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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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6 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

This is bullshit being that the team were putting out is basically the one that came up. The squad we have right now would be top 4 no bother.

RM conceded 63 goals against last season. The man can't set up a defence even the Championship with one of the most expensive squads. 

We're well shot of him and other managers are available to take us back up. "Togetherness" and "identity" just comes from winning. 

TBF, we have conceded more per game with Juric as Manager...but luckily as you said a number of times, it can't get any worse!!

And as I said, it can when SR are picking managers.

Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

TBF, we have conceded more per game with Juric as Manager...but luckily as you said a number of times, it can't get any worse!!

And as I said, it can when SR are picking managers.

Rasmus and Spores probably watched Leicester tonight, and instead of clearing out the stables, they are instead preparing them for RVN.

trousers

trousers

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12 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Quite right. 0-5 at half time to Tottenham was perfectly good. Admirable, even. Definitely gotten worse since that display. No doubt.

 

4 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

0-5 against the worst away team in the League...that's worse.

One result after the manager had been in post for 14 days and the other result after the manager had been in post for 905 days. Yep, definitely comparing like-with-like... ;)

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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1 minute ago, Gloucester Saint said:

They’re not the worst team away team since though!

No, results like that can help to pick up teams. It should have been 12, and we should have been in our Honeymoon period.

The fact is we haven't conceded less than 60 in a season since the 2017/2018 season.

Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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1 minute ago, trousers said:

 

One result after the manager had been in post for 14 days and the other result after the manager had been in post for 905 days. Yep, definitely comparing like-with-like... ;)

You'd imagine the second manager would do better though, wouldn't you? New Managers tend to do better initially, rather than ones getting towards the end of their tenure.

Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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Just now, Farmer Saint said:

You'd imagine the second manager would do better though, wouldn't you? New Managers tend to do better initially, rather than ones getting towards the end of their tenure.

Very unlikely he will be here in June, whatever Solak said on TalkSPORT frankly.

austsaint

austsaint

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4 minutes ago, trousers said:

 

One result after the manager had been in post for 14 days and the other result after the manager had been in post for 905 days. Yep, definitely comparing like-with-like... ;)

Fact checking seems to have gone out of fashion all over the place.   Let the Farmer have his day in the sun - he’s another still grieving the loss of Russ.

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trousers

trousers

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Just now, Farmer Saint said:

You'd imagine the second manager would do better though, wouldn't you? New Managers tend to do better initially, rather than ones getting towards the end of their tenure.

Depends what level of shite they inherit I guess...? (If it's a good enough excuse for Sir Kier Starmer... ;) ) 

Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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Just now, Gloucester Saint said:

🤦‍♂️ A dog with diarrhoea would be more solid. 

And this is what I've been saying for the god knows how long. Our defence is dog shite, has been for years. This is due to player recruitment and coaching. It has spanned 8 managers. 

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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Just now, trousers said:

Depends what level of shite they inherit I guess...? (If it's a good enough excuse for Sir Kier Starmer... ;) ) 

But then you can't blame RM for it either then...

Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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1 minute ago, austsaint said:

Fact checking seems to have gone out of fashion all over the place.   Let the Farmer have his day in the sun - he’s another still grieving the loss of Russ.

Check those facts then - prove me wrong.

My guess is you won't, as you can't.

trousers

trousers

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10 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

And this is what I've been saying for the god knows how long. Our defence is dog shite, has been for years. This is due to player recruitment and coaching. It has spanned 8 managers. 

Some might argue our defenders were some of the best in the Championship last season (on paper... I'm sure @Matthew Le God will correct me if I'm wrong :)) but the system being played contributed significantly to our poor goals-against tally, less so the relative quality of the players (for a change). But I totally agree that we haven't had a premier league standard defence for many seasons now. 

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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4 minutes ago, trousers said:

Some might argue our defenders were some of the best in the Championship last season (on paper... I'm sure @Matthew Le God will correct me if I'm wrong :)) but the system being played contributed significantly to our poor goals-against tally, less so the relative quality of the players (for a change). But I totally agree that we haven't had a premier league standard defence for many seasons now. 

I don't think many Saints fans would argue that Stephens and Bednarek are the best in any division - and I don't think KWP is any good defensively either.

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trousers

trousers

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2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I don't think many Saints fans would argue that Stephens and Bednarek are the best in any division - and I don't think KWP is any good defensively either.

I think some Saints fans would argue  certain points ad-infinitum... ;)

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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1 hour ago, trousers said:

I think some Saints fans would argue  certain points ad-infinitum... ;)

Really? If they do they don't understand football. Entitled to their opinions of course, but so are a lot of clueless people.

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SouSaint

SouSaint

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5 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

No, results like that can help to pick up teams. It should have been 12, and we should have been in our Honeymoon period.

The fact is we haven't conceded less than 60 in a season since the 2017/2018 season.

Janny fucking B. 

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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7 hours ago, Colinjb said:

So, Foxes fans vent fury, we vent............... er.............. What exactly? 

Maybe you could organise one of your boycotts that involves piling money into the club's tills?

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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3 hours ago, SouSaint said:

Janny fucking B. 

TBF, what 150 PL appearances for £6m? Can’t moan at the value, issue is the club hasn’t spent the £25-30m required in that position.

Probably only should’ve been a squad player but Wesley Hoedt at £17m/£35m in todays value yet appalling and wasn’t good enough for Watford last season, and Vestergaard who can’t run (amazingly we got our money back - cheers Brendan!). Then we went down the Lidl route with Lyanco, ABK and not replacing an ageing Yoshida or non-developing Stephens. 

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austsaint

austsaint

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27 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

TBF, what 150 PL appearances for £6m? Can’t moan at the value, issue is the club hasn’t spent the £25-30m required in that position.

Probably only should’ve been a squad player but Wesley Hoedt at £17m/£35m in todays value yet appalling and wasn’t good enough for Watford last season, and Vestergaard who can’t run (amazingly we got our money back - cheers Brendan!). Then we went down the Lidl route with Lyanco, ABK and not replacing an ageing Yoshida or non-developing Stephens. 

Yes, it’s been a decent spiral in CB quality if you take a line through the likes of Claus, Svensson, Fonte, Toby, VVD.   

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Dr Who?

Dr Who?

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18 hours ago, The Kraken said:

I think Dr Who is the one who made up some complete bunkum about new boy Johannes Spores. Tried to appear itk but got his facts completely muddled. So I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest he might, just maybe, be full of it.

Nope not me. I am not itk about anything Saints anymore and not for a good 15 years fella. 

Football Special

Football Special

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10 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Juric is making him look like a football genius at the moment.

I'd say both shit managers with stupid commitment to systems ignoring basic football organisation, difference is Martin had a rapport with players who I think bought into his philosophy, Juric is out on his own , no way these players are playing for him 

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aintforever

aintforever

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5 minutes ago, Football Special said:

I'd say both shit managers with stupid commitment to systems ignoring basic football organisation, difference is Martin had a rapport with players who I think bought into his philosophy, Juric is out on his own , no way these players are playing for him 

A good manager gets the players to play for him, that’s his job.

LGTL

LGTL

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5 minutes ago, Football Special said:

I'd say both shit managers with stupid commitment to systems ignoring basic football organisation, difference is Martin had a rapport with players who I think bought into his philosophy, Juric is out on his own , no way these players are playing for him 

I’d say this is pretty much where we are. The cool boss who let you do whatever you wanted with minimal consequences has just been let go. He let you have days off whenever you wanted and brought his ex glamour model mrs on the Christmas party. He’s now replaced with a complete authoritarian who happily tells you you’re fucking useless and get you in doing laps 7 days a week.

A true SR masterclass. 

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