, or it should have done. God only knows what he was trying to do. We need a proper manager not a blown up coach that thinks the wheel needs reinventing so do England. Carsley had three centre forwards Kane (not fit), Watkins and Solanke. Pick the best balanced team and if that means leaving out any of Palmer, Bellingham and Foden so be it, Pick proper full backs not upside down wingers. Greece showed us the way with a basic balanced team who really showed us up playing basic football.. Martin has to do the same. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 On 11/10/2024 at 10:08, Turkish said: He is over rated beyond belief and i dont really understand why. He was utter shite in midfield during the Euros. He's a decent but not great right back but frequently gets exposed defensively against decent teams. He's got quality on the ball but they are frothing at the gash about him every time he does anything with it. He is a rich mans Jack Stephens, some people seem to think he has to play somewhere but no one can tell you where that should be or what he actually brings to that role. Name me another player who is as comfortable playing at quarterback? Go on, I dare you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 7 hours ago, coalman said: Name me another player who is as comfortable playing at quarterback? Go on, I dare you. Patrick Mahomes is a decent quarterback so probably quite comfortable there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 14 hours ago, Daft Kerplunk said: Patrick Mahomes is a decent quarterback so probably quite comfortable there. Touche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 (edited) I have been told Russ is on his way out. ( Second hand from a source within the dressing room ). Edited October 13 by badgerx16 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 6 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: I have been told Russ is on his way out. ( Second hand from a source within the dressing room ). Has Russel Martin's XI got the away dressing room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: I have been told Russ is on his way out. ( Second hand from a source within the dressing room ). Then why is he still here?............why waste an opportunity not to bed the new manager in whilst there's a 2 week period of nothingness? could loose again next match? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 5 minutes ago, Roo1976 said: Then why is he still here?............why waste an opportunity not to bed the new manager in whilst there's a 2 week period of nothingness? could loose again next match? How many decisions have the Board got right in the last 3 years ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: I have been told Russ is on his way out. ( Second hand from a source within the dressing room ). And how reliable is that sauce? Are we talking HP or asda just essentials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mr X said: And how reliable is that sauce? Are we talking HP or asda just essentials? We will have to wait and find out, but the original comment came out of the first team squad. Edited October 13 by badgerx16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: We will have to wait and find out, but the original comment came out of the first team squad. Yep, on his way I believe, is being given the Charity match but then is out...will find out more tomorrow. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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